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Old 05-28-2006, 10:57 PM   #41
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Re: He is frightened to.

because he's frustrated..
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:40 AM   #42
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Re: He is frightened to.

I think Cold and Ugly could be an early less complex (theme) version of the Grudge, or at least can relate to it.
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:08 AM   #43
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I think Cold and Ugly could be an early less complex (theme) version of the Grudge, or at least can relate to it.

yeah, I agree... good observation.
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Old 07-11-2006, 08:37 AM   #44
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Re: He is frightened to.

Got some pretentious folks up in here...
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:31 PM   #45
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haha... anyone have an egg?
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:56 AM   #46
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Re: He is frightened to.

That's some pretty sweet insight TD (reffering to your original post). It makes a lot of sense and they're definetly some of Maynards most potent lyrics.

However I'm confused by the conclusion you draw at the end regarding his reason for wearing female attire. Why would Maynard disguise his own insecurities behind a female protagonist in the lyrics but then come out on stage dressed as a woman in order to express what is usually kept behind 'the wall'. Isn't he using the female identity as a part of his wall in the first place?
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:49 PM   #47
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Re: He is frightened to.

Just speculating on why he dresses up like that occasionally..

maybe that female on stage is the same "her" he refers to in the song...

but it's not just about the song "cold and ugly" when he used to dress like that... that sort of persona had multiple purposes.

I do see what you're saying, but like I said, the scope of the female attire goes well beyond how it relates to this particular song.

I agree, pretty potent and telling lyrics...

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Old 08-09-2006, 07:21 PM   #48
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Re: He is frightened to.

[QUOTE=Hidden in her words and eyes- Is a wall that's cold and ugly and she's scared as hell.
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If you remember, Maynard did wear a woman suit...

I never thought about that theory. It never occured to me that it could be him.
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:40 AM   #49
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Re: He is frightened to.

Very nice and interesting interpretation! All that you say is reasonable, but I just FEEL another one, much more linear (a person afraid to show off herself 'coz she's scared of other people's thoughs).

Your theory about Maynard's dress-ups on stage can be related to the "Tool Enigma" (Split Personas thread on Opiate section) though.

Anyway, I don't think that the lyrics he submitted are mistakes-free; just take a look at Opiate's one (guide instead of use). But he could mean I'm frightened to penetrate her (not in a sexual way) asd well.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:33 AM   #50
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Re: He is frightened to.

Honestly , im all for introspective analysis of TOOL's lyrics , but i think as far as the opiate EP goes , its fairly cut & dry.
Sure, your perspective on the lyrics are refreshing , but i agree with Alka's take on it , being that it might just be about someone afraid of revealing themselves before the judgmental eyes of everyone/anyone , and maynards distaste for her passive nature , and his admittance to harboring the same complex.

The on stage persona can definitely be attributed to Alka's "Tool Enigma" , the female attire i always thought was a reference to the proverbial "Hooker with a Penis" ( someone/something that whores itself out but screws you just as equally).
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:02 PM   #51
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ThreeD is right. That is not some mistake you make. It doesn't keep happening throught the whole song. The song is so much clearer when you think about it in TD's perspective.
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