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THE ZEN EYE


We have two eyes to see two sides of things
But there must be a third eye
Which will see everything at the same time
And yet not see anything.
That is to understand Zen.
-- D. T. Suzuki (1870 – 1966)

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It is as though you have an eye
That sees all forms
But does not see itself.
This is how your mind is.
Its light penetrates everywhere
And engulfs everything,
So why does it not know itself?
-- Foyan (1067 – 1120)

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Look directly!
What is this?
Look in this manner
And you won’t be fooled!
-- Bassui Tokusho (1327 – 1387)

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In the awakened eye
Mountains and rivers
Completely disappear.
The eye of delusion
Looks out upon
Deep fog and clouds
Alone on my zazen mat
I forget the days
As they pass
The wisteria has grow
Thick over the eaves
Of my hut.
-- Muso Soseki (1275 – 1351)

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If your ears see,
And eyes hear,
Not a doubt you’ll cherish
How naturally the rain drips
From the eaves!
-- Daito Kokushi (1282 – 1337)

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If the eye never sleeps,
All dreams will naturally cease.
If the mind makes no discriminations,
The ten thousand things
Are as they are, of single essence.
To understand the mystery of the One-essence
Is to be released from all entanglements.
When all things are seen equally
The timeless Self-essence is reached.
No comparisons or analogies are possible
In this causeless, relationless state.
-- T’sen T’sang (d.606)

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People who study Buddhism
Should seek real, true perception
And understanding for now.
If you attain real, true perception
And understanding,
Birth and death don’t affect you;
You are free to go or stay.
You needn’t seek wonders,
For wonders come of themselves.
-- Linji (d.867)

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Do we not cherish the
Infinite brightness
Of the one bright pearl?
Who can surpass
The virtue of this
Brilliant, radiant pearl
That covers the universe?
The essence of causality
Never ceases and
The pearl is always bright.
It is our original face and enlightened eye.
-- Dogen Kigen (1200 – 1253)

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Realization makes
Every place a temple,
The absolute endows
All beings with the true eye.
When you come to grasp it,
You find it was ever
Before your eyes.
If you can see clear
What is before your very eyes,
It is what fills the ten directions;
When you see what fills
The ten directions,
You find it is only what is before your eyes.
-- Daikaku Rankei Doryu (1213 – 1279)

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The past is already past.
Don’t try to regain it.
The present does not stay.
Don’t try to touch it.
From moment to moment.
The future has not come;
Don’t think about it
Beforehand.
Whatever comes to the eye,
Leave it be.
There are no commandments
To be kept;
There’s no filth to be cleansed.
With empty mind really
Penetrated, the dharmas
Have no life.
When you can be like this,
You’ve completed
The ultimate attainment.
-- Layman P’ang (740-808)

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Re: The Eye

THE ZEN EYE


We have two eyes to see two sides of things
But there must be a third eye
Which will see everything at the same time
And yet not see anything.
That is to understand Zen.
-- D. T. Suzuki (1870 – 1966)

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It is as though you have an eye
That sees all forms
But does not see itself.
This is how your mind is.
Its light penetrates everywhere
And engulfs everything,
So why does it not know itself?
-- Foyan (1067 – 1120)

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Look directly!
What is this?
Look in this manner
And you won’t be fooled!
-- Bassui Tokusho (1327 – 1387)

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In the awakened eye
Mountains and rivers
Completely disappear.
The eye of delusion
Looks out upon
Deep fog and clouds
Alone on my zazen mat
I forget the days
As they pass
The wisteria has grow
Thick over the eaves
Of my hut.
-- Muso Soseki (1275 – 1351)

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If your ears see,
And eyes hear,
Not a doubt you’ll cherish
How naturally the rain drips
From the eaves!
-- Daito Kokushi (1282 – 1337)

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If the eye never sleeps,
All dreams will naturally cease.
If the mind makes no discriminations,
The ten thousand things
Are as they are, of single essence.
To understand the mystery of the One-essence
Is to be released from all entanglements.
When all things are seen equally
The timeless Self-essence is reached.
No comparisons or analogies are possible
In this causeless, relationless state.
-- T’sen T’sang (d.606)

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People who study Buddhism
Should seek real, true perception
And understanding for now.
If you attain real, true perception
And understanding,
Birth and death don’t affect you;
You are free to go or stay.
You needn’t seek wonders,
For wonders come of themselves.
-- Linji (d.867)

+

Do we not cherish the
Infinite brightness
Of the one bright pearl?
Who can surpass
The virtue of this
Brilliant, radiant pearl
That covers the universe?
The essence of causality
Never ceases and
The pearl is always bright.
It is our original face and enlightened eye.
-- Dogen Kigen (1200 – 1253)

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Realization makes
Every place a temple,
The absolute endows
All beings with the true eye.
When you come to grasp it,
You find it was ever
Before your eyes.
If you can see clear
What is before your very eyes,
It is what fills the ten directions;
When you see what fills
The ten directions,
You find it is only what is before your eyes.
-- Daikaku Rankei Doryu (1213 – 1279)

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The past is already past.
Don’t try to regain it.
The present does not stay.
Don’t try to touch it.
From moment to moment.
The future has not come;
Don’t think about it
Beforehand.
Whatever comes to the eye,
Leave it be.
There are no commandments
To be kept;
There’s no filth to be cleansed.
With empty mind really
Penetrated, the dharmas
Have no life.
When you can be like this,
You’ve completed
The ultimate attainment.
-- Layman P’ang (740-808)

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To tell you the truth Inner, I'm kind of sick and tired of reading all these quotes about eyes. The first few posts were okay until you started to drag on and on about them. I know it relates to the mythology and psychology of Tools' lyrics, but it's kind of redundant. Just my thoughts on the last few posts with quotes on the eyes...

Meanwhile, I enjoy your posts most of the time. You have good thoughts and opinions, unlike most of mine. I know a lot of people hate me on this board, but I try to stay subjective during the times I do post topics and my own opinions.

Finally, it is interesting that "The Eye" is so prominent in Tools' music. I'm not sure what to take in from it right now. I'll have to think about it for a while and get back to the post.

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Re: The Eye

To tell you the truth Inner, I'm kind of sick and tired of reading all these quotes about eyes. The first few posts were okay until you started to drag on and on about them. I know it relates to the mythology and psychology of Tools' lyrics, but it's kind of redundant. Just my thoughts on the last few posts with quotes on the eyes...

Meanwhile, I enjoy your posts most of the time. You have good thoughts and opinions, unlike most of mine. I know a lot of people hate me on this board, but I try to stay subjective during the times I do post topics and my own opinions.

Finally, it is interesting that "The Eye" is so prominent in Tools' music. I'm not sure what to take in from it right now. I'll have to think about it for a while and get back to the post.

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I'm kind of sick and tired of reading all these quotes about eyes.
Then close your eyes and go back to sleep.
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how is it that every thread started about a certain subject ends up in being a battleground? fuck man. Why don't we get back to talking about what this thread is actually about? The fucking subject of the eye being in a lot of tool songs.
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how is it that every thread started about a certain subject ends up in being a battleground? fuck man. Why don't we get back to talking about what this thread is actually about? The fucking subject of the eye being in a lot of tool songs.
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Be careful that your posts don't partake in those very battles....
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Be careful that your posts don't partake in those very battles....
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Be careful that your posts don't partake in those very battles....
hey man, i never attacked anyone personally in that post...just in general
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Be careful that your posts don't partake in those very battles....
hey man, i never attacked anyone personally in that post...just in general
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I was just saying.

That's why all the threads seem to turn into a battleground.

A couple of people go back and forth and then those that despise it eventually let them know about it, which only fuels the fire. Before long, its out of hand.

I'm guilty of falling into that trap, but then again, I think everything is relevant regardless of wether or not it's on topic or just plain stoopid.
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I was just saying.

That's why all the threads seem to turn into a battleground.

A couple of people go back and forth and then those that despise it eventually let them know about it, which only fuels the fire. Before long, its out of hand.

I'm guilty of falling into that trap, but then again, I think everything is relevant regardless of wether or not it's on topic or just plain stoopid.
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I was just saying.

That's why all the threads seem to turn into a battleground.

A couple of people go back and forth and then those that despise it eventually let them know about it, which only fuels the fire. Before long, its out of hand.

I'm guilty of falling into that trap, but then again, I think everything is relevant regardless of wether or not it's on topic or just plain stoopid.
well maybe there should be a rip thread. where everyone can go to it to argue about stupid shit. that way we can keep useless arguments out of threads. but hey, im all about healthy debates, but when it resorts to peoples mothers and sisters and whatever else, that just pisses me off, and im sure im nto the only one
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I was just saying.

That's why all the threads seem to turn into a battleground.

A couple of people go back and forth and then those that despise it eventually let them know about it, which only fuels the fire. Before long, its out of hand.

I'm guilty of falling into that trap, but then again, I think everything is relevant regardless of wether or not it's on topic or just plain stoopid.
well maybe there should be a rip thread. where everyone can go to it to argue about stupid shit. that way we can keep useless arguments out of threads. but hey, im all about healthy debates, but when it resorts to peoples mothers and sisters and whatever else, that just pisses me off, and im sure im nto the only one
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No, you're not the only one...
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hey man, i never attacked anyone personally in that post...just in general
You've been attacking me non stop hypocrite
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You've been attacking me non stop hypocrite
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You've been attacking me non stop hypocrite
IN THAT POST. sure i attacked you but that's only because you are a butt pirate xD
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IN THAT POST. sure i attacked you but that's only because you are a butt pirate xD
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IN THAT POST. sure i attacked you but that's only because you are a butt pirate xD
Well that must make you the brown nugget booty I've been searching for
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IN THAT POST. sure i attacked you but that's only because you are a butt pirate xD
Well that must make you the brown nugget booty I've been searching for
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Well that must make you the brown nugget booty I've been searching for
sorry bud but I can't say I swing that way, maybe in my next life ill be a part of the queer eye for a straight guy crew and you can try then : D
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Well that must make you the brown nugget booty I've been searching for
sorry bud but I can't say I swing that way, maybe in my next life ill be a part of the queer eye for a straight guy crew and you can try then : D
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lmao u added hairy xD
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Does that mean that Inner is hairy and also a butt pirate, or that he pirates hairy butts?
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I mean come on. Eye on the TV and I own the TV sound exactly the same, just like a lot of songs with double meanings. Like stairway to heaven says, "cause you know sometimes words have two meanings." It's probably a play on words, a double meaning. I own the tv because tragedy thrills me, and my eye is on the tv for the same reason.

Of course Tool is obsessed with eyes, for thousands of years the eye has represented consciousness. DUH. It's not THAT complicated, in buddhism the eye on the hand represents compassion. Of course what tool has to say about eyes probably reflects a statement about your third eye, but not EVERY time. There are different levels of consciousness, and your third eye is just a part of that. They start out with lower consciousness in the video. mr. x is conscious of himself, then the little worms who are attracted to tragedy inside himself, then the child reborn inside himself through his third eye, and finally the entire world as one consciousness. You can slap an eyeball on anything to represent what kind of concsiousness you're trying to get across.
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I mean come on. Eye on the TV and I own the TV sound exactly the same, just like a lot of songs with double meanings. Like stairway to heaven says, "cause you know sometimes words have two meanings." It's probably a play on words, a double meaning. I own the tv because tragedy thrills me, and my eye is on the tv for the same reason.

Of course Tool is obsessed with eyes, for thousands of years the eye has represented consciousness. DUH. It's not THAT complicated, in buddhism the eye on the hand represents compassion. Of course what tool has to say about eyes probably reflects a statement about your third eye, but not EVERY time. There are different levels of consciousness, and your third eye is just a part of that. They start out with lower consciousness in the video. mr. x is conscious of himself, then the little worms who are attracted to tragedy inside himself, then the child reborn inside himself through his third eye, and finally the entire world as one consciousness. You can slap an eyeball on anything to represent what kind of concsiousness you're trying to get across.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.

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You can slap an eyeball on anything to represent what kind of concsiousness you're trying to get across.
But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.

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You can slap an eyeball on anything to represent what kind of concsiousness you're trying to get across.
But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.



But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
I think the eye thing is still subtle even though it's everywhere. Because it's not saying anything in specific other than, be more conscious. Depending on what the eye is on and when it comes into play regarding the rest of, say the vicarious video for example, it has slightly different meanings. I mean to me, Tool are truth seekers, they seek truth with they're music, using mathematics and universal laws for lyrics. They seek truth in their visual art, the only true thing about anything visual is that eyes are used to see it. Everything to them must contain a dab of truth to it.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.



But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
I think the eye thing is still subtle even though it's everywhere. Because it's not saying anything in specific other than, be more conscious. Depending on what the eye is on and when it comes into play regarding the rest of, say the vicarious video for example, it has slightly different meanings. I mean to me, Tool are truth seekers, they seek truth with they're music, using mathematics and universal laws for lyrics. They seek truth in their visual art, the only true thing about anything visual is that eyes are used to see it. Everything to them must contain a dab of truth to it.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.



But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
I don't think Tool really gives a damn about being original... and it also happens to be the most appropriate metaphor for consciousness (and not coincidently the shape of the vesica pisces)... Think of how lame it would be for their videos and artwork to be covered with noses and ears.

They are fascinated with consciousness. They are fascinated with depicting and visualizing higher and lower consciousness... they also enjoy tapping into the subconscious to convey an artistic idea. I do agree that they overuse it a bit... maybe because they feel like the point has not really sunk in with the majority of their fans.
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Tool is starting to make me feel like they're using the eye too much. Sure, it's an essential piece in what they do, however, they staple it on everything. For such a religious and symbolic icon, they plaster it all over their artwork as though "it's just artwork," rather than using it more subtly. I think they're kind of killing it by overuse. Even though Alex Grey is responsible for the flaming eyes the net being, it's Tool's creation circa Aenima. In Lateralus and Aenima, the use of the eyes was subtle: it blended in and conveyed the point they were trying to accomplish.

However, in 10,000 days, it's become more of a nuisance. Look at the Vicarious video - the use of the eyes is too cliche. Upon trying to tell this message of vast importance, they reuse the "eye" so much that in the end, I feel instead of being a symbol of importance, it's just become a band logo.



But this is the downfall though. Once you start using it for everything all the time, it's meaning gets lost in translation. If the video maybe showed the eye once or twice at critical moments, the video would have been better, and the "eye" would have been exemplified as higher importance.
I don't think Tool really gives a damn about being original... and it also happens to be the most appropriate metaphor for consciousness (and not coincidently the shape of the vesica pisces)... Think of how lame it would be for their videos and artwork to be covered with noses and ears.

They are fascinated with consciousness. They are fascinated with depicting and visualizing higher and lower consciousness... they also enjoy tapping into the subconscious to convey an artistic idea. I do agree that they overuse it a bit... maybe because they feel like the point has not really sunk in with the majority of their fans.
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I don't think Tool really gives a damn about being original... and it also happens to be the most appropriate metaphor for consciousness (and not coincidently the shape of the vesica pisces)... Think of how lame it would be for their videos and artwork to be covered with noses and ears.

They are fascinated with consciousness. They are fascinated with depicting and visualizing higher and lower consciousness... they also enjoy tapping into the subconscious to convey an artistic idea. I do agree that they overuse it a bit... maybe because they feel like the point has not really sunk in with the majority of their fans.
I don't know. I look at Stinkfist, Schism, and Parabola, and then I look at Vicarious. I sometimes wonder what happened along the way. It's like they built the video around the eye, instead of the eye around the video. It's a powerful symbol, and a lot of fans on here are going to tell me otherwise, but for what they were trying to convey, the video was too cliche.

Also, Vicarious was too heavily influenced by Alex Grey in my opinion. I realize that Tool invited him in, but the video is more about Alex Grey than it is Tool. Just my opinion.
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I don't think Tool really gives a damn about being original... and it also happens to be the most appropriate metaphor for consciousness (and not coincidently the shape of the vesica pisces)... Think of how lame it would be for their videos and artwork to be covered with noses and ears.

They are fascinated with consciousness. They are fascinated with depicting and visualizing higher and lower consciousness... they also enjoy tapping into the subconscious to convey an artistic idea. I do agree that they overuse it a bit... maybe because they feel like the point has not really sunk in with the majority of their fans.
I don't know. I look at Stinkfist, Schism, and Parabola, and then I look at Vicarious. I sometimes wonder what happened along the way. It's like they built the video around the eye, instead of the eye around the video. It's a powerful symbol, and a lot of fans on here are going to tell me otherwise, but for what they were trying to convey, the video was too cliche.

Also, Vicarious was too heavily influenced by Alex Grey in my opinion. I realize that Tool invited him in, but the video is more about Alex Grey than it is Tool. Just my opinion.
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I don't know. I look at Stinkfist, Schism, and Parabola, and then I look at Vicarious. I sometimes wonder what happened along the way. It's like they built the video around the eye, instead of the eye around the video. It's a powerful symbol, and a lot of fans on here are going to tell me otherwise, but for what they were trying to convey, the video was too cliche.

Also, Vicarious was too heavily influenced by Alex Grey in my opinion. I realize that Tool invited him in, but the video is more about Alex Grey than it is Tool. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I can see that, but it was also the decision of the band to make it like that. I really like it though. Parabola was like a tease to me... I was hoping to see more Alex Grey influenced videos. Needless to say I was quite satisfied with Vicarious.

Still, in considering Tools motif of expanding consciousness, I see the eye as appropriate... even though it is a little overused. The first time I watched it, I was thinking "What the fuck is up with all these goddamn eyes?"
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I don't know. I look at Stinkfist, Schism, and Parabola, and then I look at Vicarious. I sometimes wonder what happened along the way. It's like they built the video around the eye, instead of the eye around the video. It's a powerful symbol, and a lot of fans on here are going to tell me otherwise, but for what they were trying to convey, the video was too cliche.

Also, Vicarious was too heavily influenced by Alex Grey in my opinion. I realize that Tool invited him in, but the video is more about Alex Grey than it is Tool. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I can see that, but it was also the decision of the band to make it like that. I really like it though. Parabola was like a tease to me... I was hoping to see more Alex Grey influenced videos. Needless to say I was quite satisfied with Vicarious.

Still, in considering Tools motif of expanding consciousness, I see the eye as appropriate... even though it is a little overused. The first time I watched it, I was thinking "What the fuck is up with all these goddamn eyes?"
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Yeah, I can see that, but it was also the decision of the band to make it like that. I really like it though. Parabola was like a tease to me... I was hoping to see more Alex Grey influenced videos. Needless to say I was quite satisfied with Vicarious.

Still, in considering Tools motif of expanding consciousness, I see the eye as appropriate... even though it is a little overused. The first time I watched it, I was thinking "What the fuck is up with all these goddamn eyes?"
i heard even in the bible, which i haven't read so i can't vouch for,but somewhere in there angels are referred to as being completely covered with eyes.
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Yeah, I can see that, but it was also the decision of the band to make it like that. I really like it though. Parabola was like a tease to me... I was hoping to see more Alex Grey influenced videos. Needless to say I was quite satisfied with Vicarious.

Still, in considering Tools motif of expanding consciousness, I see the eye as appropriate... even though it is a little overused. The first time I watched it, I was thinking "What the fuck is up with all these goddamn eyes?"
i heard even in the bible, which i haven't read so i can't vouch for,but somewhere in there angels are referred to as being completely covered with eyes.
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i heard even in the bible, which i haven't read so i can't vouch for,but somewhere in there angels are referred to as being completely covered with eyes.
I'm reading a book called The Children of the Law of One : The lost teachings of Atlantis, (I'll include a link)... It talks about all religion in its purest form focusing on the same idea of unity. Through selfless and unconditional love and compassion, recognizing that we are all one, and removing the ego, you gain enlightenment. You basically let your inner being control you... and evidently you gain a certain degree of omnipotence. Of course, religion nowadays enforces a feeling of separation and superiority, totally contradicting its initial teachings (Pure as we begin??).

So it doesn't really surprise me that an angel would be associated with awareness in the bible.

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i heard even in the bible, which i haven't read so i can't vouch for,but somewhere in there angels are referred to as being completely covered with eyes.
I'm reading a book called The Children of the Law of One : The lost teachings of Atlantis, (I'll include a link)... It talks about all religion in its purest form focusing on the same idea of unity. Through selfless and unconditional love and compassion, recognizing that we are all one, and removing the ego, you gain enlightenment. You basically let your inner being control you... and evidently you gain a certain degree of omnipotence. Of course, religion nowadays enforces a feeling of separation and superiority, totally contradicting its initial teachings (Pure as we begin??).

So it doesn't really surprise me that an angel would be associated with awareness in the bible.

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A great thought begins by seeing something differently, with a shift of the mind's eye.
-- Albert Einstein

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The eye of the master will do more work than both his hands.
--Benjamin Franklin

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To develop a complete mind, study the science of art, study the art of science. Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
-- Leonardo Da Vinci

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To the eye is sometimes given a glimpse of vast beauties,
a taste of perfection.
But only enough
to leave the heart impossibly lonely.
-- Rumi

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Nothing can be more important
In my life
Than to lose myself
In God’s Compassion-Eye.

In Heaven I used to get endless Delight
From God for the asking
On earth I get endless Compassion
From God for the asking.

God’s Compassion-Eye gives us
Not only one Chance
But countless chances
To change our wrong directions
--Sri Chinmoy

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Sonnet 47: Betwixt mine eye and heart a league is took

Betwixt mine eye and heart a league is took,
And each doth good turns now unto the other:
When that mine eye is famish'd for a look,
Or heart in love with sighs himself doth smother,
With my love's picture then my eye doth feast,
And to the painted banquet bids my heart;
Another time mine eye is my heart's guest,
And in his thoughts of love doth share a part:
So, either by thy picture or my love,
Thy self away, art present still with me;
For thou not farther than my thoughts canst move,
And I am still with them, and they with thee;
Or, if they sleep, thy picture in my sight
Awakes my heart, to heart's and eyes' delight.
-- William Shakespeare

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By intuition, Mightiest Things
Assert themselves – and not by terms –
“I’m Midnight” – need the Midnight say –
“I’m Sunrise” – Need the Majesty?
Omnipotence – had not a Tongue –
His lisp – is Lightning – and the Sun –
His Conversation– with the Sea –
“How shall you know”?
Consult your Eye!
-- Emily Dickinson

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A great thought begins by seeing something differently, with a shift of the mind's eye.
-- Albert Einstein

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The eye of the master will do more work than both his hands.
--Benjamin Franklin

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To develop a complete mind, study the science of art, study the art of science. Learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
-- Leonardo Da Vinci

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To the eye is sometimes given a glimpse of vast beauties,
a taste of perfection.
But only enough
to leave the heart impossibly lonely.
-- Rumi

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Nothing can be more important
In my life
Than to lose myself
In God’s Compassion-Eye.

In Heaven I used to get endless Delight
From God for the asking
On earth I get endless Compassion
From God for the asking.

God’s Compassion-Eye gives us
Not only one Chance
But countless chances
To change our wrong directions
--Sri Chinmoy

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Sonnet 47: Betwixt mine eye and heart a league is took

Betwixt mine eye and heart a league is took,
And each doth good turns now unto the other:
When that mine eye is famish'd for a look,
Or heart in love with sighs himself doth smother,
With my love's picture then my eye doth feast,
And to the painted banquet bids my heart;
Another time mine eye is my heart's guest,
And in his thoughts of love doth share a part:
So, either by thy picture or my love,
Thy self away, art present still with me;
For thou not farther than my thoughts canst move,
And I am still with them, and they with thee;
Or, if they sleep, thy picture in my sight
Awakes my heart, to heart's and eyes' delight.
-- William Shakespeare

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By intuition, Mightiest Things
Assert themselves – and not by terms –
“I’m Midnight” – need the Midnight say –
“I’m Sunrise” – Need the Majesty?
Omnipotence – had not a Tongue –
His lisp – is Lightning – and the Sun –
His Conversation– with the Sea –
“How shall you know”?
Consult your Eye!
-- Emily Dickinson

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More eye poems and quotes…


A collection from Hafiz of Shiraz:


WITH THAT MOON LANGUAGE

Admit something:

Everyone you see
You say to them, "Love me."

Of course you do not do this out loud;
Otherwise,
Someone would call the cops.

Still though, think about this,
This great pull in us
To connect.

Why not become the one
Who lives with a full moon in each eye
That is always saying,

With that sweet moon
Language,

What every other eye in this world
Is dying to
Hear.


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WHATEVER YOU REALLY SEE

A human being is essentially
A spirit eye.

Whatever you really see
You are that.


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NEEDING A MIRROR

Your
Eye
Is so wise

It keeps turning, turning
Needing to touch
Beauty.

It keeps turning
Needing to find a mirror

That
Will caress you

As I.


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BEHND EACH EYE

Behind each eye
Spring overall.
But inside us
There is another unity.
Behind each eye
One glowing weather.


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THAT SHAPES THE EYE

Children
Can easily open the
Drawer
That lets the spirit rise up and wear
Its favorite costume of
Mirth and laughter.

When the mind is consumed with
Remembrance of
Him
Something divine happens to the
Heart
That
Shapes the hand and tongue
And eye into
The word
Love.


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A ROOT IN EACH ACT AND CREATURE

The sun's eyes are painting fields again.

Its lashes with expert strokes
Are sweeping across the land.

A great palette of light has embraced
This earth.

Hafiz, if just a little clay and water
Mixed in His bowl
Can yield such exquisite scents, sights,
Music - whirling forms -

What unspeakable wonders must await with
The commencement of unfolding
Of the infinite number of petals
That are the
Soul.

What excitement will renew your body
When we all begin to see
That His heart resides in
Everything?

God has a root in each act and creature
That He draws His mysterious
Divine life from.

His eyes are painting fields again.

The Beloved with His own hands is tending
Raising like a precious child,
Himself in
You.


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Quotes from Emerson:


People forget that it is the eye which makes the horizon, and the rounding mind's eye which makes this or that man a type or representative of humanity with the name of hero or saint.


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Some eyes threaten like a loaded and leveled pistol, and others are as insulting as hissing or kicking; or, in its altered mood, by beams of kindness, it can make the heart dance with joy; some have no more expression than blueberries, while others are as deep as a well which you can fall into.


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To the attentive eye, each moment of the year has its own beauty, and in the same field, it beholds, every hour, a picture which was never seen before, and which shall never be seen again.


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When a man speaks the truth in the spirit of truth, his eye is as clear as the heavens. When he has base ends, and speaks falsely, the eye is muddy, and sometimes asquint.


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Eyes are bold as lions--roving, running, leaping, here and there, far and near. They speak all languages. They wait for no introduction; they are no Englishmen; ask no leave of age or rank; they respect neither property nor riches, neither learning nor power, nor virtue, nor sex, but intrude, and come again, and go through and through you in a moment of time. What inundation of life and thought is discharged from one soul into another through them!

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More eye poems and quotes…


A collection from Hafiz of Shiraz:


WITH THAT MOON LANGUAGE

Admit something:

Everyone you see
You say to them, "Love me."

Of course you do not do this out loud;
Otherwise,
Someone would call the cops.

Still though, think about this,
This great pull in us
To connect.

Why not become the one
Who lives with a full moon in each eye
That is always saying,

With that sweet moon
Language,

What every other eye in this world
Is dying to
Hear.


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WHATEVER YOU REALLY SEE

A human being is essentially
A spirit eye.

Whatever you really see
You are that.


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NEEDING A MIRROR

Your
Eye
Is so wise

It keeps turning, turning
Needing to touch
Beauty.

It keeps turning
Needing to find a mirror

That
Will caress you

As I.


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BEHND EACH EYE

Behind each eye
Spring overall.
But inside us
There is another unity.
Behind each eye
One glowing weather.


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THAT SHAPES THE EYE

Children
Can easily open the
Drawer
That lets the spirit rise up and wear
Its favorite costume of
Mirth and laughter.

When the mind is consumed with
Remembrance of
Him
Something divine happens to the
Heart
That
Shapes the hand and tongue
And eye into
The word
Love.


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A ROOT IN EACH ACT AND CREATURE

The sun's eyes are painting fields again.

Its lashes with expert strokes
Are sweeping across the land.

A great palette of light has embraced
This earth.

Hafiz, if just a little clay and water
Mixed in His bowl
Can yield such exquisite scents, sights,
Music - whirling forms -

What unspeakable wonders must await with
The commencement of unfolding
Of the infinite number of petals
That are the
Soul.

What excitement will renew your body
When we all begin to see
That His heart resides in
Everything?

God has a root in each act and creature
That He draws His mysterious
Divine life from.

His eyes are painting fields again.

The Beloved with His own hands is tending
Raising like a precious child,
Himself in
You.


+


Quotes from Emerson:


People forget that it is the eye which makes the horizon, and the rounding mind's eye which makes this or that man a type or representative of humanity with the name of hero or saint.


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Some eyes threaten like a loaded and leveled pistol, and others are as insulting as hissing or kicking; or, in its altered mood, by beams of kindness, it can make the heart dance with joy; some have no more expression than blueberries, while others are as deep as a well which you can fall into.


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To the attentive eye, each moment of the year has its own beauty, and in the same field, it beholds, every hour, a picture which was never seen before, and which shall never be seen again.


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When a man speaks the truth in the spirit of truth, his eye is as clear as the heavens. When he has base ends, and speaks falsely, the eye is muddy, and sometimes asquint.


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Eyes are bold as lions--roving, running, leaping, here and there, far and near. They speak all languages. They wait for no introduction; they are no Englishmen; ask no leave of age or rank; they respect neither property nor riches, neither learning nor power, nor virtue, nor sex, but intrude, and come again, and go through and through you in a moment of time. What inundation of life and thought is discharged from one soul into another through them!

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Waiting for the touch of spring.
Then, without MY breathing
There shall be soft breathing.
Then, without even a head of my own
There will be seeing everywhere.

- Rumi



Fix your eyes on God and do not talk about what is invisible,
So that he may place another look in your eyes.
It is in the vision of the physical eyes
That no invisible or secret thing exists.
But when the eye is turned toward the Light of God
What thing could remain hidden under such a Light?
Although all lights emanate from the Divine Light
Don't call all these lights "the Light of God";
It is the eternal light which is the Light of God,
The ephemeral light is an attribute of the body and the flesh.
...Oh God who gives the grace of vision!
The bird of vision is flying towards You with the wings of desire.
(Mystic Odes 833)

- Rumi


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The Eye of Spirit Versus the Eye of Matter

The basic difference in the points of view of science and Theosophy lies in the fact that science endeavors to prove with the eye of matter that which can only be perceived with the eye of spirit. It is ever the inner man who is the eternal witness, the Great Sifter, the changeless center. It is the center that establishes the relationship and determines the value of all peripheral objects. The shifting, the changeable, the evanescent, the illusive; these can never throw any light upon the Real and the Eternal; and yet this is the tantalizing task that science sets before itself. The mystery of life keeps ever receding for those who would approach it via its endless and labyrinthian emanations. Life can never be known from the outside.

- Helena Blavatsky


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The great and secret message of the experiential mystics the world over is that, with the eye of contemplation, Spirit can be seen. With the eye of contemplation, the great Within radiantly unfolds. And in all cases, the eye with which you see God is the same eye with which God sees you: the eye of contemplation.

- Ken Wilbur



If you remain in the eye of Spirit, every object is an object of radiant Beauty. If the doors of perception are cleansed, the entire Kosmos is your lost and found Beloved, the Original Face of primordial Beauty, forever,and forever, and endlessly forever.

- Ken Wilbur


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I entered and beheld with the Eye of my Soul, above the same eye of my soul and above my mind, the Light Unchangeable-not this common light, which shines for all flesh; nor as it were a greater of the same kind, as though the brightness of this should shine out more and more brightly and with its greatness take up all space. Not such was this light, but different, yea, far different from all these. Nor was it above my soul as oil is above water, nor yet as the sky is above the earth; but it was above me because it made me, and I was below it because I was made by it. He that knoweth the Truth, knoweth that Light; and he that knoweth it, knoweth Eternity.

- The Confessions of St. Augustine


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Knowing the anguish of his heart, Krishna replied, "Arjuna! I shall certainly satisfy you. But your physical eyes cannot see that Glory. The vis'varűpa cannot be perceived by the limited vision that sees and grasps only this nature. Therefore, I shall confer on you the supernatural eye. Now, see!," He said and manifested Himself before him as creation and more. What great Mercy! What superb experience!
Gîtâ Vahini, pp. 173-4

Commentary by Satya Sai Baba:
Through this eye of wisdom, Arjuna realized that the entire creation was contained in the divine vision. He realized that all living beings - human as well as animal and insect - were part of this vision. He realized that Krishna was responsible for all creation. He perceived that Krishna was present in every minute particle. Arjuna closed his eyes and the divine vision was there in all directions.

To acquire the awareness of the divine one need not journey to any special region or place. It is enough if the eye is turned inwards. In the Bhagavad Gîtâ, the inner reality, the âtmâ is described as "splendrous like a billion suns". But, man has not become aware of the light and power within; he still flounders in the darkness of ignorance.


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From Chapter VI, God Talks With Arjuna:The Bhagavad Gita
by Paramahansa Yogananda:

PENETRATING THE SPIRITUAL EYE

When the yogi concentrates long enough with half-open eyes at the point between the eyebrows, and when the gaze is without any restless motion, he will be able to see a steady light surrounded by other, but flickering, lights. He should not be diverted by this glimmering halo of the spiritual eye, but should steadfastly look at the center of the eye until he feels his mind completely absorbed within it. In time, he will see the perfect formation of the spiritual eye: a dark opal-blue globe within a quivering ring of flame. Gradually, by deep concentration, an extremely brilliant white star occasionally glimmers in the center of the blue. The star is the gateway through which the consciousness must pass to attain oneness with Spirit.

It requires time and calm practice to steady the light of the intuitive astral eye. It takes deeper and longer practice to see the star. It requires greater realization to hold the perception of the star. And it takes mastery in meditation to march the consciousness, valiantly triumphant, through the starry gate of light.

After the devotee is able at will to see his astral eye of light and intuition with either closed or open eyes, and to hold it steady indefinitely, he will eventually attain the power to look through it into Eternity; and through the starry gateway he will sail into Omnipresence. Progression through the spiritual eye, experienced by advancing yogis, unfolds first the wondrous perceptions of superconsciousness, the region of rays of light out of which all matter evolves. The creative cosmic rays hide like veils the presence of the immanent universal Christ-Krishna Consciousness, the Lord omnipresent in creation. By deeper concentration and meditation, the spiritual eye of intuition opens, and through the wisdom star the yogi becomes united to the Christ-Krishna Omnipresence; and thence, in deepest ecstasy, he reaches the Cosmic Consciousness of Spirit.

Be not satisfied with anything less than Spirit and the bliss of Spirit. Pay no attention to variations of the inner light, but practice concentration on the light of the spiritual eye. The light of the eye must be used only to look for God, the One whose presence is hidden on the throne of light.


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Use the light that is in you to revert to your natural clearness of sight.
- Lao Tzu


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When hungry, eat your rice; when tired, close your eyes. Fools may laugh at me, but wise men will know what I mean.
- Lin Chi


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The jewel center of interest is the eye within the eye.
#16 of 30 Essentials for Belief & Technique for Modern Prose, Jack Kerouac


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i
never
guessed any
thing(even a
universe)might be
so not quite believab
ly smallest as perfect this
(almost invisible where of a there of a)here of a
rubythroat's home with its still
ness which really's herself
(and to think that she's
warming three worlds)
who's ama
zingly
Eye

- e. e. cummings
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Today, I am a seed in dark soil
Waiting for the touch of spring.
Then, without MY breathing
There shall be soft breathing.
Then, without even a head of my own
There will be seeing everywhere.

- Rumi



Fix your eyes on God and do not talk about what is invisible,
So that he may place another look in your eyes.
It is in the vision of the physical eyes
That no invisible or secret thing exists.
But when the eye is turned toward the Light of God
What thing could remain hidden under such a Light?
Although all lights emanate from the Divine Light
Don't call all these lights "the Light of God";
It is the eternal light which is the Light of God,
The ephemeral light is an attribute of the body and the flesh.
...Oh God who gives the grace of vision!
The bird of vision is flying towards You with the wings of desire.
(Mystic Odes 833)

- Rumi


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The Eye of Spirit Versus the Eye of Matter

The basic difference in the points of view of science and Theosophy lies in the fact that science endeavors to prove with the eye of matter that which can only be perceived with the eye of spirit. It is ever the inner man who is the eternal witness, the Great Sifter, the changeless center. It is the center that establishes the relationship and determines the value of all peripheral objects. The shifting, the changeable, the evanescent, the illusive; these can never throw any light upon the Real and the Eternal; and yet this is the tantalizing task that science sets before itself. The mystery of life keeps ever receding for those who would approach it via its endless and labyrinthian emanations. Life can never be known from the outside.

- Helena Blavatsky


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The great and secret message of the experiential mystics the world over is that, with the eye of contemplation, Spirit can be seen. With the eye of contemplation, the great Within radiantly unfolds. And in all cases, the eye with which you see God is the same eye with which God sees you: the eye of contemplation.

- Ken Wilbur



If you remain in the eye of Spirit, every object is an object of radiant Beauty. If the doors of perception are cleansed, the entire Kosmos is your lost and found Beloved, the Original Face of primordial Beauty, forever,and forever, and endlessly forever.

- Ken Wilbur


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I entered and beheld with the Eye of my Soul, above the same eye of my soul and above my mind, the Light Unchangeable-not this common light, which shines for all flesh; nor as it were a greater of the same kind, as though the brightness of this should shine out more and more brightly and with its greatness take up all space. Not such was this light, but different, yea, far different from all these. Nor was it above my soul as oil is above water, nor yet as the sky is above the earth; but it was above me because it made me, and I was below it because I was made by it. He that knoweth the Truth, knoweth that Light; and he that knoweth it, knoweth Eternity.

- The Confessions of St. Augustine


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Knowing the anguish of his heart, Krishna replied, "Arjuna! I shall certainly satisfy you. But your physical eyes cannot see that Glory. The vis'varűpa cannot be perceived by the limited vision that sees and grasps only this nature. Therefore, I shall confer on you the supernatural eye. Now, see!," He said and manifested Himself before him as creation and more. What great Mercy! What superb experience!
Gîtâ Vahini, pp. 173-4

Commentary by Satya Sai Baba:
Through this eye of wisdom, Arjuna realized that the entire creation was contained in the divine vision. He realized that all living beings - human as well as animal and insect - were part of this vision. He realized that Krishna was responsible for all creation. He perceived that Krishna was present in every minute particle. Arjuna closed his eyes and the divine vision was there in all directions.

To acquire the awareness of the divine one need not journey to any special region or place. It is enough if the eye is turned inwards. In the Bhagavad Gîtâ, the inner reality, the âtmâ is described as "splendrous like a billion suns". But, man has not become aware of the light and power within; he still flounders in the darkness of ignorance.


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From Chapter VI, God Talks With Arjuna:The Bhagavad Gita
by Paramahansa Yogananda:

PENETRATING THE SPIRITUAL EYE

When the yogi concentrates long enough with half-open eyes at the point between the eyebrows, and when the gaze is without any restless motion, he will be able to see a steady light surrounded by other, but flickering, lights. He should not be diverted by this glimmering halo of the spiritual eye, but should steadfastly look at the center of the eye until he feels his mind completely absorbed within it. In time, he will see the perfect formation of the spiritual eye: a dark opal-blue globe within a quivering ring of flame. Gradually, by deep concentration, an extremely brilliant white star occasionally glimmers in the center of the blue. The star is the gateway through which the consciousness must pass to attain oneness with Spirit.

It requires time and calm practice to steady the light of the intuitive astral eye. It takes deeper and longer practice to see the star. It requires greater realization to hold the perception of the star. And it takes mastery in meditation to march the consciousness, valiantly triumphant, through the starry gate of light.

After the devotee is able at will to see his astral eye of light and intuition with either closed or open eyes, and to hold it steady indefinitely, he will eventually attain the power to look through it into Eternity; and through the starry gateway he will sail into Omnipresence. Progression through the spiritual eye, experienced by advancing yogis, unfolds first the wondrous perceptions of superconsciousness, the region of rays of light out of which all matter evolves. The creative cosmic rays hide like veils the presence of the immanent universal Christ-Krishna Consciousness, the Lord omnipresent in creation. By deeper concentration and meditation, the spiritual eye of intuition opens, and through the wisdom star the yogi becomes united to the Christ-Krishna Omnipresence; and thence, in deepest ecstasy, he reaches the Cosmic Consciousness of Spirit.

Be not satisfied with anything less than Spirit and the bliss of Spirit. Pay no attention to variations of the inner light, but practice concentration on the light of the spiritual eye. The light of the eye must be used only to look for God, the One whose presence is hidden on the throne of light.


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Use the light that is in you to revert to your natural clearness of sight.
- Lao Tzu


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When hungry, eat your rice; when tired, close your eyes. Fools may laugh at me, but wise men will know what I mean.
- Lin Chi


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The jewel center of interest is the eye within the eye.
#16 of 30 Essentials for Belief & Technique for Modern Prose, Jack Kerouac


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i
never
guessed any
thing(even a
universe)might be
so not quite believab
ly smallest as perfect this
(almost invisible where of a there of a)here of a
rubythroat's home with its still
ness which really's herself
(and to think that she's
warming three worlds)
who's ama
zingly
Eye

- e. e. cummings
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good bump. gonna take me some time to read it all, but your first post was already worth it. great thread.
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good bump. gonna take me some time to read it all, but your first post was already worth it. great thread.
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THE NATURAL IN SIGHT OF HENRY DAVID THOREAU:


Could a greater miracle take place than for us to look through each other's eyes for an instant?

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Great God, I ask thee for no meaner pelf
Than that I may not disappoint myself,
That in my action I may soar as high
As I can now discern with this clear eye.

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We are as much as we see. Faith is sight and knowledge. The hands only serve the eyes.

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The light which puts out our eyes is darkness to us. Only that day dawns to which we are awake. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning star.

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Objects are concealed from our view, not so much because they are out of the course of our visual ray as because we do not bring our minds and eyes to bear on them; for there is no power to see in the eye itself, any more than in any other jelly.

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We cannot see anything until we are possessed with the idea of it, take it into our heads, -- and then we can hardly see anything else.

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How much more, then, it requires different intentions of the eye and of the mind to attend to different departments of knowledge! How differently the poet and the naturalist look at objects!

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Direct your eye inward and you'll find a thousand regions in your mind yet undiscovered. Travel them, and be expert in home-cosmography.
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THE NATURAL IN SIGHT OF HENRY DAVID THOREAU:


Could a greater miracle take place than for us to look through each other's eyes for an instant?

-

Great God, I ask thee for no meaner pelf
Than that I may not disappoint myself,
That in my action I may soar as high
As I can now discern with this clear eye.

-

We are as much as we see. Faith is sight and knowledge. The hands only serve the eyes.

-

The light which puts out our eyes is darkness to us. Only that day dawns to which we are awake. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning star.

-

Objects are concealed from our view, not so much because they are out of the course of our visual ray as because we do not bring our minds and eyes to bear on them; for there is no power to see in the eye itself, any more than in any other jelly.

-

We cannot see anything until we are possessed with the idea of it, take it into our heads, -- and then we can hardly see anything else.

-

How much more, then, it requires different intentions of the eye and of the mind to attend to different departments of knowledge! How differently the poet and the naturalist look at objects!

-

Direct your eye inward and you'll find a thousand regions in your mind yet undiscovered. Travel them, and be expert in home-cosmography.
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