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08-09-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dredg
I am not quite sure what you mean. I think my interpertation is about the WHOLE song, where as you are just looking at one lyric. Carbon is right in that "expression of selfish desire and instinct" is part of humans and this type of will exists to this day, but he is leaving out rest of the lyrics in the song.
I think your overall interpretation of the full song is right on. I'm just looking at how you relate this particular line ("move by will alone") to the rest of the lyrics, so this is why I am focusing on this part.

Carbonatedgravy says that it's selfish "human will" that ignores the needs of others. We are moved by (selfish) will alone, and not by concern for other people.

Your view seems to go beyond this by claiming that this selfish human will is merely symptomatic of a deeper "universal will" that determines how we act (via physics, chemistry, etc).
I'm not against this idea, but I don't think everybody would want to label these cosmic forces as "will", and I think many would even want to contrast these forces with "will" in the regular human sense.
If most people would not recognize this use of "will" as universal will, then most people would miss the meaning of the line, IF this is what was meant by it.

So this is why I'm not convinced that this was the intended meaning for the line.

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Old 08-09-2006, 08:13 AM   #9
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Re: Move by will alone...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredg
I am not quite sure what you mean. I think my interpertation is about the WHOLE song, where as you are just looking at one lyric. Carbon is right in that "expression of selfish desire and instinct" is part of humans and this type of will exists to this day, but he is leaving out rest of the lyrics in the song.
I think your overall interpretation of the full song is right on. I'm just looking at how you relate this particular line ("move by will alone") to the rest of the lyrics, so this is why I am focusing on this part.

Carbonatedgravy says that it's selfish "human will" that ignores the needs of others. We are moved by (selfish) will alone, and not by concern for other people.

Your view seems to go beyond this by claiming that this selfish human will is merely symptomatic of a deeper "universal will" that determines how we act (via physics, chemistry, etc).
I'm not against this idea, but I don't think everybody would want to label these cosmic forces as "will", and I think many would even want to contrast these forces with "will" in the regular human sense.
If most people would not recognize this use of "will" as universal will, then most people would miss the meaning of the line, IF this is what was meant by it.

So this is why I'm not convinced that this was the intended meaning for the line.

Last edited by spacemonkeyadb; 08-09-2006 at 08:17 AM..
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