ThirdEyeSeed
01-01-2007, 02:10 PM
Alright, this thread will most likely make me sound psychotic for those of you with a biit closed minds. I don't know if any of this has been said before and I just sound like a douche bag, or if this is something new and interesting to everyone. The end of Third Eye is bombarded with symbolism. No clue if you know this or not . . . But, I want to get on to that and skip the beginning. Then, when you read the lyrics to the beginning of the song again it'll just make sense. I'm starting at the "shrouding all the ground around me" point of the song. He's basically describing a trip while giving another meaning behind it with symbols. I hope I don't come off as a douche bag, really . . .
Shrouding all the ground around me
Is this holy crow above me.
A crow is usually like, an omen of death. Holy crow is a referance to God and how it probably was casting, not exactly a shadow, but cramped anxiety that he can't get away from. He wants answers. It's like, all these questions about God are kind of getting to his head. He can't stop thinking about them . . .
Black as holes within a memory
And blue as our new second sun.
Black is usually associated with, you know, hopelessness. Hence the goth thing, you know? This "feeling" that "God" is casting makes him feel "hopeless" like no other "hole" he's fallen into. If you're still following me, skip to the next paragraph, if you're lost a little this might help clarify; In an interview in amotion (APC), Maynard said something around the lines of "[Weak and Powerless music video] is about people feeding this hole in the middle of their psyche. They try to feed it but it just won't fill up." While I'm mentioning Amotion, he references symbolism in there so that makes me feel a little less insane for typing this all up.
Now, when he says blue as our new second sun, I'm gonna be honest and say that throws me off. I know blue is sometimes a referance to stability, so maybe (this is just really a wild guess) it's trying to say that they aren't stable. There's probably a meaning behind second sun, honestly, no idea what. It might be associated with alchemy . . . Or something; I don't know, google the damn thing. It might be a shot at our entire world, or the government, since it does say new second sun and this could be how everyone wants to be number one/the ruler. I don't know, really, this paragraph is random babble.
I stick my hand into his shadow
To pull the pieces from the sand.
Which I attempt to reassemble
To see just who I might have been.
When he says "stick my hand into his shadow", I really think he means search through the past. Not necessarily the crow's, but the past in general which has been consumed by this "crow"- this fear of "God".
I'm taking this as he wants to find the facts, not hear what he's told. He wants truth (That's a fact, check meaning of 3 Libras music video), he wants to find the genuine him. He doesn't want himself to be tainted ("shadowed") by rules, regulations, or authority. He basically is saying he's trying to figure out who he'd be if he'd never listened to authority. He wants truth, not bullshit.
NOW, this is where the interpretation seems annoyingly lengthy. If not to you, then to me. The following supports the previous symbolic interpretations:
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities—the political, the religious, the educational authorities—who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing—forming in our minds—THEIR view of reality. To think for yourself, you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.
Also, the idea that he may believe he needs to find out who he can be associated with this part of Leary's manual:
"This contrasts and compares perfectly with the chaos without. We’re living in a universe, which has one hundred billion galaxies, each galaxy with star systems, planets, a complexity, again, which to our minds right now is chaotic, incomprehensible.
Chaos is beautiful. Now many times we are afraid because we want order. We can’t deal with the confusion and disorder. We want form. We want rules. Yes, throughout human history there have been people—religious leaders, political leaders—who will give you order. They will give you rules and commandments."
I do not recognize the vessel,
But the eyes seem so familiar.
Like phosphorescent desert buttons
Singing one familiar song . . .
"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much.
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"
Alright, now, we know they've read into Timothy Leary. We know he's, at least partially, trying to reach a level of consciousness the mainstream world would label psychotic. Maynard is saying he doesn't recognize this newfoundself but it IS familiar. Maynard has been quoted as saying (I can't find out where the hell this came from though):
“I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug.”
This supports the idea that he's reached a peak he's reached before when on a psychedelic. He found this vessel, he recognizes it, it's his third eye, and it's saying it's so glad to see him again. They're reunited; but now the peak is ending and then, "Why are you running away?"
Prying open my third eye.
So good to see you once again.
I thought that you were hiding.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing the tail of dogma.
I opened my eye and there we were.
So good to see you once again
I thought that you were hiding from me.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing a trail of smoke and reason.
This is Maynard talking to the eye. Pretty straight forward . . .
[I]Prying open my third eye
Now, for a random though here. One that makes me sound 100% psychotic. But still, one that I think is fun to think about. IF Tool has reached a level of enlightenment preached by Timothy Leary, what is it? This is the last four paragraphs of Leary's Manual:
"This is the first paragraph, the first attempt, the first child’s primer in how to communicate using both the orderly left brain and the chaotic, confusing language of photons and electrons. The brain is a photovore. Your brain, my brain, our brains live on light. Just as the body needs air and carbohydrates, our brains are starved for light, for illumination, for revelation.
Use your head. Learn how to operate your brain. The brain is designed to design realities.
Marshall McCluhan made the prophecy. He told us that the aim of evolution was to use media to create what we all want: the global village, the language, which can be understood by every human being, by every brain. The basic language of humanity, the language of the brain, lights, sounds, rhythms, pulsating your bones, moving your body. We all know this language. We can all sing and dance this language of electrons, of radio waves, of rhythms.
Now we have digital communication. We can create our fantasies. We can create our rhythms, design on screen. A new language will develop, a global language, not based on letters, not based on grammars, the language which we all understand, based on clusters of waves of light and sound. We all understand. We all celebrate. We all glory in the light, the illumination, the contact, the intersection, the interaction from around the world, the language of form. We will create a language of international, global brain linkup. Anyone in any culture watching this screen will get the general picture. It’s one global village. It’s one global human spirit, one global human race. As we link up through screens, linked by electrons and photons, we will create for the first time a global humanity, not separated by words or minds or nationalities or religious biases."
(Post too long; read rest on next post.)
Shrouding all the ground around me
Is this holy crow above me.
A crow is usually like, an omen of death. Holy crow is a referance to God and how it probably was casting, not exactly a shadow, but cramped anxiety that he can't get away from. He wants answers. It's like, all these questions about God are kind of getting to his head. He can't stop thinking about them . . .
Black as holes within a memory
And blue as our new second sun.
Black is usually associated with, you know, hopelessness. Hence the goth thing, you know? This "feeling" that "God" is casting makes him feel "hopeless" like no other "hole" he's fallen into. If you're still following me, skip to the next paragraph, if you're lost a little this might help clarify; In an interview in amotion (APC), Maynard said something around the lines of "[Weak and Powerless music video] is about people feeding this hole in the middle of their psyche. They try to feed it but it just won't fill up." While I'm mentioning Amotion, he references symbolism in there so that makes me feel a little less insane for typing this all up.
Now, when he says blue as our new second sun, I'm gonna be honest and say that throws me off. I know blue is sometimes a referance to stability, so maybe (this is just really a wild guess) it's trying to say that they aren't stable. There's probably a meaning behind second sun, honestly, no idea what. It might be associated with alchemy . . . Or something; I don't know, google the damn thing. It might be a shot at our entire world, or the government, since it does say new second sun and this could be how everyone wants to be number one/the ruler. I don't know, really, this paragraph is random babble.
I stick my hand into his shadow
To pull the pieces from the sand.
Which I attempt to reassemble
To see just who I might have been.
When he says "stick my hand into his shadow", I really think he means search through the past. Not necessarily the crow's, but the past in general which has been consumed by this "crow"- this fear of "God".
I'm taking this as he wants to find the facts, not hear what he's told. He wants truth (That's a fact, check meaning of 3 Libras music video), he wants to find the genuine him. He doesn't want himself to be tainted ("shadowed") by rules, regulations, or authority. He basically is saying he's trying to figure out who he'd be if he'd never listened to authority. He wants truth, not bullshit.
NOW, this is where the interpretation seems annoyingly lengthy. If not to you, then to me. The following supports the previous symbolic interpretations:
Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities—the political, the religious, the educational authorities—who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing—forming in our minds—THEIR view of reality. To think for yourself, you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself.
Also, the idea that he may believe he needs to find out who he can be associated with this part of Leary's manual:
"This contrasts and compares perfectly with the chaos without. We’re living in a universe, which has one hundred billion galaxies, each galaxy with star systems, planets, a complexity, again, which to our minds right now is chaotic, incomprehensible.
Chaos is beautiful. Now many times we are afraid because we want order. We can’t deal with the confusion and disorder. We want form. We want rules. Yes, throughout human history there have been people—religious leaders, political leaders—who will give you order. They will give you rules and commandments."
I do not recognize the vessel,
But the eyes seem so familiar.
Like phosphorescent desert buttons
Singing one familiar song . . .
"So good to see you.
I've missed you so much.
So glad it's over.
I've missed you so much.
Came out to watch you play.
Why are you running away?"
Alright, now, we know they've read into Timothy Leary. We know he's, at least partially, trying to reach a level of consciousness the mainstream world would label psychotic. Maynard is saying he doesn't recognize this newfoundself but it IS familiar. Maynard has been quoted as saying (I can't find out where the hell this came from though):
“I think psychedelics play a major part in what we do, but having said that, I feel that if somebody's going to experiment with those things they really need to educate themselves about them. People just taking the chemicals and diving in without having any kind of preparation about what they're about to experience tend to have no frame of reference, so they're missing everything flying by and all these new perspectives. It's just a waste. They reach a little bit of spiritual enlightenment, but they end up going, 'Well, now I need that drug to get back there again.' The trick is to use the drugs once to get there, and maybe spend the next ten years trying to get back there without the drug.”
This supports the idea that he's reached a peak he's reached before when on a psychedelic. He found this vessel, he recognizes it, it's his third eye, and it's saying it's so glad to see him again. They're reunited; but now the peak is ending and then, "Why are you running away?"
Prying open my third eye.
So good to see you once again.
I thought that you were hiding.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing the tail of dogma.
I opened my eye and there we were.
So good to see you once again
I thought that you were hiding from me.
And you thought that I had run away.
Chasing a trail of smoke and reason.
This is Maynard talking to the eye. Pretty straight forward . . .
[I]Prying open my third eye
Now, for a random though here. One that makes me sound 100% psychotic. But still, one that I think is fun to think about. IF Tool has reached a level of enlightenment preached by Timothy Leary, what is it? This is the last four paragraphs of Leary's Manual:
"This is the first paragraph, the first attempt, the first child’s primer in how to communicate using both the orderly left brain and the chaotic, confusing language of photons and electrons. The brain is a photovore. Your brain, my brain, our brains live on light. Just as the body needs air and carbohydrates, our brains are starved for light, for illumination, for revelation.
Use your head. Learn how to operate your brain. The brain is designed to design realities.
Marshall McCluhan made the prophecy. He told us that the aim of evolution was to use media to create what we all want: the global village, the language, which can be understood by every human being, by every brain. The basic language of humanity, the language of the brain, lights, sounds, rhythms, pulsating your bones, moving your body. We all know this language. We can all sing and dance this language of electrons, of radio waves, of rhythms.
Now we have digital communication. We can create our fantasies. We can create our rhythms, design on screen. A new language will develop, a global language, not based on letters, not based on grammars, the language which we all understand, based on clusters of waves of light and sound. We all understand. We all celebrate. We all glory in the light, the illumination, the contact, the intersection, the interaction from around the world, the language of form. We will create a language of international, global brain linkup. Anyone in any culture watching this screen will get the general picture. It’s one global village. It’s one global human spirit, one global human race. As we link up through screens, linked by electrons and photons, we will create for the first time a global humanity, not separated by words or minds or nationalities or religious biases."
(Post too long; read rest on next post.)