I haven't used Ticket Master in a few years, but would it be possible to open multiple accounts with 2 credit cards? Or do they track IP's or what? Couldn't we just open 2 browser windows and run a different account in each one when they go on sale?
Here’s what we know so far:
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.smu.edu/auxiliaryservices...arlinchart.xls
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
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Natalie Portman: I think you're on to something. I doubt they'll track IP adresses, especially since these tickets are going to be going so quickly. I say anyone who has multiple cards should set up multiple accounts. If you do this, write ("Number" Accounts) next to "Buying Online". Update the total at the bottom by however many more tickets you can possibly buy. Here's what I'm thinking:
John Doe= Buying Online (2 Accounts)
Needs: 2
Buying: 4
He has two accounts and will max out on each one. I'll try to set up another one and update the thread if it works.
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The venue or artist/event management will typically impose a ticket limit per customer, credit card or address in order to provide ticket access to as many fans as possible. Ticket limits vary depending on the type of event or the anticipated demand for tickets. Check the event information area of the purchase page for more information on ticket limits for your event. Please adhere to published ticket limits. If we determine that a ticket limit has been exceeded, we may cancel an order, or part of an order, without notice, and may even cancel a ticket that has already been delivered, rendering it null and void without notice.
I dont know what method they will use for this specific show.
NOTE: I'm need to edit my listing, I'm buying 4, not 2
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.smu.edu/auxiliaryservices...arlinchart.xls
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
Some rules for adding to this thread:
-Make sure you follow the format I’ve laid out. This will make it easier to read, and therefore easier for us to figure out where we stand.
- I know it doesn’t make a difference, but try to put your name in chronological order. This will not affect preference either way, but it’ll help maintain order.
lzep86= Buying Online and at Venue (Multiple online buyers)
Needs: 4
Buying: 2+ (Multiple Buyers)
TuralyonW3= Buying Online
Needs: 2-4
Buying: 4
zier= Buying Online
Needs: 1
Buying: 2
Slacker= Buying at TM
Needs: 1
Buying: 1 (not sure if I can make it so this 1 could be up for grabs)
All tickets will be sold for face value!!! If you attempt to make money off this, I hope whatever god you believe in gives you diarrhea.
Totals:
Need: 59
Buying: 78
Please update the totals above when you add to the thread. When totaling, use the max number of tickets you may need (i.e. my friend may or may not come, but if he does, I need 2). And only total how many you plan on buying for sure.
Remember, there are people with multiple buyers, and I only added up the number you see here, so there could be more, possibly many more, tickets bought.
Here’s what we know so far:
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.smu.edu/auxiliaryservices...arlinchart.xls
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
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I added you. For future reference everyone, you can copy, paste, and add yourself. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ADJUST THE TOTALS IF YOU ADD YOURSELF. I've got instructions at the bottom. Thanks
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NOTE: I'm need to edit my listing, I'm buying 4, not 2
I don't know if you saw what Futureal wrote, but he/she called ticketmaster and they said there will a two-ticket limit per person. Thats why I adjusted the numbers on anyone who was originally buying 4. Natalie Portman borught up a good point that we might be able to open up multiple accounts on Ticketmaster, but then futureal's posting about Ticketmaster's ability to revoke your tickets if they feel you're not allowing everyone a fair chance. Its risky setting up 2 accounts. I'd try to get a friend or family member to help before I set up two accounts. That way you can't be accused of cheating.
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Quick update: my history final is tuesday morning at 8, not monday at 8. Fuck! Meaning, I can't go because dallas is about 3.5 hours away and i need sleep before my final. Now I have to wait until 28/6...imma go cry some more.
In other words, I need to be taken off of the list.
Here’s what we know so far:
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.smu.edu/auxiliaryservices...arlinchart.xls
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
Some rules for adding to this thread:
-Make sure you follow the format laid out. This will make it easier to read, and therefore easier for us to figure out where we stand.
- It doesn’t make a difference, but try to put your name in chronological order. This
will not affect preference either way, but it’ll help maintain order.
lzep86= Buying Online and at Venue (Multiple online buyers)
Needs: 4
Buying: 2+ (Multiple Buyers)
TuralyonW3= Buying Online
Needs: 2-4
Buying: 2
zier= Buying Online
Needs: 1
Buying: 2
Slacker= Buying at TM
Needs: 1
Buying: 1 (not sure if I can make it so this 1 could be up for grabs)
twinheads= Buying online
Needs: 2
Buying: 2
Totals:
Buyers: 29
Need: 59
Buying: 76
Please update the totals above when you add to the thread. When totaling, use the max number of tickets you may need (i.e. my friend may or may not come, but if he does, I need 2). And only total how many you plan on buying for sure.
Remember, there are people with multiple buyers, and I only added up the number you see here, so there could be more, possibly many more, tickets bought.
All tickets will be sold for face value!!! If you attempt to make money off this, I hope whatever God you believe in gives you diarrhea.
Keep adding to this thread
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Hey guys, Futureal made a good point. If you see an updated list posted, and you had posted a list previous to that, make sure you go back and edit your old list down to a few characters or something. This way to thread doesn't scroll and the mods don't start deleting stuff. Thanks.
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I've seen a couple things said about this, but I want to make sure we're all on the same page as far as payment goes. Preferrably, we'll use PayPal. If you don't have a PayPal account, set one up ASAP as it takes a couple days to verify all the bank info. If you have to, you can meet up at the venue with cash. I don't think checks would be a good idea if you meet in person, since we've got no way of knowing whether the checks are good or not. And obviously credit cards are out of the question.
Here's another thing: How are we going to distribute once tickets are sold out? Post your ideas. I think we could start another list that just has your name, how many tickets you have FOR SALE (it won't matter how many you bought), and how you're planning on getting the money (paypal, cash). For example
lzep86= Paypal or cash
Has: 3
Like I said, similar to the old list, just very simple. Let me know if anyone has a better idea. I've never done this before, so I'm just pulling stuff out of my ass. I think the main thing is to keep organized.
One more thing: Do we know how we will determine who gets tickets? Say we end up with 40 tickets for sale and we need 50. Who gets those 40 and who doesn't? My first opinion is simply to do it in chronological order, starting with the earliest posters in this thread. That would make sense. I have a feeling people will start offering tickets to the highest bidder, but remember, the whole point of this forum is so that we don't have to pay 300 fucking dollars on eBay. Post your ideas and lets figure something out. Saturday's getting close. I'm so stoked, I've listened to Vicarious on a loop for the past two days.
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This 2 ticket limit makes me very pessimistic. It truly changes everything. Instead of 10 people getting one extra ticket each and 4 getting 3 extras each (with some in between), we now have 4 people getting one extra each and the rest getting nothing (with a few in between). I hope everyone has their plans set for Saturday. This is really a terrible situation for the people who needed more than 2. Like I said earlier, hopefully this will slow down the rate at which it sells out so more of us can get tickets. If anyone doesnt want to read back in the thread, there is a 2 ticket limit on this show according to 2 ticketmaster outlets in Texas.
Best case scenario, we will have some extra tickets to give to the people who needed more than 2. Worst, we dont have enough to cover the people who didnt get any and only needed one. Anyway, a lot of this organization and crap we have done up to this point is no longer necessary because of the ticket limit. Ideally, 5 or 6 wouldve been best. 4 was workable. 2 is virtually impossible.
I dont want anyone to give up on this, the scale is just so much smaller now that all formalities have to be effectively thrown out the window. We were right at the sweet spot between small scale barbarism and large scale bureaucratic ineffeciency. Oh well.
I doubt we will have enough extra tickets to be able to distribute them in an orderly fashion. People are going to be sending PMs and trying to bribe the extra tickets from others.
Either way, even if only one ticket goes into the hands of someone for face value who wouldnt have originally gotten it, none of our efforts here were wasted.
Anyway, I am going to repeatedly post the following for the next few couple days to make sure everyone sees it. I know not everyone likes to read back 3 pages of a thread:
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There is a 2 ticket limit
You cannot sit around and click refresh unlimited times, it will lock you out
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Edit: Izep, see post 94. That was the original plan.
Futureal is unfortunately right. It's going to be very difficult for us to get extras. As it says on the list, we have a need for 59, and people planning on getting up to 76. The bad thing is, there's absolutely no way to know how many everyone will actually end up with.
None the less: We should still keep this thread organized. It looks like we've pretty much slowed down as far as people adding themselves to the list, so we're probably close to the final total as far as how many everyone needs. I really think that our best bet is to get MULTIPLE ONLINE BUYERS, therefore everyone in this group will have a better chance of getting a ticket. There are 29 buyers as of now. If each person can get one more person to get online that morning, then we've got 58. We can boost our number of tickets exponentially by doing this. 58 buyers going after two tickets apeice could more easily get us over that number of 59. I don't know, I'm trying to stay hopeful. Thanks to futureal for the Ticketmaster note. I would've gotten my ass locked out in a heartbeat with the refresh button.
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Futureal is unfortunately right. It's going to be very difficult for us to get extras. As it says on the list, we have a need for 59, and people planning on getting up to 76. The bad thing is, there's absolutely no way to know how many everyone will actually end up with.
None the less: We should still keep this thread organized. It looks like we've pretty much slowed down as far as people adding themselves to the list, so we're probably close to the final total as far as how many everyone needs. I really think that our best bet is to get MULTIPLE ONLINE BUYERS, therefore everyone in this group will have a better chance of getting a ticket. There are 29 buyers as of now. If each person can get one more person to get online that morning, then we've got 58. We can boost our number of tickets exponentially by doing this. 58 buyers going after two tickets apeice could more easily get us over that number of 59. I don't know, I'm trying to stay hopeful. Thanks to futureal for the Ticketmaster note. I would've gotten my ass locked out in a heartbeat with the refresh button.
No kidding...I didnt know about the refresh thing until yesterday. That was my plan from day 1 too. Yes, getting multiple buyers will work but its not convenient anymore. Before, it was very convenient to just click the max and go through but now, I dont think a lot of people will want to go through the added trouble of multiple buyers. If a few people do it, it will help out quite a bit though.
There should probably be some organization to deciding who gets tickets. When people sign on to something like this, they do it with the belief that it will be done as fairly as possible. If we remove that and let the ticketholders distribute to whoever they want, there is no incentive for people to try as hard as they can to get whatever tickets they can and be honest about it. Then of course you could have a scalper sending out PMs behind everyones backs to everyone in this thread trying to get a ton of extra tickets.
No one should respond to PMs from people you dont know asking if you got extra tickets.
What I think we should do is have a tiered system. If we have enough tickets for each person to get 1, each person gets 1. Anything over that is distributed by lottery. If we have enough for each person to get 2 tickets, each person gets 2 (except the ones who only need 1) anything left over after that is distributed by lottery. So on and so on until we run out.
On Saturday afternoon, we should take an inventory and decide how many extra tickets we have IF we have them. Then, one of us will work out the distributions until we get to the tier where we need a lottery implementation. I think I have an idea on how this can work but ill type it out later.
Some people are going to try and fail. Others will try and succeed. Everyone needs to go into this trusting that everyone will get a fair shot because if not, the ones who succeed and get that magical confirmation screen just may not return here.
Trust and honesty are BIG issues with something like this. We must make sure that everything is as fair as it can possibly be or greed will take over. By joining this, we are all agreeing to look out for everyone else as long as everyone else also agrees to look out for us. This is critical. Lets prove to everyone why Tool fans are the best fans in the world and make this thing work.
Edit: please add your ideas to this too. I left some stuff out that might need to be discussed.
Great plan. Everybody please read the last paragraph if you can. Honesty is a big issue. The only way we can make this work as good as possible is if everyone stays orderly.
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I dont think we should do any form of first come first serve because that penalizes the people who have unavoidable conflicts on Saturday. If you get extra tickets, come in here and simply post how many. Then we have to distribute them fairly later
My proposal:
On saturday afternoon we will get a tally of everyones extras. People who didnt get tickets will post messages letting us know. If we have enough extras for each person who didnt get any to get at least 1, each person will get 1. If we have enough for 2, each will get 2. And then a lottery for eveything above the level where we dont have enough extras for each person that needs one.
The lottery can work by assiging each person a number between 1 and X depending on the order in which they posted to this thread (solely to make it easy to assign numbers, this has nothing to do with 'seniority'). Then, THREE PEOPLE not in the lottery will use the random number generator at
http://www.random.org/sform.html
to generate three different sequences of random numbers between 1 and X.
These three sequences will be compared, and the middle of the three values will be used to determine who gets the first extra ticket above the level where we cannot distribute evenly. For example, we will put the 3 sequences together and if the first row is:
4 6 2
Then person 4 on the list would get the first extra ticket since it is the middle number. In the case of a tie, the lower number gets it.
Convoluted? Maybe. Unneccessary? Maybe...I am a TA in a computer lab at a university on certain days so I have tons of time to sit around and worry about this crap and type ridiculously long posts in between failed login attempts and people needing help to print files...
IMO, first come first serve would cause all sorts of whining and bickering. I think a lottery based on 3 different random number sequences would work best because it would be impartial and fair no one would be able to argue favoritism and the ones who signed this thread way back in the beginning who cannot be here on Saturday to get the first post in wont get the shaft.
Thanks for the posts guys, If anyone has any concerns about this, go for it. I know there are a few (possible) problems with what I have written and a few points of contention that could probably be discussed from a different point of view. We still have some time to finalize things. It doesnt look like we are getting many new recruits today so maybe this thread will slow down and not swell up into some huge monster.
Part II to futureal's plan
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Was asked to edit my post, so here goes. I will as stated buy two tickets, if I am fortunate, and will give the extra one away here to someone. I will need one if I am shut out by Ticketmaster, if anyone has a rare extra.
Also, riding from Houston... can carpool if anyone is heading up as well. Thanks for the community efforts.
Everyone should thank Soberman in advance for offering to give away his other ticket for free if he gets it. That's totally badass. We need for everyone to have a good character like this guy if this is gonna work. You don't need to give your tickets away, but just show respect and we'll all be seeing the greatest concert of our lives.
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By the way, it might help if you bring up the official us time on www.time.gov to tell what the us time is exactly to the second. I did that with NIN and got tickets by clicking refresh with about 15 sec before the time, I don't know if it will help or not but try it cause your clock may be about 10-15 sec off which could be the difference between getting them or not. Good luck, hope to see true tool fans snag most of the tickets :)
By the way, it might help if you bring up the official us time on www.time.gov to tell what the us time is exactly to the second. I did that with NIN and got tickets by clicking refresh with about 15 sec before the time, I don't know if it will help or not but try it cause your clock may be about 10-15 sec off which could be the difference between getting them or not. Good luck, hope to see true tool fans snag most of the tickets :)
Awesome idea. But remember, if you click refresh too many times, Ticketmaster will lock you out. Make sure you spread this news. We want to get as many tix as possible. Anyone have any strategies?
polyrythmic987: do you suggest clicking refresh right before the time clicks over?
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What I did was open like 5 different browser windows and would refresh at say 20 seconds till, 15 till, 10 till so that they all start to refresh. Usually one of the 5 will refresh with the option to buy tickets, then go from there- cause if you click right at ten then it may not register till afterwards, I would say try doing it a little before...hope this helps
What I did was open like 5 different browser windows and would refresh at say 20 seconds till, 15 till, 10 till so that they all start to refresh. Usually one of the 5 will refresh with the option to buy tickets, then go from there- cause if you click right at ten then it may not register till afterwards, I would say try doing it a little before...hope this helps
Gotcha. Ok, well I've got 5 people doing it and they're all on T1 or LAN, so it'll refesh pretty fast. I'll have them open up multiple windows, good idea. Have you heard that if you click refresh too much you get locked out?
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Yeah, I would say just click refresh once on each browser as opposed to over and over in one browser. I usually just click once cause I have lost my spot before because I clicked too much on refresh
Yeah, I would say just click refresh once on each browser as opposed to over and over in one browser. I usually just click once cause I have lost my spot before because I clicked too much on refresh
Right on. Thanks man
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Ok, I added some new links to the top of the list for the ticketmaster site and a link to ticketmaster's official seating chart.
Everyone buying online should read polyrythmic987's suggestions too.
1. Multiple browser windows
2. Click refresh in each one once instead of clicking refresh over and over in one window.
This should work a lot better. And remember, if you click refresh too much, you'll be locked out!
The guys on the PA thread found a way around this :)
Open a bunch of IE windows. Go to the page for the concert. Refresh over and over until you are locked out. close that window entirely, in another window, paste the URL and hit enter. Works like a charm, I just tried it out several times. Also remember, that if you look for tickets in one window and then look for them in another, it will release the tickets it reserves for you in the first window so everyone, once it goes on sale, stick to one window.
Edit: Also, I went through refreshing at a rate of once every 5 seconds...I made it to 20 refreshes and it didnt lock me out
Edit 2: Izeps first method would probably work better...have like 10 windows and just rapid fire refresh across all 10. By the time you loop back to the first one, it will have been 5 seconds and you wont get locked out
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to the Ticketmaster website: http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/98321
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.ticketmaster.com/seatingchart/98321/1497
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
Some rules for adding to this thread:
-Make sure you follow the format I’ve laid out. This will make it easier to read, and therefore easier for us to figure out where we stand.
- I know it doesn’t make a difference, but try to put your name in chronological order. This will not affect preference either way, but it’ll help maintain order.
All tickets will be sold for face value!!! If you attempt to make money off this, I hope whatever god you believe in gives you diarrhea.
Totals:
Buyers: 31
Need: 63
Buying: 63
Please update the totals above when you add to the thread. When totaling, use the max number of tickets you may need (i.e. my friend may or may not come, but if he does, I need 2). And only total how many you plan on buying for sure.
Remember, there are people with multiple buyers, and I only added up the number you see here, so there could be more, possibly many more, tickets bought.
Keep adding to this thread
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The guys on the PA thread found a way around this :)
Open a bunch of IE windows. Go to the page for the concert. Refresh over and over until you are locked out. close that window entirely, in another window, paste the URL and hit enter. Works like a charm, I just tried it out several times. Also remember, that if you look for tickets in one window and then look for them in another, it will release the tickets it reserves for you in the first window so everyone, once it goes on sale, stick to one window.
Edit: Also, I went through refreshing at a rate of once every 5 seconds...I made it to 20 refreshes and it didnt lock me out
Edit 2: Izeps first method would probably work better...have like 10 windows and just rapid fire refresh across all 10. By the time you loop back to the first one, it will have been 5 seconds and you wont get locked out
Futureal and I talked, and we came up with a "waterfall" method. he's going to make a tipsheet with things like quick checkout and this waterfall method, among other things, so everyone can be as prepared as possible. he'll spam it throughout the day on this thread, so keep your eyes out.
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Editing my entry. I'm probably buying two, for a cousin who might go. And then again I might not get a ride so either 2 or 1 or none of these could be spare. And that's if I fuckin get them (wtf though, those totals indicate we have none spare?!).
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Ok, here's what we know so far:
- The concert is Monday, May 8 at the McFarlin Auditorium on the SMU campus.
- The venue is entirely seated, with floor and two balconies.
- Link to the Ticketmaster website: http://www.ticketmaster.com/venue/98321
- Link to a seating chart: http://www.ticketmaster.com/seatingchart/98321/1497
- There are 2,200 available
- Tickets go on sale Saturday, April 22 at 10:00am Central Standard Time
- Tickets are $55 plus Ticketmaster fees
- The max number per buyer allowed is 2 tickets
- Estimated sellout time is SECONDS
Some rules for adding to this thread:
-Make sure you follow the format I’ve laid out. This will make it easier to read, and therefore easier for us to figure out where we stand.
- I know it doesn’t make a difference, but try to put your name in chronological order. This will not affect preference either way, but it’ll help maintain order.
All tickets will be sold for face value!!! If you attempt to make money off this, I hope whatever god you believe in gives you diarrhea.
Totals:
Buyers: 31
Need: 64
Buying: 64
Please update the totals above when you add to the thread. When totaling, use the max number of tickets you may need (i.e. my friend may or may not come, but if he does, I need 2). And only total how many you plan on buying for sure.
Remember, there are people with multiple buyers, and I only added up the number you see here, so there could be more, possibly many more, tickets bought.
i just found another way to get around the "lockout", since i dont use IE.
if your using firefox, go to Tools, then Options, click the privacy button up top, then click cookies, and at the bottom right click settings. check all the boxes EXCEPT "ask me before clearing private data".
now all you have to do, is in firefox, if it locks you out, hit ctrl+shift+delete. it clears all cookies, so it resets the lockdown timer.
as a quick note, it will also log you out of ticketmaster, but thats no biggie...you dont need to be logged in to reserve tickets. only to pay for them hehe.
EDIT:
just found a better way to utilize it. every 5 or 6 refreshes, hit ctrl+shift+delete. it never has a chance to lock you out.
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