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PShepherd11
11-18-2006, 11:15 AM
Does anyone hear the sound of a phone ringing twice in this song around 4:45 to 4:50?

Question
11-19-2006, 01:15 PM
wow, never noticed that before. Sounds like an old phone with an actual bell ringing.

PShepherd11
11-20-2006, 08:57 AM
Good, I'm not just hearing things then. ;)

opiated
11-24-2006, 07:10 PM
I've always thought it was an alarm clock.

DON IOTAE
01-13-2007, 07:08 AM
Does anyone hear the sound of a phone ringing twice in this song around 4:45 to 4:50?

YES!

and you know, it sounds just like the Vicarious opener...

any thoughts?

vicarious, opiate... vicarious, opiate...

mr. nikki jensen
01-13-2007, 11:20 AM
never noticed that before now.

resonance.
01-13-2007, 11:24 AM
check the f.a.q guys

PShepherd11
01-13-2007, 01:15 PM
I was just curious about whether or not people noticed it, not whether they had read the FAQ to find out about it.

DON IOTAE
01-13-2007, 10:31 PM
the FAQ of the forum?

ok...

DON IOTAE
01-13-2007, 10:34 PM
"the band's just tooling around with me"?

i dont buy it.

there must be some reason why it's also present in Vicarious...

PShepherd11
01-14-2007, 06:25 AM
I think they're just being funny. I haven't noticed it in Vicarious, though. Where in the song does that occur?

DON IOTAE
01-14-2007, 08:38 AM
^ At the very beginning, dude! Right before Danny comes in....

Polish_Rides_The_Spiral
01-30-2007, 02:30 PM
NICE CALL! thats a sweet catch man i wish i saw it. great song btw, one of my favorites on this album (cant deny jerkoff)

satchel
02-01-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't hear it.

DON IOTAE
02-02-2007, 08:09 AM
it's there, behind all the drumming...

Mattywasaracecardriver
03-08-2007, 11:58 AM
i definately both of the tingalingaling type sounds in both Opiate and Vicarious. same sound, i dont know if there would be a specific link to the use of the sound however, i think its just quite a cool sound to build an intro to a song, or something like that.

(hiya Priti) :)

PShepherd11
03-08-2007, 12:13 PM
^ Hi Matty. What is that picture on your avatar?

DON IOTAE
03-08-2007, 07:52 PM
more opinions on the phone ring?

PShepherd11
03-09-2007, 10:11 AM
Iota, can you give me the time at which you hear that sound in Vicarious? I didn't hear it.

rembrandt_q_einstein
03-09-2007, 09:28 PM
check the f.a.q guys

my thoughts exactly

DON IOTAE
03-10-2007, 11:27 AM
PShep herd11, its at the very beginning, before the song starts jammin!

Mattywasaracecardriver
03-10-2007, 01:48 PM
my avatar is Aughra, From the Dark Crystal. by Jim Henson i think.

The best movie of my childhood, and i still love it now. one of the best pure, good versus evil movies ever made in my opinion. all puppetry and figures.

i hear the phone ringing twice in Vicarious, it does it both times within the first minutes or so, maybe two.

DON IOTAE
03-10-2007, 03:47 PM
^ hey, my childhood movie that i still love is "The return to Oz"

FYi.

Arkham Asylum
03-12-2007, 06:22 PM
Maybe Tool is just late for class.

TARDY SLIPS ALL AROUND

DON IOTAE
03-12-2007, 08:50 PM
f0k.

paravariations
03-23-2007, 05:52 PM
I always heard the ringing sound in Opiate, but never really payed any attention to it.

PShepherd11
04-04-2007, 01:47 PM
PShep herd11, its at the very beginning, before the song starts jammin!

LOL...I finally heard it as I was falling asleep and not paying attention. It doesn't stand out as much as in Opiate, like I wouldn't mistake it for a phone ringing if I had the volume up really loud. Opiate tricked me the first time I heard it.

DON IOTAE
04-04-2007, 04:46 PM
;)

Stoned Immaculate
04-07-2007, 10:09 PM
I always thought it was sort of an homage to Led Zeppelin. In the song The Ocean there is also a phone that rings in the bg.

DON IOTAE
04-08-2007, 05:23 AM
no shit.

i gotta get more into old rock and metal.

I just recently started listening to Yes.

HelenA
04-08-2007, 05:38 AM
^ hey, my childhood movie that i still love is "The return to Oz"

FYi.

Gotta love Jack - the Pumpkin King


and

The Wheelies - although they were scary.

(Edit: we hate the wheelies actually - yeah for tick tock)

DON IOTAE
04-08-2007, 07:46 AM
that movie was so fucking awesome. it really is spooky and cool and true fantasy, as opposed to most of that Disney shit we get.

Arson
04-08-2007, 08:22 AM
The sound in the vicarious intro is just Danny rolling on an ice bell/mandala sample.

Clutch_The_Cornerstone
04-08-2007, 08:47 AM
^ hey, my childhood movie that i still love is "The return to Oz"

FYi.

that movie was discontinued right? i love that movie myself but i cant find it anywhere...

DON IOTAE
04-08-2007, 08:50 AM
it came out recently on DVD

Return to Oz (http://www.amazon.com/Return-Oz-Fairuza-Balk/dp/B0000DZ3EN/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4116336-0783852?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1176051243&sr=1-1)

HelenA
04-08-2007, 03:34 PM
Have you seen The Labrynth. Its along the same lines.

DON IOTAE
04-08-2007, 03:37 PM
no, i haven't.

link?

HelenA
04-08-2007, 03:50 PM
Oops - spelt Labyrinth Wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_(film))

DON IOTAE
04-09-2007, 06:12 AM
weird.

so what's the correct spelling?

HelenA
04-09-2007, 06:45 AM
Labyrinth

DON IOTAE
04-09-2007, 06:53 AM
RLY?

i thought it was the other one.

HelenA
04-09-2007, 06:59 AM
RLY?

i thought it was the other one.

Don't confuse me Iota - you know it doesn't take much!

DON IOTAE
04-09-2007, 07:26 AM
lol

it's ok to be confused. it's the 21st century.

Eulogy33
05-31-2007, 04:47 PM
yea..its a phone.

Ghostwriter
06-29-2007, 11:02 AM
Does anyone hear the sound of a phone ringing twice in this song around 4:45 to 4:50?

It is a fact that they put that there intentionally to confuse us. Tool likes to fool around with our minds.

PShepherd11
06-29-2007, 11:44 AM
I know. I just wanted to know if anyone else heard it without having to read the FAQ first.

Bhikkhu
07-24-2007, 11:39 AM
I think I know why the phone also rings in Vicarious. The meaning of it is that TV is also, like religion, an "opiate for the masses/people/society". Honestly, how many people in western society ever live for a week or even a day without TV.
Personally, I try to watch as less TV as possible and try to live my own life and make it interesting without TV, although I do watch movies, but mostly on my computer.

DON IOTAE
07-24-2007, 04:03 PM
i think you're on to something here. Yes. TV and religion as opiates. Of course.

The Red Yehti
07-24-2007, 07:18 PM
I think I know why the phone also rings in Vicarious. The meaning of it is that TV is also, like religion, an "opiate for the masses/people/society". Honestly, how many people in western society ever live for a week or even a day without TV.
Personally, I try to watch as less TV as possible and try to live my own life and make it interesting without TV, although I do watch movies, but mostly on my computer.

You feel watching movies on your computer screen is somehow different from watching them on a TV screen?
You need help dude.

PShepherd11
07-24-2007, 07:20 PM
I don't have cable service, we have no channels at all. We are definitely in the minority. People think we're crazy for this, but I think we're better off.

DON IOTAE
07-25-2007, 05:06 AM
You feel watching movies on your computer screen is somehow different from watching them on a TV screen?
You need help dude.

the experience is definitely different. Watching TV, you can spend hours just zapping through... whereas movies, you either watch the whole movie or find something better to do...

Bhikkhu
07-25-2007, 01:40 PM
You feel watching movies on your computer screen is somehow different from watching them on a TV screen?
You need help dude.

Well, when I try to watch a movie on TV, there are all these stupid commercials in between. Personally, I'd rather call them propaganda, because these commercials do in fact give us a false view of reality. For example; usually in commercials, the people are more attractive or good-looking than the avarage people you see walking on the street, so that the commercial looks nice.
Now what Tool tries to tell us, I think, is that ugly people are just as important as good-looking people. Nobody can say they're better than someone else. People tend to ignore ugly people or not view them as people. Maybe that's one of the reasons they show this picture of an extremely obesed woman in the Undertow booklet.

So, it is different...!!!

p.s...sorry for these long stories, but I guess I like writing about this stuff.

gjamison27
09-12-2007, 10:04 AM
The phone in Opiate to me says...."God is calling". Danny's drumming being the voice of God in this particular instance and the phone being...well....the call...

How that would relate to Vicarious...I'd have to call God to find out...

Its actually how Tool attains more longetivity for their albums. They put stuff like this in it so you always think the phone is ringing and immediately turn the music down. Then the phone stops ringing so you turn it back up and so on. This way, Tool gets to take plenty of time off because after 2 or 3 years most people still haven't gotten to the end of the record. By the way, has anyone heard the tracks after Opiate? My stupid phone keeps ringing!

On a serious note, I know a guy that returned 23 record players to Sears before he realized that Useful Idiot was an actual track. He fell in love with 46&2 when he finally heard it last week.

PShepherd11
09-13-2007, 10:16 AM
On a serious note, I know a guy that returned 23 record players to Sears before he realized that Useful Idiot was an actual track. He fell in love with 46&2 when he finally heard it last week.

That guy's an idiot.

DON IOTAE
09-13-2007, 11:35 AM
where the fuck have you been?

hi, ps

Ghostwriter
09-13-2007, 01:56 PM
The phone in Opiate to me says...."God is calling". Danny's drumming being the voice of God in this particular instance and the phone being...well....the call...

How that would relate to Vicarious...I'd have to call God to find out...

Its actually how Tool attains more longetivity for their albums. They put stuff like this in it so you always think the phone is ringing and immediately turn the music down. Then the phone stops ringing so you turn it back up and so on. This way, Tool gets to take plenty of time off because after 2 or 3 years most people still haven't gotten to the end of the record. By the way, has anyone heard the tracks after Opiate? My stupid phone keeps ringing!

On a serious note, I know a guy that returned 23 record players to Sears before he realized that Useful Idiot was an actual track. He fell in love with 46&2 when he finally heard it last week.

No offense you guys, but the phone thing was a gag! Tool imagined it would be so funny if you put on some headphones and sat down to relax while listening to Opiate then all of a sudden you think you hear the phone ringing and you leap up, throw off the headphones, and dash to the phone. Cumon you guys!

PShepherd11
09-13-2007, 06:17 PM
Don't be an ass. When I started this thread, I knew they did it to fuck with people. I know it's in the FAQ. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE NOTICED IT.

Hi Iota. I haven't had much time to sign onto here lately. How's the baby?

gjamison27
09-14-2007, 06:12 AM
No really, it is God calling. He wanted to say hello and see if he could do a cameo on the album. Maynard told him he was a little upset with him since they haven't talked in like 2000 years. God was sorry but said he has his reasons, etc. So Maynard told him that he happened to call as they were recording so the best he could do is put the ringing from his call on during the song, but that was it. God was like, well, that's cool I guess, I'd appreciate it, I'm a huge fan. He then asked how Satan was doing and they played catch up for about 6 minutes or so and there you have it.

Now you cumon...

DON IOTAE
09-14-2007, 12:16 PM
baby's great. check out the 730 thread for a pic...