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Old 11-13-2010, 12:58 AM   #6601
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Did you ever do lights for APC previously? I just ask because I remember there was this one really cool setup they used back in 2003 or 2004, it was like a bunch of these fiberoptic lights twisted around poles onstage and made to look like glowing trees that grew up into the rafters... I thought that was so cool. Just curious if you maybe had something to do with that also.

Thanks for all your work with Tool. Xcel Center this summer was lots of fun.
I didn't design or operate any of the previous APC tours, but I was on the last tour in 2004.
On that tour I was one of the lighting crew and one of my main jobs was to assemble those fiber optic trees every day. They looked kinda cool, but were a major pain in the ass to set up.
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I didn't design or operate any of the previous APC tours, but I was on the last tour in 2004.
On that tour I was one of the lighting crew and one of my main jobs was to assemble those fiber optic trees every day. They looked kinda cool, but were a major pain in the ass to set up.
Just watched Carson Daily - thanks again for that tip BTW

Lights and stage look cool.

The Noose sounded good.

Interesting to hear MJK talk about struggling vocally especially with MDN.
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Watched the cd live show this morning. Maynard says I cant do it anymore my voice is TOAST . I found it interesting how he explained how you lay down vocals for an album not realizing you gotta do that shit live. I wonder what the vocals will be like for the new TOOL album. Father Time Will Tone Down All Of Us.
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Watched the cd live show this morning. Maynard says I cant do it anymore my voice is TOAST . I found it interesting how he explained how you lay down vocals for an album not realizing you gotta do that shit live. I wonder what the vocals will be like for the new TOOL album. Father Time Will Tone Down All Of Us.
I think MJK is being a little hard on himself - and you are taking it a little out of context.

He was nver able to replicate all of MDN even back then...he mentions (and I remember him saying this back in the 90's) that he wanted to stretch himself on MDN and that many Tool fans didn't even realize he could sing.. He was of course being facetious for the most part.


In the last couple of years, I've seen Puscifer 4 times and Tool 3, I would say that he's adjusting his style as he ages, they all do, and to me it sounds fine.


Rob Halford is a good example of a rock singer (with much more mileage) that has adjusted to his voice aging and is making a decent comeback.


This all being said, if Tool does a double album, as has been discussed, I would expect lots of instrumentals..
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This all being said, if Tool does a double album, as has been discussed, I would expect lots of instrumentals..
As much as I love Maynard (and I really, really do---he's my favorite vocalist of all time), I would absolutely welcome Tool to put more instrumental stuff on record. Let's just go back to the most obvious example, one of the heaviest, most badass songs they've ever made: Triad.

I would also like to see their electronic interludes stretched out. I'd be interested in a full 80 minute album of just that.
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I thought it was funny when Carson Daly suggested that the wine consumption was messing with Maynard's voice, to which Maynard replied something like "Maybe, but I'd never admit it."
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Anyone have a link to the Carson Daly stuff? I looked on Youtube and it's all camera-pointed-at-TV bullshit.

I downloaded a decent quality MPG of the Kimmel stuff but the Daly material seems more interesting.
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ok check this out:

Just got a APC Mer De Noms ticket for $60.

The girl said she was not really into the band and decided to sell to a fan after seeing the APC facebook page and all the hardcore fans who were bummin hard about getting skunked.


The reason I'm posting this, that when I asked her how she got ticket online, she said that every single person she knew that used Safari was able to get tickets for SF - including 3 day passes.

and

Not a single person using Mozilla Firefox or IE was able to get through. (add myself to that group.)


Hmmmmm
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Anyone have a link to the Carson Daly stuff? I looked on Youtube and it's all camera-pointed-at-TV bullshit.

I downloaded a decent quality MPG of the Kimmel stuff but the Daly material seems more interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoo2VV7M9DA
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Danny might be taking the Jeff Ocheltree-designed bronze Custom Craft kit down under..... Awesome kit!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoo2VV7M9DA
thanks for the link. great interview and performance
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Danny might be taking the Jeff Ocheltree-designed bronze Custom Craft kit down under..... Awesome kit!
Sounds good in theory - does it really make that much difference for us out front though?
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as if carson daly still has a show
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I didn't design or operate any of the previous APC tours, but I was on the last tour in 2004.
On that tour I was one of the lighting crew and one of my main jobs was to assemble those fiber optic trees every day. They looked kinda cool, but were a major pain in the ass to set up.
Oh yeah, I bet they were. But they looked so wild! Thats still one of my favorite stage setups.

Thanks, lots of folks appreciate your insights.
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Sounds good in theory - does it really make that much difference for us out front though?
yeah probably not, if you are into all the sound tech stuff it might. Brass will have a different tone but may not notice it :) Still awesome kit if your into drumming.....

He doest usually take it as it weighs a tonne, 93lb per bass drum!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVbFrl9wLBA
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yeah probably not, if you are into all the sound tech stuff it might. Brass will have a different tone but may not notice it :) Still awesome kit if your into drumming.....

He doest usually take it as it weighs a tonne, 93lb per bass drum!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVbFrl9wLBA
That alone makes it surprising they would drag it all them way around the world.

To answer Hellboy - it's visually stunning, provided you are close enough to see it.
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I'm sorry, but that's a retarded statement.

Taste may be subjective, but Dark Side, Animals, and Wish You Were Here shit all over The Wall.

The Wall was the end of Pink Floyd and not without good reason; Roger Waters is, and will always be, a total wanker.

Hell, I would take Piper over the Wall.
Many people here realise that all this shit's purely fucking subjective. However, since you don't, please allow me to point to the fact that this post truly proves what a fucking idiot you are.

Having said that (and as epic as I do believe The Wall to be), I would would agree that Animals and Wish You Were Here are amazing beyond measure.

That aside, the rest of your post is a complete load of rubbish. How could you possibly say that Roger Waters is a total wanker when he wrote much of the music on the albums that you've mentioned?
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As much as I love Maynard (and I really, really do---he's my favorite vocalist of all time), I would absolutely welcome Tool to put more instrumental stuff on record. Let's just go back to the most obvious example, one of the heaviest, most badass songs they've ever made: Triad.

I would also like to see their electronic interludes stretched out. I'd be interested in a full 80 minute album of just that.
Ditto sir!
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she said that every single person she knew that used Safari was able to get tickets for SF - including 3 day passes.

and

Not a single person using Mozilla Firefox or IE was able to get through. (add myself to that group.)


Hmmmmm
That's so trippy man. Some sort of crazy Apple bias? Anyone here use Opera or Chrome to get their tickets? heh.

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what is up with that crazy crop?? Someone uploaded it to DIME and it's 1080i with the same image. Do they not show Carson Daly in full widescreen or something? o_O
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^^yeah carson daly show was not hd on my direct tv. pretty much everything on nbc is hd for me but carson's budget must suck so much that they cant get hd
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That alone makes it surprising they would drag it all them way around the world.

To answer Hellboy - it's visually stunning, provided you are close enough to see it.
if a recent conversation I had with Blair comes to fruition then hopefully I will be...
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I think MJK is being a little hard on himself - and you are taking it a little out of context.

He was nver able to replicate all of MDN even back then...he mentions (and I remember him saying this back in the 90's) that he wanted to stretch himself on MDN and that many Tool fans didn't even realize he could sing.. He was of course being facetious for the most part.


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Or it's a conspiracy and he's really just saving his voice for the next Tool CD whereupon he does a full minute ball-curdling scream that blows The Grudge out of the water and thus completely stopping Earth's rotation and carrying out the most epic album release of all time :ninja:

Me? I really wish I didn't have a damned deviated septum. I have to load up on Allegra and stay away from booze for my voice to sound anything like there's not a rattling bone in the head voice notes. That alone is enough of a vocal discouragement. Having such a clean voice like Maynard or Mikael from Opeth must feel like such a damned blessing (And he smokes like a f@#king chimney too!).
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Watched the cd live show this morning. Maynard says I cant do it anymore my voice is TOAST . I found it interesting how he explained how you lay down vocals for an album not realizing you gotta do that shit live. I wonder what the vocals will be like for the new TOOL album. Father Time Will Tone Down All Of Us.
Much upon the lines of Right In Two, I would think. I also expect the music to follow this path as well. Seemed very message laden to end the CD with it as a sort of a tip for the future.
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what is up with that crazy crop?? Someone uploaded it to DIME and it's 1080i with the same image. Do they not show Carson Daly in full widescreen or something? o_O
Last Call is produced in letterboxed standard def, so when it's shown on an HD station it's in the "windowbox" format (black border all around the image) because they don't upconvert it to fill a true widescreen.
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Lucky bastard!
But yeah, I agree with the others when they pull the black cover off that big-ass shiny bronze kit and DC walks out... It's pretty sweet. A few times I think "the kit" got a bigger cheer than Danny. His back-up set they've taken on the last two US tours didn't have the same impact, for me at least.
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Last Call is produced in letterboxed standard def, so when it's shown on an HD station it's in the "windowbox" format (black border all around the image) because they don't upconvert it to fill a true widescreen.
Wow. Back to the 20th century over there. That's kinda frustrating.
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Wow. Back to the 20th century over there. That's kinda frustrating.
Don't let it bring you down bro.
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Don't let it bring you down bro.
Hahaha, yes!
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Oh shit, I need to plan a Hawaii vacation.
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Currently checking airfare to Honolulu... This could get expensive.
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Currently checking airfare to Honolulu... This could get expensive.
but they're going to touch your junk!
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haven't visited this place in a little while.

hai.

oh and, as if hawaii wasn't already an amazing place to visit...
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but they're going to touch your junk!
<stares at screen blankly>

LOL!
(took me a second to figure that one out)

I'm going to opt for the x-ray body scan to avoid any junk touching.
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I'd deal with a questionable groping to get there.
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that's the closest a Tool fan will be to getting laid!
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only 340 to lulu from seattle, not bad, this may be in my future.
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Re: General Tool tour questions / discussion

Ridiculously excited about APC tonight...
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Re: General Tool tour questions / discussion

anybody get guitar tabs from UG and see the APC news link that mentioned front man Bernard James Keenan
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