bob help me

[hushypushy]

Can't remember what they said to me.
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be the hero.
Can't remember what they said.
Bob help me.
Can't remember what they said.

thoughts?

[disaxiom]

now that is strange...

[Spiralman]

Methinks "Bob" is just his way of saying "God"

[Carbonatedgravy]

This song is so filled with obscure pop-culture references that I wouldn't be surprised if it was talking about a real person or character named Bob. But at this point I also think it's probably just a disoriented sarcastic take on "God help me."

[implandnoises]

I am sure I remember someone picking up that lyric in the "what's he saying" section, but no-one believed him...

[HelenA]

Methinks "Bob" is just his way of saying "God"

Why would you think this?

[ElDespertador]

From 'nards MySpace blog: ( http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=71848725&MyToken=07c1503a-6cca-4891-99d5-b942499bb673ML)

"P.S. By the way. My name isn't actually GOD. It's BOB. There was a bit of a SNAFU a few thousand years and several prophets back. The angel that was delivering the "WORD" back then had an eating disorder and drooled all over the sticky note. I've been trying, with no success, to fix that ever since. These talkin monkeys are a tough crowd. Thick skulls. After a while I just gave up."

[HelenA]

From 'nards MySpace blog: ( http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=71848725&MyToken=07c1503a-6cca-4891-99d5-b942499bb673ML)

"P.S. By the way. My name isn't actually GOD. It's BOB. There was a bit of a SNAFU a few thousand years and several prophets back. The angel that was delivering the "WORD" back then had an eating disorder and drooled all over the sticky note. I've been trying, with no success, to fix that ever since. These talkin monkeys are a tough crowd. Thick skulls. After a while I just gave up."

That is HILARIOUS! I have never seen that before - my brother and I always thought that God's first name was Peter (we went to Mass as children) and at the end they say "Thanks Peter God". Or at least that is what we thought. It really is "Thanks be to God".

AND your quote fits beautifully into "Right in Two" as well - those dodgy monkeys!

[disaxiom]

From 'nards MySpace blog: ( http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=71848725&MyToken=07c1503a-6cca-4891-99d5-b942499bb673ML)

"P.S. By the way. My name isn't actually GOD. It's BOB. There was a bit of a SNAFU a few thousand years and several prophets back. The angel that was delivering the "WORD" back then had an eating disorder and drooled all over the sticky note. I've been trying, with no success, to fix that ever since. These talkin monkeys are a tough crowd. Thick skulls. After a while I just gave up."

that's awesome! case closed

[molehill]

Posted this in another thread, but thought it may be of interest here too.

Re: Bob help me -

If you read Douglas Adams 'Mostly Harmless' (the last book of the Hitchhikers Guide series), when Arthur is stuck on a parallel-dimension earth as the sandwich maker for an undeveloped tribe/culture, 'The Almighty Bob' is their deity of choice, as it were. It may be a reference to that.

But Bob only knows if this is correct...

[Choice Breath]

What about Bob Dobbs? The Church of the Subgenius. Bob Dobbs, praise Bob -- and all of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

For added fun: Repeat this to yourself, or out loud: Paging Mr. Dobalena Mr. Bob Dobalena, Mr. Dobalena, Mr. Bob Dobalena. Then throw in over it (a-la "Row row row your boat"): "It isn't my opinion that the people are attending, it isn't my opinion that the people are attending." Doing so will quickly indoctrinate you into the church, which by now I'm sure you'll want to do. Anyway, the local university radio station used to play that in association with the Church of the Subgenius references, always concluding with "Bob Dobbs, praise Bob".

[LetGoLetgoLetGo]

What about Bob Dobbs? The Church of the Subgenius. Bob Dobbs, praise Bob -- and all of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

For added fun: Repeat this to yourself, or out loud: Paging Mr. Dobalena Mr. Bob Dobalena, Mr. Dobalena, Mr. Bob Dobalena. Then throw in over it (a-la "Row row row your boat"): "It isn't my opinion that the people are attending, it isn't my opinion that the people are attending." Doing so will quickly indoctrinate you into the church, which by now I'm sure you'll want to do. Anyway, the local university radio station used to play that in association with the Church of the Subgenius references, always concluding with "Bob Dobbs, praise Bob".

Del Tha Funkee Homosapien. I had the cassette single of that song when I was 11.

[Choice Breath]

Del Tha Funkee Homosapien. I had the cassette single of that song when I was 11.

Glad to know I'm not the only one around here old enough to remember. So, there was no association with Bob Dobbs?

[plexus]

i already posted about bob dobbs in the "The Drug thread"

[mike09]

Bob Barker imo.

I'm goin' with that one.

[moneyisevil]

Bob Barker imo.


.

bob barker ftw

[Inner_Eulogy]

Glad to know I'm not the only one around here old enough to remember. So, there was no association with Bob Dobbs?
lol, hilarious...I remember that song

[Bigtimefromday1]

Your progress from maynards myspace seems the likely answer... but with all the other pop culture references i was thinking maybe "Bob" the doppelganger from Twin Peaks...but that may be a stretch

[InsolentBystander]

That is HILARIOUS! I have never seen that before - my brother and I always thought that God's first name was Peter (we went to Mass as children) and at the end they say "Thanks Peter God". Or at least that is what we thought. It really is "Thanks be to God".

AND your quote fits beautifully into "Right in Two" as well - those dodgy monkeys!

Lol. When I was a kid I first thought “Christ” was a verb. Jesus chrised, past tense of chrise, whatever that means. Then later I thought it was his surname.

[Bigtimefromday1]

hey subtle...have you seen this..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTyZ8sSbDIs

pretty hilarious/great/horrible

[Sanzen]

" OH - YOUR - GOD. "

- Bender to Fry upon seeing the amazonian women.

[losdiablos]

What about Bob Dobbs? The Church of the Subgenius. Bob Dobbs, praise Bob -- and all of that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

For added fun: Repeat this to yourself, or out loud: Paging Mr. Dobalena Mr. Bob Dobalena, Mr. Dobalena, Mr. Bob Dobalena. Then throw in over it (a-la "Row row row your boat"): "It isn't my opinion that the people are attending, it isn't my opinion that the people are attending." Doing so will quickly indoctrinate you into the church, which by now I'm sure you'll want to do. Anyway, the local university radio station used to play that in association with the Church of the Subgenius references, always concluding with "Bob Dobbs, praise Bob".

I think that quite clearly, given his MySpace posts and the reference to Bob at that point in the song...he's referencing J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

J. R. "Bob" Dobbs is the figurehead of the Church of the SubGenius. His image is derived from a piece of 1950s clip-art. According to SubGenius dogma, "Bob" was a drilling equipment salesman who, in the 1950s, saw a vision of God (JHVH-1 according to Church scriptures) on a television set he had built himself. The vision inspired him to write the "PreScriptures" (as described in the Book of the SubGenius) and found the Church. "Bob" has been credited by Church members as being the greatest salesman who ever lived, and he has apparently cheated death itself a number of times. He was assassinated in San Francisco in 1984, though the Church states that he has come back from the dead several times since then and is living in a small Malaysian village known as Dobbstown.

"Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke." - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs

[whitewater]

Bob from My Own Private Idaho imo.

[kangaroo]

This song is so filled with obscure pop-culture references that I wouldn't be surprised if it was talking about a real person or character named Bob. But at this point I also think it's probably just a disoriented sarcastic take on "God help me."

Maybe he's asking Bob Lazar for help. He had a little to do with Area 51.(supposedly)
Bob Lazar, a scientist with degrees in physics and electronics, claims to have worked for the U.S. Government on projects involving captured alien space craft. Originally a technician at Los Alamos, he was recruited into a secret group based at S-4, ten miles south of the mysterious area 51 at Groom Lake, Nevada.

[anubis639]

bob marley? and maybe the dave floating away is dave matthews?

[pops333]

Its Bob Lazar, a guy who claimed to work at Area 51 and to have worked on reverse engineering UFO technology.

[pops333]

Maybe he's asking Bob Lazar for help. He had a little to do with Area 51.(supposedly)
Bob Lazar, a scientist with degrees in physics and electronics, claims to have worked for the U.S. Government on projects involving captured alien space craft. Originally a technician at Los Alamos, he was recruited into a secret group based at S-4, ten miles south of the mysterious area 51 at Groom Lake, Nevada.


I should have read this post. I think this is probably who they are referring to because of all the references to aliens and area 51.

[iAMtheMA!]

"good morning, i'm dr. watson. how are you today?"
"bob, help me!" ??? dr. robert watson. ???

and so you don't hafta click anywhere, here you go:
(source: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/8742368/the_messenger/ )

It's not easy getting international scientists to agree about anything. Meteorologists look at the world differently than geologists, and developing countries have different agendas than industrial nations. But Robert Watson, an American born in England, practically invented the process of getting the world's scientists to work together. In the 1980s, he persuaded researchers to combine their efforts to study damage to the ozone layer. And as chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he brought the same skills to bear on global warming. In 2001, the panel issued a landmark study endorsed by 120 nations. Its simple but devastating conclusion: Human beings have already caused the planet to heat up significantly, and it is likely to get worse. The study found that the Earth's temperature will likely rise as much as ten degrees by 2100, and that sea levels will rise as much as thirty-five inches.
The Bush administration responded by killing the messenger. After the study appeared, ExxonMobil sent a memo to the White House lobbying for Watson to be removed from the United Nations panel. A few months later, Watson was unceremoniously replaced with a less outspoken representative. "The Bush administration axed him because they saw him as too effective," says Michael Oppenheimer, a geosciences professor at Princeton University. "The world is poorer for not having Bob in this kind of role."

Not that the ouster silenced him. As chief scientist for the World Bank, Watson is on the road almost half of every year, working with developing nations to cut their greenhouse-gas emissions and to raise awareness about climate-related threats posed by widespread disease and flooding. "There could be a lot of lives lost and people being displaced," says Watson, 56. And despite being a target of the Bush administration, he notes that Democrats in Congress have also refused to impose mandatory targets to curb greenhouse gases. "What if tomorrow morning President Bush decided he wanted to move to targets -- would Congress approve it?" he asks. "The answer is most certainly no."


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the "bob, help me!" lyric may be about this guy. delve and discuss.

[OUTATIME]

Bob is a very generic name. It's possible that during the trip, the song, that he had a friend that he calls Bob with him and he is telling Bob to help him. Also, Bob could have been the man who dropped him off at the hospital. Being that the line "Bob help me" is near the end of the song, as in the end of the story, and closer to the present in which the song is presented.

[iAMtheMA!]

to defend my theory, and just because...

Bob is a very generic name. It's possible that during the trip, the song, that he had a friend that he calls Bob with him and he is telling Bob to help him. Also, Bob could have been the man who dropped him off at the hospital. Being that the line "Bob help me" is near the end of the song, as in the end of the story, and closer to the present in which the song is presented.

"did someone drop him off, maybe we can speak to them? let's get some background on this fellow."

"no i.d., nothing, and he won't speak to anybody."

unless, of course, you meant that he was "dropped off" by the e.t. named "bob". but, then again, i tried to put myself into this story - picturing a confused-as-fuck individual (because i'm thinking the guy is NOW capable of using more than the average "less than 10%" of his brain) looking up to whatever he can grab a hold of (something simple, a visual cornerstone) and seeing a "hi, my name is bob" tag of his shirt as he's grabbing for clarity in severe anguish. this "help me!" sounds like the response would be something that could determine life from death for this patient.

[Solaris]

Maybe he's asking Bob Lazar for help. He had a little to do with Area 51.(supposedly)
Bob Lazar, a scientist with degrees in physics and electronics, claims to have worked for the U.S. Government on projects involving captured alien space craft. Originally a technician at Los Alamos, he was recruited into a secret group based at S-4, ten miles south of the mysterious area 51 at Groom Lake, Nevada.

Seems to be a real plausible interpretation of this line, but do you really think someone would remember Bob Lazar while trippin' on acid or whatever other drug? I think not.

[PShepherd11]

Maybe the guy's not on any drugs. Maybe he did see what he says happened. It is just a song, after all. Weird shit doesn't necessarily mean it's an influence of drugs. Maybe it's just weird shit.

The Bob Lazar explanation seems appropriate, but who knows.

[smeefsmeef]

Maybe he was watching Rugrats

[parsad13]

i thought it might be bob weir from the grateful dead since he mentioned them so much in the song. since jerry garcia died he would be the next icon of the dead.

[kangaroo]

Seems to be a real plausible interpretation of this line, but do you really think someone would remember Bob Lazar while trippin' on acid or whatever other drug? I think not.

Yea, lookin back on it you're probably right. Ole Bob L. has never came up in any of my previous experimental experiences. I can picture Maynard writing the lyrics as "God help me" and then thinking to himself let me put Bob in there instead. That'll fuck with em'. After all, we are talking about the guy who said "let the rabbits wear glasses; Save our brothers. Can I get an amen".

[Inner_Eulogy]

Yea, lookin back on it you're probably right. Ole Bob L. has never came up in any of my previous experimental experiences. I can picture Maynard writing the lyrics as "God help me" and then thinking to himself let me put Bob in there instead. That'll fuck with em'. After all, we are talking about the guy who said "let the rabbits wear glasses; Save our brothers. Can I get an amen".

Agreed

[x7 Lateralus 7x]

Think about the situation, it seems as though "Bob" is actually a doctor. I don't think his name is really Bob though, think "Robert". I've heard of a famous doctor (or at least I think he is) who Maynard knows of or who has mentioned, his first name was Robert but I do not remember his last. Or maybe this "Robert" guy has studied alien sitings and other things of the sort. Any ideas? I had it once, looked him up on wikipedia and everything just clicked- the stone, Bob, the drug trip, etc.

-David

[x7 Lateralus 7x]

Erm... this Doctor Robert idea was actually an interpretation of one of my closer friends actually, kind of remembered this, I'll give him a call sometime and type his thoughts here.
So far on wikipedia I keep finding novelists, but that too could be a clue.

-Dave Dawg

[Inner_Eulogy]

I'm quite sure Bob is in reference to poking fun at the God being named Bob. Instead of sayig God help me, he says Bob help me. Quit over analyzing it you people with your research into the million and one different Bobs and Roberts there are in the world that may have one microscopic shred of something in common with the subject matter.

[x7 Lateralus 7x]

I'm quite sure Bob is in reference to poking fun at the God being named Bob. Instead of sayig God help me, he says Bob help me. Quit over analyzing it you people with your research into the million and one different Bobs and Roberts there are in the world that may have one microscopic shred of something in common with the subject matter.

How about this- you do what you think is right, and I'll do the same, that way we'll have both perspectives to view and discuss.

And his last name was Wilbert. Dr. Robert Wilbert.
There's a couple with that name though, right now I'm just trying to find the one that my friend was referring to- the one who studied UFO sightings and the many theories, for and against alien life.

But just so I'm not "over analyzing" it, how about... ok, we discovered this rosetta stone and it helped us read some ancient language or whatever. Basically another view of this song would be that- what he's saying while he's on these drugs is completely factual, just encrypted like what we found on this stone, but- he is the rosetta stone in a way, and just like the stone, he is what translates a "stoner's" thoughts/words into regular dialect which would be sober talk. But how is encryptic speech/writing translated? Well, he's talking to a doctor, because the doctor was the most logical pick, so he can translate the message, and the message just so happens to have alien obduction references. So that's pretty blunt in a way... Maynard did say this album would be more easier to understand but I don't trust that that's all there is to this phenominal music.

But another view that would link to my own "quick" interpretation is of our own perspective. It could be that WE as the observers aren't very sober, it was discussed in quantum physics how we only use a small fraction of what we really have to observe, learn and percieve something, no matter how simple it is.
In other words, this monitor you're looking at right now is probably just a big piece of trimitorium placed in a hollow niagalic box... but what is that? Trimitorium? niagalic box? We don't know, why? Cause we can't see that in complex objects let alone, the simple ones; we can't see it. So in a way, this guy who was supposedly talking about aliens most likely wasn't, according to this theory. But with the way we are so unable to understand most of which surrounds us in our very own living space, "alien" describes all of that which we do not see/understand but what is actually there.

Drugs can enhance your ability to see these certain things, and people call it "trips" or "hallucinations". In a way they are, especially when you have that drunken aura around your head that presses on your forehead when you lay down. So all in all, I think this is about something alien, but nothing like what he really said where David floated away, but something more subliminal... in other words, this guy had a trip we could only dream of, something so good that allowed him to be the rosetta stone to decode reality as it really is.

This of course is just thoughts, my own and when I listen to the song it's what I think about and it just makes it so much more fun to listen to, so don't take this as "THIS IS WHAT THE SONG'S ABOUT YOU SHIT" but as "ever think of it this way?"

[TWENTY-THREE]

Or is "Bob" really only to show how human God really is?

[BlanketEffect]

It's Bob Ross, dude.

He needed Bob to paint him some happy little trees and clouds because he was freaking the fuck out.

You people make this so difficult.

[DrJones]

Bob Wiley perhaps?

[Solaris]

Maybe Bob Dole?

[WwWwW]

Bob saget ftw

[januscomplex]

hmmm
"...like that time Dave floated away."
"Bob help me"

maybe he's talking about Bob and David from Mr. Show.
Tool was on the first season

:P

[plexus]

Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs
Bob Dobbs

[hobblegobble]

Bobby Boeschae...

[ELBAZ]

maybe -

side show bob

you know ...

from the simpsons

[Inner_Eulogy]

<sigh> It's fans like you that piss people like Maynard off. Myself including. BOB=GOD

[maggie72]

I read somewhere (and I know that's vague) about a dream he had about God and that God told him his name was Bob.

[+++++Darth+++++]

C'mon Maggie...it was on the Puscifer website

Here is a link (https://store.puscifer.com/index.php?osCsid=28ab2e48c683d14384963fdafcee47f0&blogentry=1db96a5c125bb2e96d928b76494a94a2).

It's in the P.S. at the bottom

[hobblegobble]

<sigh> It's fans like you that piss people like Maynard off. Myself including. BOB=GOD

Piss people "like Maynard" off because why? Because we're kidding around. Daaamn...I think it's people like you who would more than likely piss him off (although i'm not at liberty to say so taking into consideration I can admit I wouldn't know) You think a sense of humor is a bad thing? Have you ever thought for a moment that maybe, just MAYBE, there is a lot of humor in Tool's music? And that maybe a lot of is is shit that just doesn't and won't make any sense or have any reasoning to make people like you run in circles trying to figure it out?

[maggie72]

C'mon Maggie...it was on the Puscifer website

Here is a link (https://store.puscifer.com/index.php?osCsid=28ab2e48c683d14384963fdafcee47f0&blogentry=1db96a5c125bb2e96d928b76494a94a2).

It's in the P.S. at the bottom

Ah yes, that's right, thank you Darth!

[Inner_Eulogy]

Piss people "like Maynard" off because why? Because we're kidding around. Daaamn...I think it's people like you who would more than likely piss him off (although i'm not at liberty to say so taking into consideration I can admit I wouldn't know) You think a sense of humor is a bad thing? Have you ever thought for a moment that maybe, just MAYBE, there is a lot of humor in Tool's music? And that maybe a lot of is is shit that just doesn't and won't make any sense or have any reasoning to make people like you run in circles trying to figure it out?

And unfortunately, people like yourself will never ever understand the difference between what's humor and what's just flat out stupidity.....maybe one day somebody will give you a clue which one you are, but you might not like the answer.

[hobblegobble]

Yes Inner I just love your enlightening responses. Although, these conversations would be much more amusing if you could tell me something more than the fact that you think I am stupid, because honestly, I just can't validate the fact that you think i'm stupid as a response from someone who actually thinks. Personally, I think you have a problem with trying to prove your knowledge (or lack thereof) in exchange for attention. So, thank you for reminding me for the 15th time that I am stupid, but I suggest if you're going to post an opinion it be something that at least amuse me for two seconds, like almost all of your other opinions.

[DMTspiraltrypbitch420]

Agreed




Bob Lazar? i think he referring to Robert Anton Wilson. i think that makes much more sense, most of the more educated Tool fans will realize they are part of the psychadelic world and R.A.W. is deeply rooted there also along with albert hoffman terence mckenna,and alex grey to name a few. i highly doubt that Maynard wrote that to "fuck with 'em" at all.

[DMTspiraltrypbitch420]

bob = god?!!??! where are you people coming up with this crap? do some research!

[jonboy]

bob = god?!!??! where are you people coming up with this crap? do some research!

Take your own advice, maybe even read the rest of this thread. That way when you make your first posts you wont look like a twat.

[+++++Darth+++++]

bob = god?!!??! where are you people coming up with this crap? do some research!

Take your own advice, maybe even read the rest of this thread. That way when you make your first posts you wont look like a twat.


agreed. I even posted a link. Sometimes these people want to be spoonfed the answers.

[hobblegobble]

the ANSWERS.....oOoOoOoOoOoO scary...my precious answers....

[Airport Mesa]

Bob "Help Me" Frissell

This is the bob i go to in times of trouble.

46&2, 46&4, 46&6 and so on all contained in his books along with flower of life teachings from drunvalo and thoth. Information none of us should live without.

[DMTspiraltrypbitch420]

agreed. I even posted a link. Sometimes these people want to be spoonfed the answers.

apparently

[Arkham Asylum]

Maybe it's Robert Anton Wilson (a.k.a. RAW). He was occasionally referred to as Pope Bob. Look him up, I'm sure many on ToolNavy have heard of him, he has come up before with regards to Tool.

[Arkham Asylum]

Oops, someone already posted about the Church of the Sub-Genius. Never mind, disregard my post, I guess.

[BlanketEffect]

Robert 'Bob' Thurman.

The first westerner to become a Tibetan Buddhist monk and large proponent of Buddhism in the US. He's all about transcendental meditation and such. Well, okay, maybe this is a stretch. But Bob's a cool guy, you should check him out anyway. Watch out for his one eye, though, it will mess with you at times.

[Inner_Eulogy]

How many times must it be said!!?? BOB=GOD.....this was ALREADY FUCKING ESTABLISHED IN AN INTERVIEW PEOPLE.....look it up

[xyu]

Haven't read all posts but I just read the official lyrics for this song and Bob Lazar was the first name it came to me, did a search on forums and... here I am! Although I haven't put too much thought on the song (I don't like it anyway), I believe it's just a joke. I believe Maynard is making fun of supposed chosen ones who claim that had contact with ETs and staff. Supposedly he believes Bob Lazar is also a liar. .

[Inner_Eulogy]

Haven't read all posts but I just read the official lyrics for this song and Bob Lazar was the first name it came to me, did a search on forums and... here I am! Although I haven't put too much thought on the song (I don't like it anyway), I believe it's just a joke. I believe Maynard is making fun of supposed chosen ones who claim that had contact with ETs and staff. Supposedly he believes Bob Lazar is also a liar. .

<sigh>

[hobblegobble]

<sigh> yes Inner...life is so rough with these people and their damn opinions huh? DAMN YOU PEOPLE!!! How could you post an opinion on an OPINION FORUM?!?! SINNERS!

[ashdelecour]

I think that "Bob" could be a refernece to many things. However, the 2 that make sense to me the most are Bob=God. And that Bob is a very common name and that maybe that was the last person that the abducted person spoke. Considering he was coming out of a store after buying Krispy Kreme donuts. Either way it doesn't matter the song rocks and it tells avery interesting story.

[Inner_Eulogy]

I think that "Bob" could be a refernece to many things. However, the 2 that make sense to me the most are Bob=God. And that Bob is a very common name and that maybe that was the last person that the abducted person spoke. Considering he was coming out of a store after buying Krispy Kreme donuts. Either way it doesn't matter the song rocks and it tells avery interesting story.

Yes, Bob is who sold the Krispy Kreme donuts to him, so while he was tripping his balls off into the void of insanity, Bob..the Krispy Kreme employee was who he called out for help. In the words of the Gusiness commercials "BRILLIANT"

[Inner_Eulogy]

<sigh> yes Inner...life is so rough with these people and their damn opinions huh? DAMN YOU PEOPLE!!! How could you post an opinion on an OPINION FORUM?!?! SINNERS!

No Hobble, it's not that I don't think people should have opinions on here. I just don't see how people can sit there and continually fucking hyposthesize different ideas when the band has ALREADY FUCKING STATED what this was about. It's like a scientist sitting down with the common man, showing him every detail and explaining to him that the earth is round and proving it to him and then 5min later the fucking guy is sitting there going "are you sure it's not flat" the guy is a FUCKING IDIOT in my opinion...yes that's my point

[hobblegobble]

Okay Inner, in regards to your analogy of the scientist and the man, the scientist is a man, so, it's the man sitting with the man, and one man happens to have read a couple more books than the other man. Very good analogy Inner. I see where you're going with this. You're saying you've read that Tool said this certain song is about this, so, it is pointless to post an opinion when it's WRONG (meaning Tool said it is about this and you're saying it's about this, why are you doing that when Tool has already said what it's about) and then people are saying "okay I understand that you read that Tool said it is about this but hey, let me go ahead and entertain this IDEA and OPINION and make the song a little more fun by thinking "hey...they could have meant this too...and that's a cool idea..so let me share it with everyone else" and then you have these ignorant bastards running around the forums telling them they are wrong for entertaining an idea. So, Inner, tell me, what is your fucking point?

[BlanketEffect]

So yeah... Tool tells people what their songs are about? Where can I go read these interpretations?

And when did this start?

[hobblegobble]

yes Blanket I would love to know that too, i've actually read interviews where Maynard claims Tool's music does not have one specific meaning, and the idea is to interpret for yourself, and go wherever it takes you. Information is pure. The moon is not the source of light, it is a reflection of the light passed on to it. Same concept....

[Inner_Eulogy]

Okay Inner, in regards to your analogy of the scientist and the man, the scientist is a man, so, it's the man sitting with the man, and one man happens to have read a couple more books than the other man. Very good analogy Inner. I see where you're going with this. You're saying you've read that Tool said this certain song is about this, so, it is pointless to post an opinion when it's WRONG (meaning Tool said it is about this and you're saying it's about this, why are you doing that when Tool has already said what it's about) and then people are saying "okay I understand that you read that Tool said it is about this but hey, let me go ahead and entertain this IDEA and OPINION and make the song a little more fun by thinking "hey...they could have meant this too...and that's a cool idea..so let me share it with everyone else" and then you have these ignorant bastards running around the forums telling them they are wrong for entertaining an idea. So, Inner, tell me, what is your fucking point?

My point is...it's fucking retarded.

[Inner_Eulogy]

yes Blanket I would love to know that too, i've actually read interviews where Maynard claims Tool's music does not have one specific meaning, and the idea is to interpret for yourself, and go wherever it takes you. Information is pure. The moon is not the source of light, it is a reflection of the light passed on to it. Same concept....

Yeah yeah yeah, we've all read that and for the most part it's right. See, the fucking point you're making is a generalization whereas I'm speaking specifically about the BOB reference in Rosetta Stoned. No, I never said there was a website that tells you everything it's all about. If I recall correctly it was on the official website in one of the newsletters where Blair or whoever went over this question from a fan and clearly stated that Bob was a joking reference to God by Maynard. This SAME reference can be seen in a few other places as well. Whatever, if the fucking idiots wanna run around and scream out it's Bob Saget or Bobcat or whatever fucking idiotic nonsense they can think of then fine. I just think it's fucking stupid, and we're entitled to our opinions aren't we now....

[DrJones]

Maybe when he wrote the lyrics he forgot an "o," and didn't bother to fix it?

Maybe it's a reference to some teddy bear he had when he was a little Maynard whose name was Bob and it saved him from the monsters under his bed?

Maybe it's a random name he put in that happened to work well?

Either way, how much does it matter? He (the character in the song) is calling out to someone or something to save him while stoned off his ass, so he's not gonna be thinking right or making much sense.

[DrJones]

Could be he's just screaming out in agony because he can't remember what he's supposed to tell the world.

[hobblegobble]

Yeah yeah yeah, we've all read that and for the most part it's right. See, the fucking point you're making is a generalization whereas I'm speaking specifically about the BOB reference in Rosetta Stoned. No, I never said there was a website that tells you everything it's all about. If I recall correctly it was on the official website in one of the newsletters where Blair or whoever went over this question from a fan and clearly stated that Bob was a joking reference to God by Maynard. This SAME reference can be seen in a few other places as well. Whatever, if the fucking idiots wanna run around and scream out it's Bob Saget or Bobcat or whatever fucking idiotic nonsense they can think of then fine. I just think it's fucking stupid, and we're entitled to our opinions aren't we now....

Hmmm..mmkkk..so...this place would be a whole lot better if everyone was like Inner and stated the obvious. Gee, that sounds like fun...Sometimes I wonder why you are here Inner. Other than trying to prove an OBVIOUS point to everyone here....and uhh...sorry but your comments really don't come off as requiring much thinking.

[hobblegobble]

In regards to my points being a "generalization"...that's fine..whatever....i'm just speaking for everyone here who may also be sick of your ignorant, half-assed posts.

[Inner_Eulogy]

In regards to my points being a "generalization"...that's fine..whatever....i'm just speaking for everyone here who may also be sick of your ignorant, half-assed posts.

...similar to your fucking half-sized brain and lack of intelligence

[jevons]

I will turn this goddamn bus around, and i'm gonna start swinging, and so help me God whoever i hit, well that's just too bad now, isn't it?

[hobblegobble]

...similar to your fucking half-sized brain and lack of intelligence

that's okay Inner...i've realized your innability to make relevant comments in defense for yourself. You no longer have to prove how much your posts lack any thought provoking interest.

[hobblegobble]

Maybe I should start an InnerEulogy/HobbleGobble thread where we can just duke it out without anyone having to read it..

[PShepherd11]

There's an idea. ^

[hobblegobble]

Inner, why don't we get my half sized brain and your half sized brain, mush them together and unite...InnerHobble...forces against evil...

[BlanketEffect]

In my opinion.

[Inner_Eulogy]

that's okay Inner...i've realized your innability to make relevant comments in defense for yourself. You no longer have to prove how much your posts lack any thought provoking interest.

Ya' know it's awfully pathetic that the only thing you've done is repeated the same thing over and over again on every thread about how my posts lack "any thought proviking interest". Is that the only fucking thing you're pee-sized brain is capable of conjuring? Because that's the ONLY thing you've said like a broken record. Get over yourself there fatty.

[hobblegobble]

that was a joke Inner, it's called "sense of humor" you should try it sometime...I think you need to get over yourself...see ya...

[PShepherd11]

Hobblegobble, what happened to the idea of creating a thread some place else? Now when I see that the "bob help me" thread has replies, it just means you're trying to prove something to Inner and has nothing do with the original subject. For once, you actually had a good idea...

[hobblegobble]

hey Shep, you're replying to my posts, which makes you just as "guilty". Regardless, it was an idea and not a promise. Soooo..thanks for the opinion Sheps..i'll make sure to stick it in my little box of opinions...

[DrJones]

Interesting...whenever hobble and inner are in same thread....the original topic goes to shit real quick and no one can bring it back to save anyone's life.

[hushypushy]

You ruined my thread :(

[BlanketEffect]

Well to echo an earlier post, either in this thread or some other, there is a reference to the Puscifer Myspace page where he is writing a blog about this dream he has where God comes down and talks to him and tells him that we got it wrong and that his name is "Bob", not "God".

I mean, it might mean some other specific Bob, but that blog posting is a hint-and-a-half for yo' ass. Don't overanalyze that which has been established.

[hobblegobble]

Interesting...whenever hobble and inner are in same thread....the original topic goes to shit real quick and no one can bring it back to save anyone's life.

i'm sorry it's so hard for you to just avoid replying or reading the posts...and i'm sorry you find it necessary to post a reply on something you apparantly wish would go away..interesting...

[DrJones]

i'm sorry it's so hard for you to just avoid replying or reading the posts...and i'm sorry you find it necessary to post a reply on something you apparantly wish would go away..interesting...

What am I wishing would go away?

Apologies accepted.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Well to echo an earlier post, either in this thread or some other, there is a reference to the Puscifer Myspace page where he is writing a blog about this dream he has where God comes down and talks to him and tells him that we got it wrong and that his name is "Bob", not "God".

I mean, it might mean some other specific Bob, but that blog posting is a hint-and-a-half for yo' ass. Don't overanalyze that which has been established.

Thank you. I also remember reading either one of the ToolBand newsletters or a magazine interview where the band specifially answered this question stating it was the same reference you're mentioning above. And that's exactly what I've been trying to say. All these people you could tell the world is round, fly 'em out to space and show it to them personally and then come back and they'd sit there like "uh, you sure it's not flat?". I mean how fucking stupid can one be I ask. Hobble is just an insecure little monkey girl that won't shut the hell up and get back on topic.

[PShepherd11]

Hobble is just an insecure little monkey girl that won't shut the hell up and get back on topic.

LOL!

[hobblegobble]

oo oo ah ah

[ashdelecour]

Yes, Bob is who sold the Krispy Kreme donuts to him, so while he was tripping his balls off into the void of insanity, Bob..the Krispy Kreme employee was who he called out for help. In the words of the Gusiness commercials "BRILLIANT"

I thought so....but as I also stated I think that God=Bob is the best reference to who Bob is. However what if the abducted person didn't believe in any type of relegion, then it would most accurate to remember the last person spoke to which is where I came up with my idea of the whole Krispy Kreme donut thing. Either way I don't really care who Bob is referiing to. I think the song rocks and is another reason why Tool is/are musical genious'.

[Torn-tool]

Maynard blogged in his myspace the joke about the angel who wiped his ass with a paper written on it "God" then the shit made the word "God" look like "bob" ... i think its still posted there.

[jevons]

My cats' breath smells like wasted time.

Wasted time.

I have a pet i could calll Wasted Time.

God fucking help Bob.

[Arkham Asylum]

hmmm
"...like that time Dave floated away."
"Bob help me"

maybe he's talking about Bob and David from Mr. Show.
Tool was on the first season

:P

.

Sure, Maynard's little blog update mentioned Bob. It could mean that AND also be a quick shout-out to his friends Bob Odenkirk and David Cross of Mr. Show.

[Peanut's Parents]

I know I'm forever late, but i argee with Blanket, It's Bob Ross

That guy was a undercover "G", with his afro and his tiny brushes that no one knew about.

But then cerally, Arkham might have it. Bob Odenkirk and David Cross. Maybe, just Maybe

[Inner_Eulogy]

.

Sure, Maynard's little blog update mentioned Bob. It could mean that AND also be a quick shout-out to his friends Bob Odenkirk and David Cross of Mr. Show.

Um, no

[Arkham Asylum]

Um, no

I actually agree with you. I've always assumed the lyrics referred to Robert (Bob) Anton Wilson (RAW); I figured that I'd at least mention Bob Odenkirk and David Cross just in case some people wanted to see it that way.

Anyway, due to your seemingly confident "um, no" , it appears you've solved the problem for yourself and would rather not hear other ideas so I suppose I'll stop talking here.

[Inner_Eulogy]

I actually agree with you. I've always assumed the lyrics referred to Robert (Bob) Anton Wilson (RAW); I figured that I'd at least mention Bob Odenkirk and David Cross just in case some people wanted to see it that way.

Anyway, due to your seemingly confident "um, no" , it appears you've solved the problem for yourself and would rather not hear other ideas so I suppose I'll stop talking here.

I just highly doubt it's a reference to anybody but god. He says "Bob help me" instead og "God help me"...unless you were just born, that's a pretty common phrase when in distress or dire trouble as was the subject of the song.