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04-19-2006, 03:17 PM
Revelation...Rosetta Stoned = Third Eye.
Someone mentioned this already on this forum, and I have posted this elsewhere, but there is more to it than just a few riffs.
Listen to the sound at 2:54, it's the same scratch sound Tool used before, if not on Third Eye. I'll have to go through the rest of AEnima or Lateralus to find it again.
Listen at 4:11, that guitar riff is basically pulled straight from 2:33 on Third Eye, though the guitar isn't as prevalent....
6:01-6:51, more well done remixes of the Third Eye riffs at 9:40 and 9:07 is another part of the remixed riff from Third Eye completey ripped and thrown in here.
Now, I'm off to find more parallels with the rest of the songs on the album and the past albums.
Basically, this song, and much of the album is entirely remixed from past work and this is blatant proof. I challenge the rest of you to find more instances where there is guitar work, bass work, or drum work, blatantly pulled from past albums and cite your proof.
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Decoding Rosetta Stoned
Revelation...Rosetta Stoned = Third Eye.
Someone mentioned this already on this forum, and I have posted this elsewhere, but there is more to it than just a few riffs.
Listen to the sound at 2:54, it's the same scratch sound Tool used before, if not on Third Eye. I'll have to go through the rest of AEnima or Lateralus to find it again.
Listen at 4:11, that guitar riff is basically pulled straight from 2:33 on Third Eye, though the guitar isn't as prevalent....
6:01-6:51, more well done remixes of the Third Eye riffs at 9:40 and 9:07 is another part of the remixed riff from Third Eye completey ripped and thrown in here.
Now, I'm off to find more parallels with the rest of the songs on the album and the past albums.
Basically, this song, and much of the album is entirely remixed from past work and this is blatant proof. I challenge the rest of you to find more instances where there is guitar work, bass work, or drum work, blatantly pulled from past albums and cite your proof.
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04-19-2006, 03:19 PM
the inclusion of old riffs into the new material is intentional. and yes, I agree that this song resembles third eye. but it is new and any similarities you find were planted by the band for that very purpose.
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Re: Decoding Rosetta Stoned
the inclusion of old riffs into the new material is intentional. and yes, I agree that this song resembles third eye. but it is new and any similarities you find were planted by the band for that very purpose.
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OMG YOU'VE JUST BLOWN MY MIND!
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the inclusion of old riffs into the new material is intentional. and yes, I agree that this song resembles third eye. but it is new and any similarities you find were planted by the band for that very purpose.
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the inclusion of old riffs into the new material is intentional. and yes, I agree that this song resembles third eye. but it is new and any similarities you find were planted by the band for that very purpose.
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04-19-2006, 03:25 PM
i hear a bit of triad from 1:13 to 1:30 and again at 7:19 to 8:13. anyone else agree?
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i hear a bit of triad from 1:13 to 1:30 and again at 7:19 to 8:13. anyone else agree?
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04-19-2006, 03:27 PM
in rosetta stoned, there is a part that sounds straight from h, the "without the skin here/beneath the storm" part.
edit: 6:02 to about 6:30 on rosetta stoned
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Re: Decoding Rosetta Stoned
in rosetta stoned, there is a part that sounds straight from h, the "without the skin here/beneath the storm" part.
edit: 6:02 to about 6:30 on rosetta stoned
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04-19-2006, 03:40 PM
i agree about the H part. do you hear the triad parts im talking about?
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i agree about the H part. do you hear the triad parts im talking about?
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04-19-2006, 03:42 PM
bluefire is right, the 6:01-6:51 part is not from Third Eye, but from H. Starts at 3:28 on H. Good find man.
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bluefire is right, the 6:01-6:51 part is not from Third Eye, but from H. Starts at 3:28 on H. Good find man.
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i agree about the H part. do you hear the triad parts im talking about?
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I hear the slow solo part from 7:19 sounding similar to whats on triad, but I don't get your first part.
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04-19-2006, 03:46 PM
What parts of Triad? I currently have my AEnima cd popped in, and if you could tell me exactly where to look on Triad, I could look into it easier.
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What parts of Triad? I currently have my AEnima cd popped in, and if you could tell me exactly where to look on Triad, I could look into it easier.
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04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
shit sorry 1:13-1:30 sounds like around :44 of reflection
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shit sorry 1:13-1:30 sounds like around :44 of reflection
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04-19-2006, 03:52 PM
if you compare the slow screeching guitar solos on 1:45 on triad to about 7:19 rosetta stoned, they aren't identical, but pretty fucking close.
edit: on triad, its the left channel, not the eagle sounding noise on the right channel
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if you compare the slow screeching guitar solos on 1:45 on triad to about 7:19 rosetta stoned, they aren't identical, but pretty fucking close.
edit: on triad, its the left channel, not the eagle sounding noise on the right channel
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shit sorry 1:13-1:30 sounds like around :44 of reflection
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yeah dude, it does
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shit sorry 1:13-1:30 sounds like around :44 of reflection
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04-19-2006, 03:56 PM
damn a lot of stuff in this song, i will keep looking for more.
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damn a lot of stuff in this song, i will keep looking for more.
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04-19-2006, 03:56 PM
if you wanna do lyrics
Faaip do Oaid = area 51 mentioned in rosetta stoned
Eon Blue Apocalyspe = X files theme mentioned in rosetta stoned
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if you wanna do lyrics
Faaip do Oaid = area 51 mentioned in rosetta stoned
Eon Blue Apocalyspe = X files theme mentioned in rosetta stoned
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04-19-2006, 05:54 PM
eon blue apocalypse: SAME notes used as the intro for intension, and the outro
mantra-lipan conjuring (thats two chanting songs that tool has made)
rosetta stoned-faiip de oiad could it be the same character? they sound the same... closely. dunno. same theme.
hooker with a peepee-same position thematically as the pot; similar lyrics
wings-already used during the live shows as inbetween song riffs
stinkfist-vicarious self explanatory
those are the ones ive seen so far. anyone else?
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Re: Decoding Rosetta Stoned
eon blue apocalypse: SAME notes used as the intro for intension, and the outro
mantra-lipan conjuring (thats two chanting songs that tool has made)
rosetta stoned-faiip de oiad could it be the same character? they sound the same... closely. dunno. same theme.
hooker with a peepee-same position thematically as the pot; similar lyrics
wings-already used during the live shows as inbetween song riffs
stinkfist-vicarious self explanatory
those are the ones ive seen so far. anyone else?
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I hear some H. riffs in Rosetta Stoned.
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I hear some H. riffs in Rosetta Stoned.
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The solo at around 7:50 sounds incredibly remeniscent of the Grudge solo. Actually, it sounds exactly like it. It seems like all they did was take the studio version of that solo and raise the pitch. The solo on this track does sound as if it's been fucked with quite a bit in the studio. Thoughts?
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The solo at around 7:50 sounds incredibly remeniscent of the Grudge solo. Actually, it sounds exactly like it. It seems like all they did was take the studio version of that solo and raise the pitch. The solo on this track does sound as if it's been fucked with quite a bit in the studio. Thoughts?
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04-19-2006, 07:54 PM
in Right in Two at 5:03 it sounds a lot like jimmy, also at 6:44 it sounds like the end of 46&2
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in Right in Two at 5:03 it sounds a lot like jimmy, also at 6:44 it sounds like the end of 46&2
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somehwere in the 6 minute range of this song it sounds like vicarious and again at 8:20
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somehwere in the 6 minute range of this song it sounds like vicarious and again at 8:20
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if tool werent so pissed at us i bet they would read this and laugh
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if tool werent so pissed at us i bet they would read this and laugh
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What parts of Triad? I currently have my AEnima cd popped in, and if you could tell me exactly where to look on Triad, I could look into it easier.
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Triad in Ænima... umh...
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What parts of Triad? I currently have my AEnima cd popped in, and if you could tell me exactly where to look on Triad, I could look into it easier.
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Triad in Ænima... umh...
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its on the lateralus part of aenima
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its on the lateralus part of aenima
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I know what cd it's on you fuck, but I already have the AEnima cd in there.
I'm not going to switch cd's just to listen back and forth to Triad and Rosetta Stoned just to hear the similarity.
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I know what cd it's on you fuck, but I already have the AEnima cd in there.
I'm not going to switch cd's just to listen back and forth to Triad and Rosetta Stoned just to hear the similarity.
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Okay, you've told us that there are similar riffs, now what does that mean? What does that mean? Here we are once again, where you, THE PEON MASSES, can shit on anything anyone does just because you can't do anything yourselves. HITLER, HAD THE RIGHT IDEA, HE WAS JUST AN UNDER ACHIEVER.
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Okay, you've told us that there are similar riffs, now what does that mean? What does that mean? Here we are once again, where you, THE PEON MASSES, can shit on anything anyone does just because you can't do anything yourselves. HITLER, HAD THE RIGHT IDEA, HE WAS JUST AN UNDER ACHIEVER.
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flashbacks!
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yes i concur
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i dont think any of these songs resemble previous songs. I mean, maybe they sound musically similar... But for me these songs are COMPLETELY different than anything theyve ever done.
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Re: Decoding Rosetta Stoned
i dont think any of these songs resemble previous songs. I mean, maybe they sound musically similar... But for me these songs are COMPLETELY different than anything theyve ever done.
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i dont think any of these songs resemble previous songs. I mean, maybe they sound musically similar... But for me these songs are COMPLETELY different than anything theyve ever done.
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Hey yea, I mean, you're right. I listened to all that shit I posted again and the stuff others have mentioned and I realized we all wasted our time.
Haha! Whoops! I'm a fucking idiot.
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i dont think any of these songs resemble previous songs. I mean, maybe they sound musically similar... But for me these songs are COMPLETELY different than anything theyve ever done.
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8:50 to 9:10 reminds me a lot of Lateralus.
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8:50 to 9:10 reminds me a lot of Lateralus.
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Don't be ridiculous. The H. similarity, for instance, is ABSOLUTELY undeniable. How can you possibly not see that? Go to about 6:03 on Rosetta Stoned. Listen for a bit. Then go listen to H. around 3:30 or so. Come back and tell us what you hear.
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Don't be ridiculous. The H. similarity, for instance, is ABSOLUTELY undeniable. How can you possibly not see that? Go to about 6:03 on Rosetta Stoned. Listen for a bit. Then go listen to H. around 3:30 or so. Come back and tell us what you hear. |
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I definitely hear some H. (honestly anyone who can't see the H. in there... bah). I also hear some reflection, and there are parts that really remind me of other osngs, The Grudge even. I really loved this song.
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Lets see, the sub-title for Lost Keys is "Blame Hofmann," and we all know that LK is the intro to RS... plus, Albert Hofmann is the inventor of LSD, and LSD causes flashbacks for many people (including myself, while listening to Ænima), so their inclusion of old riffs makes perfect sense.
They are simply telling us to "blame hofmann" (albert) for making LSD, and making them have flashbacks to old songs =P
To further explain my point, here's a quote from Nate-Dogg-21:
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Ok, back when LSD was first synthesized, they would conduct controlled experiments with LSD. They would administer it to people (whom they paid) and they would watch the effects of it... I think thats kind of what this is referencing to, theres a deeper meaning that i havent quite figured out, but i think that is what they are referring to. What is taking place here, is the patient (maynard) is freaking out and having a bad experience, and the doctors are trying to figure out whats going on.
From there this proceeds into rosetta stoned.... which is obviusly about someone who has an amazing experience on drugs(my interpretation) and they are in a realm between alive and dead. While on this drug experience, they are told they are "the chosen one."
This song is just a segue for rosetta stoned, its just used as a set up. Its like, you have the external view of the person tripping, and then whats going on inside their own little world. Pretty rad if you ask me... This is what i get from the song.
There's a book by Tom Wolfe called the Electric Kool-aid acid test which describes the era of when LSD was legal and first synthesized, id reccomend you read it. It explains LSD and why its illegal...
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Lets see, the sub-title for Lost Keys is "Blame Hofmann," and we all know that LK is the intro to RS... plus, Albert Hofmann is the inventor of LSD, and LSD causes flashbacks for many people (including myself, while listening to Ænima), so their inclusion of old riffs makes perfect sense.
They are simply telling us to "blame hofmann" (albert) for making LSD, and making them have flashbacks to old songs =P
To further explain my point, here's a quote from Nate-Dogg-21:
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Ok, back when LSD was first synthesized, they would conduct controlled experiments with LSD. They would administer it to people (whom they paid) and they would watch the effects of it... I think thats kind of what this is referencing to, theres a deeper meaning that i havent quite figured out, but i think that is what they are referring to. What is taking place here, is the patient (maynard) is freaking out and having a bad experience, and the doctors are trying to figure out whats going on.
From there this proceeds into rosetta stoned.... which is obviusly about someone who has an amazing experience on drugs(my interpretation) and they are in a realm between alive and dead. While on this drug experience, they are told they are "the chosen one."
This song is just a segue for rosetta stoned, its just used as a set up. Its like, you have the external view of the person tripping, and then whats going on inside their own little world. Pretty rad if you ask me... This is what i get from the song.
There's a book by Tom Wolfe called the Electric Kool-aid acid test which describes the era of when LSD was legal and first synthesized, id reccomend you read it. It explains LSD and why its illegal...
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Lets see, the sub-title for Lost Keys is "Blame Hofmann," and we all know that LK is the intro to RS... plus, Albert Hofmann is the inventor of LSD, and LSD causes flashbacks for many people (including myself, while listening to Ænima), so their inclusion of old riffs makes perfect sense.
They are simply telling us to "blame hofmann" (albert) for making LSD, and making them have flashbacks to old songs =P
To further explain my point, here's a quote from Nate-Dogg-21:
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my god thats so retarted its not funny. !!!!
your life is a flash back :)
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04-20-2006, 08:19 PM
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Lets see, the sub-title for Lost Keys is "Blame Hofmann," and we all know that LK is the intro to RS... plus, Albert Hofmann is the inventor of LSD, and LSD causes flashbacks for many people (including myself, while listening to Ænima), so their inclusion of old riffs makes perfect sense.
They are simply telling us to "blame hofmann" (albert) for making LSD, and making them have flashbacks to old songs =P
To further explain my point, here's a quote from Nate-Dogg-21:
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my god thats so retarted its not funny. !!!!
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04-20-2006, 08:28 PM
Excuse me? You obviously didn't see the blatant joke in the second statement.
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Re: Decoding Rosetta Stoned
Excuse me? You obviously didn't see the blatant joke in the second statement.
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lol sorry. yea. and i should know sarcasm doesn't work online. peace.
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lol sorry. yea. and i should know sarcasm doesn't work online. peace.
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04-20-2006, 08:36 PM
no problem, glad we cleared that up
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no problem, glad we cleared that up
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