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Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
When i think about it this way I understand how beautiful this song is.
Its so haunting
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10000 days in the fire, what it means
Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
When i think about it this way I understand how beautiful this song is.
Its so haunting
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04-19-2006, 06:42 PM
yes, there is another thread about this. wings for marie is about his mom whose name is judith marie.
edit: this song is an epic to me. like pushit and lateralus.
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
yes, there is another thread about this. wings for marie is about his mom whose name is judith marie.
edit: this song is an epic to me. like pushit and lateralus.
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09-13-2006, 07:26 AM
At this point in time, I don't know the exact details, dates n such, but maybe his mom was 'afflicted' for 10k days (app. 27yrs & 6 mo.). I guess I could look up how old MJK is and subtract 11 (possibly the age he was when mother first diagnosed) ....
Wada-yathink?
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
At this point in time, I don't know the exact details, dates n such, but maybe his mom was 'afflicted' for 10k days (app. 27yrs & 6 mo.). I guess I could look up how old MJK is and subtract 11 (possibly the age he was when mother first diagnosed) ....
Wada-yathink?
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09-13-2006, 12:22 PM
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At this point in time, I don't know the exact details, dates n such, but maybe his mom was 'afflicted' for 10k days (app. 27yrs & 6 mo.). I guess I could look up how old MJK is and subtract 11 (possibly the age he was when mother first diagnosed) ....
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Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
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At this point in time, I don't know the exact details, dates n such, but maybe his mom was 'afflicted' for 10k days (app. 27yrs & 6 mo.). I guess I could look up how old MJK is and subtract 11 (possibly the age he was when mother first diagnosed) ....
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Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.
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I thought this was obvious?
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I thought this was obvious?
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Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.
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Yes, her mother..
Maynard, the female vocalist for the blues band TOOL. With a vag and all.
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
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Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.
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09-13-2006, 06:09 PM
a friend had told me that she was in a coma for a period of time during her sickness, i don't know if there is any truth to that, i haven't really researched it or anything. But if so, being in a coma could symbolize being in the fire.
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a friend had told me that she was in a coma for a period of time during her sickness, i don't know if there is any truth to that, i haven't really researched it or anything. But if so, being in a coma could symbolize being in the fire.
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Fire is almost always used as symbolism for a purifying experience.
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Fire is almost always used as symbolism for a purifying experience.
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Fire could be the situation that Maynard's mother lived on the Wheel-Chair. But nevertheless I have an another vision of this verse. I think that can be generalized to all the people that had lived a bad life and then they're going home. Home as Heaven.
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Fire could be the situation that Maynard's mother lived on the Wheel-Chair. But nevertheless I have an another vision of this verse. I think that can be generalized to all the people that had lived a bad life and then they're going home. Home as Heaven.
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Yes, her mother..
Maynard, the female vocalist for the blues band TOOL. With a vag and all.
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Yes, her mother..
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Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
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umm... duh.
hasnt this already been discussed endlessly, along time ago... and pretty much confirmed as correct as well?
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umm... duh.
hasnt this already been discussed endlessly, along time ago... and pretty much confirmed as correct as well?
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Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
When i think about it this way I understand how beautiful this song is.
Its so haunting
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10000 days is tribulation you know the end of days disturbed named there cd 10000 fist and its all about the end of times. see maynard is john the Baptist of our time so bow down
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
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Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
When i think about it this way I understand how beautiful this song is.
Its so haunting
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10000 days is tribulation you know the end of days disturbed named there cd 10000 fist and its all about the end of times. see maynard is john the Baptist of our time so bow down
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a friend had told me that she was in a coma for a period of time during her sickness, i don't know if there is any truth to that, i haven't really researched it or anything. But if so, being in a coma could symbolize being in the fire.
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Does anyone know if Maynard's mother was paralyzed or paralyzed and in a coma?
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a friend had told me that she was in a coma for a period of time during her sickness, i don't know if there is any truth to that, i haven't really researched it or anything. But if so, being in a coma could symbolize being in the fire.
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All i can add is, where there's smoke there's fire!
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All i can add is, where there's smoke there's fire!
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Sorry, my computer just froze. I meant to add that i don't know about his mother, apparently she had a lot of faith in god and in Maynard. I have no idea about the rest.
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Sorry, my computer just froze. I meant to add that i don't know about his mother, apparently she had a lot of faith in god and in Maynard. I have no idea about the rest.
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LOL, no kiddin
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Yeah, this has been discussed so many times...
Maynards mother (Judith Marie) got paralysed with anuerisy (or something) when Maynard was 11 (hence Jimmy) and yes, she was a firm believer in God, and Maynard wasn't (hence Judith) and yes, she died roughly 10,000 days after this (hence 10,000 days and Wing for Marie)
Anything else i forgot?
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
Yeah, this has been discussed so many times...
Maynards mother (Judith Marie) got paralysed with anuerisy (or something) when Maynard was 11 (hence Jimmy) and yes, she was a firm believer in God, and Maynard wasn't (hence Judith) and yes, she died roughly 10,000 days after this (hence 10,000 days and Wing for Marie)
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lol yeh u forgot that its also bout how tool have been around for 10000days and this album is also about them and not just about maynard because he is nto the whole band only one member i think
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lol yeh u forgot that its also bout how tool have been around for 10000days and this album is also about them and not just about maynard because he is nto the whole band only one member i think
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oh, yeah i did forget something
Tool haven't been around for 10,000 days, cos otherwise Maynard would have been the 11 year old frontman for Tool
and sure, Maynard isn't the only band member, there's Danny Carey (drums), Justin Chancellor (bass) and Adam West (guitar), BUT he is the lyricist/vocalist so the songs are about things he percieves
And the album is not about Tool, its about what they think, see, hear, feel
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oh, yeah i did forget something
Tool haven't been around for 10,000 days, cos otherwise Maynard would have been the 11 year old frontman for Tool
and sure, Maynard isn't the only band member, there's Danny Carey (drums), Justin Chancellor (bass) and Adam West (guitar), BUT he is the lyricist/vocalist so the songs are about things he percieves
And the album is not about Tool, its about what they think, see, hear, feel
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oh snap. i got it though
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oh snap. i got it though
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You don't put hidden messages into your mum funeral song, thats just stink
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well, perhaps judith represented the unconditional, regardless of whether she was mother or Mother. it has been THE grandest gesture i've ever witnessed.
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well, perhaps judith represented the unconditional, regardless of whether she was mother or Mother. it has been THE grandest gesture i've ever witnessed.
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Yeah i'll say. To have two songs, by an incredible band, sung in her memory....
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Yeah i'll say. To have two songs, by an incredible band, sung in her memory....
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Yes, her mother..
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he/she did say in chicago '....and my vagina itches'
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Yes, her mother..
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he/she did say in chicago '....and my vagina itches'
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No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
That goes for guys with manginas.
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No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
That goes for guys with manginas.
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No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
That goes for guys with manginas.
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No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
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lol at people taking the op with any seriousness.
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Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.
*Loads shotgun* we'll be ready this time....
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Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.
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Don't forget to cock it.
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Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.
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If Styx's ass would EVER raise from hell it'll be burned to ashes by now; no worries :)
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Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.
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I don't know.........You can choke on ashes..
I won't be happy till that guy is reduced to tiny byte sized bits lol
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I don't know.........You can choke on ashes..
I won't be happy till that guy is reduced to tiny byte sized bits lol
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Lol i can't believe how long that took for someone to notice..... Do you people not watch family guy or something?
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This is my first post on this site. Yeah, as discussed, the song is about Judith's paralysis. I consider this to be the most emotional song off of the new record. I think that is the reason for its absense from 2009's set list. Maynard has dealt with and sort of healed, and now the song is in the past for him. He has processed it, and to sinply recycle it and sell it again would undermine what it really means to fans, and more inportantly, Maynard. Anyway, I'm rambling. *&$% the government.
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
This is my first post on this site. Yeah, as discussed, the song is about Judith's paralysis. I consider this to be the most emotional song off of the new record. I think that is the reason for its absense from 2009's set list. Maynard has dealt with and sort of healed, and now the song is in the past for him. He has processed it, and to sinply recycle it and sell it again would undermine what it really means to fans, and more inportantly, Maynard. Anyway, I'm rambling. *&$% the government.
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yeah, that would be the most likely reason for dumping it from the setlist.
However, i do think that it may return someday, for a commemoration tour/gig in her honour etc.
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yeah, that would be the most likely reason for dumping it from the setlist.
However, i do think that it may return someday, for a commemoration tour/gig in her honour etc.
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01-25-2010, 08:34 PM
10,000 days in the fire...a trial by fire while on earth..only she has the right to walk straight in past the gates...tell em /father/son/spirit she's come home..mean'n skip judgment day...cause thru his/maynards eyes her life was hell/she never had a life never took a life never told a lie played by his/gods rules..rising to the height of angels/halo's and shouldn't be judge again having already lived thru the trial once
01-25-2010, 08:34 PM
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Re: 10000 days in the fire, what it means
10,000 days in the fire...a trial by fire while on earth..only she has the right to walk straight in past the gates...tell em /father/son/spirit she's come home..mean'n skip judgment day...cause thru his/maynards eyes her life was hell/she never had a life never took a life never told a lie played by his/gods rules..rising to the height of angels/halo's and shouldn't be judge again having already lived thru the trial once
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