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04-24-2006, 02:14 AM
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This is from http://www.sacredcow.com/articles/apt_hicks_ufo.html... not a bad read about Hicks regardless of it's relevance to Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned, although it is kinda funny how it says "You could probably remember where you put those keys or that cute guy's phone number with a quick dose of psilocybin."

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Me and two friends, we had this shared vision of being visited by a ship. And these seven balls of light, which inside you could see these little skeleton figures inside, moving in these lights, and they led us onto their ship. And we were asking them, all telepathically, "Why are you doing this?" And they said, "Because you wanted to know." And we said, "Why us?" And they said, "Because you'll see it for what we are." And we said, "How do you do what you do?" And they said, "We'll show you." And they opened up their ship, and we all saw this bright light.

This was a vision, we were not together when this happened. We got together later, and we'd forgotten about it. And my friend said, "Do you get the impression we're meeting lots of new friends tonight?" And all three of us, that memory dawned. Kind of a neat experience.


When Hicks talked about the "Seven balls of light took me onto their ship" on the Relentless CD, he was most certainly referring to this.

The old joke used to be that UFO witnesses were drinking at the time of their sightings. While this seemingly ignores the fact that no one hallucinates balls of light flying around at high speeds while under the influence of alcohol, the updated version of this old wives' tale would seem to make more sense. Why do you think they call them "hallucinogens?" Anyone familiar with psychedelics and their study knows that thousands of indigenous world cultures have used and respected psychoactive plants for divination and sometimes just everyday problem-solving. You could probably remember where you put those keys or that cute guy's phone number with a quick dose of psilocybin. The idea is that psychedelics open the mind to a wider experience of reality and quite literally open doors to other ones.
The point is that Hicks and thousands of others were and are seeing UFOs and aliens (or at least something that looked like them) by using the mushroom-shaped key. Cultural imperialism shouldn't blind one to something that's just as "real" as reading these words or listening to Bill Hicks' work.
Legendary ethnopharmacologist researcher R. Gordon Wasson and others like Jonathan Ott coined a word in 1978 which they thought described the experience more accurately and did away with the cultural baggage of the older terms. The new word they came up with was "entheogen," which means literally "becoming divine within": En = Within, Inner/ Theo = Divine, God/ Gen = Becoming, Creating. This was what Hicks and his comic compatriots said that were trying to achieve when they stumbled into the UFO experience. They weren't looking for it, but as Kevin Booth said, "It's a different story every time."
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Anyway, as for my opinion on this being fake/awful/not Tool-ish.... it's very real, very good and very much like Tool. It's dark humor. Sure, the band has mostly restricted this type of stuff to segues but it's still very Tool.
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Recalls Bill Hicks perhaps...

This is from http://www.sacredcow.com/articles/apt_hicks_ufo.html... not a bad read about Hicks regardless of it's relevance to Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned, although it is kinda funny how it says "You could probably remember where you put those keys or that cute guy's phone number with a quick dose of psilocybin."

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Me and two friends, we had this shared vision of being visited by a ship. And these seven balls of light, which inside you could see these little skeleton figures inside, moving in these lights, and they led us onto their ship. And we were asking them, all telepathically, "Why are you doing this?" And they said, "Because you wanted to know." And we said, "Why us?" And they said, "Because you'll see it for what we are." And we said, "How do you do what you do?" And they said, "We'll show you." And they opened up their ship, and we all saw this bright light.

This was a vision, we were not together when this happened. We got together later, and we'd forgotten about it. And my friend said, "Do you get the impression we're meeting lots of new friends tonight?" And all three of us, that memory dawned. Kind of a neat experience.


When Hicks talked about the "Seven balls of light took me onto their ship" on the Relentless CD, he was most certainly referring to this.

The old joke used to be that UFO witnesses were drinking at the time of their sightings. While this seemingly ignores the fact that no one hallucinates balls of light flying around at high speeds while under the influence of alcohol, the updated version of this old wives' tale would seem to make more sense. Why do you think they call them "hallucinogens?" Anyone familiar with psychedelics and their study knows that thousands of indigenous world cultures have used and respected psychoactive plants for divination and sometimes just everyday problem-solving. You could probably remember where you put those keys or that cute guy's phone number with a quick dose of psilocybin. The idea is that psychedelics open the mind to a wider experience of reality and quite literally open doors to other ones.
The point is that Hicks and thousands of others were and are seeing UFOs and aliens (or at least something that looked like them) by using the mushroom-shaped key. Cultural imperialism shouldn't blind one to something that's just as "real" as reading these words or listening to Bill Hicks' work.
Legendary ethnopharmacologist researcher R. Gordon Wasson and others like Jonathan Ott coined a word in 1978 which they thought described the experience more accurately and did away with the cultural baggage of the older terms. The new word they came up with was "entheogen," which means literally "becoming divine within": En = Within, Inner/ Theo = Divine, God/ Gen = Becoming, Creating. This was what Hicks and his comic compatriots said that were trying to achieve when they stumbled into the UFO experience. They weren't looking for it, but as Kevin Booth said, "It's a different story every time."
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Anyway, as for my opinion on this being fake/awful/not Tool-ish.... it's very real, very good and very much like Tool. It's dark humor. Sure, the band has mostly restricted this type of stuff to segues but it's still very Tool.
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