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Old 08-15-2019, 07:51 PM   #6281
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I'm hoping for seated theater shows, 5 nights at The Fox.

I know that's not a popular opinion
I would love to not have to stand in a pit with a bunch of early 20 something dudes again...

Seems like theaters might be too small for Tool though...
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Set list Prediction:


Ænema
46&2
Fear Inoculum
Pneuma
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Jambi
Stinkfist
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No way Tool stops playing Schism live (even though they should).

I like this but 46&2 and Jambi should be retired for a while as well. Ænema and Stinkfist can remain in the set forever.

With the entire catalogue opened up for streaming, I really hope that we will get more surprises like when Intolerance was added to the setlist. Eulogy, Swamp Song, You Lied or Pushit (Salival version) would be a nice addition to the tour.

I feel like we are going to get new tracks + Jambi, Schism, 46&2 and Stinkfist. So to me your setlist prediction is realistic but they will find a way to get Schism in there (likely instead of Ænema).
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Yah.

But would be cool if they replaced the 'hits' with other tracks. I mean, last tour was essentially one old song, the hits from Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 Days + 3 new songs.

Would be a blast if we got the new album and having songs like Flood, H., Lateralus and Right in Two as an addition.
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Yah.

But would be cool if they replaced the 'hits' with other tracks. I mean, last tour was essentially one old song, the hits from Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 Days + 3 new songs.

Would be a blast if we got the new album and having songs like Flood, H., Lateralus and Right in Two as an addition.
I can't agree with this more. I have seen all 4 of those songs live and they are amazing, much better than the retreads we get year in and year out.

I don't want to sound like a setlist complainer. Seeing tool in 2019/20 is a privilege no matter what is played I will love it.
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It would be awesome if they mixed up the setlist more.
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Yah.

But would be cool if they replaced the 'hits' with other tracks. I mean, last tour was essentially one old song, the hits from Aenima, Lateralus and 10,000 Days + 3 new songs.

Would be a blast if we got the new album and having songs like Flood, H., Lateralus and Right in Two as an addition.
Oh you silly dreamers.

Is this everyone's first rodeo with Tool setlists?

If they are busting out 90 mins of insanely complex music from the new album there is no way in hell they'll go back and do a major break out.

They'll need to cruise the rest of the way in the set just to survive the tour.
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No way Tool stops playing Schism live (even though they should).

I like this but 46&2 and Jambi should be retired for a while as well. Ænema and Stinkfist can remain in the set forever.

With the entire catalogue opened up for streaming, I really hope that we will get more surprises like when Intolerance was added to the setlist. Eulogy, Swamp Song, You Lied or Pushit (Salival version) would be a nice addition to the tour.

I feel like we are going to get new tracks + Jambi, Schism, 46&2 and Stinkfist. So to me your setlist prediction is realistic but they will find a way to get Schism in there (likely instead of Ænema).
Yep I was going for realistic not what I actually want.

I kept Aenima since it's a good opener and they seem to like it in that spot.
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I could have sworn the other ads showed it with a 5w speaker not 2 like Target shows..
I only ever saw 2W in ads/promos/descriptions on amazon, ale grey.com & Tool comms
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I was looking up cell phone speaker wattage and it seems most of them are 8 millawatts. Yes, not even 1 watt.....So a 5 watt speaker is actually going to be considerably better sounding than an internal phone speaker.
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I was looking up cell phone speaker wattage and it seems most of them are 8 millawatts. Yes, not even 1 watt.....So a 5 watt speaker is actually going to be considerably better sounding than an internal phone speaker.
Yes! A buddy of mine actually has a 5w amp and cranks
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Oh you silly dreamers.

Is this everyone's first rodeo with Tool setlists?

If they are busting out 90 mins of insanely complex music from the new album there is no way in hell they'll go back and do a major break out.

They'll need to cruise the rest of the way in the set just to survive the tour.
Are you saying you think they will be playing the new album in its entirety live? Cuz that seems like it will not happen.
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Oh you silly dreamers.

Is this everyone's first rodeo with Tool setlists?

If they are busting out 90 mins of insanely complex music from the new album there is no way in hell they'll go back and do a major break out.

They'll need to cruise the rest of the way in the set just to survive the tour.
If one cannot dream, what is left?

During 10,000 days tour they played Lateralus as a regular.
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Are you saying you think they will be playing the new album in its entirety live? Cuz that seems like it will not happen.
Yes, the full songs. Without the segues. CC Trip being the pee break.

If anything they may rotate a new song or 2 but I fully expect it all (or almost all) to be played.
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Just double checked and it is listed as a 2w speaker, I must have been tripping when I thought I saw 5w. Rats
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If one cannot dream, what is left?

During 10,000 days tour they played Lateralus as a regular.
I just don't want you to be too disappointed. ;)


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Just double checked and it is listed as a 2w speaker, I must have been tripping when I thought I saw 5w. Rats
Oh yeah. It is 2 watts. Not 5.

Still enough to provide the necessary ambiance
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I just don't want you to be too disappointed. ;)


I'm probably the elder statesman round these parts so I like to look after you youngsters
Are you that old?
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I just don't want you to be too disappointed. ;)


I'm probably the elder statesman round these parts so I like to look after you youngsters
a 2009er an elderstatesman...
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Note the 2 in my name had to do a hard reset in 2009, but I'm OGT from the first E.P.

Roughly the same age as Adam
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Anyway...

With all the new songs I hope they break out, I don't expect any "not played in a long time cuts"
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Set list discussions... Ah, how I missed them! Also nice to see the energy ramping up here. This has always been a good forum.

Tool has usually been good about representing at least one song from each full length release during a given setlist. And lately they've even included Part Of Me off Opiate.

I think they'll play various combinations of The Pot, Vicarious from 10k (sure wish that was Right In Two instead). Parabola, Schism from Lateralus. Stinkfist, Ænema from Ænema. And Intolerance, Sober from Undertow.

Like Embryo says, it's gonna be the path of least resistance so they can focus on the new stuff. I am totally fine with it.

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Set list discussions... Ah, how I missed them! Also nice to see the energy ramping up here. This has always been a good forum.

Tool has usually been good about representing at least one song from each full length release during a given setlist. And lately they've even included Part Of Me off Opiate.

I think they'll play various combinations of The Pot, Vicarious from 10k (sure wish that was Right In Two instead). Parabola, Schism from Lateralus. Stinkfist, Ænema from Ænema. And Intolerance, Sober from Undertow.

Like Embryo says, it's gonna be the path of least resistance so they can focus on the new stuff. I am totally fine with it.
Imagine the rehearsals for this tour, I believe the drums for FI were recorded over 2 years ago. They are going to have to learn the the new material all over again. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if the tour doesn't kick off until Nov/Dec and Aftershock is a "one off" with the same set list as the other festivals this year.
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... but with fear Inoculum in the setlist. That's a given.
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Imagine the rehearsals for this tour, I believe the drums for FI were recorded over 2 years ago. They are going to have to learn the the new material all over again. That's why I wouldn't be surprised if the tour doesn't kick off until Nov/Dec and Aftershock is a "one off" with the same set list as the other festivals this year.
Interesting theory and makes perfect sense. I am with ya on the festivals thing but I actually like the recent setlist well enough to consider Aftershock, especially if no more dates till late this year early next. Aftershock is ok. A little dusty. And the stage layout does not quite work. But I had fun the one time I was there.

Btw, one thing I have learned after 40 shows or so is not to underestimate the band's tech skills. Last time I saw them in Sacto they sound-checked with Eulogy with Maynard and tackled it full roar. It sounded amazing for a song they had not done in years (I think they only recent performance of it was during a show just after Cornell died). Adam tends to be a bit sloppy when he's not rehearsed, but I have utmost faith in Justin's and Danny's ability to do any song in their catalog at the drop of a hat.

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Definitely. Which makes Aftershock even more appealing.
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See, I suspect they recorded FI and probably a bunch of other songs way more recently than than they'd want to admit, and it's all going to be fresh for upcoming shows. They're probably finally getting the hang of some of them.
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Aftershock is sold out on Sunday. Still not sure how I'll get in but its sooo close to where I live, it's hard to imagine missing it..

PLUS My pals Fu Manchu are also playing that day.
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My Birthday is in late October. I'd love for a PNW show around that time!!

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Imagine, if all the guest users made accounts and then started researching Fear Inoculum with us, we would probably know half of the secret meanings by now.
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My Birthday is in late October. I'd love for a PNW show around that time!!

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Bigfoot IS an alien.

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"Yeah Tool is fucking amazing. But there’s a big chunk of their fan base that think they’ve become thought provoking geniuses just from listening to them."
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:04 AM   #6313
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Imagine, if all the guest users made accounts and then started researching Fear Inoculum with us, we would probably know half of the secret meanings by now.
what secrets are you alluding to? I already know jimmy may be their best song:

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What is the consensus setlist for TOOLFi tour?

Will it be New album+Schism,Sober,Stinkfist?
More of a mix, less new album?
Lateralus did not have all songs premiered at first show, iirc.

What do you think, toolies?
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Oh you silly dreamers.

Is this everyone's first rodeo with Tool setlists?

If they are busting out 90 mins of insanely complex music from the new album there is no way in hell they'll go back and do a major break out.

They'll need to cruise the rest of the way in the set just to survive the tour.
I tend to agree with this line of thinking. But if you were to choose one anomaly for the night you go to see them, which song do you want to be present for?
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I tend to agree with this line of thinking. But if you were to choose one anomaly for the night you go to see them, which song do you want to be present for?
4 degrees

But I've been lucky enough to see almost every song performed live (if they've played it, I believe I've seen it with a few exceptions)
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:37 AM   #6317
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I tend to agree with this line of thinking. But if you were to choose one anomaly for the night you go to see them, which song do you want to be present for?
I know it's unoriginal and it's only a cover, but No Quarter. I've only seen them live once though so I may not have a dog in the fight
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Re: General Tool Discussion

For me it will always be Jimmy. I know they won't do it. But then I never thought I'd see Ticks performed live either.
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Yeah, seeing tick&Leeches live and now realizing they only played it 25 times in concert is pretty neat. (According setlist.fm).

From Aenima I would really like to hear jimmy as well. Best track after Aenema on that record.
From Lateralus the only song I haven't heard live is the Patient.
Heard all from 10,000 Days except full length Intension.
From Undertow I would love Undertow.
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Trilling.
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