Does anyone else hear 'divide me' instead of 'divine need' in the 'd*m my eyes' part?
i really cant figure out that line :S

me n my boyfriend jon were actually just talking about that yesterday i was telling him about all the ppl on here that are hearing leeches, i dont think leches makes any since and he also thinks its a deffinate legions we're hearing.

M.

OK...ive got an out look on this....i think it is....
damn my eyes, i
f they should compromise a fulcrum*(point of support)*
want and need divide me,
then i might as well be gone.....
my theory behind this is that the eyes must use a sort of "fulcrum"....a point on which they must agree....so that a person can see properly....if one eye is, lets say, on "want" and the other on "need" then you are divided....and your eyes are useless they might as well be blind...or gone....this would also play in to the whole packaging of the album....two images become one to show the whole image....two (of the SAME) 2d images become one 3-d image and that is how we see our world

Ok here's what I think...

Here from the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan I do
On treasures and flesh, never few.

But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I'd Lose you just one day

The devil and his had me down
In love with the dark side I'd found.
Dabble in all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown.

But you changed that all for me
Lifted me up, turned me round
So I
I
I
I
I would
I would
I would
Wish this all away

Pray like a martyr dusk to dawn
Beg like a hooker all night long
Tempted the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along

But I
And I would
If I could
And I would
Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No prize that could hold
Sway or justify my giving away my center

So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow would take you away
You're my peace of mind, my home, my saturn
I'm just trying to hold on
One more day

Dim my eyes
Dim my eyes

Dim my eyes if they should compromise our fulcrum
what t* need divide me (tough one I simply can't hear it)
then I might as well be gone

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son/sun??

Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent son

Shine on upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Divided I'm withering away
Divide and I'm withering away

Shine upon the many, light our way
Benevolent son

Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So as one survive
another day and season

Silence leech and save your poison
Silence leech and stay out of my way


I think the song is about his son as previously mentioned but the Indonesian Jambi reference is weird. Maynard as the Sultan having everything he ever dreamt of, but really not wanting anything if his wasn't there. Breathe in union describes his mental need for his son to make it through the day and his sons need for him as a parent, the "silence leech" part tells me that some thoughts in his mind fucks with him.
I may be grabbing for air and it's a bit difficult giving you my take on the lyrics as english is not my preferred language but I tried :)

"damn my eyes, i
f they should compromise a fulcrum*(point of support)*
want and need divide me,
then i might as well be gone....."

Doesn't make sense.

"Dim my eyes, if they should compromise a full-grown wanton need, divine need then I might as well be gone."

Which means:

"If logic dictates everything I do and stops me from pursuing my natural desires then I might as well be dead."

The second time IS Jambi eyes, there's no doubt on this.

Surprised this possibility hasn't been explored:

jamb also jambe ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jm)
n.
One of a pair of vertical posts or pieces that together form the sides of a door, window frame, or fireplace, for example.
A projecting mass or columnar part.


Possibly Jamb my eye? the title of the song, "Jambi" seems to be a play on words in which the I is jammed onto the Jamb.

for being a traitor to the cause!

the cause being "not believing that the word 'jambi' is contained anywhere in the lyrics of the song of the same name"

So if I could I'd wish for one more taste
If I thought tomorrow, you wouldn't taste the same
You're my peace of mine, I know, my sandwhich
I'm just trying to hold on.....
Just one more taste

Jam I cry
Jam I cry

Jam I find now I should
Hope to find - a full crumb
wanting the sandwhichy
taste I find so well until it's Goooooonnnneeeeeeee!!!!

I think this is correct because tool always include the sone title into the song's lyrics....
For examples from each record:
Opiate, prison sex, stinkfist, Merkave, schism,
and most currently.....Jam bi

this is completely incoherent...opiate...no, prison sex...no, stinkfist...no, merkave?=merkaba....not even close, and finally schism....yeah that's a no....

Wow it is almost like he tried to do that! Like he had a point to make or something!

JShaney is retard, JAM I CRY? So you are deaf, too.

Now, seriously, your sarcasm/irony is not good.

on a serious not here's my "other guess"

Damn my Eyes X2

Damn my Eyes if they should compromise
or fall from wanting thee divine me
then I'd might as well be gone

Using the adjective definition of divine: (being or having the nature of a god)
This interpretation assumes he means....

1. I'd might as well be blind (damn my eyes)
2. If I do something despite the fact I have "seen with my eyes"/experienced it to be "stupid,wrong,ignorant...ect.." (if I should compromise)
3. An example would be to worship a god even though he has had experiences that have led this to be "the way that I would never ever choose to be~Judith" (fall from wanting the divine me) ~godlike-version of Good'ol Maynard?!yikes

4. (then id might as well be gone)
This line sums it all up and means-
He's seen things for which he thinks believing in god is stupid.
So if he were to compromise what he's seen and do it anyway.
Then he'd might as well be "deaf, dumb, blind(damn his eyes)......dead and (gone)".

Ok it was a joke......you are being critical of me for what reason??????
and, duh, obviously none of those songs have the song title in there lyrics.....
just as "by my joke" you could assume I don't believe Jambi does....... :)

You're an interesting character Howard.....If in your opinion anyone who jokes around is a retard, then your opinion is worth less than the membership cost I payed to join this forum.

Congrats for earning my disrespect.

Jambi

Here from the king's mountain view,
Here from the wild dream come true,
Feast like a sultan I do,
On treasures and flesh never few.

But I, I would wish it all away,
If I thought I'd lose you just one day.

The Devil and his had me down,
In love with the dark side I’d found,
Dabbling all the way down,
Up to my neck soon to drown.

But you changed that all for me,
Lifted me up, turned me ‘round,
So I...
I…
I…
I…

I would,
I would,
I would wish this all away.

Prayed like a martyr, dusk to dawn,
Begged like a hooker all night long,
Tempted the Devil with my song,
And got what I wanted all along.

But I…
I would if I could,
I would wish it away,
Wish it away,
Wish it all away,
Wanna wish it all away.

No prize that could hold, sway,
Or justify my kneeling away my center…

So if I could I’d wish it all away,
If I thought tomorrow would take you away,
You’re my peace of mind, my all, my center [Saturn],
Just trying to hold on one more day.

Damn my eyes!
Damn my eyes!

Dim my eyes if they should compromise a full-grown want and need, divine need, then I might as well be gone.


Shine on forever,
Shine on benevolent Sun,
Shine down upon the broken,
Shine until the two become one.

Shine on forever,
Shine on benevolent Sun,
Shine down upon the sinners,
Shine until the two become one.

Divided and withering away,
Divided and withering away,
Shine down upon the many,
Light our ways, benevolent Sun.

Breathe [Pray] in union,
Breathe [Pray] in union,
Breathe [Pray] in union,
Breathe [Pray] in union,
Breathe [Pray] in union,

So as one, survive another day in season,
Silence leech and save your poison, [Silence, legion says your prayers.]
Silence leech and stay out of my way. [Silence, legion stay out of my way.]

This is a good guess too, makes sense, though I don't think it would be "thee divine me" just "the divine me".

Still think I'm right though :D

"Damn my eyes

Damn my eyes

Damn my eyes

If they should compromise our fulcrum

want and need divide me

then i might as well be gone"

i'm positive that its, listen closely and it fts perfectly with the rest of the song.
A fulcrum is a pivot, think of a see-saw (is it teeter toter in US?) it all about balance, like yin and yang, one is nothing with out the other, together they achieve harmony and that is the only way they can exist.

If in the king's mountain view
Here from the wild dream come true

Feast like a sultan, I do
On treasures and flesh never few

But I, I would wish it all, away
If I thought I'd lose you just one day

The devil and his has me down
In love with the dark side I've found

Dabblin' all the way down
Up to my neck soon to drown

But you changed that all for me
Lifted me up, turned me round

So I, I, I, I, I would, I would, I would, I would wish this all away
Prayed like a martyr dusk to dawn
Beg like a hooker all night long
Shout to the devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along
But I
I would
If I could
I would
Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No pressure could hold sway
Or just a fine line
Kneeling away, my sinner
So if I could I'd wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow, they'd take you away
You're my piece of mind,
my own
my sin
I'm just trying to hold on
One more day
Damn my eyes
Damn my eyes
Well they should compromise
All hope from What you need divide me
Then I might as well be gone...

Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent sun
Shine down upon the broken
Shine on 'til the two become one
Shine on forever
Shine on benevolent sun
Shine down upon the severed
Shine on 'til the two become one
Divide and (im withering away?)wither away
Divide and (im withering away?)wither away
Shine down upon the many, light our way
Benevolent sun.
Breathe in union(this continues for a while)

So, as one, survive
Another day and season
Silently, just save your poison
Silently, just stay out of my way

Im about 90% certain that this is correct
damn my eyes might be dim my eyes, and there are a few parts like breathe in union that might be a combination of breathe in union twice or three times at the start and end with pray in union the last one or two times. hope this helps.
P.S. Tool kicks A**

Jshaney, if you read the last line on my post (:

And for god's sake, the second time he says JAMBI EYES, try with a headphone, or with the speaker close to you ear

He doesn't say Jambi eyes.

I've listened on headphones and YES I can see why you might be hearing that but it just makes NO SENSE to say "Jambi eyes", especially when "Jambi" is pronounced 'jham-bee'.

Actually, he might be saying "dim my eyes" on that second time rather than 'damn my eyes', seeing as it and the "dim my eyes if they should..." sound the same.

Right, so how does that line make sense then?

"Damn my eyes if they should compromise our fulcrum. Want and need divide me then i might as well be gone."

That is the only way you can form that as a sentence and it doesn't make sense.

My apologies Howard, I guess I was being a little over-sensitive in any case.....

NE ways, I was joking with my post "Jam I cry", but I am not trying to insult anyone who thinks that is Jambi that he says......

none of us no for sure, but whatever it is I'm sure may be a combo of what we have all heard and will probably make more sense then are hearing.

I think the main reason why I ruled out Jam-bye eyes is because the D sound could very easily be a J sound in reality, but I don't hear the B sound anywhere.....

Whatever is between the initial ___my eyes and might as well be gone is certainly tough to gather...."fulcrum??????I've read the def. and can see how it could be warped to fit, but I just don't hear the C sound "crum", and while I'm likely wrong, here and f sound from instead.....

Like I said before, this lyrics are always confusing me. Like, coachella was "pray in union", 10k days is "breathe in union".

I don't know what to think anymore, that's the reality x)

Side note:
I don't think it's "damn my eyes if they should compromise our fulcrum, want and need divide me, then i might as well be gone"

my only reasons for this is
1. I just don't personally feel that Maynard would ever compromise his fulcrum.
and
2. I dont see how if "want and need divide"s him that that makes sense as a reason to be gone.

One thought that crossed my mind, BUT I DOUBT...
is
damn my eyes if they should compromise or fall for/fold from
one to need to find me
then I'd might as well be God

better yet

Damn my eyes, damn my eyes
Dim my eyes if they should:
compromise a fool from wanting the divine need
Then I might as well be God

which would be interpreted to mean:
He does not want to see a scenario where (dim my eyes if)
someone has "compromised" their beliefs to no longer "want the divine need"
just because of something he has said/feels.
He thinks anyone would be a "fool" if they were influenced enough to change what they believe just because he disagrees with them(think for yourself).
Lastly, if he were to have enough power/influence to change your beliefs than he "might as well be" your god....
I don't think this is what he wants to see (dim maynards eyes if it happens) :)

Sort of like 10000 days, it seems he obviously disagrees with his moms religion, but respects her at the same time.....he's developed his own differant opinions based on what he thinks/experienced, not what his mom tells him.....and he likely thinks that people are better off to make decisions based on what they experience/think, not what he thinks or has experienced.

You’re my peace of mind, my all,
I said I’m just trying to hold on one more day.

I know it's a small correction, but I think instead of "I said" I think he says "My sentence". Good luck deciphering guys!

Good luck, keep up the good work guys/girls....Figure it all out so I can get it down before KC next week! PEEEEAAAAAce

I agree, this is how I hear it too.

listen on the second one, it's definitely different. You can distinctly hear the J sound.

However I'd say that the Jambi part is plural, Jambis. (while this may not make sense gramatically, it's tool's word, they can make up pluaralities as they see fit.)

This plural form of Jambi makes sense as then "two become one" Jambi as in the title.

it's not Jambi eyes, but simply Jambis with a breath accent in the middle of the "i" to maintain the rythm laid down by "damn my eyes"

He definantly says "Silence leech and save your poison. Silence Leech and stay out of my way.

I actually got tickets to see them in KC before the blood hungry scalpors, I'M BLOODY STOKED it'll be my first tool concert I've been a fan for about four years... See you guys there!

I love this idea right or wrong it is a great insight. Great job.

yeah. I definitely thought "Damn My Eyes" was what he sings. Although, the second time it sounds more like Jambi eyss or something foreign along those lines. Any Ideas as to when the lyrics will be released? or does no one know untill it happens?

I believe Maynard generally releases the lyrics/poems a week or two after the release of the CD. I could be wrong, of course.

carefreeonmorph[ine?], you might just want to check your quote real quick. If i remember correctly
and if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor, go home tonight and take all your albums and all your tapes and all your cd's and burn them, because you know what, the musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years... Real fucking high on drugs

thanks

Ha ha ha ha. Awesome.

it is "want and need divide me", cos he wants and needs the person who hes singing about, and because he is divided he might as well not exist.
later in the song it says about shining on the broken one, severed one, two become one and so on. divide and wither away. can u not see where i am coming from?

whats wrong with people, u don;t listen or think u just hear what u want to hear and most of the time its just rubbish, think about the song as a whole for once.

plus it doesnt need to form a perfect sentence, its a stanza in effect really. does all poetry consist of perfect sentences? no.
I can tell from you little signiture thing about grammar that u can only think about wors in this way, which is fine, but think about poetry and how it can be and is written