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Old 04-20-2006, 11:52 PM   #81
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Re: Lyrics

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It's "petty"
Sounds to me like "who are you to wave your many fingers at me"
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Pretty sure he's referring to "kangaroo court"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court
im from aus, and was thinkin he was jsut referrin to australia in general, our leader is a little brown nose after george dubyas love, so maybe a reference there perchance?

just goin out on a whim..
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Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Elbows deep in muddy waters
Great! Now all we need is "Shoulder deep in muddy waters" and it's final! ;)
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I thought it was black halo

sounds fitting to me
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Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Elbows deep in muddy waters



i hear eyeballs deep in muddy waters
YOUR balls deep in muddy waters

i think the rest is very very very good(you just never know with maynard)

i hear MY balls deep in muddy waters
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Kettle
^^black kettle

"What Black Kettle may have trusted were his own traditions. As a Peace Chief following pipe tradition, he would have been taught the four central tenets of faith, truth, humility and respect. Black Kettle is remembered as much for how he lived as how he died."



if the song is about lawyers and the court system[see kangaroo court: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_court]

then this would make sense.
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Re: Lyrics

Some thoughts:

"That's like the pot calling the kettle black" is an american saying regarding someone being a hypocrite.

The song is not about the war in Iraq.

It is more a diatribe against the courts/lawyers/police for trumped up charges in a marijuana case where the cops, lawyers and/or judges are known to also smoke a little reefer. The last line of the song tells me the arresting officer is the one hitting the bong. (at least on the surface - needs more listens to go deeper to be sure just how many people/bands/celebrities/institutions this song is really telling to go fuck themselves...)

Along those lines:

the "Rob the grave to snow the cradle" line makes sense because a "Snow Job" is when you set someone up.

"High eye" is saying the person has a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

"Fatty fingers" is inferring that the person waving the finger has also held his fair share of blunts.

With "Liar, lawyer..." he's saying that one is a mirror image of the other. As in - they're the same thing.

A lot of of people have suggested "out of your hair," but that doesn't rhyme with "raise the dead" now does it?

No one should have to be told the stuff about "muddy waters" refers to bullshit. If that's not clear to you I'd suggest checking out a reading comprehension class or two.

Now... all that said, here's my take (with big thanks to the guy who said he heard "lemon juice" because that makes sense with the inference that the indigo tears are fake tears.):

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Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been out your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead

Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around

You must have been high
You must have been high
You must have been

Foot in mouth and head up asshole
What ya talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy

You must have been so high
You must have been so high

Steal, borrrow -- reefer save your shady inference
Kangaroo done hung no juror with the innocent

Now you're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye

When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been high, high
You must have been high, high

Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Fuckin' hypocrite

Liar, lawyer -- mirror show me
What's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your high eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been

So who are you to wave your finger?
Who are you to wave your fatty fingers at me?
You must have been out your mind

Weeping shades of indigo
Shed without a reason
Weeping shades of indigo

Liar, lawyer
Mirror for you what's the difference
Kangaroo be stoned
He's guilty -- ask the government

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye
EYE

Now when you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been high, high, high, high
Eyeballs deep in bloody waters
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters

Ganja police you must have been out your mind

_____________

That should be 99.9% right. There can be discrepancies on things like "asshole" or "ass, so..." We'll never know unless the man types them up for us.

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Re: Lyrics

I love this song, but I HATE how he says "out your head"


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"out OF your head," Maynard!!
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Re: Lyrics

i like "outchyo"

its more sassy, i like sassy maynard
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Re: Lyrics

Quote:
Originally Posted by OG-Whoop
Some thoughts:

"That's like the pot calling the kettle black" is an american saying regarding someone being a hypocrite.

The song is not about the war in Iraq.

It is more a diatribe against the courts/lawyers/police for trumped up charges in a marijuana case where the cops, lawyers and/or judges are known to also smoke a little reefer. The last line of the song tells me the arresting officer is the one hitting the bong. (at least on the surface - needs more listens to go deeper to be sure just how many people/bands/celebrities/institutions this song is really telling to go fuck themselves...)

Along those lines:

the "Rob the grave to snow the cradle" line makes sense because a "Snow Job" is when you set someone up.

"High eye" is saying the person has a "holier-than-thou" attitude.

"Fatty fingers" is inferring that the person waving the finger has also held his fair share of blunts.

With "Liar, lawyer..." he's saying that one is a mirror image of the other. As in - they're the same thing.

A lot of of people have suggested "out of your hair," but that doesn't rhyme with "raise the dead" now does it?

No one should have to be told the stuff about "muddy waters" refers to bullshit. If that's not clear to you I'd suggest checking out a reading comprehension class or two.

Now... all that said, here's my take (with big thanks to the guy who said he heard "lemon juice" because that makes sense with the inference that the indigo tears are fake tears.):

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Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been out your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead

Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around

You must have been high
You must have been high
You must have been

Foot in mouth and head up asshole
What ya talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy

You must have been so high
You must have been so high

Steal, borrrow -- reefer save your shady inference
Kangaroo done hung no juror with the innocent

Now you're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye

When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been high, high
You must have been high, high

Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Fuckin' hypocrite

Liar, lawyer -- mirror show me
What's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your high eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been

So who are you to wave your finger?
Who are you to wave your fatty fingers at me?
You must have been out your mind

Weeping shades of indigo
Shed without a reason
Weeping shades of indigo

Liar, lawyer
Mirror for you what's the difference
Kangaroo be stoned
He's guilty -- ask the government

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye
EYE

Now when you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been high, high, high, high
Eyeballs deep in bloody waters
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters

Ganja police you must have been out your mind

_____________

That should be 99.9% right. There can be discrepancies on things like "asshole" or "ass, so..." We'll never know unless the man types them up for us.

ryan
The first half of your post is very well-stated and accurate...but I don't think your interpretation of the lyrics is anywhere near "99.9%" accurate.

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Re: Lyrics

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Kangaroo?????
The first time this comes up, it's

Quote:
Kangaroo'ed and hung the jury
Later, it comes up again and is

Quote:
Kangaroo'ed among the guilty
finally, it is used a third time
Quote:
Kangaroo'ed and stoned the guilty
it's a reference to a Kangaroo Court
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edit: just saw someone got to fixing it before me. good work.
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Originally Posted by megadan
I love this song, but I HATE how he says "out your head"


...


"out OF your head," Maynard!!

The more I hear this song, the more I hear IN this song.

Not only is it a condemnation of hypocrisy in the legal system or the hypocrisy of the whole war on drugs, it's also a condemnation of America's "War on Terror" and can tie into a lot of current U.S. policy. Maynard very delicately weaves a dense tapestry of hate here, and I'm sure there's even more to it than I can see now.

Something that struck me when I first heard the intro, however, slipped to the back of my mind but has come back to my attention with some of the other posts here.

The song starts out with just Maynard - and yeah, he sounds funny, like he's sped up or has lots of effects, but that's only taking it at face value like a lot of folks posting here are doing.

I don't think there are any real "effects" on the vocal there other than the backwards echo. The vocal track actually seems to have been comped together from different takes -- lots of different takes. Every word sounds edited with bad splices, which is why the beginnings and ends of words are all fucked up.

This, coupled with Maynard's phrasing -- leaving the "g" of of words which end in "ing," slamming syllables together like "outchyer" instead of "out of your" -- all of that turns this song into a condemnation of the current trends in pop and rock music. He's condemning educated people who talk like street punks and assume a fake personality to sell records. He's saying to all of the bands out there to play it for real and don't fucking assemble it in Pro Tools. I feel he's directing this at the bands who autotune and manipulate every beat of every song in Pro Tools until it lines up perfectly along a grid - yet they claim to their fans that they just went in and recorded it live but anyone with a pair of ears can hear it's just not true.

I love this song. I love how much hate -- intelligent, well thought out hate -- is packed into just this one track. It completely blows me away.

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As for the accuracy of my transcription, I stand by what I posted. I was pretty accurate when I posted my transcription for "Message to Harry Manback" back in the day, and I don't even speak Italian. This one is much easier to make out.

I doubt they'll give us the lyrics in the CD but they're bound to come around in some official form sooner or later.

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Re: Lyrics

I also think that it is:
MIGHTY fingers
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I also think that it is:
MIGHTY fingers

u beat me to it. i meant to post this the other day but i forgot. its definately "mighty" fingers.
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This song is so sarcastic, and the lyrics are intentionally ridiculously written. I LOVE IT; this song kicks about as much ass as any Tool song ever (though there are certainly more epic masterpieces in their past catalogue).
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u beat me to it. i meant to post this the other day but i forgot. its definately "mighty" fingers.
i totally hear fatty. and i like that much better
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u beat me to it. i meant to post this the other day but i forgot. its definately "mighty" fingers.
I listened to "The Pot" on repeat for about an hour this morning, and it kept bugging me :)
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Meh, I still think it's 'many' fingers... indicating several people pointing fingers or one person pointing more than one.
Here is *my* final version with minor changes to the above version.
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Who are you to wave your finger?
You must have been out your head
Eye hole deep in muddy waters
You practically raised the dead

Rob the grave to snow the cradle
Then burn the evidence down
Soapbox house of cards and glass so
Don't go tossin' your stones around

You must have been high
You must have been high
You must have been

Foot in mouth and head up ass
so what ya talkin' 'bout?
Difficult to dance 'round this one
'til you pull it out, boy

You must have been so high
You must have been so high

Steal, borrrow reefer save your shady inference
Kangaroo done hung the jury with the innocent

Now you're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye

When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been high, high
You must have been high, high

Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Fuckin' hypocrite

Liar, lawyer -- mirror show me
What's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your high eye
When you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been

So who are you to wave your finger?
Who are you to wave your many fingers at me?
You must have been out your mind

Weeping shades of indigo
Shed without a reason
Weeping shades of indigo

Liar, lawyer
Mirror for you what's the difference
Kangaroo be stoned
He's guilty -- ask the government

NOW
You're weeping shades of chosen indigo
Got lemon juice up in your eye
EYE

Now when you pissed all over my black kettle
You musta been high, high, high, high
Eyeballs deep in bloody waters
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters

Ganja police you must have been out your mind
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The lyrics "muddy waters" makes me think of Hunter S. Thompson every time I hear it.

"Order some golf shoes. Otherwise, we'll never get out of this place alive. It's impossible to walk in this muck...."

"PLEASE tell me about the fucking golf shoes!!!!!!"
-'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' by HST

Does anyone else think about that scene when you hear those lyrics??
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The sassy Maynard bothers me as well.
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"Got lemon juice up in your eye" >> "But it might just have been your eye" ??
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It's..
You must have been out of your hair

Because if it's not then maynard makes his d's sound like r's therefore he needs some help with pro-noun-see-ation. And maynard doesn't always rhyme. He doesn't rhyme a lot of the time. But it doesn't have to rhyme...
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If you pronounce pronunciation "pro-noun-see-ation," YOU need some help with pronunciation.
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the shape of the mouth when making "r" and "d" sounds is very similar.. and although maynard has an incredible range, this is right near the top, which any singer can tell you sometimes requires some weird maxillofacial contortions to acheive with good timbre..
i just don't think the line is "out your hair.." it does sound similar, but my reason won't let me accept that..

but that's not why i'm posting, i just wanted to point that out..

the real reason for my post, and i apologize if someone has made this correction already, is that i see this line transcribed mistakenly in the past 2 or 3 versions:
it's not "reefer save your" or anything to that effect.. it's "steal/borrow, reaper/savior, shady inference".. goes along with the "liar/lawyer...what's the difference" lines
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I HOLD DEEP IN MUDDY WATER
that's what it sounds like to me
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the real reason for my post, and i apologize if someone has made this correction already, is that i see this line transcribed mistakenly in the past 2 or 3 versions:
it's not "reefer save your" or anything to that effect.. it's "steal/borrow, reaper/savior, shady inference".. goes along with the "liar/lawyer...what's the difference" lines
Nice... I like it.
These words (on the whole album) are like those drawings of the old lady/young lady depending on how you look at it.
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[QUOTE ]

Liar, lawyer
Mirror for you what's the difference
Kangaroo be stoned
He's guilty -- ask the government

[/QUOTE]


I thought it sounded like...

Liar, Lawyer
Mirror, Voyeur
What's the difference
Kangaroo bestowed "He's guilty"
Ask the government

Have a listen, see what you think.
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There is absolutely no way it's "GANJA POLICE." That literlally makes no sense to the rest of the song.

How about "caught you up in lies?" That's what I'm hearing.
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Quote:
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this song is about the fabricated evidence used to start the war in iraq.

my evidence is the joni mitchell war protest song that starts it out
A Kangaroo Court is one which has no real authority and just comes up with decisions regardless of evidence or justice. A hung jury can't decide either way.

I haven't heard this song, but I figured Vicarious was about watching war on TV. so that fit a little...
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I thought it was black halo

sounds fitting to me
Thats what I thought too
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I thought it sounded like...

Liar, Lawyer
Mirror, Voyeur
What's the difference
Kangaroo bestowed "He's guilty"
Ask the government

Have a listen, see what you think.
It's definitely "bestowed", I actually came here to post it. Good find because I couldnt think what came after that and "He's guilty" makes a lot of sense. But I don't like voyeur in there. I always hear "for you". Probably trying to show that the lawyer is a hypocrite because he's incriminating someone for lying when there's a kangaroo court in place. So, I propose:

"Liar lawyer, mirror for you
What's the difference?
Kangaroo bestowed "He's guilty"
Ask the government"
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Although this song is absolutely top notch, it's a bit sad the last scream (after the Ganja Police-line) has been mixed too much behind the instruments.
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It's definitely "bestowed", I actually came here to post it. Good find because I couldnt think what came after that and "He's guilty" makes a lot of sense. But I don't like voyeur in there. I always hear "for you". Probably trying to show that the lawyer is a hypocrite because he's incriminating someone for lying when there's a kangaroo court in place. So, I propose:

"Liar lawyer, mirror for you
What's the difference?
Kangaroo bestowed "He's guilty"
Ask the government"
it's "be stoned" as was stated earlier..

kangaroo: be stoned, he's guilty.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:13 AM   #114
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Re: Lyrics

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The lyrics "muddy waters" makes me think of Hunter S. Thompson every time I hear it.

"Order some golf shoes. Otherwise, we'll never get out of this place alive. It's impossible to walk in this muck...."

"PLEASE tell me about the fucking golf shoes!!!!!!"
-'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' by HST

Does anyone else think about that scene when you hear those lyrics??

Reminds me of Floyd, the Trial. ....yep..stab me in the head, I said it.

Cept it's his Mom prosecuting.
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Old 04-23-2006, 07:08 AM   #115
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Re: Lyrics

its "your balls" the last time he says it................................................ .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................................................
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Old 04-23-2006, 09:07 AM   #116
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Re: Lyrics

Sorry for interrupting :)
Some about 5:16 I hear something like Came? your rubbish stony? africa moments.

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Old 04-23-2006, 09:17 AM   #117
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Re: Lyrics

that line has already been figured out for the most part, and you're pretty much entirely off the mark..

it's "Kangaroo" (as in kangaroo court) "be stoned, he's guilty" (as in stoning someone to death, casting the first stone, etc) and the last part sounds like "ask the government".. that's the best guess so far, anyway imo.
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Probably kangaroo, but last part of this line sounds for me like africa moment :p
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Sounds more like "based on".
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i'm not sure where, but i hear "hung the juror".

i'll find it when i'm done listening to it, which i am right now, just to listen to it.
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