Dec 11 San Francisco, CA Bill Graham Civic [Archive]

musicmansf

12-12-2007, 12:37 AM

Jambi
Stinkfist (extended)
46&2
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
Flood
Intermission with SICK ASS LIGHTS
Wings for Marie Pt.1
10,000 Days Pt.2
Lateralus (with Primus' drummer and Trans Am Drummer)
Holiday in Cambodia!!!
Vicarious

Well, this cleared up alot of things. This is the Tool show I needed after being raped at Street Scene by idiots in San Diego, and the Reno show when it seemed everyone was off thier game. I didn't look at set lists because I was hoping for a new suprise this time round, but hey, FUCKING HOLIDAY IN CAMBODIA!!! Now I think the Dead Kennedy's are shit, but thats a great song, and Tool playing it? Uh...fucking awesome! Maynard was fuckin' hilarious and talkative which was great after him walking off the stage a few times in Reno, especially during the climax of Schism, this time, hearing him sing it made me fucking smile ear to ear :) They did extended stinkfist and it was great hearing everyone sing out of place. Oh man, I have no words for this show!!!! FLOOD OWNED ALL!!! He bailed out on the last note of the song, but hey, I can't hit it, who am I to judge?
Figuring it was SF, they would play the pot to be ironic, but its alright, because everyone was in a good mood so it set the stage for a great show. I was up 15 ft. from the stage and at some points I thought I was just going to faint, esepcially during 46&2 and schism. I wanted to sing so bad, but if I did, I struggled to catch my damn breath even more!
Last time I saw 10,000 Days, some idiot got on stage and ruined it for Maynard, so hearing him do it with full passion was so powerful. Lateralus is always just beatiful and Vicarious was flawless. At the end of it, the house lights didnt come on for about a minute and they looked at each other like they really wanted to do Aenima, and I thought they would because they didnt play Lost Keys. I haven't checked LA's setlist yet, but im assuming for the time being Aenima was played because its about LA.

While I can always hope for the Grudge all I want, I know I'll probably never get to see that song live. Especially after another 5 years for Maynards vocals if they do make another record and tour.

I'm so fucking happy right now :) This show was better than Rage downtown, and thats hard to out-do.

Anaguma

12-12-2007, 12:48 AM

Last time I saw 10,000 Days, some idiot got on stage and ruined it for Maynard, so hearing him do it with full passion was so powerful. Lateralus is always just beatiful and Vicarious was flawless. At the end of it, the house lights didnt come on for about a minute and they looked at each other like they really wanted to do Aenima, and I thought they would because they didnt play Lost Keys. I haven't checked LA's setlist yet, but im assuming for the time being Aenima was played because its about LA.

I was just cruising the reviews of last night's L.A. show, and it seems that the band did the same thing at the end of the set then, too. Strange. Up against time constraints? Feeling tired? Maynard's voice not up for the task? I dunno...i did notice that Maynard tended to avoid hitting the really intense notes for some songs (he brought the note of the last scream in Flood down, and he just let the audience do the last bit for Vicarious), so who knows. I was really expecting an encore of some sort.

And also as a minor, general gripe: Tool, could you guys please do a couple more songs from the Opiate/Undertow days? The last few years, you've been treating those albums like red-headed stepchildren you keep locked in the attic. The lyric content alone from some of those songs are worth revisiting, considering what's going on these days ("Intolerance", anyone?)...

wix3l

12-12-2007, 12:50 AM

Holy. FUCKING. shit.

That was crackin

jambi
stinkfist (extended)
forty-six & 2
schism (extended)
rosetta stoned
flood
wings for marie
10,000 days
lateralus (extended)
holiday in cambodia (ft. Jello Biafra on vocals)
vicarious

some funny maynardisms:
before lateralus drum shit--- "let the drum-off begin" after the "drum off" he held up score cards....first an 8 then a 9.... 89??? 89 earthquake??? i thought we were getting aenema.
"no animals were harmed in the making of this music...."
something he said at last years Oakland show right before they got off stage....."peace the fuck out"

highlights were:
stinkfist
schism
flood
wings 1+2 (first time seeing!!!!)
lateralus

vision4bg

12-12-2007, 01:01 AM

Wow.

Great gig. Solid setlist, but not the best. Still doesn't beat opening with Third Eye in 1997. Very samey to the last couple of shows I've seen too. That said, I'm not complaining. First half of the show was fucking fantastic.

Real highlight was seeing Jello Biafra of all people! Unbelievable. So stoked I could be there for that. Kabir, you missed out bra!

kr580

12-12-2007, 01:06 AM

My first Tool show... amazing.

The lights were amazing throughout. I'm still in awe. I don't know what I can say about the performance other than it was amazing. Is there any band that puts on a better performance?

No disappointments AT ALL. I tend to hype things up in my mind and end up disappointed but this show blew my mind. I really hope they do come back SOON. I can't wait.

Maynard before the 'drum-off': "Time for drum silliness."

Maynard speaking of the techs in the white smocks: "These are our oompa loompas. We got them in a fire sale. I guess they were too tall to work in the chocolate factory. Thank you oompa loompas!"

taxicabgod

12-12-2007, 01:20 AM

I liked nokia better. just sayin. but that's mostly cause i was in a killer seat last night and tonight i was way up top left and it was muddy sound up there.
i should have got there early but i was more concerned with finding some good chinese food so in the end i fk'd myself with that move cause all the good seats were gone. and i'm too short and too old for that floor. however, the floor tonight was an impressive thing to watch from above. made me wish i still had it in me.

kr580

12-12-2007, 01:28 AM

Also, after the drum-off Tim Alexander (of Primus) flung a drumstick which landed near Maynard which Maynard then proceeded to try to auction it off to the crowd. :D

Maynard's awesome.

musicmansf

12-12-2007, 01:49 AM

Also, after the drum-off Tim Alexander (of Primus) flung a drumstick which landed near Maynard which Maynard then proceeded to try to auction it off to the crowd. :D

Maynard's awesome.

It really was such a great feeling knowing he was having a good time in our fuckin' city! More importantly...was he being sarcastic...or serious about seeing us real soon? haha, I don't even know if I'd want to spoil tonight by seeing them again. My jaw is still on the ground back at the damn civic center

nuraman00

12-12-2007, 02:02 AM

edit: oh and they turned the base up so high on a couple of songs that the base shook my pants like the wind in the city.

I know what you mean, lol!

My 2nd time seeing them. This time, I got to see the visuals, so I enjoyed this show a lot more. I was on the floor last time, and didn't see the visuals too well.

Yeah, I'm glad they played "flood". I just wanted to hear something different from Undertow, and that was it.

I don't think I heard Maynard say "Vicariously I . . ." at the end, but maybe I missed it, or the audience did it for him.

The audience sang along the most with Wings For Marie & 10,000 Days.

At some point, I would love to hear any of: "Prison Sex", "The Grudge", "Third Eye", "jimmy", "Pushit", "Intolerance", "Hooker With A Penis".

They played just over 2 hours, nice!

blp

12-12-2007, 03:13 AM

unreal as always... this was either my 8th or 9th show, first time was in 93, and this was my third 10kdays show, and by FAR the best. the new light show at the intermission is unbelievable. was my sister's first tool show and she was blown away... i just can't describe how unreal their live set is, it's totally amazing. i mean it HAS to go down as one of the best live shows ever--i really mean that. first class all the way.

i feel special we got to see Tool do a cover they've never done before (at least to my knowledge) when they started into it, it was like 'is this really happening?!'.. they nailed it too.

i really hope when MJK said they'd see us again soon and he meant it from the bottom of his heart that they are going to continue to tour. i just feel like every show i see may be the last one for a long while, if not ever. i really hope for our sakes they go keep touring a while and then go back and record another disc sometime in the future.

the thing that made this show so special i think was they were in prime form, played SO clean and so tight all night, and MJK was really REALLY in good spirits. he said 10x more tonight than he did at the previous two shows i saw at Marysville and Reno. and with the exception of the end of Vicarious, he sang HARD all night.

Flood an Lateralus stood out to me tonight, and it was an especially moving version of Wings/10kdays too. for me, Flood was the topper tonight, been a while since I have seen them play that one and it was just perfect.

only negative was that it took 75 minutes SEVENtY FIVE to get out of the parking garage. then it took us another 30 to get onto the bay bridge because of road work. but it was well worth it...

we had after show passes, but decided to skip it because we heard they almost never show for them... think i'll just save the sticker for a keepsake or something. no way i was going to stand in a line for an hour and get stiffed heh. hopethey come back soon!

c_lainhart

12-12-2007, 09:12 AM

Trans Am Live - Good
Tool Live - Outstanding
Tool performing "Holiday in Cambodia" w/ Jello Biafra...Live - Priceless

My 12th show and they don't ever disappoint.

benlong

12-12-2007, 09:23 AM

About '...from the bottom of my heart.' He then said, 'So, peace the fuck out'.

voltaic

12-12-2007, 09:32 AM

4th show in four years, first one in San Fran.

Trans Am was surprisingly good. I had listened to some samples from their website and was unimpressed, but they were completely awesome on stage. I'm going to have to go listen to their sampels again to see where I went wrong! It's excellent how Tool always has high quality acts touring with them, from Trans Am to Isis to King Crimson. Had a good spot on the floor and loved every minute of the show. Took my girlfriend (it was her first Tool show) and they played all of her favorite songs: Jambi, Schism, and 46 & Two, so huge bonus there. I was disappointed that they didn't play Right In Two on this tour, and I had hoped they play Aenima for this California show but no such luck. Learn to swim!

Adam and Justin were killing it, neither one looked like he was ready to stop... they just kept hammering and hammering and hammering. Danny was in great form, and the "drum contest" was cool. The Trans Am drummer moves like a blur; you can barely see his arms when he gets going. Jello Biafra has put on some serious weight; I guess he isn't burning as many calories fighting the man anymore. But as someone who missed out on the original punk era by only a few years, it was still awesome to see him perform live. His front-stage animation is totally different from Maynard's background passivity. Maynard was in great voice. He only missed one line during one song (I think it was during Lateralus) but he was hitting the notes every which-a-way. Those guys really kick it for the larger cities (this is the first time I've seen Tool in a "big city").

Over all, while the acoustics in the auditorium aren't as good as other venues, it was an excellent show. I'm very happy to have been able to go, and the drive time there and back and all the other stuff I had to organize around it, was all worth it. Every bit.

Team Coors Light

12-12-2007, 10:28 AM

TransAm was lame, period.

I cried during Rosetta Stoned.

'Nuff said.

Thanks Tool!!!

livid star

12-12-2007, 11:14 AM

First off, it's pretty amazing that I was even able to attend last night's show.

THANK YOU CAROLYN!

Moving forward. This was definitely the best show I've seen recently. After the Reno show, it could only get better. Adam was spot on and shredding it up and down in all his stoic bliss. <3 Adam <3

Danny=Skins Master for life.

Flood was a great addition to the setlist. Great performance on that little didy.

Dead Kennedys, a San Francisco treat! Nice surprise and excellent rendition of Holiday in Cambodia, especially if they had one day to rehearse that(?).

Kudos to the crowd for not being inconsiderate retards during WFM/10KDays. Tool sailed flawlessly through those songs with a lot of passion.

When they first started this tour, I was less than thrilled with the vocals being so subdued. Honestly, I feel it's a lot better that way. I like hearing the intricities of Adam's playing and FEELING the power of Danny's drumming, coupled with experiencing the fury that is Justin. Most of us have experienced Tool circa 1990's when Maynard could perform like no other. It's hard to face it, but long gone are the days of bellowing and holding notes for 40 seconds, while in some tantric yoga formation.

Tool have definitely molded into just what they need to be, right now in this day
and age.

Thank you TOOL. I hope to see you again real soon and I mean that from the
bottom of my heart.

blp

12-12-2007, 11:34 AM

The sound was incredible where I was standing, as good as any show I can remember. I was about 15 feet to the right of the very front of the sound board though, so I'm sure that helped a lot. It was very balanced and no one was too loud or quiet. I was able to hear every part of the band distinctly that's for sure. Adam's guitar sounds so effing good, every time I seen them I just drool over his tone.. and he played so clean last night. Danny and Justin were as-one and flawless like usual and MJK was really into it, so it really made for a great show.

hushypushy

12-12-2007, 11:43 AM

This was my second Tool show. I saw them last September in Oakland and the entire experience and show made me feel like shit. Oakland sucks and the show was just "good". I ended up becoming a Tool bootleg freak as anyone here knows...I just had to go and listen to every other 2006 and 2007 show for some reason. And you know what? They are all the same. They sound exactly the same. But for some reason I still wanted to go.

Jambi
(-) ions
Stinkfist (extended)
Forty Six & 2
'Vicarious Jam'
Schism
Rosetta Stoned
Flood (w/long intro)
intermission
Wings for Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus (extended w/Sebastian and Herb)
Holiday in Cambodia (w/Jello Biafra)
Vicarious

In 2006 it looked like they were working out the visuals system and testing the setlist. Now, they have a locked in setlist and it's a complete full out audio and visual experience. When they played Holiday in Cambodia, it was augmented with a few visuals and lights, and only toward the end. The contrast between the simple lighting and visuals for this song compared to the INSANELY powerful visuals of every song before it was huge. It's all about the combined experience.

I had great seats, my girlfriend and I showed up at 6:45 or so; there was no line at Will Call so we got our tickets and walked to the back of the line (which was out to Market by the way). We walked right in, went to the second floor, and found two seats in DEAD CENTER. People give me shit for it, but I just want to kick back and relax. I had my feet propped up on the seat in front of me and my entire vision was filled. They had too much to see, man. They went to 11 on the visuals. And a 0.3 for Holiday in Camboda btw. The seats REALLY matter, it seems. Being in the floor before, I couldn't see the screens on stage or the floors. The lasers just go over and behind your head so it's really no good. Last night I could see everything in front of me perfectly. A very different visual experience. Although, they did add a couple huge screens to the left and right of stage, I suppose for the benefit of those people on the floor. I don't know why they didn't use that setup in 2006; they were already using it in 2002!

MAYNARD was in a great mood. He came out and started making fun of San Francisco, telling us to put our hands in the air and then down to our ass, because it was going to be a long ride. He was in top shape, he sounded more "steady" than he was in Oakland...I didn't hear any wavering vocals. The powerful passages came through, even though he is now mixed way low.

ADAM was awesome. He's chill and creates some great sounds. Loved his playing on Rosetta Stoned.

JUSTIN--love how he stood in the way front while everyone was in the back. He rumbled my balls.

DANNY: so does this guy play the drums or what?

Thoughts:

Did anyone else feel like there was a glitch in the visualization system during Vicarious? I can't remember the exact section of the song, but the visualization stuck to just a plain, unmoving eye that blinked slowly and just stopped. And waited. And blinked slowly. I thought I heard the band quickly waver...and then pick up the pace very fast, and in the next section of the song, everything went back to normal. Or maybe it was my imagination.

Playing that 'Vicarious jam' (that's what the setlists say it is) before Schism was very interesting. I recognized it but its place in the setlist was unique. And duh, they went into Schism like I knew they would. (It was before Schism, right? It may have been Forty Six & 2, I dunno)

My girlfriend was so fucking excited. At her favorite parts she'd grab my leg out of pure excitement! haha, I don't know why, but even after hearing Stinkfist over forty thousand times, there's still enough excitement in it. She thought they were going to play Third Eye (she doesn't know anything about their ions/stinkfist combo) so she was freaking out during (-) ions!

The Civic Auditorium rocks. I'm so glad I didn't have to go to Oakland.

Did anyone else trip? :)

In summary, Tool is amazing in a live context.

seantanu

12-12-2007, 01:14 PM

First concert since 2002. I've loved Flood pretty much since it became the intro sound on TDN, and in the last couple years it's become my favorite. But HOLY HELL I never expected to see it live. The 2nd half of Rosetta Stoned from "Then they showed me something / I don't even know where to begin" through the intermission to Flood was too much for me. I had a couple drinks but otherwise no mind-alterants, and still I can barely remember the concert from that point on. My brain must have been like "Ok dude, you're cut off. No more awesome for you."

FLOOD! Damn. Still no believe.

Triptolemus

12-12-2007, 01:14 PM

What else can be said? My fourth show of the 10KDays tour, and this was by far the best. Others have commented on Reno, Marysville and Oakland - and how they compared. Others have also commented on how on-fire Maynard was... Danny's a god, Justin rumbled balls, Adam tranced us out... all great stuff. The bonus drum-silliness... Jello Biafra! What more can be said?

So I will comment on...

... the bar. Good god almighty the bar lines were WAY out of control. 45 minutes in line for 2 24 oz beers made me question my commitment to alcoholism. You'd think at around $1,000 profit per keg, they would have opened up a couple more bars.

And I'm sorry that, near section 310, I initiated the uproar of laughter at the poor bastard who waited no less than 45 minutes to get his beer only to walk across the corridor and spill the fucker all over the floor. It was a sad, sad moment. I watched wondering if his friend would share his beer. Disappointed, Mr. Beer Spiller received no sympathy from his friend as he attempted to suck the last few drops of beer out of his empty, pathetic plastic cup.

Also, thanks to whoever-you-were for sharing your bodacious weed which made me hallucinate during Lateralus.

Good times, good times!

enklined

12-12-2007, 01:26 PM

Let me preface by saying this was my 4th 10,000 Days show (Oakland, Friday LA show, Reno, and now SF).

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This show was awesome. The audio was great (I was 10-15 feet to the right of the sound board) and the visuals were FANTASTIC! They added some new imagery and lighting since the Reno show.

Highlights (if thats possible, as the whole show was fucking solid):

Flood - off the hook - wow! That song is awesome on the album, but even better live. Fuck...I'm still blown away.

Rosetta Stoned - Always great. That song is incredible Live.

Lateralus - "Let the drum silliness begin"-MJK. And so it was. FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC. Danny is a MACHINE on the kit. Mind blowing. Tim was great, too. Couldn't see Sebastian from TransAm all that well, and couldn't even hear his kit for the first couple minutes (was his mics off for a bit?)

The band seemed to be in a good mood and in good spirits - Everyone played hard and solid.

Also, thanks to whoever-you-were for sharing your bodacious weed which made me hallucinate during Lateralus.

You were'nt hallucinating bro, that was the awesome visuals! Haha.

GREAT FUCKING SHOW.

TOOLEYE

12-12-2007, 01:52 PM

great show....sitting seven rows up, looking down on D.C and justin....definately the best sound out of six i've seen....bill graham is definately a top notch venue with the most lax security overall also...saw cameras all over the place...D.C was a one last night, i finally got the side view i'd been trying for to be able to watch the king work his magic and it was everything i expected and more, especially when it seems you're sitting right on top of the stage. amazing how he makes it look so effortless. having my best look at the stage video screen was mindblowing...flood video was amazing..can't possibly pick out a highlight or six for that matter as the whole show was top notch...had a great time at tommy's joynt at the pre show. and by the way D.C....LET'S GO WARRIORS

musicmansf

12-12-2007, 02:32 PM

By the way...how about that fuckin brown note in Trans Am's second song??? Jesus, that was the most ridiculous bass response I've ever heard.

lockdown12

12-12-2007, 03:15 PM

Great show, good to see them again. Songs were powerful as always and they look like they're having fun with getting their buds up on stage with them and what not. Missed Trans Am, I will have to check them out later.

Re: Maynard's "improvising" on vocal lines. Two theories, one of them not mine: 1) (mine) He simply can't sing like he used to night in and night out. So he has to change some lines around, lowering high belt-out parts, etc. 2) (my better half) it is more of an unwillingness than an inability, based on him not "feeling it" and being bored, his cynicism getting the best of him.

Mindwarper

12-12-2007, 03:20 PM

This was my 7th Tool show and the 1st they have played Flood since the 98 tour. Which also had Tim Alexander on the oncore. Jello Biafra was a surprise. The whole set was fantastic. Much better sound then the Oakland show. I had a great time and I didn't see anything bad happen. It just took forever to get home because of the bridge work. I would like to see Jerk Off back in the setlist, but thats me wanting more older songs. Tim was fantastic in the drum off. I love his timbali and tom style. Very distinctive. I met him once and a party (didn't know it was him) and mentioned the 98 Tool show with Tim playing on the last two songs. He said one and I didn't understand what he meant. Later my friend asked what I was talking about with Tim. I was laughing. I was talking to Tim about Tim. Later I got a video bootleg of the show and recognized him. My vision isn't so good. I had a vague recollection of him on stage when I was talking to him. I thought it was a funny story. When I watched the tape, I realized that he and the Melvin drummer were only on Opiate, not flood as well. So I finally understood what he meant by "one". Anyway, what a great show. The intermission was a perfect time to meet my neighbors and share a bowl. To the cute female next to me with a lighter...thanks.

rayro38

12-12-2007, 03:25 PM

I saw my favorite band in my favorite city. I used to live and work in San Francisco 16 years ago. Great set last night, worth the 900 mile drive. I had far better seats thanks to the general admission tix I got. Up on the first tier, straight in front of them.

Stinkfist, 46n2, and Flood were worth the cost of the tickets alone. This was a perfect venue for Tool to play in. The sound was perfect, the visuals were off the hook. I especially liked the intro visual a few seconds before the start of Jambi, showing the Tool logo. This was my third show this year, and by far the best.

Thank you again Tool. (And please come back to Tucson ASAP, save me some gas money :)

enklined

12-12-2007, 06:02 PM

I've finally come back to reality...a bit...

Heres more:

Adam and Justin were on it. Justin is so fun to watch - he just bangs the shit outta that thing like it owes him money - fucking awesome.

Adam...damn does he ever make it look so easy. Its surreal to see him, standing up there, looking out at the crowd, and producing these magnificent and mind opening sounds so effortlessly.

When they first started this tour, I was less than thrilled with the vocals being so subdued. Honestly, I feel it's a lot better that way. I like hearing the intricities of Adam's playing and FEELING the power of Danny's drumming, coupled with experiencing the fury that is Justin.

I had the same thoughts, bro. At first, I was like...hmmm, whats up with that? I'd like MJK and/or the sound boards guys to turn it up a bit. But after a bit, I decided I liked it better how it was. Its awesome to be able to hear each individual instrument - being able to hone in on Justins bass, or DC and his drums, then come out and take the band as a whole.

Awesome.

More later, I'm sure...

godhenry

12-12-2007, 08:41 PM

my 9th or 10th show. sorta lost count. i need to check my ticket stubs. This is my 4th on this tour after Paramount, Coliseum and NYC. AND THIS WAS A GREAT FUCKING SHOW. FLOOD ROCKED MY BALLS!!

the show = 9.99/10

there is nothing that hasn't been said. this was easily the best show on this tour, although i still think the acoustics at Oakland is way better but the band wasn't as tight and the production wasn't as well developed last September. if the show last night was at the Coliseum, it would've been the shit.

Reno was still the best Tool show for me (not the one last year ;-)). can never beat hearing Third Eye with my eye on the Parabola balls floating in the air. pretty amazing. but then again, last night, FLOOD ROCKED MY BALLS!!! LATERALUS BLEW MY MIND. ROSETTA STONED WAS PERFECT!!

now here's a funny story. a couple of weeks ago, i told my friend that i had a premonition that les claypool was going to come out and jam with the band during lateralus. well, turned out tim alexander came out instead of les. i mean that's pretty damn close. ;-)

MJK was definitely in a good mood. he was probably the most sarcastic that I have seen. he did the group hug, and even (1) threw a couple of bottles of water to the crowd, and (2) waved at the audience on the balcony as he walked off the stage. I almost cried when he said "and I mean it from the bottom of my heart."

THANK YOU TOOL!!! You have once again inspired us with the kinda craziness only you can do. And you might have even helped me aced my final this morning!!!! =)

"this ground is not the rock i thought it to BEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!" \m/

junior

12-12-2007, 09:43 PM

now here's a funny story. a couple of weeks ago, i told my friend that i had a premonition that les claypool was going to come out and jam with the band during lateralus. well, turned out tim alexander came out instead of les. i mean that's pretty damn close. ;-)
/

Even closer than you think.
Les Claypool was there, and neither he nor Tim knew the other one was going to be there.

shaynes250

12-12-2007, 09:47 PM

Last night was my third Tool show and the best I've seen. My first show (Ænima/1998/San Jose, CA) left me with cotton ears for 3 days and though the music was great the environment was just not what I was prepared for. I'm not a mosh pit guy; I want to watch the show, not be part of it. The second show (10,000 Days/2006/Oakland) was awesome and as I drove home I wish I had brought my GF; the colors for the light show alone would have been worth the ticket!

To explain last night would be like trying to explain sex to a virgin, or why secular music is so much more palletable than religious music (except for, Matisyahu's “King Without a Crown”): the experience can not easily be explained in words the make sense to someone who hasn't experienced the real deal.

I brought by GF to this show and feared that her easily triggered startle reflex would make her uncomfortable, or perhaps. Every drum beat, strum of the guitar or screech from feedback could launch her from her wheelchair. My fears were unfounded, and as I should have remembered from when I first met her...never underestimate the capacity of a disabled person. She throughly enjoyed the show for the singing, playing, lights, extended songs and really good seat despite showing up right at the end of opening act Trans Am's set. She'd never been to a “rock” show (she's a country music girl) so I gave her several “hints” about the nature of a show like Tool's: VERY loud, mosh pits, smell of pot in the air, tightly packed people, etc. This was not the case Tuesday night, as sh ewas impressed with the following: Justin was rocking out 80's-hair-band style, Adam's ability to make a speaker stack squeal is amazing, Maynard danced a bit instead of hiding by Danny, and Danny with the hardest job of all was a blur of hands yet kept perfect time with arms flailing and legs pounding! To do what Danny does as easily as he makes it appear is...well you know, 'cause you're on t.d.n. The songs were played loud, hard but not faster than their studio counterparts. Everyone did his part and the audience went wild!

I think this show has opened her eyes to the world of music beyond country. Also, though I have never seen Led Zeppelin live, I state with confidence that Tool is the modern day equivalent of Led Zeppelin.

Notable highlights include: Schism had an extended middle part preceded buy a bit of the song where the tempo was accelerated (possibly doubled), Lateralus had a 3-way drumming exposition/competition/demonstration with Sebastian from Trans Am and Tim Alexander from Primus; an intermission wherein the lighting rigs right above the stage descend and point towards the audience mimicing UFOs. These UFO's provided a distraction while the band took a well deserved break.

I don't envy the life these guys live while touring but their time on stage is something everyone that should experience, regardless of music preference.

godhenry

12-12-2007, 09:56 PM

nuraman00

12-12-2007, 10:19 PM

Its awesome to be able to hear each individual instrument - being able to hone in on Justins bass, then come out and take the band as a whole.

Awesome.

What are some good bass parts? Towards the end of the show, I felt I wasn't paying enough attention to Justin, and wanted to look for a good bassy part. But I couldn't think of what part of what song I should look for.

nuraman00

12-12-2007, 10:25 PM

Notable highlights include: Schism had an extended middle part preceded buy a bit of the song where the tempo was accelerated (possibly doubled), Lateralus had a 3-way drumming exposition/competition/demonstration with Sebastian from Trans Am and Tim Alexander from Primus; an intermission wherein the lighting rigs right above the stage descend and point towards the audience mimicing UFOs. These UFO's provided a distraction while the band took a well deserved break.

Agree about those highlights.

One thing I miss from the Oakland show in 2006, is that I think nearly all of their equipment was white, during that show. I liked it.

This time, they still had the shiny white stage, but some black equipment too.

I loved being able to see the visuals for this show, compared to the Oakland show.

nuraman00

12-12-2007, 11:14 PM

They did extended stinkfist and it was great hearing everyone sing out of place.

I was one of those people at the Oakland show in 2006, lol.

But this time, I expected a jam in Stinkfist, and smiled when others sang out of place. :)

everlastingpmpkn

12-12-2007, 11:26 PM

What are some good bass parts? Towards the end of the show, I felt I wasn't paying enough attention to Justin, and wanted to look for a good bassy part. But I couldn't think of what part of what song I should look for.

breakdown in Rosetta Stoned is my favorite, visuals were awesome during this part as well

wix3l

12-12-2007, 11:32 PM

heres a pic i'll put more later

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf.jpg

nuraman00

12-12-2007, 11:33 PM

Last time I saw 10,000 Days, some idiot got on stage and ruined it for Maynard, so hearing him do it with full passion was so powerful.

Yeah, I was afraid someone was going to do that yesterday, but luckily, everyone was cool. I'm glad we got to hear both parts, it was awesome.

sprucemoose3311

12-12-2007, 11:34 PM

oh i forgot:maynard called the stage hands reject ooompa loompas.

did anyone see the big fat guy jumping around and offering hits from his pot?
i told my friend not to take it, it may give him herpes.

and yes, i sang out of place during stinkfist too... and i even knew the extended version was coming.

nuraman00

12-13-2007, 12:11 AM

So I saw at the snack bar, nachos were $6, but chips were only $2. Does that mean they charge $4 to pour nacho cheese sauce, and add some jalopenos? Lol.

musicmansf

12-13-2007, 12:19 AM

Even closer than you think.
Les Claypool was there, and neither he nor Tim knew the other one was going to be there.

Can you imagine Les Claypool jamming to Lateralus??? haha, that'd be literally a mind fuck. I would never function right again (all though I feel that way now...)

BTW, has anyone noticed our reviews for this show are positive and just really "passionate" is I guess the word I'd use. Everyone from the LA show looks like a flame war is going on. It was really weird to be at a Tool show where it felt like a community almost. It wasn't a death and kill everyone mosh pit or seating that makes you feel disconnected from the band, it was literally a concert, and it made them seem like human musicians instead of godly for once :)

Oh, and I never wanted Vicarious to end. I was so busy trying to take it all in for one final time it seemed like it was 30 seconds long.

godhenry

12-13-2007, 12:25 AM

Can you imagine Les Claypool jamming to Lateralus??? haha, that'd be literally a mind fuck. I would never function right again (all though I feel that way now...)

BTW, has anyone noticed our reviews for this show are positive and just really "passionate" is I guess the word I'd use. Everyone from the LA show looks like a flame war is going on. It was really weird to be at a Tool show where it felt like a community almost. It wasn't a death and kill everyone mosh pit or seating that makes you feel disconnected from the band, it was literally a concert, and it made them seem like human musicians instead of godly for once :)

Oh, and I never wanted Vicarious to end. I was so busy trying to take it all in for one final time it seemed like it was 30 seconds long.

the applause and cheering at the end were definitely very powerful and touching.

Triptolemus

12-13-2007, 07:54 AM

heres a pic i'll put more later

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf.jpg

if you would, please, that would be just dandy.

thanks!

Illuminus

12-13-2007, 10:20 AM

wouldn't that be something to see les claypool and justin doing their own little contest during lateralus

Mr. Claypool can get FUNKAY on a bass, I will never deny that, but Justin would eat him alive when it comes down to melody and beauty. I really believe no one in rock today can match Justin's ability to create pure heaven with a bass guitar. The tone he pulled out of his bass for Flood blew me the fuck away, it sounded just like a regular distorted guitar tone at first.

enklined

12-13-2007, 12:28 PM

Even closer than you think.
Les Claypool was there, and neither he nor Tim knew the other one was going to be there.

that's just so funny!

thank you, junior, for the tidbit. that totally put a smile on my face!!! =)

EDIT: and thank you, junior, for such a great light show. thank you the whole production crew. you guys rock!!!

Ah, I see. Is this THE Junior, which BMB mentions on the main page regarding light control (something like a caption of "Junior at the controls" for a picture)? If so, very cool to see you on this forum - I have MANY questions for you :p

What are some good bass parts? Towards the end of the show, I felt I wasn't paying enough attention to Justin, and wanted to look for a good bassy part. But I couldn't think of what part of what song I should look for.

Yea, like someone said before, Rosetta has a nice bass part in it...love that part of that song, soooo good.

But my point was that I was able to focus on one instrument at a time, and groove, then step back, and take the band in as a whole. Just fucking incredible.

I really believe no one in rock today can match Justin's ability to create pure heaven with a bass guitar. The tone he pulled out of his bass for Flood blew me the fuck away, it sounded just like a regular distorted guitar tone at first.

Yea man, Justin is the shit. I'm not sure any other bassist could hold a candle to him - the dude is awesome.

Tool is great. This concert was exactly what I needed after the Reno concert earlier this year (see Reno thread for more info).

Illuminus

12-13-2007, 01:03 PM

Ah, I see. Is this THE Junior, which BMB mentions on the main page regarding light control (something like a caption of "Junior at the controls" for a picture)? If so, very cool to see you on this forum - I have MANY questions for you :p

That would be him I'm pretty sure... I was gonna go give him props at the Idaho Center show last weekend when I saw his chair labeled "Junior." I didnt though, cuz I assumed I would get security buggin me to get away from the control area. Props Junior! It's rad to have you here posting and giving us insight :]

loventorture

12-13-2007, 02:25 PM

On the subject of Junior... those lights are freaking amazing. I loved the new hypnotizer lights during the intermission. I especially liked the red light with the spinning white circles. Whenever one of them swept by me I had an instant acid flashback. Let me know if you need to get rid of one of those after the tour is over!

BTW Junior, did Maynard really mean it when he said he would see us again soon? Is that with Tool or Puscifer?

honky

12-13-2007, 03:51 PM

Can you imagine Les Claypool jamming to Lateralus??? haha, that'd be literally a mind fuck. I would never function right again (all though I feel that way now...)

Would anyone else agree that Justin had a Les-eqsue sound/feel goin for the initial part of the jam w/ Tim? I've seen Les around 15 times and TOOL about 8 so I do have a frame of reference in style and tones from these fellows. I didn't say he was ripping him off so save all that horseshit. I thought what he played was completely appropriate. Just wondering if anyone else noticed a little change to accommodate all parties involved.

Aside from all that, I must add myself to the heap of people who felt equally stoked to hear Flood as I was. So, FLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDD!!!!!! fucking killed it. YES. Fucking YES.

For having seen this similar show/set in Oakland twice, San Diego once, New York once, and SF...and despite them all being special in their own way, this one really satisfied me more than the others, I think due to it's unique energy. Energy that you can attempt to describe and fail by explaining how much Maynard spoke to the crowd, or mention the number of guests that came out which clearly proves that they were happy and in good moods, but could only truly be known if you were there contributing to and receiving it. The energy, that is.

Thank you gentlemen! Of course we'd love to see you again, but I couldn't ask for anything more. Peace!

wix3l

12-13-2007, 04:21 PM

as promised (keep in mind these are from a camera phone)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf1.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf3.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf4.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/wix3l/toolsf5.jpg

Anaguma

12-13-2007, 04:31 PM

Mr. Claypool can get FUNKAY on a bass, I will never deny that, but Justin would eat him alive when it comes down to melody and beauty. I really believe no one in rock today can match Justin's ability to create pure heaven with a bass guitar. The tone he pulled out of his bass for Flood blew me the fuck away, it sounded just like a regular distorted guitar tone at first.

I don't think trying to compare Les's to Justin's playing is possible- they take pretty different approaches to both their playing style and feel...that's not to say that Justin can't play slap/funk, or that Les couldn't come up with a pretty melodic passage before slamming into some evil-sounding 11/8 line (just listen to "Eleven" off Sailing if you doubt that). They're each strong indivduals who have their own ways of expressing themselves on the bass.

But yeah, having them both on stage at once would be a damn fine sight to see.

As for Justin on Flood, i hadn't seen Flood live, i think, since Paul was in the band. And while Paul set the watermark, Justin frikkin' owned that song Tuesday. He played the bass on that song the way it needs to be....mean. As in "i just clobbered you on the side of your head with a brick and now i'm going to cut all your digits off with gardening shears" mean.

And yes, i'm a bass player too. Can you tell? ;)

kr580

12-13-2007, 04:58 PM

Does anyone know where I can find a show poster from this show? By the time I got to the souvenir booth they were all sold out and just had the signed copies left. I would love you forever if you have an extra one or know where I can find one. :D

Here's some pics from my junky camera phone. :) I was about 15 feet from dead center on the balcony, about 7 rows back.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9361/photo0137ko0.jpg
(The last 2 sections of the balcony on either side were taped off but they were filled before long)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5122/photo0136un7.jpg
(Waiting for Tool.)

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1888/photo0140jo2.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2792/photo0141cz2.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8981/photo0142re9.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/155/photo0143vz8.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6835/photo0144eo0.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2030/photo0145mc5.jpg

godhenry

12-13-2007, 05:17 PM

kr580

12-13-2007, 05:34 PM

printmafia.net

Thank you. Do you know if these are the ones sold at the show or reprints? Sorry for being a noob. :(

godhenry

12-13-2007, 05:42 PM

Thank you. Do you know if these are the ones sold at the show or reprints?

printmafia produced/designed the posters as they do with posters of most of the shows on this tour. So these are OEM and not aftermarket posters, if that's what you mean.

kr580

12-13-2007, 05:47 PM

printmafia produced/designed the posters as they do with posters of most of the shows on this tour. So these are OEM and not aftermarket posters, if that's what you mean.Oh, sweet. I just read the 'About' page.

Thank you very much sir!

musicmansf

12-13-2007, 05:52 PM

I don't think trying to compare Les's to Justin's playing is possible- they take pretty different approaches to both their playing style and feel...that's not to say that Justin can't play slap/funk, or that Les couldn't come up with a pretty melodic passage before slamming into some evil-sounding 11/8 line (just listen to "Eleven" off Sailing if you doubt that). They're each strong indivduals who have their own ways of expressing themselves on the bass.

But yeah, having them both on stage at once would be a damn fine sight to see.

As for Justin on Flood, i hadn't seen Flood live, i think, since Paul was in the band. And while Paul set the watermark, Justin frikkin' owned that song Tuesday. He played the bass on that song the way it needs to be....mean. As in "i just clobbered you on the side of your head with a brick and now i'm going to cut all your digits off with gardening shears" mean.

And yes, i'm a bass player too. Can you tell? ;)

Indeed, Les and Justin both are fucking awesome bass players, and I try to incorporate both thier styles into mine, but Les I think would smoke Justin off the stage ;) While I like Justin's raw fucking ownage better, Les is so talented Metallica told him he was too good when he originally tried out( why not, Metallica is just open E's...) I find some of Primus too hard to listen to sometimes...And yes, everytime I play around with a distortion the first thing I play is Flood haha, it sounds fat as shit on that Wal too!

Anyone see anyone taping during the show? I'm dying to see what it looked like from above :)

everlastingpmpkn

12-13-2007, 07:45 PM

i am not a big fan of comparing musicians in a way of "guy A is better than guy B". i don't see music as a competition, but as something abstract, something to be contributed to by artists, for everyone's added benefit and enjoyment. does that make sense? i guess in a way its like academia, i guess there's a certain amount of competition between scholars, but in the end, everyone feeds off another's work and the entire community at large is benefited by an individual's contribution.

not sure, why im getting into this so much but if i, as a bass player, DID have to compare les claypool to anyone it would be flea. both are amazing, and flea himself can write some pretty damn good melodies in addition to slapping like a mofo. i am having trouble thinking of anyone with a similar style as justin though..

just1more

12-13-2007, 08:52 PM

Everything I could say about this show has been said already. My 3rd and they just keep getting better!
It's the non-fans I want to bitch about for a moment; At every show I've been plagued by some (usually drunk) idiot who has to run his mouth and pretend he's some kind of music critic. Such as the drunkard behind me who started yelling 'play some f*ckin music!' just as the band was getting into Wings For Marie. Gawd I hate people sometimes. Well, I guess there always has to be a neanderthal or two to reinforce my misanthropic tendencies.
In my heaven Tool will play for me alone. Ok, and maybe a few others who can pass a true-fan test or something.

badisposition

12-13-2007, 11:32 PM

[ Gawd I hate people sometimes. Well, I guess there always has to be a neanderthal or two to reinforce my misanthropic tendencies.
In my heaven Tool will play for me alone. Ok, and maybe a few others who can pass a true-fan test or something.[/QUOTE]

I agree, im long time reader of these reviews but even longer time fan of TOOL (berkeley square ) '93 Some people would rather pay to hear themselves talk than to hear and connect with music in a deep meaningful way, like the idiots sitting above me , never shut up the whole show and im just " Tired of waiting............head"
Thanks Tool for alllllll the great music and poweful performances.

EastBayJ1972

12-14-2007, 12:12 AM

its seems like alot of people don't even realize how lucky we were to see Holiday in Cambodia performed,..let alone with Jello Biafra,..we were truly blessed

nuraman00

12-14-2007, 12:20 AM

nuraman00

12-14-2007, 12:29 AM

Aside from all that, I must add myself to the heap of people who felt equally stoked to hear Flood as I was. So, FLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDD!!!!!! fucking killed it. YES. Fucking YES.

For having seen this similar show/set in Oakland twice, San Diego once, New York once, and SF...and despite them all being special in their own way, this one really satisfied me more than the others, I think due to it's unique energy. Energy that you can attempt to describe and fail by explaining how much Maynard spoke to the crowd, or mention the number of guests that came out which clearly proves that they were happy and in good moods, but could only truly be known if you were there contributing to and receiving it. The energy, that is.

Thank you gentlemen! Of course we'd love to see you again, but I couldn't ask for anything more. Peace!

Agree about Flood. I had sent an email to a friend, Monday night, saying I hoped to hear something special from Undertow, just to hear what a song from that album would sound like live. Yeah I had heard "Sober" in Oakland, 2006, but I was hoping for something in addition, or different, this time.

And then they actually did it, and played Flood! Wow.

Me personally, though, that was the only song that I was a little disappointed with Maynard's vocals, they didn't sound as good. I was pleased with the way they sounded on all the other songs.

But it didn't matter, I still enjoyed Flood.

And even though honky was comparing this Tool show with others on this tour, I agree with honky in the sense that this concert satisfied me more than other concerts, in general (comparing with other bands), because everything was done at such a high level, from start to finish. And how it had a special energy.

To me, I don't know if there was a highlight, but rather everything was "one long ride". Ok, maybe Wings/10,000 days was a highlight, if anything was. Lol.

Anaguma

12-14-2007, 03:29 PM

Good post, agree.

Aye. That was the point i was trying to make with my previous post. And i bet if we got Les and Justin in the same room, and asked them who they thought was the "better" bass player, they'd point at each other.

Then they'd prolly bonk us on the head for asking such a dumb question. ;)

The more i think about it, the more i'm curious as to why Tool is so locked in to one setlist night after night. It doesn't make sense to me- i read an article that the backing screens can be programmed for different sequences. And i know for a fact that it's easy as hell to change the sequence of lighting programs (you can even save settings for a sound board, dump them on to a USB drive, take it to a different country, and upload your settings there). So why is Tool sticking with the same songs over and over?

We know Tool isn't stupid, and that there's a point to everything (even when they're not serious). I wonder, then, if this setlist has been specifically constructed to get across a common theme, message, or emotional response. I'd have to sit down and really study the songs in-depth, but, with the intermission, didn't the show kinda feel like there was an Act I and Act II to the proceedings?

That's one theory. The other is that they're just a bunch of lazy bastards. ;)

UselessPeace

12-14-2007, 10:10 PM

And i bet if we got Les and Justin in the same room, and asked them who they thought was the "better" bass player, they'd point at each other.

As would most self-respecting musician. You'd have to be a pretty big dick to point to yourself.

Minus the low levels of the vocals on some songs, the show was phenomenal. Energy was peaked, there were tight as I've seen them on this tour and it was just fantastic to see them again.

temporary sanity

12-14-2007, 11:05 PM

Wow still reeling from the show.It was my 3rd this tour and was the best.TooL was great and the venue was really cool,but what really made the show was just the great vibe of the crowd.It seemed like everyone was pretty considerate of others and in a great mood.Even the mini party in the parking garage after the show in the 3rd level down was fun even though I didn't bother starting my ride till well over an hour after the show.We weren't going anywhere for a while!
Getting in and out of S.F. was kinda a pain in the ass,but soo worth it!
I brought a Tool virgin with me and he just can't shutup about the band and the show :-) Its good to see a new true fan! Dude even bought me a tee shirt.Got home around 3 am and had to be at work at 7.I was late but fuck it it was worth it.
Heres some pics of the night from my phone cam. S.F. city hall was a trip cool building with all the lights and the xmas tree.It was kinda surreal.
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211071901ali5.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072006ali2.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072208aeu1.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072208bug6.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072209adu0.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072209bnr0.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072210abm9.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072221agw1.jpg
http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072226awu8.jpg
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http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072227bhn5.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072308azh2.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1211072323aym7.jpg
If pic links are broke let me know and I'll up them elsewhere.
Cheers all it was a Blast! Spiral Out!

banned

12-15-2007, 12:23 PM

This pic captures those green sheets of laser with the smoke through them. Loved that effect. the stage:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w311/lexiconoclast/img107.jpg

It appears I sat to the right of KR580, in the second row. This guy in between us in the front row of that section kept getting pissed at people walking by and stopping to view the show.
Great visuals during Vicarious when we got the giant web of green lasers and you couldn't see the stage anymore.
This pic is pretty close to that...
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2030/photo0145mc5.jpg
except those lasers above probably come down to fully block view of stage and floor. That was really cool to see the vast space covered. Awesome effects.

Great view of Danny. Really got to see how hard he hits. I got two words for you though....Baron Davis ;)
And Maynard was more relaxed than I've ever seen.

gnjasmkr

12-16-2007, 05:59 PM

JELLO FUCKING BIAFRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now head back home and get ready for VEGAS!!!

enklined

12-17-2007, 12:31 PM

printmafia.net

Just bought a poster from this site - $80.

How much were these at the venue? I didn't get a chance to look... Hopefully not much less, if at all.

Does anyone know where I can find a show poster from this show? By the time I got to the souvenir booth they were all sold out and just had the signed copies left.

How much were the autographed copies? If they were anywhere close to $80 that i just paid for a non-autographed poster, I'm not going to be happy :p

Wish I had gotten to the venue a bit earlier to grab a signed copy, if it wasn't too expensive. Would have been cool to get one that had additional work done by Adam, too.

gnjasmkr

12-17-2007, 02:07 PM

jdowney

12-17-2007, 04:38 PM

Just bought a poster from this site - $80.

How much were these at the venue? I didn't get a chance to look... Hopefully not much less, if at all.

How much were the autographed copies? If they were anywhere close to $80 that i just paid for a non-autographed poster, I'm not going to be happy :p

Wish I had gotten to the venue a bit earlier to grab a signed copy, if it wasn't too expensive. Would have been cool to get one that had additional work done by Adam, too.

Unsiged = $20
signed = $100
Adam Art work = $1000

Getting there earlier worked against you for the signed ones or the custom art work because they did not have them for awhile. I heard the $20 posters sold out fast, i went down during the intermission and they had the signed ones and custom artwork ones. i was debating spending the $400 for the sutom artwork then i saw they had them for $1000.

the one thing about the printmafia.net one says they are limited and signed which the $20 ones are not. so i dont know if they are signed by the band or the poster artist.

banned

12-17-2007, 07:09 PM

Unsiged = $20
signed = $100
Adam Art work = $1000

Getting there earlier worked against you for the signed ones or the custom art work because they did not have them for awhile. I heard the $20 posters sold out fast, i went down during the intermission and they had the signed ones and custom artwork ones. i was debating spending the $400 for the sutom artwork then i saw they had them for $1000.

the one thing about the printmafia.net one says they are limited and signed which the $20 ones are not. so i dont know if they are signed by the band or the poster artist.

The SF posters purchased from Print Mafia site are signed and numbered by the poster artist, not the band.

godhenry

12-18-2007, 03:02 AM

The SF posters purchased from Print Mafia site are signed and numbered by the poster artist, not the band.

so wait... they are asking for $80 because the artist signed it? i don't mean any disrespect to the artist, and i'm sure his/her art is worth it on some level, but if i wouldn't buy the poster for $100 when it was signed by the band, why would i spend $80 to buy a poster that was signed by an artist whose work i'm not entirely familiar with? i want to buy the poster strictly for its sentimental value, but the $80 asking price is kinda steep especially in light of the fact that the vegas posters only cost you $35 each. what's going on here?

MFF0RD6

12-18-2007, 07:48 AM

enklined

12-18-2007, 08:21 AM

$100 for band autographed posters? Wow did I ever fuck myself...

Well, printmafia can have my $80 I guess - The concert was awesome...

banned

12-18-2007, 08:28 AM

$100 for band autographed posters? Wow did I ever fuck myself...

Well, printmafia can have my $80 I guess - The concert was awesome...

You can email them and ask for a refund.
The worst they can do is say no.
Just be honest and tell them what you thought 'signed' meant. Especially in light of the fact that there were different 'signed' copies at the show.

In hindsight I wish I had thrown down on the $100 band signed SF poster.
Why is the artist signed SF posters more expensive than the Vegas shows.....Jello appearance, different set list? Any excuse to shake ya down...

enklined

12-18-2007, 08:38 AM

Yea, I called about 3 minutes after I purchased to confirmt hat they were signed by the band. She told me no, and then told me I could have a refund.

I'm just going to take the raping, I think. Great concert, great souvenir.

Wow, yea....Vegas' are only $35...wonder what the deal is there.

banned

12-18-2007, 08:49 AM

Holiday in Cambodia

So you been to school
For a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car
Thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl

Play ethnicky jazz
To parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin' that you know
How the ******s feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear…
Brace yourself, my dear…

It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough, kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife

You're a star-belly sneech
You suck like a leach
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch
So you can get rich
But your boss gets richer off you

Well you'll work harder
With a GUN in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers
Till you starve
Then your head is skewered on a stake

Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need, my son…
What you need, my son…

Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack

Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot,
Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot...

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul

Pol Pot!

godhenry

12-18-2007, 11:31 AM

from printmafia:

the posters are not signed by the band. Those were only available at the shows. The only unsigned by Print Mafia ones available were the $20 copies at the shows.

We print editions of 100. As they sell and the quantity available becomes smaller the price naturally increases. The San Francisco one is at $80 due to the swift sales in the first days after it became available online. We have just a few copies left and it may go to $100 by Thursday.

enklined

12-18-2007, 04:18 PM

Thanks godhenry. I figured it had something to do with supply/demand :p

Ah, anyway, we've digressed a bit. How bout that fucking concert eh? Still can't believe it. TOO GOOD. :p

godhenry

12-18-2007, 07:39 PM

Thanks godhenry. I figured it had something to do with supply/demand :p

Ah, anyway, we've digressed a bit. How bout that fucking concert eh? Still can't believe it. TOO GOOD. :p

Amen to that!

temporary sanity

12-18-2007, 09:28 PM

tededfred

12-21-2007, 08:38 AM

All righty then.... picture this quick synopsis, if you will....

On Monday night I took a red eye flight to San Francisco, slept in my little brother's dorm room at USF got drunk and lifted. Wandered SanFran all day Tuesday taking photographs of vomit and homeless and bears oh, my! Bore witness to TooL at the civic center on Tuesday night. The 12/11 show had to be one of the 3 best performances I have ever seen of the 15 shows that I have attended. TooL was amazing, FLOOD was an unexpected surprise and the crowd went nuts in response. I'm still trying to digest all that has happened over the past week. Thinking back to the SF show, my whole week blurs and races past me... Maynard asked Adam if he would introduce the next guest, Adam just stared and him bemused and shrugged his shoulders while shaking his head.... Holiday in Cambodia, with Jello.....Extended Lateralus with Tim (How many fucking bands are you in?) Alexander and Sebastian from Trans Am.... The story continues to after the show, my brother found some blotter on the floor, I couldn't eat any since I had to fly back to PHX at 9 am on Wed morning and make it to work that afternoon.... in the am I took the muni from campus to the civic center and then I took BART to the airport.... Fucking San Fransicko.....worked half of wed and all of thurs, very distracted from what had happened on Tuesday night....woke up at 5am on friday morning to hit the road that is paved with gold to Las vegas.... Picked up little brother who had flown in from San Francisco after taking his last final on thursday evening and getting an hour of sleep on top of it all, in front of the belaggio. Checked in at Rio since I missed my opportunity to grab a room at the Palms....started drinking a little....walked to the palms buzzing, vegas was just about as cold as san fran...made my way to the FLOOR with good friend Anthony (I like Hookers) G....little brother had section 302, poop.... he ducked security.... hid in the womens bathroom....and bought a wristband for $20 from one of the coolest fucking people in the history of forever....shit my pants when I found my brother on the floor standing right next to me, couldn't believe it, holy fucking shit....Justin Played Jambi wearing a big black afro.... extended stinkfist never gets old... lasers were not as good as in San fran due to the size of the pearl...sound was better than san fran but the differences were slight... got the shit rocked out of me by TooL and got the shit kicked out of me by tools on the floor...why does one find it necessary to mosh and throw yourself around during 10k days and Wings? why? just give me one decent reason.....maynard advised us to stay away from the slot machines and to make sure to not get rufied/roofied (how the fuck do you spell it?) so that we did not find ourselves in a bathtub full of ice missing a vital organ....got me a puscifer business card and Anthony got one of justin's bass picks... I'm typing this before I take a shower and go back to work, which will seem like such a let down after the past week......like I woke up in wonderland......tootles