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I too think it's here, although Hid from the kings mountain veiw makes sence too. But I am very sure at leat the second one is "here"
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I too think it's here, although Hid from the kings mountain veiw makes sence too. But I am very sure at leat the second one is "here"
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08-09-2006, 04:56 PM
It could be:
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Maybe, but it doesn't make much sence to me. I really do think it's Here for both
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Maybe, but it doesn't make much sence to me. I really do think it's Here for both
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08-09-2006, 09:04 PM
Guys... it's 'here'
From the king's mountain view he feasts like a sultan. He's not hidden from the king's mountain view. He's on top of it, like a king. He's saying he's there at the top of the world, but he'd wish it away.
And if it were 'hid' it'd actually be written 'hidden' - 'hid' would be really poor grammer, and I think we've established that unless for specific effect Maynard doesn't use English poorly.
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Guys... it's 'here'
From the king's mountain view he feasts like a sultan. He's not hidden from the king's mountain view. He's on top of it, like a king. He's saying he's there at the top of the world, but he'd wish it away.
And if it were 'hid' it'd actually be written 'hidden' - 'hid' would be really poor grammer, and I think we've established that unless for specific effect Maynard doesn't use English poorly.
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I think in the beginning he says "my treasures in flesh never few"
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08-12-2006, 07:04 PM
I know he doesnt sing it but I like to sing my own lyrics anyway to this part....
"shine on forever, shine on forever, then some"
I mean that would me kind of cool. Cause forever is forever but you can beat forever with "then some". Always remember if someone says forever about something, do them one better and say "forever and then some".
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I know he doesnt sing it but I like to sing my own lyrics anyway to this part....
"shine on forever, shine on forever, then some"
I mean that would me kind of cool. Cause forever is forever but you can beat forever with "then some". Always remember if someone says forever about something, do them one better and say "forever and then some".
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There is no "Which," in question here. Jambi is a word with one meaning. That meaning is referenced in and thus confirmed by the lyrics. And I never said it was obvious (Can anyone on this forum actually claim to have known that Jambi was an Indonesian province before it was a Tool song? Don't answer- I'm sure that some of you did- the vast majority of us didn't.). However; given that there has been a whole crap load of research going on into this for over two months now; and that nobody can find any justification for the "Jam-bye" pronunciation that doesn't rely solely upon speculation while simultaneously ignoring the Indonesian subplot; and that the lyrics make numerous references to the history of provincial Jambi; there just isn't a leg upon which your argument can stand. The name of the song is pronounced "Johm-bee," and Maynard never says it in the song- and I will champion that point tirelessly until somebody produces a substantive (not speculative) argument against it.
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There is no "Which," in question here. Jambi is a word with one meaning. That meaning is referenced in and thus confirmed by the lyrics. And I never said it was obvious (Can anyone on this forum actually claim to have known that Jambi was an Indonesian province before it was a Tool song? Don't answer- I'm sure that some of you did- the vast majority of us didn't.). However; given that there has been a whole crap load of research going on into this for over two months now; and that nobody can find any justification for the "Jam-bye" pronunciation that doesn't rely solely upon speculation while simultaneously ignoring the Indonesian subplot; and that the lyrics make numerous references to the history of provincial Jambi; there just isn't a leg upon which your argument can stand. The name of the song is pronounced "Johm-bee," and Maynard never says it in the song- and I will champion that point tirelessly until somebody produces a substantive (not speculative) argument against it.
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I posted this in the Jambi subject because I didn't see this area for lyric posting lol my bad :(
Anyways bam here it is:
Not Damn my eyes
Not Jambi
Jam my eyes!
Seems to make sense to me and to the rest of the lyrics :D
Along the lines of Slipknot's song, jam [my fingers into] my eyes and it distracts from the pain.
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I posted this in the Jambi subject because I didn't see this area for lyric posting lol my bad :(
Anyways bam here it is:
Not Damn my eyes
Not Jambi
Jam my eyes!
Seems to make sense to me and to the rest of the lyrics :D
Along the lines of Slipknot's song, jam [my fingers into] my eyes and it distracts from the pain.
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People already said that, see bottom thread in the "What's he saying?" forum. I think it is "damp my eyes", as in fill my eyes with tears.
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People already said that, see bottom thread in the "What's he saying?" forum. I think it is "damp my eyes", as in fill my eyes with tears.
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Something closer to the answer is contained in the latest toolband newsletter. Jambi is Finnish, though this does not solve the issue of whether or not it is said in the song, and if so, how it is pronounced. Any Finnish-speaking people able to elabourate on the pronounciation?
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in the finnish language you prounce "J's" with a ya sound.
So Jani would be pronounced like yanni. or tarja is pronounced as tariya.
where did you get it was finnish, i'll ask my finnish friend if he knows what that is or has heard/used it before.
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Something closer to the answer is contained in the latest toolband newsletter. Jambi is Finnish, though this does not solve the issue of whether or not it is said in the song, and if so, how it is pronounced. Any Finnish-speaking people able to elabourate on the pronounciation?
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in the finnish language you prounce "J's" with a ya sound.
So Jani would be pronounced like yanni. or tarja is pronounced as tariya.
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Why? Gramatically it would be correct: "Gigantic airships aim to damp forest fires."
Definition: slightly wet; "clothes damp with perspiration"; "a moist breeze"; "eyes moist with tears"
And I definately hear it in every single recording.
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Why? Gramatically it would be correct: "Gigantic airships aim to damp forest fires."
Definition: slightly wet; "clothes damp with perspiration"; "a moist breeze"; "eyes moist with tears"
And I definately hear it in every single recording.
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^ It's OK grammatically, but it would be a really weird and unusual thing to say in English. It's really not very likely (though better than "Jambi eyes" IMO!).
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^ It's OK grammatically, but it would be a really weird and unusual thing to say in English. It's really not very likely (though better than "Jambi eyes" IMO!).
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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So in the "Shine on" section, at the end we seem to be pretty sure about "Shine down upon the many, light our way . . ." Recent listens on my month-long roadtrip of the American West have me thinking that the last word is not "way," but "wave." Anybody else hear that?
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So in the "Shine on" section, at the end we seem to be pretty sure about "Shine down upon the many, light our way . . ." Recent listens on my month-long roadtrip of the American West have me thinking that the last word is not "way," but "wave." Anybody else hear that?
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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^Yes. Dim/Damn make sense gramatically and actually make sense in the song.
'Damp my eyes" ? So he's saying he should cry if his eyes compromise his fulcrum? That makes no damn sense. 'Dim' them, on the other hand, would be like saying gouge them out if they betray his intentions.
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^ "Fulcrum" makes perfect sense. A fulcrum is a pivot point on which something may be balanced. Think of the base of a playground see-saw. The song speaks of balancing his wants and needs, keeping his center, and maintaining this fulcrum. To "compromise his fulcrum" would be to compromise that which is enabling him to maintain a balance between his wants and needs.
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^ "Fulcrum" makes perfect sense. A fulcrum is a pivot point on which something may be balanced. Think of the base of a playground see-saw. The song speaks of balancing his wants and needs, keeping his center, and maintaining this fulcrum. To "compromise his fulcrum" would be to compromise that which is enabling him to maintain a balance between his wants and needs.
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^ "Fulcrum" makes perfect sense. A fulcrum is a pivot point on which something may be balanced. Think of the base of a playground see-saw. The song speaks of balancing his wants and needs, keeping his center, and maintaining this fulcrum. To "compromise his fulcrum" would be to compromise that which is enabling him to maintain a balance between his wants and needs.
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Thank you, Professor. I know what a fulcrum is. But the way this is phrased in all the most common lyrical estimates -- "if they should compromise a fulcrum" -- is just silly. It's awkward, it's needlessly vague ("a" fulcrum as opposed to "the fulcrum," and if the meaning is the way you think it is, I think he would use "the" or "my"), and it sounds pedantic, almost like he -- or perhaps his fans in their interpretations -- wants to show off his fourth-grade science vocabulary. I will openly admit that I could be and probably am wrong, and when the official lyrics are made public, the song will probably make more sense. But to say "Damn my eyes if they should compromise a fulcrum" makes "perfect sense" is . . . well, insane.
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^ "Fulcrum" makes perfect sense. A fulcrum is a pivot point on which something may be balanced. Think of the base of a playground see-saw. The song speaks of balancing his wants and needs, keeping his center, and maintaining this fulcrum. To "compromise his fulcrum" would be to compromise that which is enabling him to maintain a balance between his wants and needs.
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Thank you, Professor. I know what a fulcrum is. But the way this is phrased in all the most common lyrical estimates -- "if they should compromise a fulcrum" -- is just silly. It's awkward, it's needlessly vague ("a" fulcrum as opposed to "the fulcrum," and if the meaning is the way you think it is, I think he would use "the" or "my"), and it sounds pedantic, almost like he -- or perhaps his fans in their interpretations -- wants to show off his fourth-grade science vocabulary. I will openly admit that I could be and probably am wrong, and when the official lyrics are made public, the song will probably make more sense. But to say "Damn my eyes if they should compromise a fulcrum" makes "perfect sense" is . . . well, insane.
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Pretty sure I'm not insane, and I didn't mean to insult your intelligence by explaining the obvious. It just seemed safer to explain it fully than to make any assumptions about what you may or may not know (all I had to go on was that you didn't think it made sense).
I agree with your point on "a fulcrum" being awkward, but I think the lyric is "compromise our fulcrum" which I still believe makes perfect sense.
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Pretty sure I'm not insane, and I didn't mean to insult your intelligence by explaining the obvious. It just seemed safer to explain it fully than to make any assumptions about what you may or may not know (all I had to go on was that you didn't think it made sense).
I agree with your point on "a fulcrum" being awkward, but I think the lyric is "compromise our fulcrum" which I still believe makes perfect sense.
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Although I've been singing, "tempted the devil with my song," upon further listening I have come to the conclusion that it is most definately, "shout to the devil..." (thanks to those on this thread who mentioned this).
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Although I've been singing, "tempted the devil with my song," upon further listening I have come to the conclusion that it is most definately, "shout to the devil..." (thanks to those on this thread who mentioned this).
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Although I've been singing, "tempted the devil with my song," upon further listening I have come to the conclusion that it is most definately, "shout to the devil..." (thanks to those on this thread who mentioned this).
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Although I've been singing, "tempted the devil with my song," upon further listening I have come to the conclusion that it is most definately, "shout to the devil..." (thanks to those on this thread who mentioned this).
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08-30-2006, 02:45 PM
I just noticed the lyrics in the Lyrics section and this thread say "piece of mind." It's "peace of mind," unless you're making a pun, which I don't think Maynard is here.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
I just noticed the lyrics in the Lyrics section and this thread say "piece of mind." It's "peace of mind," unless you're making a pun, which I don't think Maynard is here.
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08-30-2006, 03:42 PM
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So in the "Shine on" section, at the end we seem to be pretty sure about "Shine down upon the many, light our way . . ." Recent listens on my month-long roadtrip of the American West have me thinking that the last word is not "way," but "wave." Anybody else hear that?
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
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So in the "Shine on" section, at the end we seem to be pretty sure about "Shine down upon the many, light our way . . ." Recent listens on my month-long roadtrip of the American West have me thinking that the last word is not "way," but "wave." Anybody else hear that?
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jambi was ruled by a sultan until it was overrun by the dutch right?
so 'here from the kings mountain view' here from meaning he doesn't have that view anymore. 'feast like a sultan'
anyone else think this song is about the immenent doom of america? invasion by the chinese maybe?
i think all the lyrics sung 'before' the 'solo' are from the point of view of someone who is about to, or simply afraid of losing power (i can think of someone)
and i think all the lyrics 'after' the 'solo' are sung from the perspective of someone looking to resolve some situation in a positive and forgiving way (i can think of someone else for that)
but the last lines "silence leech and save your poison/stay out of my way" ?
maynard only knows.
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08-30-2006, 03:49 PM
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
jambi was ruled by a sultan until it was overrun by the dutch right?
so 'here from the kings mountain view' here from meaning he doesn't have that view anymore. 'feast like a sultan'
anyone else think this song is about the immenent doom of america? invasion by the chinese maybe?
i think all the lyrics sung 'before' the 'solo' are from the point of view of someone who is about to, or simply afraid of losing power (i can think of someone)
and i think all the lyrics 'after' the 'solo' are sung from the perspective of someone looking to resolve some situation in a positive and forgiving way (i can think of someone else for that)
but the last lines "silence leech and save your poison/stay out of my way" ?
maynard only knows.
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After using an audio editor to slow the song down and strip the vocals from the rest of the music (so that nothing was left to intefere with the lyrics) I personally am convinced that the lyrics for this part are as follows:
Damn my eyes
Jam my eyes (there is a very clear 'j' sound if you listen closley enough but no 'b' sound so don't tell me he said Jambi eyes)
Dim my eyes (you can hear the different pronunciation clearly from the first line)
If they should compromise our fulcrum
Once your need divides me then I might as well be gone.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
After using an audio editor to slow the song down and strip the vocals from the rest of the music (so that nothing was left to intefere with the lyrics) I personally am convinced that the lyrics for this part are as follows:
Damn my eyes
Jam my eyes (there is a very clear 'j' sound if you listen closley enough but no 'b' sound so don't tell me he said Jambi eyes)
Dim my eyes (you can hear the different pronunciation clearly from the first line)
If they should compromise our fulcrum
Once your need divides me then I might as well be gone.
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09-01-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Pårȃđīǥm
After using an audio editor to slow the song down and strip the vocals from the rest of the music (so that nothing was left to intefere with the lyrics) I personally am convinced that the lyrics for this part are as follows:
Damn my eyes
Jam my eyes (there is a very clear 'j' sound if you listen closley enough but no 'b' sound so don't tell me he said Jambi eyes)
Dim my eyes (you can hear the different pronunciation clearly from the first line)
If they should compromise our fulcrum
Once your need divides me then I might as well be gone.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
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Originally Posted by Pårȃđīǥm
After using an audio editor to slow the song down and strip the vocals from the rest of the music (so that nothing was left to intefere with the lyrics) I personally am convinced that the lyrics for this part are as follows:
Damn my eyes
Jam my eyes (there is a very clear 'j' sound if you listen closley enough but no 'b' sound so don't tell me he said Jambi eyes)
Dim my eyes (you can hear the different pronunciation clearly from the first line)
If they should compromise our fulcrum
Once your need divides me then I might as well be gone.
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Can you link to an audio file?
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The biggest problem with the whole "damn/ jam" thing is that in english, both sounds are produced exactly the same way. Just say them out loud, and feel the differences. Also check out the word "education" How do you say it? EH JU KAY SHUN, not EH DU KAY SHUN. When yelling or otherwise emphasizing such words, it would be very easy to pronounce them either way, giving TOOL fans a whole bunch o' shite to waste bandwidth with.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
The biggest problem with the whole "damn/ jam" thing is that in english, both sounds are produced exactly the same way. Just say them out loud, and feel the differences. Also check out the word "education" How do you say it? EH JU KAY SHUN, not EH DU KAY SHUN. When yelling or otherwise emphasizing such words, it would be very easy to pronounce them either way, giving TOOL fans a whole bunch o' shite to waste bandwidth with.
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Oh yeah, since I'm being phonetic and all, See you Auntie!
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09-01-2006, 04:09 PM
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Oh yeah, since I'm being phonetic and all, See you Auntie!
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09-01-2006, 05:00 PM
Dim my eyes
Jam-bi eyes
Dim my eyes
period. From all the live audio I've heard, and listening to it 50000000000000+ times, pretty sure it's just that. Which I figured out about the 2nd time I played it.
it's more EEHHH than AAAAHHH so DIIIIIM not DAAAAAMN
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
Dim my eyes
Jam-bi eyes
Dim my eyes
period. From all the live audio I've heard, and listening to it 50000000000000+ times, pretty sure it's just that. Which I figured out about the 2nd time I played it.
it's more EEHHH than AAAAHHH so DIIIIIM not DAAAAAMN
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09-01-2006, 11:08 PM
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The biggest problem with the whole "damn/ jam" thing is that in english, both sounds are produced exactly the same way.
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Correct, but that's not a problem for me, that means it's something with D.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
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The biggest problem with the whole "damn/ jam" thing is that in english, both sounds are produced exactly the same way.
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09-03-2006, 01:35 PM
Considering Maynard changes what he sings from performance to performance depending on his mood, shouldn't the only one you use to determine 'the right' lyrics be the studio version?
I mean, so what if he clearly says "Shine on splendid pigfuckers" in a live version; that's not the 'official lyric' we're looking for. So live versions on questionable parts shouldn't be too heavily relied upon to determine what the album (and therefore, official) version has on it.
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
Considering Maynard changes what he sings from performance to performance depending on his mood, shouldn't the only one you use to determine 'the right' lyrics be the studio version?
I mean, so what if he clearly says "Shine on splendid pigfuckers" in a live version; that's not the 'official lyric' we're looking for. So live versions on questionable parts shouldn't be too heavily relied upon to determine what the album (and therefore, official) version has on it.
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09-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Anyone else hear "justify my milling away my center"?
Just checking.
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Anyone else hear "justify my milling away my center"?
Just checking.
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09-04-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlanketEffect
Considering Maynard changes what he sings from performance to performance depending on his mood, shouldn't the only one you use to determine 'the right' lyrics be the studio version?
I mean, so what if he clearly says "Shine on splendid pigfuckers" in a live version; that's not the 'official lyric' we're looking for. So live versions on questionable parts shouldn't be too heavily relied upon to determine what the album (and therefore, official) version has on it.
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I can't fucking believe how often I have to explain this fucking live thing. And I won't now. I just won't. Can I call my brain a reliable source saying that I know from a realiable source that the eyes thing is the same live as on tape?
Oh and Alex, I'm pretty much sure it's "giving". He sings it live exactly that way, but maybe some people just think he sings "giving" on the record and it's coincidence that what he sings live is giving. Yeah, probably it's just coincidencence. (Winks at Blanket)
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Re: 02 - Jambi lyrics
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Originally Posted by BlanketEffect
Considering Maynard changes what he sings from performance to performance depending on his mood, shouldn't the only one you use to determine 'the right' lyrics be the studio version?
I mean, so what if he clearly says "Shine on splendid pigfuckers" in a live version; that's not the 'official lyric' we're looking for. So live versions on questionable parts shouldn't be too heavily relied upon to determine what the album (and therefore, official) version has on it.
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I can't fucking believe how often I have to explain this fucking live thing. And I won't now. I just won't. Can I call my brain a reliable source saying that I know from a realiable source that the eyes thing is the same live as on tape?
Oh and Alex, I'm pretty much sure it's "giving". He sings it live exactly that way, but maybe some people just think he sings "giving" on the record and it's coincidence that what he sings live is giving. Yeah, probably it's just coincidencence. (Winks at Blanket)
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09-04-2006, 03:42 PM
^ This isn't to sound like a cock or anything. Seriously.
I don't understand a thing you were trying to say, Terry. Sorry.
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^ This isn't to sound like a cock or anything. Seriously.
I don't understand a thing you were trying to say, Terry. Sorry.
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