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guitarpete987
06-12-2007, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea of Lies View Post
ADAM.

I play guitar, my fav band is tool and i always looked at adam as a genius until 10,000 days happened. His effects were mind-blowing for me before but now... seems he ran out of ideas. He's just repeating old riffs... the whole album's genius, but his work pulls it back. It's like he couldnt keep up with Danny and Justin.

And THERE ARE A LOT of guitar players that can play sicker stuff, and by that i don't mean all virtuosos, but people that use weird efects. I'd consider :

- Mike Tempesta (NOT for his work in pm5k that sucked, but for Human Waste)
- Agata from MxBx (they're opening tool this year in US)
- Mat Bellamy. He could even help Maynard sing.
- One of the guitar players from Meshuggah.

I'd chose Mike Tempesta.. Adam could stay as the band's artist... or the second guitar. Maybe having 2 guitar players is what TOOL needs now..



Danny and Justin CANNOT be replaced. Tool would cease existing.


Maynard... his voice's coming to an end, so maybe in the future someone will have to take his place. I'd choose Trent Reznor, i can't imagine anyone else there.

Well I also play guitar (for 13 years, I'm no amateur) and I have to disagree. His riffs on 10,000 Days take his style to new places, for sure. Vicarious is the only song that kinda borrows from the past. He's never written a riff like Jambi. His low D-high D bendy thing on The Pot is pure simplistic genius (and his riff on the bridge is pure slightly more complex genius, another lick dissimilar from his past work), the most important musical element for most of Rosetta Stoned for me is his amazing guitar work, despite obvious references to the past (I think that was the idea on this one), his subtle touch entirely makes the mood work on Intension, and Right in Two, like it or not, is all about Adam's haunting clean tone intro, which also is a bit unlike what he's done before. And c'mon that wide-open riff heavy-ass riff after the tabla stuff ushers in the rest of the song unmistakably, and again showcases this master of simplicity.

I hardly believe he's out of ideas.

It's not that these riffs are hard to play or emulate. The genius in them is that that HE thought of them, and that no one else sounds like him. Unless they are copying his style, that is.

And as a songwriter, I can tell you it's a lot harder to come up with something simple and memorably effective than something complicated and showy.

Adam is irreplaceable. As are Danny and Justin. I'm with the school of thought that Maynard is replaceable, if only because I feel the core of the band's sound is in its instrumental sound more than anything else.

But dear god I hope he never is replaced, because his voice is such a perfect match to what the instrumentalists create.

Last edited by guitarpete987; 06-12-2007 at 07:40 PM..
Old 06-12-2007, 06:59 PM   #49
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Re: Could a member of the current Tool line-up be replaced?

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Originally Posted by Sea of Lies View Post
ADAM.

I play guitar, my fav band is tool and i always looked at adam as a genius until 10,000 days happened. His effects were mind-blowing for me before but now... seems he ran out of ideas. He's just repeating old riffs... the whole album's genius, but his work pulls it back. It's like he couldnt keep up with Danny and Justin.

And THERE ARE A LOT of guitar players that can play sicker stuff, and by that i don't mean all virtuosos, but people that use weird efects. I'd consider :

- Mike Tempesta (NOT for his work in pm5k that sucked, but for Human Waste)
- Agata from MxBx (they're opening tool this year in US)
- Mat Bellamy. He could even help Maynard sing.
- One of the guitar players from Meshuggah.

I'd chose Mike Tempesta.. Adam could stay as the band's artist... or the second guitar. Maybe having 2 guitar players is what TOOL needs now..



Danny and Justin CANNOT be replaced. Tool would cease existing.


Maynard... his voice's coming to an end, so maybe in the future someone will have to take his place. I'd choose Trent Reznor, i can't imagine anyone else there.

Well I also play guitar (for 13 years, I'm no amateur) and I have to disagree. His riffs on 10,000 Days take his style to new places, for sure. Vicarious is the only song that kinda borrows from the past. He's never written a riff like Jambi. His low D-high D bendy thing on The Pot is pure simplistic genius (and his riff on the bridge is pure slightly more complex genius, another lick dissimilar from his past work), the most important musical element for most of Rosetta Stoned for me is his amazing guitar work, despite obvious references to the past (I think that was the idea on this one), his subtle touch entirely makes the mood work on Intension, and Right in Two, like it or not, is all about Adam's haunting clean tone intro, which also is a bit unlike what he's done before. And c'mon that wide-open riff heavy-ass riff after the tabla stuff ushers in the rest of the song unmistakably, and again showcases this master of simplicity.

I hardly believe he's out of ideas.

It's not that these riffs are hard to play or emulate. The genius in them is that that HE thought of them, and that no one else sounds like him. Unless they are copying his style, that is.

And as a songwriter, I can tell you it's a lot harder to come up with something simple and memorably effective than something complicated and showy.

Adam is irreplaceable. As are Danny and Justin. I'm with the school of thought that Maynard is replaceable, if only because I feel the core of the band's sound is in its instrumental sound more than anything else.

But dear god I hope he never is replaced, because his voice is such a perfect match to what the instrumentalists create.

Last edited by guitarpete987; 06-12-2007 at 07:40 PM..
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