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I remember watching a documetary or something about it. But I don't remember much.
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The Rosetta Stone is what allowed us finally to understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. It's a stone - literally - with the same (partial) text inscribed in three different scripts. One of the three scripts was hieroglyphics, which up to that point we were unable to understand. Another of the scripts was Greek, which, of course, was perfectly readable. After about 30 years of study, researchers were eventually able to "decode" Egyptian hieroglyphics by comparing it to the Greek. (You should read up on how this was done and how hieroglyphics is read, it's fascinating.)
This is (one reason) why track titles of "Rosetta Stoned" and "Lost Keys" are interesting/suspicious/what-have-you. The Rosetta Stone is literally a lost key. (And, as someone else cleverly noted, it took about 10,000 days for researchers to decipher the hieroglyphics...) This is all meaningless conjecture, I'm sure, and the 10,000 days component is a massive stretch, but, as Blair would say, there it is.
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I remember watching a documetary or something about it. But I don't remember much.
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The Rosetta Stone is what allowed us finally to understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. It's a stone - literally - with the same (partial) text inscribed in three different scripts. One of the three scripts was hieroglyphics, which up to that point we were unable to understand. Another of the scripts was Greek, which, of course, was perfectly readable. After about 30 years of study, researchers were eventually able to "decode" Egyptian hieroglyphics by comparing it to the Greek. (You should read up on how this was done and how hieroglyphics is read, it's fascinating.)
This is (one reason) why track titles of "Rosetta Stoned" and "Lost Keys" are interesting/suspicious/what-have-you. The Rosetta Stone is literally a lost key. (And, as someone else cleverly noted, it took about 10,000 days for researchers to decipher the hieroglyphics...) This is all meaningless conjecture, I'm sure, and the 10,000 days component is a massive stretch, but, as Blair would say, there it is.
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The Rosetta Stone is what allowed us finally to understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. It's a stone - literally - with the same (partial) text inscribed in three different scripts. One of the three scripts was hieroglyphics, which up to that point we were unable to understand. Another of the scripts was Greek, which, of course, was perfectly readable. After about 30 years of study, researchers were eventually able to "decode" Egyptian hieroglyphics by comparing it to the Greek. (You should read up on how this was done and how hieroglyphics is read, it's fascinating.)
This is (one reason) why track titles of "Rosetta Stoned" and "Lost Keys" are interesting/suspicious/what-have-you. The Rosetta Stone is literally a lost key. (And, as someone else cleverly noted, it took about 10,000 days for researchers to decipher the hieroglyphics...) This is all meaningless conjecture, I'm sure, and the 10,000 days component is a massive stretch, but, as Blair would say, there it is.
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Thanks, I actually found a website that sums it up real quickly and concisely. I think I am going to study more about the translation and such. From what you have told me and the little bit I found out from just googling it, it sounds very interesting.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.
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The Rosetta Stone is what allowed us finally to understand Egyptian hieroglyphics. It's a stone - literally - with the same (partial) text inscribed in three different scripts. One of the three scripts was hieroglyphics, which up to that point we were unable to understand. Another of the scripts was Greek, which, of course, was perfectly readable. After about 30 years of study, researchers were eventually able to "decode" Egyptian hieroglyphics by comparing it to the Greek. (You should read up on how this was done and how hieroglyphics is read, it's fascinating.)
This is (one reason) why track titles of "Rosetta Stoned" and "Lost Keys" are interesting/suspicious/what-have-you. The Rosetta Stone is literally a lost key. (And, as someone else cleverly noted, it took about 10,000 days for researchers to decipher the hieroglyphics...) This is all meaningless conjecture, I'm sure, and the 10,000 days component is a massive stretch, but, as Blair would say, there it is.
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Thanks, I actually found a website that sums it up real quickly and concisely. I think I am going to study more about the translation and such. From what you have told me and the little bit I found out from just googling it, it sounds very interesting.
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03-07-2006, 01:05 PM
was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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The fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn"
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was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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03-07-2006, 01:08 PM
fuck, it would have nicely connected with post #250
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was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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Andy King's said track six sounded "Native American" (and "for no good reason"); I don't think there was any mention of "Egyptian". I don't recall what was said about "The Thorn".
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was it Andy King's review or the fake drum magazine review of "The Thorn" that said that the album sounded egyptian at times?
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Andy King's said track six sounded "Native American" (and "for no good reason"); I don't think there was any mention of "Egyptian". I don't recall what was said about "The Thorn".
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03-07-2006, 01:12 PM
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We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
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I know what it is..I was just wondering if this guy did. I could care less what the meaning of the song is right now. I am stating that is an actual object of historical 'importance' And I had no idea it is kept in the U.K I will be in Leeds in July, and could maybe go check it out, or anything else cool if you have any recommendations?
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.
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We don't need people theorizing about what the Rosetta Stone is. Go to the British Museum and see it for yourself. While you're there, make sure you see the Elgin Marbles, too.
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I know what it is..I was just wondering if this guy did. I could care less what the meaning of the song is right now. I am stating that is an actual object of historical 'importance' And I had no idea it is kept in the U.K I will be in Leeds in July, and could maybe go check it out, or anything else cool if you have any recommendations?
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I saw Carl Sagan talk about it on an old episode of "Cosmos" pretty interesting.
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Andy King's said track six sounded "Native American" (and "for no good reason"); I don't think there was any mention of "Egyptian". I don't recall what was said about "The Thorn".
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what exactly does "Native American" sound like? Did they/do they have their own form of music?
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Andy King's said track six sounded "Native American" (and "for no good reason"); I don't think there was any mention of "Egyptian". I don't recall what was said about "The Thorn".
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I have no idea what Andy King meant by that. In fact, I have no idea what to make of his review at all. As far as I know, Blair still hasn't commented on it, although I'm told that he mentioned several days ago that he'd be posting about it soon on Toolarmy. I've exchanged several emails with Andy about the review, which I promised I wouldn't post, and I must admit that he sounds sincere. However, I should also point out that his emails to me were peppered with plugs (for his website, for his radio show, for bands he's promoting . . . ), just like the moneyisevil/Andy King threads in this forum were.
That's a good question, though: Does anyone know what Native American music sounds like in general? Does it have a "general sound" at all?
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I have no idea what Andy King meant by that. In fact, I have no idea what to make of his review at all. As far as I know, Blair still hasn't commented on it, although I'm told that he mentioned several days ago that he'd be posting about it soon on Toolarmy. I've exchanged several emails with Andy about the review, which I promised I wouldn't post, and I must admit that he sounds sincere. However, I should also point out that his emails to me were peppered with plugs (for his website, for his radio show, for bands he's promoting . . . ), just like the moneyisevil/Andy King threads in this forum were.
That's a good question, though: Does anyone know what Native American music sounds like in general? Does it have a "general sound" at all?
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im not saying i wont listen to and probably love it... i just dont want to hear bush bashing or how bad the iraq war is...
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im not saying i wont listen to and probably love it... i just dont want to hear bush bashing or how bad the iraq war is...
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im not saying i wont listen to and probably love it... i just dont want to hear bush bashing or how bad the iraq war is...
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It won't be like that. It's not going to be something obvious like American Idiot. Maynard's lyrics can be interpreted many ways anyway.
And on a completely different topic, I don't think Aenima is a political album at all. Stinkfist makes a commentary about censorship, but to me atleast, most of the songs are much more personal.
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im not saying i wont listen to and probably love it... i just dont want to hear bush bashing or how bad the iraq war is...
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It won't be like that. It's not going to be something obvious like American Idiot. Maynard's lyrics can be interpreted many ways anyway.
And on a completely different topic, I don't think Aenima is a political album at all. Stinkfist makes a commentary about censorship, but to me atleast, most of the songs are much more personal.
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www.rosettastoned.com
Someone do that magic thing you do when you get us all the information about a website.
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as much as i dislike perpetuating the dismissal of the track titles and album title, none of the domain names are redirecting me to toolband when i type them in. if i remember properly, this is what would be happening if the titles were correct. Tool was supposed to buy all the domain names assocaiated with the new CD, right??
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www.rosettastoned.com
Someone do that magic thing you do when you get us all the information about a website.
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as much as i dislike perpetuating the dismissal of the track titles and album title, none of the domain names are redirecting me to toolband when i type them in. if i remember properly, this is what would be happening if the titles were correct. Tool was supposed to buy all the domain names assocaiated with the new CD, right??
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03-07-2006, 01:42 PM
well i maintain the titles and the album name are fake, though i stopped worrying about it yesterday, so...
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well i maintain the titles and the album name are fake, though i stopped worrying about it yesterday, so...
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as much as i dislike perpetuating the dismissal of the track titles and album title, none of the domain names are redirecting me to toolband when i type them in. if i remember properly, this is what would be happening if the titles were correct. Tool was supposed to buy all the domain names assocaiated with the new CD, right??
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This has already been discussed in this thread. Check a few pages back.
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as much as i dislike perpetuating the dismissal of the track titles and album title, none of the domain names are redirecting me to toolband when i type them in. if i remember properly, this is what would be happening if the titles were correct. Tool was supposed to buy all the domain names assocaiated with the new CD, right??
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I have no idea what Andy King meant by that. In fact, I have no idea what to make of his review at all. As far as I know, Blair still hasn't commented on it, although I'm told that he mentioned several days ago that he'd be posting about it soon on Toolarmy. I've exchanged several emails with Andy about the review, which I promised I wouldn't post, and I must admit that he sounds sincere. However, I should also point out that his emails to me were peppered with plugs (for his website, for his radio show, for bands he's promoting . . . ), just like the moneyisevil/Andy King threads in this forum were.
That's a good question, though: Does anyone know what Native American music sounds like in general? Does it have a "general sound" at all?
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Its probably just a short segue with some banging drums and shakers, maybe something similar to the music in the background of the crazy scene in Natural born killers when Mickey is wigging out and ends up shooting the leader of the Tribe.
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I have no idea what Andy King meant by that. In fact, I have no idea what to make of his review at all. As far as I know, Blair still hasn't commented on it, although I'm told that he mentioned several days ago that he'd be posting about it soon on Toolarmy. I've exchanged several emails with Andy about the review, which I promised I wouldn't post, and I must admit that he sounds sincere. However, I should also point out that his emails to me were peppered with plugs (for his website, for his radio show, for bands he's promoting . . . ), just like the moneyisevil/Andy King threads in this forum were.
That's a good question, though: Does anyone know what Native American music sounds like in general? Does it have a "general sound" at all?
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Its probably just a short segue with some banging drums and shakers, maybe something similar to the music in the background of the crazy scene in Natural born killers when Mickey is wigging out and ends up shooting the leader of the Tribe.
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The same special also uncovered that the Knights Templar was a fake organization.
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Re: according to rock sound magazine.
I saw on The Discovery Channel that the myth of the Holy Grail is equivalent to a novel, meaning that it was just a story made up to entertain.
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Isnt it the worst when you get way too rosetta stoned and you lose your keys?
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Isnt it the worst when you get way too rosetta stoned and you lose your keys?
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yea... native american music is pretty distinctive. Don't really know how I would describe it, though. That's why there's Google and Wikipedia, however. Research it for yourself.
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yea... native american music is pretty distinctive. Don't really know how I would describe it, though. That's why there's Google and Wikipedia, however. Research it for yourself.
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03-08-2006, 03:00 PM
I would describe modernly to music as to what some of the things and vocals styles ray did on the mayan factor stuff. And i know they may be a big band on this board but for those of you who dont know them the mayan factor is an excellent and very much its own genre band. http://www.myspace.com/themayanfactor listen to warflower
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I would describe modernly to music as to what some of the things and vocals styles ray did on the mayan factor stuff. And i know they may be a big band on this board but for those of you who dont know them the mayan factor is an excellent and very much its own genre band. http://www.myspace.com/themayanfactor listen to warflower
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03-08-2006, 03:02 PM
nevermind they took down warflower, listen to any of those 4 songs on their myspace page thoughl
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nevermind they took down warflower, listen to any of those 4 songs on their myspace page thoughl
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03-08-2006, 03:19 PM
me not like. not at all.
oh shit, guitar solo! cut it out.
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me not like. not at all.
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03-08-2006, 03:24 PM
Im sorry just thought some people might enjoy the band its better than 98% of the shit on american radio. But im psyched about yesterdays new mogwai release now thats exciting.
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Im sorry just thought some people might enjoy the band its better than 98% of the shit on american radio. But im psyched about yesterdays new mogwai release now thats exciting.
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03-08-2006, 07:48 PM
i totally called "lost keys"
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i totally called "lost keys"
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03-08-2006, 08:08 PM
haha, yeah, and i was only being half serious with the "i called it"
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haha, yeah, and i was only being half serious with the "i called it"
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