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02-16-2008, 12:05 AM
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There is love and there is love
There is the Dove and There is the serpent.

This statement from the "Book Of law" is about Unconditional, and seperat selfish self serving love.

"If wants and needs devide me".

The Ego serves to protect the illusion that we are all seperate from
each other. The ego acts as a self serving survival mechanism. When you love under the terms of the EGO, you expect return or else love is with held. When you love under the terms of the EGO you seek out others that are similar, then you hate uppon thoughs that are different.

When you love unconditionaly, you have no need for return, you hate none you love with out expectation.

The in the act of moving to a higher consiousness removal of the ego is nessary, the ego only act to serve the individual.... when you disolve you ego you are then open to love freely. When you move to a higher consiousness you realize that were are all one, and that we are all part of eachother, so why go about hurting your self.

"Shine down upon the broken, shine untill the two become one".... When the EGO is disolved The ID and the Supper EGO cease conflicting with each other and act in unison, they are acting through True Will.

Do as thy Will is the total of the law. Love under will.
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New interpretation of Jambi.

There is love and there is love
There is the Dove and There is the serpent.

This statement from the "Book Of law" is about Unconditional, and seperat selfish self serving love.

"If wants and needs devide me".

The Ego serves to protect the illusion that we are all seperate from
each other. The ego acts as a self serving survival mechanism. When you love under the terms of the EGO, you expect return or else love is with held. When you love under the terms of the EGO you seek out others that are similar, then you hate uppon thoughs that are different.

When you love unconditionaly, you have no need for return, you hate none you love with out expectation.

The in the act of moving to a higher consiousness removal of the ego is nessary, the ego only act to serve the individual.... when you disolve you ego you are then open to love freely. When you move to a higher consiousness you realize that were are all one, and that we are all part of eachother, so why go about hurting your self.

"Shine down upon the broken, shine untill the two become one".... When the EGO is disolved The ID and the Supper EGO cease conflicting with each other and act in unison, they are acting through True Will.

Do as thy Will is the total of the law. Love under will.
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02-16-2008, 12:52 AM
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teehee supper ego

And the word of the Law is Thelema?

I like the interpretation, maybe this should have been in the JAMBI sub-forum thingy.

Can you go a bit further, rather than just focus on one particular line?
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

teehee supper ego

And the word of the Law is Thelema?

I like the interpretation, maybe this should have been in the JAMBI sub-forum thingy.

Can you go a bit further, rather than just focus on one particular line?
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doesn't that book explicitly say that it should not be discussed or interpreted?
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

doesn't that book explicitly say that it should not be discussed or interpreted?
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02-16-2008, 11:22 AM
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introduction, i. the book.
"the study of these passages necessarily demands supreme human scholarship to interpret - it needs years of intense application. a great deal has still to be worked out. but enough has been discovered to justify his claim; the most skeptical intelligence is compelled to admit its truth"

"reality does not see the world through the eye
the eye sees the world created with the brain"
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

introduction, i. the book.
"the study of these passages necessarily demands supreme human scholarship to interpret - it needs years of intense application. a great deal has still to be worked out. but enough has been discovered to justify his claim; the most skeptical intelligence is compelled to admit its truth"

"reality does not see the world through the eye
the eye sees the world created with the brain"
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I'd say it makes sense... and I'd like to hear a lot more from Sleeper.
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

I'd say it makes sense... and I'd like to hear a lot more from Sleeper.
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This is brilliant. It makes sense...and i like this interpretation of Jambi..very cool...post more often! xp
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

This is brilliant. It makes sense...and i like this interpretation of Jambi..very cool...post more often! xp
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02-27-2008, 11:41 PM
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Nice thoughts all around. Yeah, I agree that this crowley guy and his scribblings are cute.
But for fuck's sake........

"The study of this Book is forbidden. It is wise to destroy this copy after the first reading.

Whosoever disregards this does so at his own risk and peril. These are most dire.

Those who discuss the contents of this Book are to be shunned by all, as centres of pestilence."


This guy IS PISSING ON YOUR LEG AND TELLING YOU IT"S RAINING. Yet, you want more. That was not a clever metaphor. That's motherfucking real. "Oh. but by saying it's forbidden, he's saying it's necessa"........shut the fuck up. HE"S PEEING ON YOU!!!!!!!!

It's a bunch of literary masturbation, much like the work of McKenna, which I enjoy, is a bunch of PHYSICAL MASTURBATION, as has been rightly been proven, and freely admitted. It is, at best, excercise.

To paraphrase, "This is crap, but it's pseudo-interesting crap.".

I mean, the best things this guy did was comment, briefly and vaguely, on 2,000 year old books. Whoopee.

This is the Lachrymology of the 21st Century. Want some more? "OH, and you're magicK and stuff."
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

Nice thoughts all around. Yeah, I agree that this crowley guy and his scribblings are cute.
But for fuck's sake........

"The study of this Book is forbidden. It is wise to destroy this copy after the first reading.

Whosoever disregards this does so at his own risk and peril. These are most dire.

Those who discuss the contents of this Book are to be shunned by all, as centres of pestilence."


This guy IS PISSING ON YOUR LEG AND TELLING YOU IT"S RAINING. Yet, you want more. That was not a clever metaphor. That's motherfucking real. "Oh. but by saying it's forbidden, he's saying it's necessa"........shut the fuck up. HE"S PEEING ON YOU!!!!!!!!

It's a bunch of literary masturbation, much like the work of McKenna, which I enjoy, is a bunch of PHYSICAL MASTURBATION, as has been rightly been proven, and freely admitted. It is, at best, excercise.

To paraphrase, "This is crap, but it's pseudo-interesting crap.".

I mean, the best things this guy did was comment, briefly and vaguely, on 2,000 year old books. Whoopee.

This is the Lachrymology of the 21st Century. Want some more? "OH, and you're magicK and stuff."
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02-27-2008, 11:59 PM
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oh, and don't forget hese tidbits of GENIUS:

3. Every man and every woman is a star.

4. Every number is infinite; there is no difference

FUCK! that's just up to number 4. What about #20. Ohhhhh... secret words!
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

oh, and don't forget hese tidbits of GENIUS:

3. Every man and every woman is a star.

4. Every number is infinite; there is no difference

FUCK! that's just up to number 4. What about #20. Ohhhhh... secret words!
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siriusly sirius biznesss indeed.
we are not here for step 1 or step ???.
we are hear to prophet.
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

siriusly sirius biznesss indeed.
we are not here for step 1 or step ???.
we are hear to prophet.
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The reason this book is not to be discussed is because it is about good and evil.... When trying to love in a unified maner, "unconditionaly"..... you have to destroy these constructs of thought: no one is evil just lost or missunderstood, all should be forgiven.... so yes in a sence this book should not be discussed because it promotes the idea of seperation from each other.

Aiwass crowleys spirit guide stopped comunicating with him after he was warned to love his wife "unconditionaly". Crowly with his head stuck up his ass ingnored this warrning and abandoned her for what ever the hell he went off to do...Aiwass never realy comunicated with him after that... except for a few corrections in the geometry of the paintings of the thoth deck...
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

The reason this book is not to be discussed is because it is about good and evil.... When trying to love in a unified maner, "unconditionaly"..... you have to destroy these constructs of thought: no one is evil just lost or missunderstood, all should be forgiven.... so yes in a sence this book should not be discussed because it promotes the idea of seperation from each other.

Aiwass crowleys spirit guide stopped comunicating with him after he was warned to love his wife "unconditionaly". Crowly with his head stuck up his ass ingnored this warrning and abandoned her for what ever the hell he went off to do...Aiwass never realy comunicated with him after that... except for a few corrections in the geometry of the paintings of the thoth deck...
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The idea of this song is that Selfish want renforces the ego.. The Ego is responcible for all the SO called EVIL in the world. EVIL is more about disrespect for one another. The Ego(to pasify it self) looks for comfort by dominating its environment... but when many egos are around they conflict.... all seeking alpha status... peace cannot exist in this state. Things get realy nasty when GROUP EGO surfaces...family, tribal, cultural, nationaly what have you....crusades happen...and wars. Remove the EGO and No need for survival of the fitest. Each Unselfish individual supports the next.
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Re: New interpretation of Jambi.

The idea of this song is that Selfish want renforces the ego.. The Ego is responcible for all the SO called EVIL in the world. EVIL is more about disrespect for one another. The Ego(to pasify it self) looks for comfort by dominating its environment... but when many egos are around they conflict.... all seeking alpha status... peace cannot exist in this state. Things get realy nasty when GROUP EGO surfaces...family, tribal, cultural, nationaly what have you....crusades happen...and wars. Remove the EGO and No need for survival of the fitest. Each Unselfish individual supports the next.
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The idea of this song is that Selfish want renforces the ego.. The Ego is responcible for all the SO called EVIL in the world. EVIL is more about disrespect for one another. The Ego(to pasify it self) looks for comfort by dominating its environment... but when many egos are around they conflict.... all seeking alpha status... peace cannot exist in this state. Things get realy nasty when GROUP EGO surfaces...family, tribal, cultural, nationaly what have you....crusades happen...and wars. Remove the EGO and No need for survival of the fitest. Each Unselfish individual supports the next.
But why think about any of that and gain something deeper about this song when we can just assume that its about Maynards son?
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The idea of this song is that Selfish want renforces the ego.. The Ego is responcible for all the SO called EVIL in the world. EVIL is more about disrespect for one another. The Ego(to pasify it self) looks for comfort by dominating its environment... but when many egos are around they conflict.... all seeking alpha status... peace cannot exist in this state. Things get realy nasty when GROUP EGO surfaces...family, tribal, cultural, nationaly what have you....crusades happen...and wars. Remove the EGO and No need for survival of the fitest. Each Unselfish individual supports the next.
But why think about any of that and gain something deeper about this song when we can just assume that its about Maynards son?
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But why think about any of that and gain something deeper about this song when we can just assume that its about Maynards son?
Of course... take the easy way out... "Repugnant is a creature that would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven". But of course who cares right... this world is fucked and you fix it by not giving a shit... you fix it by pointing the finger at every one but your self... And say BUT he did this, or you did that.... any thing to avoid...responcibilty....

You all hear that With your heads so far up your own asses..... Seperation is the key to UNITY... TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE SHIT THAT WILL FIX THE WORLD.... .. right noose??... you and i dont have worry about the next person... they dont matter for shit do they?? Just let the whole fucking world go to hell... that is the solution to life right, hate and selfishness and lazynes(ya thats right any thing you can do to get away from change in yourself any real kind of work).... OH but what is this now... we are alone... we better find others just like us so we can all join in on hateing others.....hay i got an idea lets have a group hate fight....we can all shout obsenities and throw grenades.... it will be a blast!!
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But why think about any of that and gain something deeper about this song when we can just assume that its about Maynards son?
Of course... take the easy way out... "Repugnant is a creature that would squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven". But of course who cares right... this world is fucked and you fix it by not giving a shit... you fix it by pointing the finger at every one but your self... And say BUT he did this, or you did that.... any thing to avoid...responcibilty....

You all hear that With your heads so far up your own asses..... Seperation is the key to UNITY... TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE SHIT THAT WILL FIX THE WORLD.... .. right noose??... you and i dont have worry about the next person... they dont matter for shit do they?? Just let the whole fucking world go to hell... that is the solution to life right, hate and selfishness and lazynes(ya thats right any thing you can do to get away from change in yourself any real kind of work).... OH but what is this now... we are alone... we better find others just like us so we can all join in on hateing others.....hay i got an idea lets have a group hate fight....we can all shout obsenities and throw grenades.... it will be a blast!!
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Nor let the fools mistake Love! For there are “Love” and “Love”.
There is the Dove, and there is the Serpent.
Choose ye well!
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Love is the Law; Love under Will!
Nor let the fools mistake Love! For there are “Love” and “Love”.
There is the Dove, and there is the Serpent.
Choose ye well!
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