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Ridiculous...
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/times...t/14542895.htm
Tool stalls with ‘Days’
Cool album art was the first thing that came to mind at the store when I saw this CD, and now, one word comes to mind when I think of Tool’s “10,000 Days” is mediocre.
It’s been five years since Tool’s “Aenima,” and I can sure wait another five for the next one.
I have never been a rabid Tool fan, nor have I ever watched any of their DVDs, or care to try and decipher their cryptic words, or care how “heavy” they are.
I do, however, think their outrageous time changes and virtuosic musicianship is certainly something to brag about.
But this CD is a shift to a new direction towards a more melodic sound which continues to build without ever reaching a musical climax.
The exception to that is the title track “10,000 Days (Wings PT2),” which is almost like Tool’s version of “Stairway To Heaven.”
(It’s a song about vocalist Maynard James Keenan’s mother, who died 27 years ago, or 10,000 days ago.)
With each track on the CD being an average of 7 minutes, listening to it sometimes feels like 10,000 days.
Bottom line is the CD sounds like a bar band doing a sub par Tool covers.
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Ridiculous...
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/times...t/14542895.htm
Tool stalls with ‘Days’
Cool album art was the first thing that came to mind at the store when I saw this CD, and now, one word comes to mind when I think of Tool’s “10,000 Days” is mediocre.
It’s been five years since Tool’s “Aenima,” and I can sure wait another five for the next one.
I have never been a rabid Tool fan, nor have I ever watched any of their DVDs, or care to try and decipher their cryptic words, or care how “heavy” they are.
I do, however, think their outrageous time changes and virtuosic musicianship is certainly something to brag about.
But this CD is a shift to a new direction towards a more melodic sound which continues to build without ever reaching a musical climax.
The exception to that is the title track “10,000 Days (Wings PT2),” which is almost like Tool’s version of “Stairway To Heaven.”
(It’s a song about vocalist Maynard James Keenan’s mother, who died 27 years ago, or 10,000 days ago.)
With each track on the CD being an average of 7 minutes, listening to it sometimes feels like 10,000 days.
Bottom line is the CD sounds like a bar band doing a sub par Tool covers.
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05-10-2006, 08:12 AM
It's funny that you're from alabama. :)
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It's funny that you're from alabama. :)
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05-10-2006, 08:12 AM
Has it really only been 5 years since Aenima?
If that's the case...the 2.5 years between Aenima and Lateralus, and the 2.5 years between Lateralus and 10,000 Days were awfully damn long.
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Has it really only been 5 years since Aenima?
If that's the case...the 2.5 years between Aenima and Lateralus, and the 2.5 years between Lateralus and 10,000 Days were awfully damn long.
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He just lost all credibility with the second sentence. And it seems like he compiled his "review" from snippets he gathered elsewhere.
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He just lost all credibility with the second sentence. And it seems like he compiled his "review" from snippets he gathered elsewhere.
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05-10-2006, 08:25 AM
Was this in a Newspaper and you're just linking us to the online edition, or is this article for the online edition only?
edit: nvm, PA paper, you're from Bama.
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Was this in a Newspaper and you're just linking us to the online edition, or is this article for the online edition only?
edit: nvm, PA paper, you're from Bama.
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What do you expect from a college drop-out who listens to FallOutBoy?
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Thank you.
Abuse shall commence.
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What do you expect from a college drop-out who listens to FallOutBoy?
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The exception to that is the title track “10,000 Days (Wings PT2),” which is almost like Tool’s version of “Stairway To Heaven.”
even though it doesnt it doesnt sound a bit like STH.
he's just a complete asshole who probably listens to 'radio friendly punkemoshit'
edit,
i was right, this is what he listens to
The Glory. Panic At The Disco. The Drama Club. Electric Candy Shop. Teenage Girls. Linkin Park. New Found Glory. Kitty Kat Dirt Nap. Taking Back Sunday. Day At The Fair.
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The exception to that is the title track “10,000 Days (Wings PT2),” which is almost like Tool’s version of “Stairway To Heaven.”
even though it doesnt it doesnt sound a bit like STH.
he's just a complete asshole who probably listens to 'radio friendly punkemoshit'
edit,
i was right, this is what he listens to
The Glory. Panic At The Disco. The Drama Club. Electric Candy Shop. Teenage Girls. Linkin Park. New Found Glory. Kitty Kat Dirt Nap. Taking Back Sunday. Day At The Fair.
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Fuckin' pencil neck geek. Check out his link from above (I can't be assed copying it).
I am almost depressed that there are actual human beings such as this loser. If this guy was a Tool fan, I wouldn't be.
Forget the Ganja Police. This guy's an OXY GEN THIEF!
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Fuckin' pencil neck geek. Check out his link from above (I can't be assed copying it).
I am almost depressed that there are actual human beings such as this loser. If this guy was a Tool fan, I wouldn't be.
Forget the Ganja Police. This guy's an OXY GEN THIEF!
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even though it doesnt it doesnt sound a bit like STH.
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05-10-2006, 09:08 AM
The fucking worst part about his "review," is that it reads as if he lifted 90% of it from these forums. Everything in that review has been said in these forums, except no one ever said Aenima was released 5 years ago.
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The fucking worst part about his "review," is that it reads as if he lifted 90% of it from these forums. Everything in that review has been said in these forums, except no one ever said Aenima was released 5 years ago.
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05-10-2006, 09:12 AM
Hey guys...his AIM screen name is "jerbear7281"
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Hey guys...his AIM screen name is "jerbear7281"
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The fucking worst part about his "review," is that it reads as if he lifted 90% of it from these forums. Everything in that review has been said in these forums, except no one ever said Aenima was released 5 years ago.
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Dat's what I said... no clue indeed
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The fucking worst part about his "review," is that it reads as if he lifted 90% of it from these forums. Everything in that review has been said in these forums, except no one ever said Aenima was released 5 years ago.
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Dat's what I said... no clue indeed
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Aenima was released 5 years ago? MJK's mom passed 27 years ago? Fallout boy is teh shit?? LOL.....i cant believe this kid....
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Aenima was released 5 years ago? MJK's mom passed 27 years ago? Fallout boy is teh shit?? LOL.....i cant believe this kid....
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I was going to email the newspaper suggesting that they fire him since he sucks so goddamn much at it, but then it occurred to me that they have a shitty editor too. I'm not thinking telling them about it would help much.
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I was going to email the newspaper suggesting that they fire him since he sucks so goddamn much at it, but then it occurred to me that they have a shitty editor too. I'm not thinking telling them about it would help much.
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Dear readers,
Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
Thank you,
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EDITOR'S RESPONSE
Dear readers,
Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
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Arrgghh, I went to his webpage and Milli Vanilli started playing.. I had to get the fuck out!
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Arrgghh, I went to his webpage and Milli Vanilli started playing.. I had to get the fuck out!
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Dear readers,
Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
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In your letter to the editor, did you also accuse the writer of lifting all of his ideas straight from this forum? Everything that's in that review was also written somewhere on these forums. Some of it may be stuff that everyone who did a little research would get (10,000 Days = 27 years), but some of it ("this generations Stairway to Heaven") seems somewhat random...until you realize that there's a popular thread going on in these forums that make that connection.
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Dear readers,
Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
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In your letter to the editor, did you also accuse the writer of lifting all of his ideas straight from this forum? Everything that's in that review was also written somewhere on these forums. Some of it may be stuff that everyone who did a little research would get (10,000 Days = 27 years), but some of it ("this generations Stairway to Heaven") seems somewhat random...until you realize that there's a popular thread going on in these forums that make that connection.
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Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
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Ha ha ha! Fire his emo ass!
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Dear readers,
Thank your for reading The Weekender, and thank you for bringing to our attention some factual errors in this week's review of the new Tool album.. Though our music reviewers are free to say what they feel regarding the quality of a CD, they are required to get the facts right about band and its history. I have forwarded your e-mails on to the writer, and I have told him this is not acceptable. We will be running a correction in next week's issue.
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Ha ha ha! Fire his emo ass!
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Here's to hoping this didn't get deleted before being opened.
Please read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic
Yea, I read your dipshitty little review in NEPA's fucking little "Timesleader.com" and whatever corresponding print paper that may or may not tie to. And guess what, lots of other people did to, and it's not because someone came across it, thought it was good, and spread the word.
It's because you completely lifted that entire article.
Here's an idea: you play bass guitar with your band, and continue to have a very limited taste in music, and leave the journalism work to real journalists.
Every idea in your review was lifted straight from the TDN forums at toolnavy.com. Well, except the idea that 1996 was five years ago. Here's an idea: if you're going to review a band's new cd and talk about past cds, and tell us when they came out, at least make a half-arsed effort to visit the band's website (toolband.com) and visit the discography page and check your fucking facts.
Here's to hoping you pulled that dick out of your mouth and actually read all of this.
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Wow, you love Tool. I'm sorry you are mad about whatever is in the paper.
-jeremy
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Date: May 10, 2006 10:36 AM
Here's to hoping this didn't get deleted before being opened.
Please read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic
Yea, I read your dipshitty little review in NEPA's fucking little "Timesleader.com" and whatever corresponding print paper that may or may not tie to. And guess what, lots of other people did to, and it's not because someone came across it, thought it was good, and spread the word.
It's because you completely lifted that entire article.
Here's an idea: you play bass guitar with your band, and continue to have a very limited taste in music, and leave the journalism work to real journalists.
Every idea in your review was lifted straight from the TDN forums at toolnavy.com. Well, except the idea that 1996 was five years ago. Here's an idea: if you're going to review a band's new cd and talk about past cds, and tell us when they came out, at least make a half-arsed effort to visit the band's website (toolband.com) and visit the discography page and check your fucking facts.
Here's to hoping you pulled that dick out of your mouth and actually read all of this.
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flat out pwnd by the editor.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...I FUCKING HATE EMO children.
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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I'm not going to criticize a review for the reviewer's opinion.
I AM going to criticize a review for the reviewer's lack of journalistic integrity, and in this review, that's more than just the getting the facts wrong. Even if he didn't lift any of his ideas from any where and coincidentally came up with a lot of the same comparisons that have been made here, this particular review is extremely lacking.
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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I'm not going to criticize a review for the reviewer's opinion.
I AM going to criticize a review for the reviewer's lack of journalistic integrity, and in this review, that's more than just the getting the facts wrong. Even if he didn't lift any of his ideas from any where and coincidentally came up with a lot of the same comparisons that have been made here, this particular review is extremely lacking.
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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Yes, but could you imagine a judge, let's say perhaps Simon Cowell try to critique Maynard and his singing abilities. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different genres of music. It'd be like a Metal reviewer doing a story on classical music?
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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Yes, but could you imagine a judge, let's say perhaps Simon Cowell try to critique Maynard and his singing abilities. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Two totally different genres of music. It'd be like a Metal reviewer doing a story on classical music?
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so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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His opinion is fine. But if he is going to publish it in a paper as well as inform readers about that which he is opining...he has to get his facts right. That is his job.
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Re: From the 'No Clue' Department
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Originally Posted by trip0r
so what if he got some facts wrong.. Does that mean his critique of the album is invalid? That tool album reviews can only come from a die heard tool fan? Ive noticed that every bad review has been picked apart and marginalized by this board. Unless the review says "The greatest fucking record ever!".. the guy is full of shit? I enjoy Tool's music as much as the next guy, but I personally feel this album fell short (as did a lot of reviewers.. and I'm sure a lot of the bandwagoners do too but cant admit to themsleves that tool made a mediocre album) but that doesnt make me any less a fan of the band. And it certainly doesnt mean I "don't get it"..
Doesnt do anything for me.. Plain and simple.. And no "deeper understandning" or "different perspective" is gonna change that.
Looking forward to Tool's next release.
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His opinion is fine. But if he is going to publish it in a paper as well as inform readers about that which he is opining...he has to get his facts right. That is his job.
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05-10-2006, 01:06 PM
At least learn about Tool before you write a review about them....you can have your opinion, but you can't state false facts. Research and try again...
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05-10-2006, 01:06 PM
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Re: From the 'No Clue' Department
At least learn about Tool before you write a review about them....you can have your opinion, but you can't state false facts. Research and try again...
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