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Old 01-16-2012, 11:26 AM   #1121
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What is the merch like at this tour? New design tour shirts?
Not great, they did have a maroon baby doll for the ladies that was pretty dope.

Reno had a "event shirt" for $50 with the artwork from the poster.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:28 AM   #1122
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Boston will be my ninth show. I was lucky enough to see them open with Third Eye on the last night of the '02 tour in Long Beach. It was as epic as I could have ever hoped for.

I was really hoping for one or two songs I've never heard, or not in a long time (Hooker, Ticks, Intension, The Pot would all fit the bill) but like most of the rest of you, I've learned to take what I can get from this band (Christ, I don't think they've updated the Tool Army page since I paid for my membership, kind of pissed about no fanclub presale for this since they are still used as a selling point for TA.)

Sorry, didn't mean to go on a rant. Regardless, I am PUMPED for Boston!
Trust me you are preaching to the choir about Tool army.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:31 AM   #1123
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Not great, they did have a maroon baby doll for the ladies that was pretty dope.

Reno had a "event shirt" for $50 with the artwork from the poster.

Yeah...I was disappointed with the Puscifer merch also for their tour.
I'll probably get an event specific poster for both shows (if there are).
I proimised myself I wouldn't look at the setlists, but couldn't help myself.
Ticks and Leeches! I can't wait. let's hope my two shows aren't the 2 they decide to replace that with Vicarious.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:15 PM   #1124
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when has tool's merch every not been over priced or a big disappointment
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Hey... have either of these shows actually had seats on the floor or is it infact GA/SRO?
Tucson arena sold seats off the seating chart with chairs on the floor so i bought 2nd row seats (at face value- don't worry)... but i WANT seats, ill end up trying to trade if it isn't a seated floor.
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Hey... have either of these shows actually had seats on the floor or is it infact GA/SRO?
Tucson arena sold seats off the seating chart with chairs on the floor so i bought 2nd row seats (at face value- don't worry)... but i WANT seats, ill end up trying to trade if it isn't a seated floor.
Don't know about Vegas, but Reno had actual seats on the floor.
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thank you guys! had to do my homework before dealing with strangers with a head full... CANT WAIT FOR TOMORROW!
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Re: 2012 Tour Setlist Discussion

this will be my 7th time seeing TOOL, so far this tour the setlist has been exact same first 3 shows, I am really pumped to hear Ticks & Leeches, but last couple times I saw them they played Stinkfist, The Pot, Forty Six & 2, Jambi, Schism, Lateralus, Aenema...... not much of a change.

awesome to add in Ticks, and Hooker, however I would like to see more older off Undertow and damn I would shit my pants if I heard anything from Opiate.... but I know, not gonna happen... Just wish they would change it up over the tour and not the exact same every show, maybe change a couple songs every night, I mean, do they not get tired of playing exact same night after night in same order???

Anyways, I'll be pumped and excited to see them anytime, not complaining about what they play, just wishing, LOL.....

I got to see them play FLOOD last tour, and now Ticks & Leeches.... so I'm pretty stoked!
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:19 AM   #1130
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He's just altered it a bit from what I've heard. I think he did something similar in 2007. I watched a boot (I'm weak, I know) from Vegas or Reno and he still does the "It will end no other way" bit, so I wouldn't worry.
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ok please forgive me, for i am noob. how can i find pics of the 2012 tour t-shirts?
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am i to understand that maynard is not singing the last stanza of pushit?
It sounded correct to me in Reno.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:54 PM   #1133
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I think he's left part of it out, at least in Reno, but he still belts out the very, very end. I think he left out "staring down the hole again... terrified of what may come" but picks it back up with "remember I'll always love you.." and finishes from there. Not sure if it's a stylistic/lyric choice or just trying to save his voice, or what.
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We are Super Duper Wuper excited about this show! See you in To lead O.
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it seems like the setlist is dictated less by what Maynard is physically able to sing and more what songs he's able to emotionally give a shit about. Aside from Jambi and Pushit, all the songs on the setlist are a presentation of his worldview, not a reflection on his experiences. Stinkfist, The Pot, Aenema, 46&2, Intension, T&L, Lateralus, and even Schism to an extent are all pretty devoid of personal experience and seem more to be some social spiritual remark.

I guess we'll really never see H. or Jimmy again or most of the stuff from Undertow. Think about it, even the tracks they used to play from Undertow were Intolerance, Flood and occasionally Sober. Not exactly super emotional and all of which are still applicable to the way Maynard sees the world.
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I assembled this album. I'll add the rest as the tour progresses.

http://imgur.com/a/lc4XM
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it seems like the setlist is dictated less by what Maynard is physically able to sing and more what songs he's able to emotionally give a shit about. Aside from Jambi and Pushit, all the songs on the setlist are a presentation of his worldview, not a reflection on his experiences. Stinkfist, The Pot, Aenema, 46&2, Intension, T&L, Lateralus, and even Schism to an extent are all pretty devoid of personal experience and seem more to be some social spiritual remark.

I guess we'll really never see H. or Jimmy again or most of the stuff from Undertow. Think about it, even the tracks they used to play from Undertow were Intolerance, Flood and occasionally Sober. Not exactly super emotional and all of which are still applicable to the way Maynard sees the world.
I would argue that Schism and Stinkfist have at least some personal overtones.
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I said schism 'to an extent'. Stinkfist might have at the time of its writing but its a pretty easy song to recontextualize. I've always seen it as a comment about insatiability and it never seemed to be about a relationship to me. You could make the case though.
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I assembled this album. I'll add the rest as the tour progresses.

http://imgur.com/a/lc4XM
Where did you get the Dallas posters at?
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Where did you get the Dallas posters at?
Go to the official band site www.toolband.com to see both nights tour posters for Dallas . Its cool they hook together to make one big poster. And this is Adam's artwork .

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Go to the official band site www.toolband.com to see both nights tour posters for Dallas . Its cool they hook together to make one big poster. And this is Adam's artwork .
Yep.

Fairly hi-res, with the 'Artwork by...' removed, in case anyone wants a wallpaper.

http://i.imgur.com/nBqcB.jpg
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it seems like the setlist is dictated less by what Maynard is physically able to sing and more what songs he's able to emotionally give a shit about. Aside from Jambi and Pushit, all the songs on the setlist are a presentation of his worldview, not a reflection on his experiences. Stinkfist, The Pot, Aenema, 46&2, Intension, T&L, Lateralus, and even Schism to an extent are all pretty devoid of personal experience and seem more to be some social spiritual remark.

I guess we'll really never see H. or Jimmy again or most of the stuff from Undertow. Think about it, even the tracks they used to play from Undertow were Intolerance, Flood and occasionally Sober. Not exactly super emotional and all of which are still applicable to the way Maynard sees the world.
I think this is a really good observation. "Swamp Song" is another one off of Undertow that would qualify.

But then there's "Pushit," arguably as personal as it gets.
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I think this is a really good observation. "Swamp Song" is another one off of Undertow that would qualify.

But then there's "Pushit," arguably as personal as it gets.
Right, Pushit's inclusion is a mystery. Swamp Song has been played as recently as 2007 though, remember? So that fits the model. Maybe he's recontextualized Pushit, or maybe it really is still relevant. A lot of Puscifer's output has to do with a scorned lover. Even as recently as Puscifer's newest album there's Toma which is a big 'fuck you' to some ex.
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I always took Stinkfist as being more about addiction rather than a relationship or something. Sexual addiction specifically, but like all their great songs, you could lay that over any situation where you can't get enough of something.
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I always took Stinkfist as being more about addiction rather than a relationship or something. Sexual addiction specifically, but like all their great songs, you could lay that over any situation where you can't get enough of something.
Using the metaphor of "fisting" as someone reaching inside another person.
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i don't give a shit if its to "hard" emotionally for him to play these songs.....when you charge 80 dollars a pop everything in your catalog should be open for discussion
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i don't give a shit if its to "hard" emotionally for him to play these songs.....when you charge 80 dollars a pop everything in your catalog should be open for discussion
discussion, fine. but don't think your $80 implies anyone has to cater to your whim.
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i don't give a shit if its to "hard" emotionally for him to play these songs.....when you charge 80 dollars a pop everything in your catalog should be open for discussion

Thats the great thing about Maynard. He doesnt give a shit what you think.
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eh ill pay the 80 bucks and enjoy what is on...can't complain to much...i just think they should play more then 80-90 min when the price is so high
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It's 2012, get used to it. One day you'll tell your grandkids that you used to pay less than $20 for any show. Today, big arenas + big bands = $100 for a good seat.
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It's 2012, get used to it. One day you'll tell your grandkids that you used to pay less than $20 for any show. Today, big arenas + big bands = $100 for a good seat.
Thats fine but play ar least 100 mins
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:28 PM   #1155
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Re: 2012 Tour Setlist Discussion

How long are these current sets?
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:48 PM   #1156
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Re: 2012 Tour Setlist Discussion

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How long are these current sets?
Album wise the set list songs total about an hour. Throw in the extensions and intermission and it is about 90 minutes...
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Re: 2012 Tour Setlist Discussion

damn, that is short.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:14 PM   #1158
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Reno show was about 100 mins, including the intermission. Although I would always like to see longer shows, I don't think 90 mins is a rip off at all. MOST bands play for 90 mins for their headline set. I have seen hundreds of shows, and only a handful have headliners play longer than 90 mins. There are lots of full Tool shows on youtube from the Aenima Tour that were 90 mins, and what I would give to see a show from that era! They are getting older, and if playing 90 min shows is what it takes to keep them going, then I think it's just the way the cookie crumbles.
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:43 AM   #1159
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:33 AM   #1160
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Reno show was about 100 mins, including the intermission. Although I would always like to see longer shows, I don't think 90 mins is a rip off at all. MOST bands play for 90 mins for their headline set. I have seen hundreds of shows, and only a handful have headliners play longer than 90 mins. There are lots of full Tool shows on youtube from the Aenima Tour that were 90 mins, and what I would give to see a show from that era! They are getting older, and if playing 90 min shows is what it takes to keep them going, then I think it's just the way the cookie crumbles.
Yeah, Rush and Springsteen do longer shows but most acts are in the 90-110 minute shows. I know outdoor venues have regulations on how late the concerts can go.
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