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07-19-2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeDeviations
Song is about how Maynard perceives everyone... fans and society in general.. and he's losing patience.

Uses the alien abduction thing.. as a clever way of saying he's the "chosen one" to deliver messages to people...

He's saying... nothing changes in people regardless of what I say.. and it never will. It's a burden trying to help people see or understand... yet I still do it... and nothing ever changes. "Born to bear"... he feels some obligation...

"Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be the One
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see." That's Maynard speaking to you. The real point to the song.

"But I forgot my pen" Maynard saying that's our pathetic reply/mentality to what he's offered.. (nothing soaks in with people... rolls off their back)

"Shit the bed again." = we continue to not get it... over and over- regardless how many times he says it.

then Maynard says "Typical...." rather sarcastically.

and we don't know... and won't know...
he's conceding to self that he'll never make a siginificant impact because people just don't get it.
Given all the "one meaning" talk coming from ThreeDeviations in this thread, I feel a need to let you know that you're 100% wrong.

"Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen."

So it's our alien-abducted protagonist who's "writing it down for all the world to see", yet it's his followers who are in need of a pen? If that's Maynard's "one intended meaning" that we're all idiots for not getting, he sure did try to make it pretty fucking hard for us to decipher; kind of like God putting fossils here to test our faith. Are we all making copies of these revelations by hand? Presumably all of these followers aren't also tripping out of their minds (or however else the song might be interpreted), so couldn't they just remember it and write it down later? Why would the man whose lyrics are scrutinized and obsessed over probably more than anyone else's in the world devote an 11 minute song to how he's not taken seriously enough? Why would he be such an arrogant prick to compare himself in complete seriousness to a messianic prophet, especially with all the "think for yourself, question authority" themes in much of their earlier music? And most of all, why the fuck would he change who's speaking for a single line during the song's climax without giving any real lyrical or musical indication of that intention, when the entire rest of the song is the same protagonist speaking?

I agree that Tool songs generally do have one specific intended meaning. Rosetta Stoned seems more abstract than most, in that on the surface it's simply a story about aliens and drugs. I've read several interesting interpretations, but at this point one of the few things I can say with certainty about this song is that ThreeDeviations' interpretation is completely wrong.

Oh and I also think that Maynard probably doesn't sit around thinking about how the world would be an Eden-like paradise if only people would take him more seriously.
Old 07-19-2006, 10:16 AM   #243
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Re: Maynard's patience wearing thin

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Originally Posted by ThreeDeviations
Song is about how Maynard perceives everyone... fans and society in general.. and he's losing patience.

Uses the alien abduction thing.. as a clever way of saying he's the "chosen one" to deliver messages to people...

He's saying... nothing changes in people regardless of what I say.. and it never will. It's a burden trying to help people see or understand... yet I still do it... and nothing ever changes. "Born to bear"... he feels some obligation...

"Overwhelmed as one would be, placed in my position.
Such a heavy burden now to be the One
Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see." That's Maynard speaking to you. The real point to the song.

"But I forgot my pen" Maynard saying that's our pathetic reply/mentality to what he's offered.. (nothing soaks in with people... rolls off their back)

"Shit the bed again." = we continue to not get it... over and over- regardless how many times he says it.

then Maynard says "Typical...." rather sarcastically.

and we don't know... and won't know...
he's conceding to self that he'll never make a siginificant impact because people just don't get it.
Given all the "one meaning" talk coming from ThreeDeviations in this thread, I feel a need to let you know that you're 100% wrong.

"Born to bear and read to all the details of our ending,
To write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen."

So it's our alien-abducted protagonist who's "writing it down for all the world to see", yet it's his followers who are in need of a pen? If that's Maynard's "one intended meaning" that we're all idiots for not getting, he sure did try to make it pretty fucking hard for us to decipher; kind of like God putting fossils here to test our faith. Are we all making copies of these revelations by hand? Presumably all of these followers aren't also tripping out of their minds (or however else the song might be interpreted), so couldn't they just remember it and write it down later? Why would the man whose lyrics are scrutinized and obsessed over probably more than anyone else's in the world devote an 11 minute song to how he's not taken seriously enough? Why would he be such an arrogant prick to compare himself in complete seriousness to a messianic prophet, especially with all the "think for yourself, question authority" themes in much of their earlier music? And most of all, why the fuck would he change who's speaking for a single line during the song's climax without giving any real lyrical or musical indication of that intention, when the entire rest of the song is the same protagonist speaking?

I agree that Tool songs generally do have one specific intended meaning. Rosetta Stoned seems more abstract than most, in that on the surface it's simply a story about aliens and drugs. I've read several interesting interpretations, but at this point one of the few things I can say with certainty about this song is that ThreeDeviations' interpretation is completely wrong.

Oh and I also think that Maynard probably doesn't sit around thinking about how the world would be an Eden-like paradise if only people would take him more seriously.
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