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Old 04-29-2010, 09:04 AM   #2281
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I got to see Flood like 4 times...
That song never gets old. It's the only song where everytime, I completely get lost in it. I'm not thinking of anything else...just letting the waves wash me away
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How sad that last summer's tour killed my enthusiasm for this summer's.

Maynard was so half-assed in Cincy.
Agreed about this Cincy show. I fooled myself into thinking that the PNC pavilion show would be epic. Naw.
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I got to see Flood like 4 times...
That song never gets old. It's the only song where everytime, I completely get lost in it. I'm not thinking of anything else...just letting the waves wash me away
totally agree. I seen Flood performed back in the day also and I really enjoyed the latest version.
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I saw them 7 times since 10,000 Days came out, and essentially got the same setlist 7 times. Only differences were once time (first) I got "Sober" and once I got "Right in Two". The rest was all the same.
It really angered me that they threw around songs during 2006-2009 like Pushit, Swamp Song, The Patient, and Opiate, and not once out of the 7 times did I get any of them.
Their last tour, last Summer....didn't they even advertise they would be re-working songs and dusting off old ones? I could swear I read that almost exact quote. So I went to 2 last Summer....both were the exact same setlist as the year before, but minus wings 1 and 2.
That being said, they are my favourite band and I will see them...hoping by some miracle I get to see one different song live. Eulogy!....just once and all the rest could be the same, and i'd be happy. Or The Grudge, or parabola...ugh.
I feel I spent 5 out of the 7 concerts perking my ears up in between songs and praying for a different song.
During their first tour of 10,000 Days (after the warm up tour) I with a group went to Montreal....got up close to the stage. During their break where they sit on the stage we started chanting "Eulogy Eulogy" and more people around us joined. Maynard heard....and wagged his finger "no"
That's my rant/ But I am excited to see them again...even IF the same, but am begging for at least 1 different song in the setlist.
I saw Metallica 4 times this tour...2 and a half hours every show, and every show was different by at least 6-10 songs.
and so it begins.
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Singing songs to open the same now healed wounds has to be tough. While it sucks that those songs are so F@#KING GOOD, singing about whatever affected Maynard to write the Grudge nine years ago, or Eulogy almost two decades ago eliminates their philosophy of self-growth because it would be perpetuating the same things, emotions, feelings that they felt then. Me, as a musician, when I look back at songs, lyrics, moods I wrote just four years ago, I think, "Wow, this feels so immature. Next!"

I bet they're in the same boat.

Don't expect 10,000 Days to ever be played again. I'm surprised Schism is still played. There are some deep wounds in those lyrics.

Then again, it made them...huge...
I think this is pretty spot on. You guys remember that Tool special in Revolver magazine when Maynard said that he regretted writing the lyrics to Prison Sex? Songs like that deal with painful memories, which is why I don't think you're going to see them live again.

Also, wasn't Maynard kinda coerced into last summer's tour by the rest of the guys? I think Adam, Danny, and Justin really wanted to do a tour and so Maynard was put in a tough spot and caved (I feel like I remember reading this somewhere) even though he had to miss an important part of the wine making season.

It feels like this tour wasn't as much of a spur of the moment deal, despite looking like it. I mean, we are drawing close to the five year mark. It's hard to read exactly what they're up to.

Summer tour --> record new album in the fall --> drop it in May of next year? Who the hell knows though, right? If we knew anything they wouldn't be the Tool we love and hate.

I just wish I'd seen as many shows as some of you guys here to be able to complain about the setlist, haha.
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I think this is pretty spot on. You guys remember that Tool special in Revolver magazine when Maynard said that he regretted writing the lyrics to Prison Sex? Songs like that deal with painful memories, which is why I don't think you're going to see them live again.

Also, wasn't Maynard kinda coerced into last summer's tour by the rest of the guys? I think Adam, Danny, and Justin really wanted to do a tour and so Maynard was put in a tough spot and caved (I feel like I remember reading this somewhere) even though he had to miss an important part of the wine making season.

It feels like this tour wasn't as much of a spur of the moment deal, despite looking like it. I mean, we are drawing close to the five year mark. It's hard to read exactly what they're up to.

Summer tour --> record new album in the fall --> drop it in May of next year? Who the hell knows though, right? If we knew anything they wouldn't be the Tool we love and hate.

I just wish I'd seen as many shows as some of you guys here to be able to complain about the setlist, haha.
You are right about Maynard being talked into doing last years tour. He did not want to do that. He said it in interviews. Also I have seen Tool a bunch. I have seen the tours for Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 days and I have no complaint about the set lists for any show I have been to. The only people complaining are the people that follow the band around to 10 different cities expecting to hear a different song or two.
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I enjoyed every show...but went to that many also thinking "this may be the one".
If I DIDN'T go to one show and read the results and foudn out they played something different...i'd be crushed.
Here's hoping there's even a stop near me this time around. It's been a year, and even if the same setlist...I still want to experience it
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I enjoyed every show...but went to that many also thinking "this may be the one".
If I DIDN'T go to one show and read the results and foudn out they played something different...i'd be crushed.
Here's hoping there's even a stop near me this time around. It's been a year, and even if the same setlist...I still want to experience it
I hope there come to the Northwest this time because I didn't get to see them last summer.
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ALL YOU GUYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SET LIST OF LAST SUMMERS TOUR SHOULD REEALIZE THAT LAST SUMMERS TOUR WAS AN OUTDOOR FESTIVAL TYPE TOUR WITH SHORTER SET LISTS AND PLAYING TO CROWDS THAT WERE SOMETIMES THERE TO SEE OTHER BANDS

THIS TOUR WILL HAVE LONGER/ DIFFERENT SET LISTS

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ALL YOU GUYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SET LIST OF LAST SUMMERS TOUR SHOULD REEALIZE THAT LAST SUMMERS TOUR WAS AN OUTDOOR FESTIVAL TYPE TOUR WITH SHORTER SET LISTS AND PLAYING TO CROWDS THAT WERE SOMETIMES THERE TO SEE OTHER BANDS

THIS TOUR WILL HAVE LONGER/ DIFFERENT SET LISTS

AND THEY WILL PLAY THE PATIENT IN SEATTLE
No. They had their own non-festival tour...and the setlists were the same as their festival shows. An hour and 15 mins
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YES I HOPE THEY ARE AT THE GORGE JULY 10TH TOO

THAT WOULD BE THE SHIT
I KNOW THEY WILL BE IN SEATTLE AROUND JULY 10 -13 THOUGH
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No. They had their own non-festival tour...and the setlists were the same as their festival shows. An hour and 15 mins
This. The real difference between the indoor/outdoor set was we got full versions of things like Lost Keys.
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THE SET LIST CHANGED QUITE A BIT IN THE SHOWS IVE SEEN SINCE 10000 DAYS CAME OUT

SEATTLE 2006
Lost Keys / Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
46 & 2
The Pot
Jambi
Schism
Eon Blue Apocolypse / The Patient
Sober
Lateralus
Vicarious
Aenema

THE GORGE 2006
Stinkfist
The Pot
Forty Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
Opiate
Sober
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema

BILLINGS 2007
Jambi
(-) ions (briefly)/Stinkfist
Forty-six & 2
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
Flood
Wings for Marie/10,000 Days
Lateralus
Vicarious

LIST OF SHOWS GOES ON AND ON BUT MY WIFE IS GETTING PISSED AND WANTS TO USE THE CPU FOR HOMEWORK
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I saw this on Toolband......

AB - Edmonton - May 13 - The Billiard Club
AL - Birmingham - June 17 - Workplay Theater
AZ - Flagstaff - May 22 - Orpheum Theater
CA - Modesto - May 14 & 15 - The State Theatre of Modesto
CA - Sacramento - Jun. 10 - The Crest Theatre
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MA - Nantucket - May 17 - 20 & May 22 - 24 - Starlight Theater
MI - Grand Rapids - June 17 - Wealthy Theater
MI - Three Oaks - May 6 - Vickers Theatre
MO - Kansas City - Apr. 29 - May 2 - Screenland Crossroads
MO - St. Louis - May 20 - Tivoli Theatre
MT - Missoula - May 7 - The Wilma Theatre
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NV - Las Vegas - June 17 - Rave Motion Pictures Town Square Center
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NY - New York City - May 28 - City Winery
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TX - Dallas - May 20 - Q&A with Eric Glomski - Magnolia West Village
VT - Burlington - May 14-20 - Roxy Cinema
WI - Milwaukee - May 20 - Times Cinema

Too bad it was UPCOMING "BLOOD INTO WINE" SCREENINGS
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Singing songs to open the same now healed wounds has to be tough. While it sucks that those songs are so F@#KING GOOD, singing about whatever affected Maynard to write the Grudge nine years ago, or Eulogy almost two decades ago eliminates their philosophy of self-growth because it would be perpetuating the same things, emotions, feelings that they felt then. Me, as a musician, when I look back at songs, lyrics, moods I wrote just four years ago, I think, "Wow, this feels so immature. Next!"

I bet they're in the same boat.

Don't expect 10,000 Days to ever be played again. I'm surprised Schism is still played. There are some deep wounds in those lyrics.

Then again, it made them...huge...
I get that, I totally do. I've even said the same thing before here on TDN in an attempt to defend the set list. But even still I can't help but crave something surprising. I'm very much aware that Wings/10,000 days will never be played again, and I got my chance to see that live. I may not have absorbed it as well as i wanted to but... meh, I was there. It would just be nice if they left some flexibility in the set list so lets say... Maynard is kind of in a ticked of mood and wouldn't mind doing Hooker with a Penis, or Tick n Leeches, or Disgustipated, or even Hush.

And then do one's like Triad and Disposition and like I said, DEBUT INTENSION! Having 3-4 versions off the setlist to be used based on mood or venue would be nice is all.

They will do what they want to do in the end and I understand that and it wont stop me from seeing them.

Its just... cravings really.
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omg, if they ever play pushit(salival version) live again, or disposition/reflection/triad...

I will shit my vagina.
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O, and do you think Tool will ever play Merkaba live again??

I'd like to hear Danny's drumming on this song before I die tbh
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Reflections live would be out of this world.
I would be grinning for a month if I got to see that, Eulogy, Pushit, The Patient, The Grudge, Jimmy, H, Parabola, Prison Sex, Part of Me, Jerk Off or Cold and Ugly live
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You are right about Maynard being talked into doing last years tour. He did not want to do that. He said it in interviews. Also I have seen Tool a bunch. I have seen the tours for Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 days and I have no complaint about the set lists for any show I have been to. The only people complaining are the people that follow the band around to 10 different cities expecting to hear a different song or two.
This makes makes a Summer tour in 2010 even more of a head scratcher. He's just coming of a big tour with Puscifer that had to consume a lot of energy.

Maybe it was a package deal - "hey May May we want to do a tour this summer AND next summer too"

as far as the set list goes.


If we don't get a 50% turnover in songs, I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. I know we are always going to get Stinkfist but there are many songs that need a break.

One thing that is for sure it will be interesting to see how it goes down.
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If we don't get a 50% turnover in songs, I will be EXTREMELY disappointed. I know we are always going to get Stinkfist but there are many songs that need a break.
I'd bet good money that we won't get anywhere close to 50% turnover. Not trying to be pessimistic, but until the new album comes out, I think they'll stick with what they've been doing.
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I think the setlist is going to look a lot like last summer's tour with two or three wild cards.
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i can handle the same setlist again but I expect something added to it(didn't even get aenima last year) and excited to see what junior has in store for us. There's always something new every time
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I'd bet good money that we won't get anywhere close to 50% turnover. Not trying to be pessimistic, but until the new album comes out, I think they'll stick with what they've been doing.
ok so lets look at it.

10 songs. So in my post I wanted a 50% turn over. That means 5 songs different.

Jambi (out) (Sober?)
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism (out) (The Pot?)
Lost Keys (out) (Parabol)
Rosetta Stoned (out) (Parabola)
Flood (out) (swamp Song?)
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Vicarious

Not such a pipe dream :)
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ALL YOU GUYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SET LIST OF LAST SUMMERS TOUR SHOULD REEALIZE THAT LAST SUMMERS TOUR WAS AN OUTDOOR FESTIVAL TYPE TOUR WITH SHORTER SET LISTS AND PLAYING TO CROWDS THAT WERE SOMETIMES THERE TO SEE OTHER BANDS

THIS TOUR WILL HAVE LONGER/ DIFFERENT SET LISTS

AND THEY WILL PLAY THE PATIENT IN SEATTLE
1) Turn off your damn caps lock.

2) Last summers tour was not a "outdoor festival type tour". 4 Festivals out of 16 total shows.

3) The crowds were not there to see other bands. Tool headlined every festival day they played, and for the other 12 shows - I don't think Tweak Bird was THAT popular.

4) Turn off your damn caps lock.
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ok so lets look at it.

10 songs. So in my post I wanted a 50% turn over. That means 5 songs different.

Jambi (out) (Sober?)
Stinkfist
46 & 2
Schism (out) (The Pot?)
Lost Keys (out) (Parabol)
Rosetta Stoned (out) (Parabola)
Flood (out) (swamp Song?)
Aenema
Lateralus
Vicarious

Not such a pipe dream :)
That's feasible...but if I were a bettin' man, I'd take the "under" on 50% turnover. ;-)
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That's feasible...but if I were a bettin' man, I'd take the "under" on 50% turnover. ;-)
at least I didn't go with Ticks and Leeches, D/R/T or 3rd Eye like a couple of dreamers predicted last year...

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WHATS WRONG WITH DREAMING!?! Oh shit.. sorry kanaduh.
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so just curious if the rest of you are going to toolband every couple min just hoping the dates are up like me
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so just curious if the rest of you are going to toolband every couple min just hoping the dates are up like me
No.
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No.
Well, not really.
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ha denial!
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Hey, the dude lives in Kansas. If I was living there I think constantly refreshing Toolband would be the only logical thing to do.
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and dodging tornados? or searching for the yellow brick road...
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My personal prediction set list wise

Jambi
Stinkfist
46 + 2 or Opiate or Sober
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
D/R/T mabey a bit shortened but would replace wings?
Flood or Swamp Song
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Vicarious

although pretty much the same reflection would be nice as well as something to replace 46 and 2. Also kinda hope Lateralus is at the end. Or third eye. that'd be nice haha
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^Uh-greed. I really hope they stop closing with Vicarious, especially after Lateralus. It's such an anti-climax.
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and dodging tornados? or searching for the yellow brick road...
Being a storm geek, yes, the weather is probably the only interesting thing out there. Well for me anyway.
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Hey, the dude lives in Kansas. If I was living there I think constantly refreshing Toolband would be the only logical thing to do.
Thank You Sir! I live in a town of 1000 people an hour away from any town big enough to have a fucking walmart i drive 5-8hrs for any concerts or fancy things a city might have. So seeing tool dates on that website is gonna be like and orgasm/christmasy type feeling
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and dodging tornados? or searching for the yellow brick road...
Wish i'd see a tornado we don't even get rain where i live just wind and i have a feedlot on everyside of town so it constantly smells like cowshit outside.
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i just stickied my left sock above the toilet

ill take a a pic after this dude takes me to the 7-11 (thanks youcome again)
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