This was just about the total lack of grounding alot of our theories hold. Its like when you are a child, you think your opinions are worthy and that you are just, when really children live in a world with minimum grounding into reality.
We are just big children who might confrim each other into fallacy for eternity. This confirmation justifies ourselves and perpetuates this chain for so long. When is the last time you held some evidence in your hand.
This was just an idea drifting in the infinity of thought, it has no groundings :).
i have a lot of faith in those books and bones. Gravity is a theory but it works every time.
gravity isn't a theory. gravity is an effect. what causes that effect is the theory.
and while we're talking about gravity, I might as well spew some things I saw on the discovery channel about gravity.
Einsteins theory of General Relativity suggests that gravity is caused by a bulge in the fabric of [time? space? whatever] from large objects. Think of this [time, space, whatever] as a piece of paper. when a planet, in relation to the paper a marble or something, is on the paper, the paper bows and anything sitting on the paper flows inward toward the marble.
I'm not real sure thats even part of the General Relativity thing (which probably has more to do with time travel by exceeding the speed of light), but its an interesting theory
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?"
I like to just call it searching, not researching. researching should be referred to searching for things that are already known (such as doing a research paper in highschool). hence the "RE" (read: do over) in research.
My point remains the same. I think the OP was refering to objective truths and axioms or more appropriately the lack of objective truth.
even so, gravity may not necessarily work *exactly* how we expect that it does, because we don't fully understand it. so even though gravity satill works, there may be aspects we aren't even aware of.
even so, gravity may not necessarily work *exactly* how we expect that it does, because we don't fully understand it. so even though gravity satill works, there may be aspects we aren't even aware of.
who knows, maybe gravity causes cancer? heh
Hence my reference to a lack of objective truths. Furthermore, who knows, maybe it doesn't cause cancer and works exactly as thought.
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I once heard a physics teacher say that you could prove objective truth and disprove moral relativism with one notion:
The speed of light in a vacuum is always constant.
I once heard a physics teacher say that you could prove objective truth and disprove moral relativism with one notion:
The speed of light in a vacuum is always constant.
i agree one hundred percent
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Hence my reference to a lack of objective truths. Furthermore, who knows, maybe it doesn't cause cancer and works exactly as thought.
not likely. at least not if you consider how wrong man was hundreds of years ago, and consider that hundreds of years from now we'll likely discover the same thing relative to today.
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I once heard a physics teacher say that you could prove objective truth and disprove moral relativism with one notion:
The speed of light in a vacuum is always constant.
I don't get it....
and I especially don't understand how you can measure the speed of light.
Another thing that boggles my mind: if the gravity of a black hole is so great that light can't escape, then why do we see the light abruptly stop at the edge of the event horizon instead of fading away? If we see the light swirling around the outside of the black hole,then surely it is because the gravity gets stronger as you get closer to it, so less light should escape the closer it gets....and cause a fading effect...
I'm not even certain what astrophysics means. you can learn quite a bit just with the internet and a few educational TV channels (discovery, history, travel, national geographic, etc) :-)
not likely. at least not if you consider how wrong man was hundreds of years ago, and consider that hundreds of years from now we'll likely discover the same thing relative to today.
I don't get it....
and I especially don't understand how you can measure the speed of light.
Another thing that boggles my mind: if the gravity of a black hole is so great that light can't escape, then why do we see the light abruptly stop at the edge of the event horizon instead of fading away? If we see the light swirling around the outside of the black hole,then surely it is because the gravity gets stronger as you get closer to it, so less light should escape the closer it gets....and cause a fading effect...
Because once you get to a certain point the light cannot break out of orbit (orbit rings must be huge) and so cannot shoot into our eyes. but before the point of no return, light is scattered everywhere hence visible. also since there is no fade this shows that in the sub atomic (quantum) world mass and speed are extremely proportionate.
it's strange. i attend a youth group despite the fact that i am not a christian and well, i don't know why i attend it, but my point is that today they were talking about believing in god with all your heart, mind, and soul and when they asked if anyone believe in anything that deeply, i laughed to myself in my head and thought gravity. and then my next thought was about floating on the moon. gravity's strength is related to mass which means there isn't gravity in space...so in the grand scheme of things it doesn't work every time because it all kind of cancels out into nothing. that includes all of the black holes and planets and suns. and yet everything and nothing aren't even really opposites they're just different ideas that we've come to understand in material objects. and it's those ideas that we can grasp that get passed down in our books and our bones.
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gravity isn't a theory. gravity is an effect. what causes that effect is the theory.
and while we're talking about gravity, I might as well spew some things I saw on the discovery channel about gravity.
Einsteins theory of General Relativity suggests that gravity is caused by a bulge in the fabric of [time? space? whatever] from large objects. Think of this [time, space, whatever] as a piece of paper. when a planet, in relation to the paper a marble or something, is on the paper, the paper bows and anything sitting on the paper flows inward toward the marble.
I'm not real sure thats even part of the General Relativity thing (which probably has more to do with time travel by exceeding the speed of light), but its an interesting theory
Falling is an effect. What causes falling is gravitation, a state mutual attraction, the mechanics of which are posited in the theory of gravitation.
The General Theory of Relativity has more to do with reconciling evidence of an expanding-universe than with time travel.
"They fought and they clawed like savages. At the end none had found what they were looking for; and they simply returned to nothing, like they were before."
I am just now remembering how to see things like i did as a child: in a manner without any desires beyond sharing, commune, frequent rest and change.
If we all lived like that, we'd never build spaceships.
We need that childlike spirit, but often our survival depends on denying it.
In these quantuum times, the observer is known to affect the outcome. Let's try to keep that in mind as well?
