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Kody27
06-16-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CCP View Post
OK, so i'm new here on this site, basically because i've never really been into using the internet much. However, i have been a pretty big fan of tool since about 1995 when i was sixteen and first heard Opiate and Undertow. In my humble opinion Aenima is the best album i've ever owned, i still love it and think it's a perfect album. Then i wait five years for their next release which ofcourse is Lateralus, and album which took a bit of listening before it grew on me, now i like it a lot, The Grudge is one of my favorite songs from the band. But it never came close to the greatness of Aenima, and really there are only five good songs on it.

AND THEN... - 2006 and i see a commercial on tv advertising a new album from the band, a commercial which played a teaser of the song vicarious, i got quite excited because i liked what i heard. Then i buy the album 10,000 days on the release date. Vicarious is a pretty good song, it doesnt come close to anything on Aenima though. and then jambi is ok, um the title track pretty good if you're in the mood for it, the pot is possibly the worst tool song ever, and i don't care how many fanboys try telling me that Maynards vocals at the start of that song are amazing, it sounds terrible, what was he thinking?. rosetta stoned is alright, parts of it are good, and right in two is an alright song too, but none of them are anywhere near as good as most of their early work. There is not one moment on the album that has the passion of their earlier work.

The vocals are laboured, the musicianship is recycled and the fact that they released that crap is a kick in the teeth to tool fans world wide. I loved tool and as much as i was hanging out for more albums from them, i really wish they had just given up if 10,000 days is all they can come up with. Oh and to those of you who say it's just like Lateralus, it requires a lot of listening before ya get it. Bullshit, i've had the album three years and would have listened to it over a hundred times, it still bores me, and no i'm not going to light a whole bunch of candles and meditate and shit just to try and unravel some non existent mystery.

I see that tool are on tour again, if they're contemplating making new material, they have got to forget about 10,000 days and write something good this time. Or better yet, write a song about how much 10,000 days sucks.

My three favorite albums from all bands are Aenima-Undertow-Lateralus. My least favorite album from all bands is 10,000 days. That says something.

I just wish that real fans of the band will finally admit that it sucks and stop fooling themselves, I read reviews on amazon.com and there were a lot of people giving this shit five stars lol. It's funny that they all said practically the same thing. "you gotta give it a few listens before you understand it", "this album is genius". BUllshit.

The best thing for the bands sake would be for the fans to finally be honest about how much the album sucks. Tool must be the only band in the world who's fans will accept such crap from with such eager ignorance.
You can't complain about a song that you have no idea what it means, all you can do is say,
"I don't understand anything maynard is talking about" and leave it at that. Instead you're just making yourself look like an extremist, and an ignorant one at that.

I will agree, however, that Lateralus and Aenima have a more complete album experience as a whole, like one long movie or state of mind that you can stay in for the whole show. As to where Days is more like a collection of different movies, and separate states of mind, cut up and forcefully tied together with some ambient string.

I must say that Lipan conjuring, to me anyway, is the equivalent of ginger at a sushi place. You know the pink ham looking stuff that they put next to the wasabi (green horse radish)? It's sole purpose is to cleanse your taste buds inbetween dishes or different types of sushi, so you can fully appreciate the taste and quality of the next dish without mixing it all together. Of course most americans just shove it all in their mouth, but not unlike fine wine tasters the japanese like to enjoy the different experiences of sushi. I think that's why Lipan conjuring was put where it was, inbetween the pot and lost keys to act as a sort of cleansing point, and also a swivel from straight rock to epic psychedelia.

in my opinion, tool wanted us to experience 10,00 Days as a whole just as much as they experienced it when they wrote it, so they gave us these "fillers" to justify our state of mind.

Musically speaking, the album is fucking phenomenal, there's no question about that, and I tend to think more of Danny Carey than anything when saying that. Everything that man does is golden, and I'm not even a drummer, i'm a guitarist. Adam plays his role perfectly, imo, as does justin and maynard just doesn't give a shit anymore. That's not to say that he didn't impress me on days though, it actually impresses me more that he can not give a shit and still make timeless songs that will last 50 years from now. Of course I guess we'll just have to wait and see won't we?
Old 06-16-2009, 08:48 PM   #12
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Re: 10,000 days is great?

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Originally Posted by CCP View Post
OK, so i'm new here on this site, basically because i've never really been into using the internet much. However, i have been a pretty big fan of tool since about 1995 when i was sixteen and first heard Opiate and Undertow. In my humble opinion Aenima is the best album i've ever owned, i still love it and think it's a perfect album. Then i wait five years for their next release which ofcourse is Lateralus, and album which took a bit of listening before it grew on me, now i like it a lot, The Grudge is one of my favorite songs from the band. But it never came close to the greatness of Aenima, and really there are only five good songs on it.

AND THEN... - 2006 and i see a commercial on tv advertising a new album from the band, a commercial which played a teaser of the song vicarious, i got quite excited because i liked what i heard. Then i buy the album 10,000 days on the release date. Vicarious is a pretty good song, it doesnt come close to anything on Aenima though. and then jambi is ok, um the title track pretty good if you're in the mood for it, the pot is possibly the worst tool song ever, and i don't care how many fanboys try telling me that Maynards vocals at the start of that song are amazing, it sounds terrible, what was he thinking?. rosetta stoned is alright, parts of it are good, and right in two is an alright song too, but none of them are anywhere near as good as most of their early work. There is not one moment on the album that has the passion of their earlier work.

The vocals are laboured, the musicianship is recycled and the fact that they released that crap is a kick in the teeth to tool fans world wide. I loved tool and as much as i was hanging out for more albums from them, i really wish they had just given up if 10,000 days is all they can come up with. Oh and to those of you who say it's just like Lateralus, it requires a lot of listening before ya get it. Bullshit, i've had the album three years and would have listened to it over a hundred times, it still bores me, and no i'm not going to light a whole bunch of candles and meditate and shit just to try and unravel some non existent mystery.

I see that tool are on tour again, if they're contemplating making new material, they have got to forget about 10,000 days and write something good this time. Or better yet, write a song about how much 10,000 days sucks.

My three favorite albums from all bands are Aenima-Undertow-Lateralus. My least favorite album from all bands is 10,000 days. That says something.

I just wish that real fans of the band will finally admit that it sucks and stop fooling themselves, I read reviews on amazon.com and there were a lot of people giving this shit five stars lol. It's funny that they all said practically the same thing. "you gotta give it a few listens before you understand it", "this album is genius". BUllshit.

The best thing for the bands sake would be for the fans to finally be honest about how much the album sucks. Tool must be the only band in the world who's fans will accept such crap from with such eager ignorance.
You can't complain about a song that you have no idea what it means, all you can do is say,
"I don't understand anything maynard is talking about" and leave it at that. Instead you're just making yourself look like an extremist, and an ignorant one at that.

I will agree, however, that Lateralus and Aenima have a more complete album experience as a whole, like one long movie or state of mind that you can stay in for the whole show. As to where Days is more like a collection of different movies, and separate states of mind, cut up and forcefully tied together with some ambient string.

I must say that Lipan conjuring, to me anyway, is the equivalent of ginger at a sushi place. You know the pink ham looking stuff that they put next to the wasabi (green horse radish)? It's sole purpose is to cleanse your taste buds inbetween dishes or different types of sushi, so you can fully appreciate the taste and quality of the next dish without mixing it all together. Of course most americans just shove it all in their mouth, but not unlike fine wine tasters the japanese like to enjoy the different experiences of sushi. I think that's why Lipan conjuring was put where it was, inbetween the pot and lost keys to act as a sort of cleansing point, and also a swivel from straight rock to epic psychedelia.

in my opinion, tool wanted us to experience 10,00 Days as a whole just as much as they experienced it when they wrote it, so they gave us these "fillers" to justify our state of mind.

Musically speaking, the album is fucking phenomenal, there's no question about that, and I tend to think more of Danny Carey than anything when saying that. Everything that man does is golden, and I'm not even a drummer, i'm a guitarist. Adam plays his role perfectly, imo, as does justin and maynard just doesn't give a shit anymore. That's not to say that he didn't impress me on days though, it actually impresses me more that he can not give a shit and still make timeless songs that will last 50 years from now. Of course I guess we'll just have to wait and see won't we?
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