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swaps
11-15-2006, 12:06 PM
SETLIST --

Stinkfist
Swamp Song
Jambi
Schism
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
The Pot
Wings For Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema

*DO NOT POST IF YOU WERE NOT AT THE SHOW!

theescapedslave
11-27-2006, 03:59 PM
Stinkfist (otrm)
Swamp Song
Jambi
Schism (sped up)
Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
The Pot
intermission
Wings For Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus
Vicarious
Aenima

High points - Swamp Song - fucking perfect...kills Sober anyday.....Wings.....Lateralus as per usual....Vicarious was the tightest I've ever heard it.

Great sound.....great night...sleep

gatho
11-27-2006, 04:15 PM
yeah that was the best show ive seen by tool, in fact the best concert ive ever been to.

to start off the night, i was standing by the merch stand and i had already waited for 15 minutes to get to the front of the que so i was about to pay for my tshirts and stuff and i turn around and justin is standing just behind the merch stand amongst all the fans, just him and some guy and he was talking and looking at the merch, and it seemed that i was the only person who actually noticed who he was. all these fans were walking past him and bumping into him and they had no idea who he was, which was quite funny.
so, mastodon. i dont remember their set but it was wicked. sound was a bit bad, too much bass but during the last song, hearts alive, danny was chilling at the side of the stage nodding his head along to the music which was cool.
hearing swamp song live for the first time was amazing for me, i got really into that song, but apparently they played pushit during soundcheck so i was disappointed not to hear that. but overall the sound was incredible. from the front just on the left hand side i could hear every single note that was played. which for me was a first at a metal gig, the sound is never ever that good. did anyone hear the borat joke at the end? yeah that was quality. and the borat themesong played after the show. tool have a good sense of humour. also adam seemed to be getting really into it, well more than the other shows ive seen them play at. and justin was going crazy. danny also had his snare taken away after stinkfist and my friend who was seated just next to the stage said that he had to play the whole song using a tom instead of his snare.
one thing which really got on my nerves though was the security. it was good that they stopped people smoking because i guess the band really didnt want people to smoke, and maynard seemed in good spirits during the show, im guessing its because of that, but when moshpits broke out the security would go out in groups of about 15 and haul out people just having a good time and jumping around. that was really irritating. but it didnt really affect me that much.
whatever, best show ever i think.
cant wait till they come back in the summer (different setlist....fingers crossed)

christo_walkero
11-27-2006, 04:39 PM
Amazing. Wiped the floor with Hammersmith and Download, that was my fourth time seeing Tool this year and I am seeing them in Nottingham on Friday too!

Amazingly amazing, Wings/10K were my highlights. The laser show rocked!

Surrey Tool
11-27-2006, 04:49 PM
Great show, but Dublin was just a margin better. Sound was very good for an arena but the Point sound and crowd give it a slight edge. Was cool to hear Swamp Song for the first time!

yac03
11-27-2006, 04:59 PM
Sound checked pushit. Would like to think that the spring/summer '07 leg will yield some of the other gems they've been rehearsing: The Grudge, Eulogy etc...Good show nonetheless.

Aemima
11-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Fantastic show, definately better than Hammersmith.

Sound was brilliant, quite surprised as it was awful last time i was there...

misanthrope_13
11-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Wow! What can I say?!

Maynard walked out wearing the bright orange zip up Puscifer hoody (not seen that before) which came off towards the end of Stinkfist.

But anyways, point of this bulletin was mostly about Wings/10,000 days. I have forever been an Atheist, yes I know I will get a lot of complaints and whines from this, but after seeing that live really has made me feel slightly Agnostic. Yes, Maynards lyrics are extremely powerful and thoughtful, almost as if he is believing in the God, I cannot tell. I do not know exactly his thoughts. Though it did not change my mind.

But the lyrics do mean a lot to me, and I have some relation to them, but it never made me feel any different towards God, but after actually seeing the wings/10k days performace has opened my eyes. Now i'll expect for all the sarcatic cunty comments now, but never in my life have I ever seen a song played with some much passion and feeling. It was almost as if, well for me 'God' was in the room. It was just so, perfect and passionate.

Blah, im quite pissed at the moment, i'll explain how im feeling proplerly tomorrow.

Maynadisms I can remember, he wasn't too sociable tonight:

"Maynard Keenan, Carey - Irish
Jones: Welsh
Chancellor: British" *cheer* Or something along those lines

"Always a pleasure, never a chore. See you in Summer"


Also, I could have sworn new Vicarious video parts were being played?

I also thought I had heard Pushit at Soundcheck, but was to hear clearly.....


Bring on Thursday and Friday \m/

Peace out!

acraig
11-27-2006, 05:07 PM
What a great show: Maynard's voice was on much better form than the Hammersmith gig I went to and they played Swamp Song!!! I didn't spot the Borat reference though - anyone get it?
Also, I want to defend the Security here as, clearly, they are given instructions by the band as to how to behave, and if they don't follow them to the letter we wouldn't get to see Tool anymore. It's well known that Maynard hates flash photography so that's why anyone taking pics/vids had a light shone in their camera.
But hey, who cares when Tool were so good!

Catch33
11-27-2006, 05:20 PM
just got back. amazing show, i'm guna go as far as to say tonight was *even* better than at Ahoy, NL just a few weeks ago.. and thats just down the track from Amsterdam Centraal for fucks sake!! The production tonight was vast, the sound was great, and if you don't agree, fucking well stop moaning and learn to stand somewhere decent.

Loads to say about tonight, but I blatantly won't get around to it..


"this jacket is NAAAT black!"

Right_In_Two24
11-27-2006, 05:46 PM
Just arrived back from the gig, won't be able to get to sleep for a while! What can i say? This was my first Tool gig, and it was everything I thought it would be, and more so.

The setlist was near perfect, Stinkfist is the quintessential opener to a Tool concert. Swamp Song and Jambi rocked the arena to the ground, Schism was improvised and sounded awesome. The Pot was a big crowd pleaser, wasn't crazy about it before but I am now. Lost Keys/Rosetta was

Then came the highlights, Wings for Marie/10,000 days was something else. The raw emotion in those songs was incredibly moving. The lasers began at this point, was a very nice touch

My personal highlight has got to be Lateralus. My favourite Tool song, and one of my favourite songs ever. It touched my very core. The last 2 minutes were simply stunning.

Vicarious sounded tight, terrific live performance of the song.

Aenema was an erupting finale, loud as hell. Great ending.

Maynard said see you next summer, I'll sure as hell be there.

Rav
11-27-2006, 05:46 PM
What a night, great set, great atmosphere. I preferred the Hammersmith gigs though.

Security flashing the lights was annoying but the fact is they were mainly doing it to stop people smoking. When some cunt in front of me lit up a joint and blew all the smoke into the face of the guy next to me, he deserved to be chucked out. Especially since the poor bloke had an asthma attack and when security turned up they thought it was him that had been smoking. Not cool.

46h2
11-27-2006, 06:51 PM
really really great show.. great gig.. the greatest i've seen so far.. by tool or any other bands.. it was a really complete gig.. not only was the music perfect, the visuals/lights were flawless.. what to say, it's tool

i missed mastodon coz of arriving late.. duno if they're good or not.. but simply tool's set is enough for me.. starting off with stinkfist, the most famous tool's in clubs, the whole crowd has already get hyped.. like how maynard's jacket glow in the UV (is it?) light.. i also like the extension in between second chorus and final bit.. is it the OTR mix? sounds awesome to me

swampsong.. fucking well done tonight.. another flawless piece.. i actually think it's done better than sober live.. coz (maybe i'm wrong) maynard had a hard time hitting the high note for sober (WHY can we not be sober?) in the last gig in hammersmith.. and i'm not sure why they chose this particular track from undertow.. hmm.. they're probably sending out some hidden messages......

next comes the first greeting from the host of tonight's show, maynard..
"Good evening! I have a good news and a bad news. I'll start with the good news
Good news is:
Danny Carey, Maynard Keenan -- Irish
Adam Jones -- Welsh (my welsh mate cheered for that :))
and Justin Chancellor -- English
And the bad news is: there is no bad news."

Right where the intro of Jambi comes in.. this bit is fucking great.. the impact of the intro just comes in right on time.. fucking great.. and love the lights that flash according to the beat Adam is playing during the intro.. other than that, another piece well done.. and yeah i forgot to mention maynard's voice is so much better this time round.. particularly noticeable in jambi.. as i can actually hear the words he's singing..

next up is the ol' time classic Schism, for me, it kind of loses its impact on me this time round compared to last time in hammersmith.. but it's still good.. one thing good for schism this time, is (of course) the voice again.. loud and clear.. two things: i like how maynard kind of adds the backup vocals during "cold silence has..." it could or could not be backup vocals.. but it sounded amazing.. good job there.. and i like two bars of the extension bit when the bass just plays single note for two bars.. i notice the difference and i loved it.. (duno if u guys know what i mean)

hoho.. lost keys/rosetta stoned... my favourite track on 10,000 days.. lost keys was quite good.. but i think Justin had some hard time with the effects.. as the delay was a bit longer than expected i think.. and noticing that Justin kind of screwed up, Adam was a bit panicky i think.. he got one/two notes wrong.. haha quite funny.. rosetta stoned.. quite well done i think, compared to the previous reviews i read for rosetta stoned.. the only part i'll like to mention is the first "rap" verse (10 to 2am, DMT, X...) ended up shorter than the original track.. but the band still carried on, nice work.. and maynard didn't chant the "holy fucking shit" for 8 times!! (one of my favourite bit in this song) other than that... fucking great.. just like the part "Overwhelmed as one could be..." amazing lines/tunes..

here comes a short instrumental.. the drum beat.. if u listen closely, i really thought they were gonna play Third EYE!! which would've been fucking great!! should've played that.. but, it actually leads to......
the pot, i'd say the most poppy song in 10,000 days, nevertheless it's still great.. and congrats on getting no.1 in billboard for two weeks.. Tool really deserve it.. 10,000 Days should be on no.1 album chart for a month or more! for this song, i only like the part "weeping shades of indigo, shed without a reason.." that's the highlight.. of the song.. which is nicely done.. other than that, like the ending bit.. one of the greatest ending since schism.. wish i can feel the 'umph!' when i play the ending on my guitar but just doesn't feel right without the bass and drum..

then there comes the intermission.. wish they'd have played Intermission (from Aenima).. could've fit.. like the part when Justin put up his lighters.. some interaction.. as maynard's not keen on making jokes tonight..

starting off second part with wings/10,000 days, awesome is all i have to say.. with the huge blank backdrop never used up until now, the artwork of Alex Grey suddenly show up in the middle of the song.. GREAT! and the factor that dominates this song..... the introduction of the green lasers... this is the "visual" part of tonight.. wouldn't have been a complete show without the lasers.. fucking awesome.. from this song, u can see clearly, that Tool is on fire this time round.. they're up to their fullest this time.. and no mistake in this song.. and yes, like the part where Maynard sings "Give me my wings.." awesome

after this song ends, i was satisfied.. i feel like the money i've paid for, i've got it back.. so i wasn't really listening the last three songs.. still hypnotized by wings/10,000days.. but lateralus was great.. like the part where they use different effect, instead of drum, in the beginning before the guitar intro comes in.. and also, what i like about lateralus this time round, is that the bass doesn't slow down tooooooo much after "reaching out to embrace whatever may come!" (if u know what i mean).. coz i notice in past live shows, Justin slows down a lot in that part.. including the one in Hammersmith Apollo.. well, nicely done again.. coz doing lateralus is probably like breathing air for Tool now..

Vicarious is nicely done.. tho, i dun really like it when Maynard passed the mic the crowd instead of him singing the last chorus.. but i guess there's some limit to his voice too.. needs some rest.. the notes are fucking high for the last chorus.. they've used the green lasers throughout this song as well.. but the impact is just not there already.. well, given the equipment, Tool would've said that's the best they can come up with.. but hehe, i'm just a consumer, being fussy here,.. :P

Aenema.. no comments.. another perfect piece.. it's like doing lateralus.. easy..

Tool didn't play 46&2 or H. tonight.. two of my favourite Tool's songs.. but it's still a great show.. for me, Wings for Marie and 10,000 Days are the highlights for tonight's show.. overall, Maynard is in good condition altho he didn't talk much.. which is fine for me.. i'd rather see Maynard singing.. Adam is definitely more involved this time.. the sound of guitar is more prominent.. Justin is as skillful as usual, like it when he does his headbanging.. the quiet man, Danny Carey, as important as usual.. the drumming is more subtle this time.. which is great because it was definitely toooo loud in hammersmith.. and also, like the guys walking around in lab coats.. haha.. looks like they're doing an experiment on Tool, as they are the lab rats..

oh well, enough said.. Good night, all Tool fans..

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 12:54 AM
got in from the show at 1:30 this morning and i was so hyped i think i eventually got about 2 hours sleep before having to get up for work. fantasic show. i couldn't believe it when they peeled out the opening to swamp song. didn't think we'd get that. every song was just superb. and they played the pot which i didn't get to see last time. had a pretty good view down on the floor about 30ft back. wings and 10,000 days were just incredible. definately a highlight. great visuals and weren't the lasers pretty? superb musicianship (as usual) and the concert seemed to last longer than i expected. the sound quality was incredible too. given that it took 4 songs for muse's sound guy to sort it out into something approaching listenable, the sound (and volume) were perfect right from the first note. there was a fantastic atmosphere in the crowd toosomone was complaining about ticket prices in the manchester thread - well i certainly feel i got my money's worth tonight.

despite the fact that the hammersmith show i went to was incredible, i think this just beats it. i hate wembley as a venue but playing there meant we got the big stage show and i'm far more intimately connected to the songs from 10,000 days now than back in june.

mastadon (who i didn't know) were actually pretty good too which was a bonus. i'll be checking out some of their albums (although i would rather have seen isis supporting).

the one downside was the guy standing in front of me who was out his fucking head. he was throwing himself around like a fucking lunaic which i didn't mind until he started elbowing me in the stomach 4th time it happened i grabbed him and threw him as far away from me as i could he turned around and i think, even in his drug addled state, he could tell i was pretty pissed at him. to the guy's credit, he came up to me put his arm around me and when i told him what he'd been doing apologised to me and said he wouldn't do it again, which he didn't. when the lights came out he actually came up to me and apologised again and said he hoped i hadn't spoilt my enjoyment of tool and even though he was completely off his tits he really did seem concerned he might have marred my enjoyment of tool so i gave him a hug and told him it was ok as he'd apologised and hadn't elbowed me any more. so cheers mad drug guy!

Soundjunkie
11-28-2006, 12:56 AM
Best concert ever. Mastodon’s mix was shit. It was basically a wall of bass blowing my ears to shit, which is a pity because I really like their new album blood mountain.
Tool on the other hand was perfect. A lot of the visuals in the pot and vicarious are on the chet zar dvd. You can order it off his web site and its really awesome. Wings was an amazing spectacle and the moment where the song really kicks in and the back drop was revealed was the most amazing part of the night.
I was also really digging the intros they did for most songs. I also have to say that Justin is amazing. The whole night he was just giving it every thing. Did any one else notice him in Ænima? He looked like he was about to exploding.
Before Ænima Maynard said "there you have it, always a pleasure, never a choir, see you all next summer" I am 99% sure he said that.

Xethmir
11-28-2006, 12:56 AM
Gutted I stood where I did (1/3 back to the left of stage) cos it sounds like sound quality was better elsewhere! Having said that there seemed to be a lot of rocking out in my general vicinity - espec. the guy in a red top who was totally hyped already before the show, and a girl with some cool piercings who was trancing out almost as much as me - haha.

Hammersmith was a cleaner show overall for me - everything sounded just right, and so clear. Guys seemed tighter there too but it was nice to hear some crazy new slants on their songs last night.

Shame they didn't play more of their old stuff last night - Eulogy, H, 46&2 (which I was so looking forward to), but really glad they played Aenema.

Lateralus sounded more powerful than other gigs. Laser show was just intense - I think everyone in the audience was just taken aback when they start going all over the show (they bounced from back to front to side and created a web of green bars in the sky)!

Loved the Maynard comments as always.

slipthru
11-28-2006, 01:10 AM
This gig was too good, definitely one my favs, the lasers were kool the sound was great, and tool were great. Lateralus and aenima were my favs. But all the songs were played well tonight. Hope they come back next summer like they said.

Rav
11-28-2006, 01:14 AM
The gig was marred for me by one thing only...the train home.

I was sitting next to two girls and guy. The guy loudly exclaimed that Rosetta Stoned went on for too long, was boring and he didn't know what it was about.

He then said Wings/10,000 Days was his favourite....how does that work? Those two are much longer than Rosetta Stoned. Twat.

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 01:23 AM
Gutted I stood where I did (1/3 back to the left of stage) cos it sounds like sound quality was better elsewhere! Having said that there seemed to be a lot of rocking out in my general vicinity - espec. the guy in a red top who was totally hyped already before the show, and a girl with some cool piercings who was trancing out almost as much as me - haha.

Hammersmith was a cleaner show overall for me - everything sounded just right, and so clear.

i was right in the middle of the stage and the sound quality was superb. overall the sound probably was better at hammersmith but given that wembley arena is such a bad venue acoustically this is the best and clearest sound i have ever heard here, the only group coming close to getting the clarity tool achieved that i have seen there was rush.

ment to mention before how much i enjoyed the merkaba jam just before lateralus too!

The gig was marred for me by one thing only...the train home.

I was sitting next to two girls and guy. The guy loudly exclaimed that Rosetta Stoned went on for too long, was boring and he didn't know what it was about.

He then said Wings/10,000 Days was his favourite....how does that work? Those two are much longer than Rosetta Stoned. Twat.

all you can do is ignore people like that. lost keys is far better than on record and rosetta stoned is a blast. proves tool have a sense of humour!

Sandbox Magician
11-28-2006, 02:30 AM
In from Wembley late, 4 hours sleep, back to work again. >_<

Fuck, it was a great gig though. I say, great, since several factors kinda put a dampner on things to stop it ascending to the awe inspiring level.

- Wembley. Shit venue. Shit sound. Shit location.

- Mastodon. Missed the first song. I was really, really looking forward to seeing the 'Don live and whilst the band were tight as arseholes, the sound was fucking atroicuous. Way, way too bottom heavy, with no mids at all, so it was pretty much less crushing riffage that we'd come to expect, with the the drum and bass completely dominating the sound.

- No Blood & Thunder. No, the band aren't a jukebox, I know, but I really wanted to hear this live and they didn't play it. Boo.

- The people. Far too many wankers there tonight. No consideration for others. I mean, why the fuck do some people go to a gig, only to hold their phone up throughout. Am I missing something here?

- The people. Again. Following on, the pushing past and general rudeness. No apologies, just batter through like your the only that matters. Pricks. My cousin nearly ended up punching the shit out of some bloke, who barged right past his fiancee without so much as an apology, nearly knocking her on her arse.

- This is the fourth time I've seen Tool now and I felt on a couple occassions, they were kinda going through the motions, little bit lax here and there. MJK was singing double-time it seemed during 'Rosetta Stoned'.

Now for the good...

- Wings/10,000 Days. This single-handedly elevated the gig status for me. Absolutely incredible live, coupled with the spectacular laser show that goes with it and you can't go wrong with such a superb piece of music.

- Swamp Song. Haven't heard this one in a while before tonight, but fuck me, it sounded fantastic.

- Lateralus. Still (for me) the best live Tool song I've heard! It works on both levels so well and *that* gong Danny Carey uses, fuck me, it's LOUD!!1!1!


Great gig, not their best though, IMO. I don't think they've quite topped the first time they came over on the 'Lateralus' tour for me.

Teaboy
11-28-2006, 02:40 AM
I sat outside on the stairs and wrote a huge post on my phone, but then my GPRS cut out and I got logged out and my post was lost. Now my memory's not as fresh *_*

Anyway, Mastodon were a pretty cool band but their mix sounded fucking awful. Nonetheless I'll have to check them out!

Did anyone notice Danny fucking up a few times? I found that odd! But in general the whole set was pretty good. 10,000 days was amazing, I got goosebumps during the 'what they gonna do when the lights go down?' bit. Lateralus and the extended Stinkfist and were also top notch. Jambi and Vicarious sounded really good too. Actually, I can't think of one song that didn't sound good.

I too thought they were going to play Third Eye when they played the pot. I'm sure they were playing the intro ambience from Salival.

Compared to Hammersmith the crowd were far more annoying. In Hammersmith it was like everyone was stoned before they got there, so everyone just stood still and enjoyed the show. At Wembley it was like a punk/thrash gig for the last half hour. I had these guys behind me trying to start a mosh pit. They kept pushing me into this poor girl in front of me. At least her hair smelt nice. And apparently I kept laughing at random :D That must have been the pot fumes in the air.

Afterwards I lost my friend and was walking around outside for about 2 hours! I found her at 1am in Baker Street waiting for a Circle Line train (that had stopped running an hour earlier, clever that). Then we got a cab.

Hi to the friendly New Zealand people if you read this!

Pablo
11-28-2006, 02:45 AM
Xethmir - good points on sound comparisons from Hammersmith to Wembley - agree completely.

Sandbox Magician - more good points on some of the obnoxious twats barging blindly through people - why can't people be considerate to others and be aware of how much space they take up in this world? I guess every band has it's fair share of idiot-fans. And again re: "great gig, but not their best.".

Wings For Marie / 10,000 Days was a highlight for me as was Swamp Song (though personally I love Flood more!).

About my 14th Tool show in 13 years, and I still love them, but I'm hoping we'll get more than a T in the Park / V2007 festival set from them next year...fingers crossed and bye for now.

Sandbox Magician
11-28-2006, 02:52 AM
The idiot-fans seemed to conglomerate more-so at this one, than any other Tool show I've been too, which really irked me.

The one thing I hate about Wembley is the lack of floor-slope ala' Brixton/Hammersmith, so you get some big people in-front, your stuffed and can't see 'owt.

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 02:54 AM
- The people. Again. Following on, the pushing past and general rudeness. No apologies, just batter through like your the only that matters. Pricks. My cousin nearly ended up punching the shit out of some bloke, who barged right past his fiancee without so much as an apology, nearly knocking her on her arse.


unfortunately this always seems to happen at wembley. most people that squeezed by me did actually say thank you but there are always some ignorant fuckers.

gyee
11-28-2006, 03:13 AM
http://stashbox.org/6031/27nov.JPG

what a night maaaaaaaaaaaaaan

i love you all !!

lateralusgonghit
11-28-2006, 03:36 AM
Plenty of dumb ass belligerent fuckers there too sadly.

Show was absolutely phenomenal though! I agree, sound was much better than when I saw them Hammersmith Apollo in June. That was great but I think last night just topped it. Maynard was spot on straight away; you could here every word where I was to the right of the stage, right from "something has to change....". Set list was predictable of course but still brilliant. Great to hear Swamp Song and the newest material off 10,000 days just seems to get better and better with each listen.

Have to say, I was a bit concerned about the venues for this tour being the big commercial arenas. I mean take a look at the posters around the place for all the pop groups playing there next! The atmosphere was great and I know Tool are bigger now than they have ever been, but I just would have liked them to have kept it down to the usual theatre level. Have to see where they play next year after 10,000 Days has died down a bit I guess. And speaking of the level the band have reached now, there were far too many non-heavy metal morons there I thought. When The Pot started, all of a sudden a total bunch of idiots in polo neck t-shirts with pints appeared from nowhere and just started jumping around, shouting and waving their arms and stuff. It was like that was the only track they knew or something. Not real Tool fans. Plus it really annoyed me how people decided to have a chat to their mates and start moving out and stuff right in the middle of Wings/10,000 days, the deepest, meaningful, and beautiful part of the set! No respect I'm afraid.

The most annoying thing was that every time the security saw someone taking a picture with their phone or smoking, they came along and shone a light in their face, but it didn't make people stop! It takes the piss, calling it a no smoking venue when people were still lighting up around you the whole time and don't care!

But don't get me wrong these are minor quibbles; the show was brilliant! Easily the best night of my life so far! Its just such a privilege to see the best band in the world performing the best music ever created right there in front of you. Unforgettable. All 4 of them are absolute geniuses. Cannot wait for the next chance to see them!

Sandbox Magician
11-28-2006, 03:40 AM
@ lateralusgonghit - I can't say I disagree with anything you said, my sentiments exactly.

Quite ironic given the amount of "dumb ass belligerent fuckers" there last-night. At the risk of sounding like an elitist twat, the amount of people that had the look of 'a dog being shown a card trick' when the band launched into 'Swamp Song' was priceless.

toolrockman
11-28-2006, 03:42 AM
attended last's nights gig at wembley. Have to say my wife and i approached this gig with some trepidation as picking up on some other peoples comments on wembley not a very good venue. when we got inside and found our seats man were we gutted. we were in the highest seats possible right at the side of the stage. we managed to get our seats changed thank you to the helpful staff at the venue. regarding people's ignorance just in front of us were a group of idiots who insisted on talking through some of the essential parts of the music. why do these people bother to go why don't they piss of down the pub if they want to talk to their mates? anyway this is the 3rd time we've seen tool and they just get better and better, the sound from where we were was i have to say superb certainly the best i've heard at wembley. Highlights for me 10000/days i have to say not my fave off the album but live brilliant also vicarious actualy i wasn't dissappointed in any of it looking forward to the summer. just a quick note about mastodon i like this band i think they have bought a fresh dimension to the metal genre however the subtelties and the complexity of their music was totally lost in what can only be described as a truly awful sound mix

dekard49
11-28-2006, 03:44 AM
Swamp song destroyed!

The pit area was most amusing - there was a real guerilla feel to it. Guerilla pit action! Everytime it kicked off the bouncers would come in after a few minutes, and everyone stopped moshing; it was a figurative hands in pockets whilst whistling type maneuver.
Then as the security caught the people stupid enough to carry on and took them away... "Security are wankers!" chants got going, lol.
People (myself included) were crowdsurfing *backwards*. That was some funny shit. You know if you got put over the top you were fucked, so everyone was going backwards and sideways. Fuckin' amusing!
Everytime someone tried to take a picture of the band, the security at front would shine their light at the camera overexposing the shot.
I got quite a few pics of the Mastadon artwork which was great before security bundled in and told me to stop taking pictures (they didnt take me away though!)

A question: To any of the people who got pulled out of the crowd... did you get booted out or what?

Top gig - though I prefered Hammersmith on the 14th....
Still no Grudge :(

arcane
11-28-2006, 03:50 AM
That was easily the best gig I have ever been to. I'd never seen Tool live before but it exceeded all expectations. I'd never before been that moved by an opening song.

They're the perfect band - all so good at what they do and I've never experienced a band whose individual roles appear so equally relevant to every song.

The atmosphere just before they played Wings for Marie was incredible - so peaceful. The whole show was amazing.

Would have loved to have heard 4 Degrees/Sober/Jimmy/Pushit, but there's always hope for Thursday.

Saltank
11-28-2006, 03:55 AM
Maynard, Danny Carrey - Irish
Adam Jones - Welsh, Justin Chancellor English.

Referring to his bright Orange jacket - "This jacket is NOOT blaaack" in a really great Borat voice.


The show was amazing, seeing Wings for the first time, it must be one of their best acts, on the level of Disposition/Reflection/Triad. Sound was good, at the start however the bass was overdrowned and there seemed to be something wrong with Justins sound, but it got fixed later. This show was much better than the Hammersmith one, way to go!

P.S. no offense to those Mastodon fans, but their act was awful.

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 04:04 AM
Have to say, I was a bit concerned about the venues for this tour being the big commercial arenas. I mean take a look at the posters around the place for all the pop groups playing there next! The atmosphere was great and I know Tool are bigger now than they have ever been, but I just would have liked them to have kept it down to the usual theatre level.

except then we wouldn't have got the full monty stage show or the pretty lasers.

Quite ironic given the amount of "dumb ass belligerent fuckers" there last-night. At the risk of sounding like an elitist twat, the amount of people that had the look of 'a dog being shown a card trick' when the band launched into 'Swamp Song' was priceless.

indeed. there were a few blank faces around.

just a quick note about mastodon i like this band i think they have bought a fresh dimension to the metal genre however the subtelties and the complexity of their music was totally lost in what can only be described as a truly awful sound mix

maybe it was worse up where you were toolrockman but all i can say is if your thought mastadon's mix was bad, you have not experienced too many support groups at wembley arena! that was nowhere near the worst i have heard.

i was amused by a couple of american guys who wandered in about 10 minutes after mastadon had finished and asked us if mastadon had been on yet. when told yes they have, you've missed them, he looked mightily pissed. i helpfully pointed out that it did say show starts at 7:30pm on the ticket.

Teaboy
11-28-2006, 05:19 AM
i helpfully pointed out that it did say show starts at 7:30pm on the ticket.

I thought that too. And it said doors open at 18:00. I turned up at about 19:15 and there was still a huge queue for the standing area. I queued for another half an hour and then when I got in I was right near the front, although Mastodon had already started playing.

arcturos
11-28-2006, 05:23 AM
Oh man, my neck is still sore from all the headbanging etc :D

Second time seeing Tool this year, and the second time I've been right at the front!

After a large amount of anxiety about whether we'd make it to the gig at a decent time due to me bursting a tyre on my car, my oldest friend and I braved the M25 and fortunately ended up at Wembley Arena.
We only had to queue up for an hour and a half, and then we legged it inside and got to the barrier. Fucking awesome :)

What can I say about the show? It blew me away. The sound was brilliant, the visuals were fantastic (loved the green lasers!) and they played the songs I love. Would have loved to hear Pushit after hearing the soundcheck, hopefully they'll play it when they come back next year. Swamp song and The Pot were perfect - two of my favourite Tool songs (aren't they all?)

Some dick next to me kept trying to shove me off the barrier after 3 songs or so, I was not best pleased. Still, even that didn't sully what was quite easily the best night of my life. Roll on next year!



And as for Mastodon, I only knew one song they played, but even that was destroyed by the "wall of sound" they seemed to be going for. Yes it may deafen your audience in a suitably "rockstar" manner, but that's no good if they can't distinguish a guitar solo from the bass playing. Try harder next time ;)


Anyone got any more pictures?

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 05:26 AM
I thought that too. And it said doors open at 18:00. I turned up at about 19:15 and there was still a huge queue for the standing area. I queued for another half an hour and then when I got in I was right near the front, although Mastodon had already started playing.

me and my brother got there at about 7:00 and there wasn't much queue for standing then. what held the queue up was the goons checking every last thing in your pockets. this tiny little guy made me take one bunch of keys out of one pocket and then found some more 'how many bunches of keys do you have sir?'. like having work, house and car keys on different keyrings is unusual. and yes, in my inside pocket? good god its a wallet! what a surprise. what a fucking kerfuffle.

Aemima
11-28-2006, 05:33 AM
@ lateralusgonghit - I can't say I disagree with anything you said, my sentiments exactly.

Quite ironic given the amount of "dumb ass belligerent fuckers" there last-night. At the risk of sounding like an elitist twat, the amount of people that had the look of 'a dog being shown a card trick' when the band launched into 'Swamp Song' was priceless.

I think I was one of the very people in my section to acknowledge Swamp Song, there was a dude 2 seats away singing along to every song like me, but everyone else seemed a bit static.

And yes, the cretins talking through Wings really annoyed me, was a bit hard to sit there and take it all in with people talking/getting up every 5 minutes.

Also, from our seats we saw at least 4 people being dragged out who looked like they'd passed out, a bit worrying...

misanthrope_13
11-28-2006, 05:41 AM
Might was exceptionable, a true experience.


But £3.50 for just over half a pint?!

What a bank breaker!

arcturos
11-28-2006, 05:45 AM
Also, from our seats we saw at least 4 people being dragged out who looked like they'd passed out, a bit worrying...

Yeah some girl standing next to my friend (who was next to me) had to be taken out, I think she was on the verge of passing out. I know it's a bit inconsiderate of me, but the only thing I could think of was telling my friend to move into her space immediately, because I couldn't move my elbows at all =/

hijinxdirect
11-28-2006, 05:49 AM
ruled.... swamp song... end

travacalm
11-28-2006, 06:32 AM
well I may as well add some more praise the growing heap. Brilliant show, as usual, wouldnt expect anything less. swamp song!, wings/10,000 days was fucking great, lateralus is always excellent live, and danny is god. Now I really really can't wait for the Paris show, got standing tix for that one so shud be even better....good to see people in N10 seating block last night actually getting into it, WHY and HOW see Tool and not want to rip shit up?

Aemima
11-28-2006, 06:44 AM
I was in N5 and rocking out....whilst sitting :p

This was the only good pic I got, twas during Wings:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Snaaaake/DSC00032.jpg

travacalm
11-28-2006, 07:11 AM
nice photos, sneaky devils. I saw one dude being thrown out with his camera, poor bugger, then torches being shined directly at people which was a little distracting. Lining up for the pisser sucked! Some dude behind me said that he forgot to bring his adult daipers so he didnt have to miss any of the show, haha. I love em and all, but how far is too far?

arcane
11-28-2006, 07:41 AM
One advantage to having seats was being able to see the use of the white stage floor for lighting/images and the lasers - Tool's artistic vision is priceless.

Arctangent
11-28-2006, 08:00 AM
i hate being in the seats at wembley. there never seems to be much atmosphere and when i looked up to my right lots of the crowd, like Aemima, were seated. how the hell can you 'rock out' sitting down?

i have never in my life sat down at a concert.

gatho
11-28-2006, 08:32 AM
DID ANYONE GET ANY VIDEOS???
im surprised that there arent any up on youtube yet, after some of the other europe shows, vids were up by the morning the next day.
i would like to see some nice video so i can transport myself back to that amazing night.

did anyone see justin walking around by the merch stand before mastodon were? he was walking around with some guy and no one noticed him, except me but i was in the middle of paying for my merch so i couldnt really go anywhere. im surprised he didnt get mobbed.
oh and did anyone notice how danny was having bad problems with his snare the whole show? my friend who was in the seating area next to the stage said that he had to play all of swamp song using a tom instead of his snare. even bands like tool encounter technical difficulties i guess.
i wish brann dailor (mastodon drummer) came on and played a song with tool. hes so talented, that would have been incredible.

travacalm
11-28-2006, 09:34 AM
i hate being in the seats at wembley. there never seems to be much atmosphere and when i looked up to my right lots of the crowd, like Aemima, were seated. how the hell can you 'rock out' sitting down?

i have never in my life sat down at a concert.

Tool is probably one of the best bands to see seated, your more able to get a view of the show as a whole, are in a better position to choose who you wanna watch and when. But it depends what experience your after.

christo_walkero
11-28-2006, 09:51 AM
The sound was immense, and I want a bright orange fleece now!

theescapedslave
11-28-2006, 10:28 AM
Tool is probably one of the best bands to see seated, your more able to get a view of the show as a whole, are in a better position to choose who you wanna watch and when. But it depends what experience your after.

I've seen Tool four times standing, twice seated, I'd go for seated every time from now on....better elevation and I can rock out internally, head nod etc I don't have to partake in the hom o-erotic adventure that is moshing.....not that theres anything wrong with that.

Pablo
11-28-2006, 10:43 AM
"WHY and HOW see Tool and not want to rip shit up?" 'cause we're all different...that's why *sighs*... different strokes for different folks and all that.

And as long as you're not fucking anyone else's evening up with your "shit-rippage" - crack on... but don't expect it to be your divine right to stand at the front and do it... you can always "bang yo head" at the back - you get the same effect and piss less people off... : )

But hey - this has been discussed to death elsewhere - and some of my fairly well worded theories have been deleted "big brother style" as I wasn't at certain gigs I was commenting on...well guess what big bro' - I was at this one, so it's relevant... but delete away anyhow - as I believe someone once said "censorshit [sic] is a cancer".

Christo Walkero - orange fleeces at https://store.puscifer.com/

bye.

loulie
11-28-2006, 10:44 AM
Tool exceeded all my expectations. I was 5 feet from the front, dead centre and it was amazing. Especially during Vicarious and Aenema, when everyone went mental. Security were wankers, with the torches. To all the lemons who were seated, WTF?
The backward crowd surfers were very amusing. Wings was great, as was Lateralus. Great night, hope they come back in the summer.

martyr
11-28-2006, 11:18 AM
You didn't mention the lasers louise.

Isac Khrondor
11-28-2006, 11:26 AM
Amazing show, not quite Hammersmith, but still pretty damn mind blowing.

Wings was great, as was swamp song, lateralus and Aenima.

Cool to see Camilla inches away from me taking some photos too.

During Mastodon this couple next to me just had their middle fingers up the whole time and shouting shit at them, then the ginger guitarist started chucking shit at them and flipping them off in return, and then some butch emo in the crowd punched the kid in the back of the head, very amusing it was.

I also met someone from here in the que, but I can't remember what her name was, Suzy i think?

phunt
11-28-2006, 11:49 AM
Pushit wouldve made the show almost perfect.

I thought Schism and Rosetta Stoned was a tired section in the setlist, thought that bit dragged a bit. Wings and everything after it was probably the best 30/40 minutes ive attended in a loooong time.

phunt
11-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Also, I was kinda let down by Mastodon, only Hearts Alive saved their set. I think that was quite a general opinion judging by the crowd reaction and feedback.

holotrope
11-28-2006, 12:01 PM
Gig rocked my face off. Better than both hammersmith nights, if only because of the amazing sound. I felt like I was wearing awesome headphones. Maynard was good, but a bit sloppy on The Pot (was better performed 2nd night at hammersmith) but he made up for it by awesome mic/megaphone control during RS and filling out harmonies with the keyboard. Definitely sounded like they brought Justin out of the mix for the home crowd, which is a good thing cos he was on fire. Good times. Adam's guitar sounded like he stole his tone from God at the end of Lateralus. Danny was awesome as usual, bringing every peak to its ultimate possible intensity, and rocking the whole planet during the solo in 10k days. Lighting from Wings onward was totally incredible and transporting.

This has to be the best gig I've ever been to.

holotrope
11-28-2006, 12:04 PM
Also, to review Mastodon by way of analogy (not without my flame-retardant suit):

Mastodon = Prog-Trivium
Trivium = shitty, shitty wank metal
Mastodon = shitty, shitty, wank prog-metal.

bebubly
11-28-2006, 12:58 PM
wow, last night was AMAZING. i got there at about 3.20 and the queue was tiny, i was really amazed. i sat there drinking cheap cider by myself (tramp) and made friends with the coolest people in the queue. unfortunately, before my boyfriend turned up, i managed to lose his ticket, but the guys outside who worked there were really helpful, and because they had seen the ticket before, they gave him a wristband anyway.

so yea, inside, WE WERE ON THE BARRIER!! right in front of adam. brilliant. we met more cool people in there, they were really nice despite the fact that one of the guys was scarily coming onto me. a couple of guys up from us decided to piss all over the barrier, but the guards didn't say anything.

we suffered mastodon, and i hate to be rude, but it really was suffering. their sound was terrible, but i can't imagine it being much better if it was any different. and although this has nothing to do with their music, they really need to learn to shave. still, some twat behind us decided to hit my boyfriend over the head for putting his finger up at them.

then, after mastodon, because my boyfriend didn't want to lose his place, he decided to pee in an empty cup, and he got chucked out. i faked an asthma attack to try and get him back in, but it wouldn't work, so he had to buy a ticket off a tout for another tenner outside. grr.

but as for tool themselves, absolutely fucking amazing. wow. highlights for me were probably swamp song (i wasn't expecting that), lateralus, wings pt1/2 and rosetta stoned. wings could not have been any more amazing, i loved the combination of such a fantastic and emotional pair of songs with the lasers. the way they opened up at the beginning gave you a real sense of judith-marie's presence.

i wish maynard had come to the front (i am sure he did at hammersmith). i am so so happy because i waved at adam at the end and he waved back. and their whole hug thing was too cute.

i was pretty shocked at the people around me, being at the front, they must have queued for a fair amount of time, but none of them seemed to know the words to anything.

was the gas mask for the aenima noise, or was it just another part of maynard's interesting costume thing?? the jacket was great, i want it.

the amount of empty seats was more than i had expected, it didn't seem right. the stewards were absolute nazis for the most part, i will be avoiding wembley arena unless i can help it in future.

cannot wait for summer. i will so be there.

did anyone notice how they put the borat theme tune on loop after the gig??

bebubly
11-28-2006, 01:04 PM
During Mastodon this couple next to me just had their middle fingers up the whole time and shouting shit at them, then the ginger guitarist started chucking shit at them and flipping them off in return, and then some butch emo in the crowd punched the kid in the back of the head, very amusing it was.


where were you?? that may has been us, but nothing was thrown at us that i can remember.

Spidery
11-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Brilliant show. Better than Hammersmith I thought - I was really feeling it a lot more than those gigs. The only real downers were the location and security personnel. Wembley is very awkward to get to. Both tube stations are quite far away when you have 30 minutes to catch a train on the other side of town! As it turned out I missed the last train home which meant I didn't get home until around 3am and had to be up for work in the morning. Still though it was worth it!

I was close to the front about 4 rows from the barrier in front of Adam. Unfortunately I missed seeing the talkbox solo being played live in Jambi (probably my favourite part of 10,000 days) because some overfed hulk of a security guard felt it necessary to block many peoples' views because one person was recording on their mobile. DAMN YOU! I felt security really ruined the atmosphere at times with their heavy handed tactics. Especially when about 10 of them bulldozed passed me and elbowed me out the way in the middle of a song to grab someone or other. I really dont think that was necessary.

Having read previous reviews I was expecting the laser show to be cheesy but it was in fact very good and fit in perfectly with the music. When people held up their lighters during the interlude it created a really cool atmosphere, especially when you looked back and up into the seating areas.

Mastodon's music was not really to my liking but they rocked their socks off so they were fun to watch. Would have been perfect if Isis had opened as they are my joint favourite band with Tool.

All in all a very entertaining spectacle.

little
11-28-2006, 01:53 PM
This was the forth time I've seen Tool in London in recent years (twice at Brixton, and the Hammersmith gig this summer). Each gig better than the previous, and this gig the best I've seen by any band over the last 30 years.
The reasons for this being (a) my view-quarter distance back from stage, half way up on the side, (b) laser show, (c) witnessing them play 'Wings for Marie/10,000 Days, (d) superb song selection with a very strong second half and brilliant finale, (e) loud clear sound-great crunching riffs.
The two elements I was most hoping for were '10,000 Days' and the Lasers. I got both. I was surprised at the start as there were no visuals, I was expecting something spectacular in such a large venue. Bit by bit visuals increased, then during Wings/10,000 Days we got the lasers. Ever since I first saw Tool I've wanted to see them play with lasers, I think it's so right for this band to have a big stage show. The lasers didn't stop with 10,000 Days, we got plenty more during the rest of the gig.
Anyone reading this that still have a Tool gig to go to are in for such a treat! Last night at Wembley was so special for me on so many levels.

profundo giallo
11-28-2006, 01:53 PM
This was my 7th time seeing Tool and was concerned that it wouldnt be the same in a big arena.Boy was i wrong! The sound was great (which i didnt expect) and finally i heard wings/10000 days live! It was worth the wait, i loved the way the visuals were slowly introduced until we got them amazing lasers!

Perfect gig, couldnt fault it apart from the security......Ive never seen Tool do a bad gig.Bring on Nottingham!

46h2
11-28-2006, 04:07 PM
good to see people in N10 seating block last night actually getting into it, WHY and HOW see Tool and not want to rip shit up?

one of them was possessed, i swear.. swaying around like a jellyfish.. they blocked my view sometimes.. quite annoying..

DARREN VAUGHAN
11-28-2006, 05:36 PM
The Floyd are dead;long live Tool (brain food)

christo_walkero
11-28-2006, 07:41 PM
"WHY and HOW see Tool and not want to rip shit up?" 'cause we're all different...that's why *sighs*... different strokes for different folks and all that.

And as long as you're not fucking anyone else's evening up with your "shit-rippage" - crack on... but don't expect it to be your divine right to stand at the front and do it... you can always "bang yo head" at the back - you get the same effect and piss less people off... : )

But hey - this has been discussed to death elsewhere - and some of my fairly well worded theories have been deleted "big brother style" as I wasn't at certain gigs I was commenting on...well guess what big bro' - I was at this one, so it's relevant... but delete away anyhow - as I believe someone once said "censorshit [sic] is a cancer".

Christo Walkero - orange fleeces at https://store.puscifer.com/

bye.


cheers amigo!

Unfortunately they are a tad expensive and dont have XL ones... which sucks! I like them baggy :(

Arctangent
11-29-2006, 01:22 AM
I've seen Tool four times standing, twice seated, I'd go for seated every time from now on....better elevation and I can rock out internally, head nod etc I don't have to partake in the hom o-erotic adventure that is moshing.....not that theres anything wrong with that.

i'm not into moshing. i was close enough to the stage and no one near me (except for the mad drug guy) was doing anything like that. i was screaming my lungs out, banging my head to the faster bits and air guitaring like a loon! it was nice that where i was there was actually room to be able to do all that comfortably.then, after mastodon, because my boyfriend didn't want to lose his place, he decided to pee in an empty cup, and he got chucked out. i faked an asthma attack to try and get him back in, but it wouldn't work, so he had to buy a ticket off a tout for another tenner outside. grr.

and what the fuck did he expect to happen when he peed into a cup? a round of applause? christ, i managed to spend four hours in wembley arena and not need to pee once. maybe i just have a cast iron bladder.



Would have been perfect if Isis had opened as they are my joint favourite band with Tool.

ah, not just me then.

gorilly
11-29-2006, 01:48 AM
f you were the twat infront of me with the hood on.... my neck hurts! your mum is really a man!

good gig... not as good as brixton a few years back

wembley is total crap, i hate the place, bad sound (although it was the best of a bad situation, the engineer deserves a medal)

i was not happy with the choice of songs, im still dying to hear hooker with a penis live and maynards dick...

10,000 days is a fantastic album but i dont think its such a great live album (just like undertow)... i would rather have heard stuff from aenima, opiate and lateralus

still a fantastic show, had a great time.

Arctangent
11-29-2006, 02:05 AM
f you were the twat infront of me with the hood on.... my neck hurts! your mum is really a man!


didn't have a hood on. why would anyone have a hood on? i was in a leather bikers jacket. with long dark, slightly greying hair. why did the twat infront of you with the hood on cause your neck to hurt?

and for the record, my mum was actually a jackal!

butter
11-29-2006, 02:27 AM
My mates and I took the plane from Denmark just for this concert. We saw the show @ hamburg the 6.6.06 (nice date :) but there were no warup then, so I was looking foreward to Mastodon, and they rocked. The sound in Hamburg was not very good, so IO had to see Tool again hoping that the Arena would do it for me. OH YEAH, it rocked hard, great sound. The bass was perfect standing close to the sound-guy. Swamp song = yes. The Pot = I like. Great show, will travel for tool again next time. Very nice laser show, thx Pink Floyd, and tnx tool for giving me the time of my life. Only problem was England laws or something, that all venues have to close before 23:00 (11:00pm?). They could have played me songs if not...

butter
11-29-2006, 02:32 AM
Yes, I am very naive to think so, but it is the only criticism that I can think of. Some Tool is good, but more is better, and everything is supreme.

I still want more=), so they better tour europe once again!

butter
11-29-2006, 02:37 AM
Forgot one thing, Hamburg had a bit more atmosphere than England (Wembley). The crown was more intense in Germany, but still great show, i'd go again!

chrisslight
11-29-2006, 03:14 AM
where were you?? that may has been us, but nothing was thrown at us that i can remember.

I believe I was about 3 people to the left at you. And indeed, the guitarist threw a bottle of water at you. It might not of hit, but judeing from what you were doing, it would have been you. And rightly so I feel.


As for the show, that was the second time I have seen Tool, and I have to say it was one of the best gigs I have ever been to. Me and my buddy were first in the line at the North East entrance, haveing got their much earlier than it turned out we needed to. However, we got right to the front, and had an amazing time. I sure hope they do come back in the summer!

Isac Khrondor
11-29-2006, 05:27 AM
we suffered mastodon, and i hate to be rude, but it really was suffering. their sound was terrible, but i can't imagine it being much better if it was any different. and although this has nothing to do with their music, they really need to learn to shave. still, some twat behind us decided to hit my boyfriend over the head for putting his finger up at them.

then, after mastodon, because my boyfriend didn't want to lose his place, he decided to pee in an empty cup, and he got chucked out. i faked an asthma attack to try and get him back in, but it wouldn't work, so he had to buy a ticket off a tout for another tenner outside. grr.


I was the guy next to your boyfriend, on the left.

No offence, but you were being total twats, and your twat of a boyfriend deserved to be kicked out for being such a twat.

Just because you don't like Mastodon doesn't mean you have to stand there shouting at them with your middle fingers up the whole time, that bloke who hit your boyfriend had the right idea, I was about to do it myself.

murphyia
11-29-2006, 05:44 AM
I was in N5 and rocking out....whilst sitting :p

This was the only good pic I got, twas during Wings:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Snaaaake/DSC00032.jpg

Dude, you must have been sitting right near me. I was standing up/sitting on the back of my chair and probably twitching (I like to call it "rocking out" too though) like a freak at the very back of N5.

Amazing night - that guy who went in to take Danny's drum away surely risked being twatted to death. Brave fellow!

sinister exaggerator
11-29-2006, 06:19 AM
tool were amazing yet again, swamp song is shit hot live.
Also im looking forward to the summer tour, because we might se some more different tracks live, like parabola or flood.

by the way mastadon are really shit, they sound like godsmack mixed with iron maiden, a work doosh chickenson would really be proud of.

Would also like to say fuck off and die to the lass in the black and white hooped top with a pudding bowl haircut who was supposed to be in standing but kept pissing people off in the seating area, by standing in peoples way and dancing like an epileptic sliding around on ice. didnt get in my way but was stiil annoying me.

bebubly
11-29-2006, 07:28 AM
Also, to review Mastodon by way of analogy (not without my flame-retardant suit):

Mastodon = Prog-Trivium
Trivium = shitty, shitty wank metal
Mastodon = shitty, shitty, wank prog-metal.

so so true.

and yea, my boyfriend probably did deserve to get kicked out for it, but they weren't chucking out the rest of the guys who weren't even using a cup.


and yea, i'm sorry if i offended you guys, but mastodon were an absolute nightmare to listen to. if you guys are gonna cheer for them i'm not complaining, so i don't see the difference if we express how we feel too.

noz
11-29-2006, 07:42 AM
pretty much everything i wanted to say has already been said. amazing show, actually got to see quite a lot which was surprising considering i'm a shortstick and there's no sloping floor, so i was chuffed.

the whole thing was too good to really pick out highlights but have to say i really really loved aenema, swamp song and lateralus. also, hearing wings/10k days live was ace, i have always really liked them but i dunno, something about hearing them live was just amazing, totally blew me away.

oh and i totally missed mastodon as me and my mate were really late arriving! plus took longer than expected to get in, there was only one woman doing searches on girls but there were loads of male staff doing searches, dunno whether they didn't expect many girls but there were loads of us having to wait to get searched... ah well, at least i didn't miss any of tool :)

Arctangent
11-29-2006, 08:00 AM
so so true.

and yea, i'm sorry if i offended you guys, but mastodon were an absolute nightmare to listen to. if you guys are gonna cheer for them i'm not complaining, so i don't see the difference if we express how we feel too.

you may not like the music the make but they are up on stage trying their hardest and playing their stuff as well as they can. put yourself in their position. how would you like to be up there and have people giving you the finger. if it were me up there, i'd chuck stuff at you too.

i have seen plenty of support bands i haven't liked (the noisettes, who supported muse were far, far worse than mastadon). i just ignore them or, if i'm drinking, piss off to the bar. as you were against the barrier i'd try the first option. that might not spoil the band's performance for those that do like them to the point where they feel the need to twat your boyfriend round the head for his disrespect.

Mongeese
11-29-2006, 09:02 AM
I also met someone from here in the que, but I can't remember what her name was, Suzy i think?

yeah I was on the phone to her last night and I asked if she met any TDN'ers and she said she met you. I was like "awesome."

Ask The Dust
11-29-2006, 10:05 AM
Wembley Arena has improved since the revamp But sadly it is soulless, has no heart or character like Brixton or Hammersmith. To vast, to empty to, to clinical to cold…to god dam big to connect in the same way a Tool experience at Hammersmith does…& those people so far who said "much better than Hammersmith" your insane!!
Yes Tool can fill out a venue that size but you got to admit the space between audience and artist was notable at Wembley.
Sound was great and I moved about the arena during the set, just different degrees of loudness.
I don't want to go Wembley Arena basing but I will….the truth is if it wasn't Tool I would definitely boycott that venue. The security was way over the top, on top of dragging people away like a school playground (hey teachers leave those kids alone).
Something should be said here, if the band gave out those kind of instructions they are seriously misguided. What's the problem with youth angst? We're not killing each other out there! It's just fun on a molecular scale. I don't remember the members of TOOL complaining 10 yrs ago????
Someone may or may not get hurt, accidentally or otherwise but I don't see where the band get off laying down the law on this point…ummmmmm it just reeks a little, I dunno, you got to let people making decisions/choices themselves. It just seems odd at a Tool gig (heavily played bombastic music let's not forget!) that we're even discussing heavy handed security preventing moshing or the gathering of energy & expression. I'm all for the band making requests i.e. No Smoking/Crowd Surfing etc etc… but you got to draw the line on laying down rules & regulations. At the end of the day you cannot control an audience.
If your not up for a bit of humpty dumptey moshing (& I'm not), simple move. Use the power of choice.
If they really want to jump on people, get the arseholes whom chuck cups of beer from a distance like the scared cowards they are, do us all a service and get rid of these dickheads, I confronted one of these idiots for throwing beers and found he had balls the size of tiny marbles in fact I'd say they were the size of cheese footballs.

That moan aside they played with grace and style and most definitely we're in good spirits. Maynard on top form vocally, in fact when you consider how long they have been on the road already they we're all in fine fettle, what professionals!
Would have liked to see them mix the set list up a bit more than they did from last time but beggars blar blar blar…
On a personal note I didn't rate the light show to AMAZING standards like some are lording it up. I mean it was a nice addition to Wings/10,000 days but get a grip people I've seen better use of strobes at raves.

Summer 2007 what will it bring?... New set list and no Wembley is my prayer!

ktdude
11-29-2006, 10:43 AM
just got back from my trip down to London, third time seeing Tool this tour and it was fucking awesome, perfect. Justin was a complete nutter, seeing him go off during Aenima was incredible. I was right near the front, spent the latter half of the gig fending off moshers but it was good-humoured and I had a damn good view so no complaints really. just an awesome set.

after the gig we went drinking in Crobar and all of Mastodon were there, were hoping Tool would show up but sadly it was not to be

fucking awesome night like :)

assailing eyes
11-29-2006, 01:41 PM
as tradition has it, i've written a very lengthy blog about my experience at the show...posted here;
http://blog.myspace.com/37558489
if any of you are interested (i hope so, took about 3 hours to write).

(p.s. thanks to everyone for the awesome feedback about the hammersmith blog from last time. not sure if i thanked everyone for the messages & comments. also, shout out to some guy called harry that i stood next to throught the whole thing. and 'isac khrondor' who i met outside the venue, it was nice to meet you :] )

Isac Khrondor
11-29-2006, 02:04 PM
Yo, yeah nice to meet you too!

abhadreshwara
11-29-2006, 02:19 PM
Well Well, Swamp song.....!

I'm glad they're carrying on the tradition of playing Meshuggah's In death is death/life before the sets!

Mastadon were pretty interesting, i thought quite a few people were getting into them but it wouldn't seem so reading this thread! People sticking up middle fingers? That's what gets me about arrogant stuck up twats who just happen to listen to Tool and go to their gigs.... if there's a band playing that you don't like you deal with it.... as gay as it sounds the support bands do put a lot of effort into their performances!

The pit was awesome, towards the end there was a real brotherhood vibe! The security were just 'doing their job' but i heard one guy got punched in the face by security....which is just out of line! To the guy who was complaining about having to put on his hoodie, it was good to meet you in the centre of the big circle at the end of Aenema!

I think the best way to sum up my feelings on those who were standing still during the set is....HOW? WHY? listening to this band live makes me wanna move around....maybe you were doing this because you feel you're too mature to be in a pit? i don't understand it because the guys getting the shit battered out of them in the pit were having a great time....!

Anyways, the band were flawless....the show was awesome!

ktdude
11-29-2006, 03:03 PM
as tradition has it, i've written a very lengthy blog about my experience at the show...posted here;
http://blog.myspace.com/37558489
if any of you are interested (i hope so, took about 3 hours to write).

(p.s. thanks to everyone for the awesome feedback about the hammersmith blog from last time. not sure if i thanked everyone for the messages & comments. also, shout out to some guy called harry that i stood next to throught the whole thing. and 'isac khrondor' who i met outside the venue, it was nice to meet you :] )
awesome review again... nice work

Arctangent
11-30-2006, 12:56 AM
The security was way over the top, on top of dragging people away like a school playground (hey teachers leave those kids alone).
Something should be said here, if the band gave out those kind of instructions they are seriously misguided. What's the problem with youth angst? We're not killing each other out there! It's just fun on a molecular scale. I don't remember the members of TOOL complaining 10 yrs ago????
Someone may or may not get hurt, accidentally or otherwise but I don't see where the band get off laying down the law on this point…ummmmmm it just reeks a little, I dunno, you got to let people making decisions/choices themselves. It just seems odd at a Tool gig (heavily played bombastic music let's not forget!) that we're even discussing heavy handed security preventing moshing or the gathering of energy & expression. I'm all for the band making requests i.e. No Smoking/Crowd Surfing etc etc… but you got to draw the line on laying down rules & regulations. At the end of the day you cannot control an audience.

that is not tool's policy, its wembley's. they have always been like that and wembley has long had a no crowd surfing rule. they always seem to employ security guards who just seem to want to be rough with people. as far as i know, there is not a no moshing rule - the security at wembley seem to take it upon themselves to enforce that one.Well Well, Swamp song.....!

maybe you were doing this because you feel you're too mature to be in a pit? i don't understand it because the guys getting the shit battered out of them in the pit were having a great time....!

yeah, sounds like great fun.

ktdude
11-30-2006, 01:50 AM
the security has been just as tight for every gig on the tour. I just think that venues are cracking down on moshing and crowd-surfing overall, it’s not just Wembley. The security has been a bugbear but I’ve been trying not to let is bother me. The torches in the eyes every 2 minutes if the most annoying thing.

I’m not even sure what to think about the moshing… I personally would much rather see everything that is going on onstage and not miss a moment than shove others around, but I do like to move, I can’t keep still in fact, although I do my best to make sure it doesn’t bother those around me. So I can completely understand getting caught up in the music and wanting to express it.

For me it’s a tough call between wanting to be as close to the front as possible and risking not seeing because of moshing etc, or standing further back and being able to see everything but not feeling quite as involved in the atmosphere.

Arctangent
11-30-2006, 02:31 AM
as tradition has it, i've written a very lengthy blog about my experience at the show...posted here;
http://blog.myspace.com/37558489
if any of you are interested (i hope so, took about 3 hours to write).


very comprehensive review. interesting reading.

the thing with the photographers - they are normally given just one or two songs to photograph and then told to sling their hooks, so its not their choice when to shoot. i'm sure tool don't want the end of their stage show revealed in photographs.

assailing eyes
12-01-2006, 10:52 AM
very comprehensive review. interesting reading.

the thing with the photographers - they are normally given just one or two songs to photograph and then told to sling their hooks, so its not their choice when to shoot. i'm sure tool don't want the end of their stage show revealed in photographs.

good point. i didn't realise photographers were only allowed a couple of songs to work from.

i went to cardiff last night, and i will add more into that blog about it, with some video footage my friend took aswell =]

but i have to say last night didn't beat wembley.

sinister exaggerator
12-05-2006, 01:37 AM
anyone else notice the sign saying Tool fans please do not record the show on video cameras, there will be a dvd released soon

platformstrange
12-05-2006, 02:33 AM
didn't see any signs, but saw a few professional looking cameras.

Tool + liberty caps = sensory orgasm.

great gig, great sound (for wembley) reviews pretty much said it all..

security were absolute c***s inside the arena, on the entrances they seemed more chilled.

see ya in the summer........there IS no bad news.

http://stashbox.org/6562/jeck.gif

Arctangent
12-05-2006, 05:53 AM
security were absolute c***s inside the arena, on the entrances they seemed more chilled.

the guys on the door are employed by the arena themselves. the c***ts inside are contract security, from the congo juding by their behaviour. the guy on the door, who was about 5 foot nothing tall and about 7 stone looked rather embarrassed when he had to search me. poor guy.

didn't see any signs like that about a dvd though. if its true, lets hope it arrives quicker than the lateralus tour dvd!

sinister exaggerator
12-05-2006, 06:09 AM
not kidding. The sign was at the main entrance

I am in hadrian park

tiloprobst
12-05-2006, 12:07 PM
anyone else notice the sign saying Tool fans please do not record the show on video cameras, there will be a dvd released soon

Well, in Germany Tool is presented by Marek Lieberberg and on their webpage is says here: http://www.mlk.com/backstage/tool/tool1206/tool.tourinfo.01.html (german language) that a Vicarious DVD Single would be released soon.
Don't know what to think.

ktdude
12-05-2006, 12:22 PM
Well, in Germany Tool is presented by Marek Lieberberg and on their webpage is says here: http://www.mlk.com/backstage/tool/tool1206/tool.tourinfo.01.html (german language) that a Vicarious DVD Single would be released soon.
Don't know what to think.
there were new video clips at the nottingham gig I swear behind vicarious, ones I hadn't seen at the other gigs. unless I'm unobservant. freaky eyes with no irises and a nasty tongue thing. could have been a sneak preview

Arctangent
12-06-2006, 07:04 AM
that's standard practice at concert venues though... otherwise you would have to get each gig-goer to sign a consent form.

i noticed assailing eyes has updated her blog with a couple of awesome photos from toolarmy by camilla. nice one of maynard, but that shot of adam with the lasers around him is incredible!