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ProfoundHaytred
11-26-2002, 09:38 AM
At the end when the guy is talking about waking up, who is the guy talking?

EndEyeQuote
11-26-2002, 09:47 AM
according to what i have read, but bare in mind that everything in TOOL land is to be "taken with a grain of salt", but it is an old landlord of one of the band members named BILL.

hateandvaseline
12-01-2002, 02:04 PM
Wasn't it Maynard's landlord?

zaum
12-01-2002, 05:23 PM
reposting what i said in another post:

It is from "bill the landlord" which was Maynard's landlord for a time, who actually is Bill Manspeaker from Green Jelly.

Maynard later sung a bit on Green Jelly's song Three Little Pigs -- "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin"

sk8ingknot4659
12-02-2002, 08:04 PM
ok there is no member of tool named bill on less you talking about Bill H. their guitar tech and the guitarist of APC...

neo_taboolie
12-04-2002, 12:35 AM
No one said anything about him being a member of Tool, just that he spoke at the end of the song. Although there is no doubt that Tool are not always one to speak truthfully (who's complaining?) on every single matter, the question of whether or not it was Bill the landlord depends on whether or not you want it to be.
Seeing as I have no other Bill's that I know for comparison, I'll take Tool's word for it and just stare at the credit on the inside of Undertow with some sort of false understanding if not satisfaction.

Hyatir
12-04-2002, 01:17 PM
i was thinking, could it mean to bill the landlord? Instead of the message being FROM Bill the Landlord, maybe he means that he should bill the landlord for the phone message?

neo_taboolie
12-04-2002, 02:35 PM
Originally I thought the message "bill the landlord" literally meant what Hyatir is suggesting...
It wasn't until the people started talking about Bill and not "bill" as in the money kind, that I thought I'd had it all wrong for a long time.
Anyway, stupidity aside, it could be either... However, Zaum's confidence with the identity of this "Bill" character has me thinking that it is a person and not a request for money from the landlord.

Hyatir
12-04-2002, 02:54 PM
well if it is from a bill the landlord, then it would take away from us being able to overinterpret it. it could be either, but i prefer the verb form of bill, simply because its more ambiguous. or maaaybe the phone message is a bill - (1)payment or (2) ruling that isnt yet law, then it makes the message either a command to the landlord or a payment for something else that happened. we're all overobsessive geeks here, dont be ashamed to read into it too deeply..

exojjl
09-26-2004, 12:07 AM
jeez. it almost sounds like henry rollins.
Its not like he previously did vocals on the album.
WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY SHIT!!
i know why it says its bill the landlord!!!!!!!!!!!
ok everyone, think about this. "Bill the Landlord" what is he talking about in the song?
he looks up and the sky, and its his, and the field is his. Its simply saying that the man in the song is the landlord. He is JUST a landlord. Landlords are called landlords because, well, they are the lord of their land.That is simply all there is to it guys, jeez.
And one more thing, the other meaning of it, i think is,
the song, the world, is yours, it means what you want it to mean, and thats it. And by that meaning that you CREATE in your mind what you want it to mean. Most of us look for the most complex answer in a subject. It can be "billing the landlord" it could be "bill the landlord", whatever the hell you want it to be! Simply, thats what the ending to the song means.

exojjl
09-26-2004, 12:22 AM
I am about 85% sure that is Henry rollins speaking at the end of the song. It sure sounds like him to me. And besides he did make a previous appearance on the album. Makes sense? It should.

exojjl
09-26-2004, 12:24 AM
Read this I found on here:

[...] "We were asked to do an anti-vivisection show and weíre not anti-vivisection," Jones says. "If using an animal will help solve AIDS or any other disease that kills people, then go for it. Anyway, it was supposed to be an acoustic show and lots of different bands like Alice In Chains, Rage Against The Machine and Porno For Pyros played. We got out and Maynard just sang, 'This is necessary!' while us and the Rollins Band smashed 30 guitars and played these tribal beats and Maynard shot off a shotgun. We just felt like doing a studio version of it. We'd never even rehearsed it before. We just got up and went for it. No one really got it, you know what I mean? It was anti-anti-vivisection. When we did it live it went for 20 minutes. It seemed like two. It was really fun. We have it on videotape." [...]


That is part of my proof on why it has to be Henry Rollins.

scummonk
10-08-2004, 03:50 PM
Read this I found on here:

[...] "We were asked to do an anti-vivisection show and weíre not anti-vivisection," Jones says. "If using an animal will help solve AIDS or any other disease that kills people, then go for it. Anyway, it was supposed to be an acoustic show and lots of different bands like Alice In Chains, Rage Against The Machine and Porno For Pyros played. We got out and Maynard just sang, 'This is necessary!' while us and the Rollins Band smashed 30 guitars and played these tribal beats and Maynard shot off a shotgun. We just felt like doing a studio version of it. We'd never even rehearsed it before. We just got up and went for it. No one really got it, you know what I mean? It was anti-anti-vivisection. When we did it live it went for 20 minutes. It seemed like two. It was really fun. We have it on videotape." [...]


That is part of my proof on why it has to be Henry Rollins.

i've said it before and i'll say it again.....we'll never know. lol
unless maynard says, and everything he says is slightly suspect....
nice theory though.

Chris_Brightwell
10-08-2004, 04:30 PM
Read this I found on here:

[...] "We were asked to do an anti-vivisection show and weíre not anti-vivisection," Jones says. "If using an animal will help solve AIDS or any other disease that kills people, then go for it. Anyway, it was supposed to be an acoustic show and lots of different bands like Alice In Chains, Rage Against The Machine and Porno For Pyros played. We got out and Maynard just sang, 'This is necessary!' while us and the Rollins Band smashed 30 guitars and played these tribal beats and Maynard shot off a shotgun. We just felt like doing a studio version of it. We'd never even rehearsed it before. We just got up and went for it. No one really got it, you know what I mean? It was anti-anti-vivisection. When we did it live it went for 20 minutes. It seemed like two. It was really fun. We have it on videotape." [...]
That almost looks like a cut/paste from one of my posts. :P

That is part of my proof on why it has to be Henry Rollins.
From the TDN FAQ:
F32. Where'd that little story at the end of "Disgustipated" come from?

Notice how it sounds like someone leaving a message on an answering machine? Seems Maynard's landlord called and left that message. Hence the liner notes' credit: "phone message: bill the landlord."

Take it with a grain of salt, obviously, but that's the most official answer you're likely to ever get.

Cyanide ChrYst
10-08-2004, 09:04 PM
I'm positive that it's maynard. It sounds JUST LIKE him. Imagine maynard trying that voice...his voice is already nasally and high like a dork. (Not when he's singing though. I'd slide his cock down my throat either way.)

scummonk
10-11-2004, 12:49 AM
I'm positive that it's maynard. It sounds JUST LIKE him. Imagine maynard trying that voice...his voice is already nasally and high like a dork. (Not when he's singing though. I'd slide his cock down my throat either way.)

Meh, your probably right.

Cyanide ChrYst
10-11-2004, 06:38 AM
Dude, you're british. Explain this to me.

Some brits have the really pretty accent like the guy who plays James Bond...whats his feggin name...anyway.
And then some brits have the disgusting, barely-decipherable dialect accent like the hookers in the movie Jack the Ripper. What's the difference, and what's the deal?

scummonk
10-12-2004, 05:25 AM
Dude, you're british. Explain this to me.

Some brits have the really pretty accent like the guy who plays James Bond...whats his feggin name...anyway.
And then some brits have the disgusting, barely-decipherable dialect accent like the hookers in the movie Jack the Ripper. What's the difference, and what's the deal?

Ahh, the movies.
Well first of all most the time the British are stereo-typed in most films so it may differ. But the difference between these is that James Bond is supposed to be charming and posh etc. because he works for the country whilst the hookers are just....bottom of the line(?) and therefore have slang dialect and this is annoying, I am neither.

Cyanide ChrYst
10-12-2004, 08:50 PM
I heard the ugly dialect is from an actual place..and i forgot the name. My german teacher told me about it. She said she went there and everywhere was beautiful, but when she got to that particular area, everyone was gross.

scummonk
10-13-2004, 02:40 AM
I heard the ugly dialect is from an actual place..and i forgot the name. My german teacher told me about it. She said she went there and everywhere was beautiful, but when she got to that particular area, everyone was gross.

Yeah most of the British are gross, prime example Tony Blair.

cornerstone
10-20-2004, 01:32 PM
An odd thing happened to me when I recorded this song to my computer.... at the part before he describes the car, the CD just cut out, and made that infamous rhytmic clicking sound... When I listen to the CD its fine though...

Most scratches, debris that are on CD's are eliminated when using a more powerful laser, yet in my case it was vice versa, which is why I was confuzzled.

About the guy speaking... It does sound like Mr. Rollins. If you listen to his recent APC interview, I don't see how it could sound like Maynard.