2006/11/25 - Glasgow, Scotland - SECC

[swaps]

Tool
SECC, Glasgow, Scotland
Saturday, November 25, 2006

[cremolafoam]

Excellent news on this new Scottish date. Hope the ticket info is released soon as I'd rather not get stuck in the seats at the soulless shed that is the SECC.

[Cows]

Superb. Any idea whether Isis will be supporting on the European dates?

[schismness]

as soon as anyone has info on ticket sales please please post asap ...this will be the best

[martyr]

how good is the secc as a venue?

[cadowsett]

This is indeed excellent news. I called the SECC today, and they have no idea about tickets yet. But i was told to keep checkin over the nexy week. So maybe in the next week!
Also the SECC is a pretty cool venue, i always enjoy gigs there, n the crowds are usually fantastic. Very good atmosphere, and very spacious!

[Cows]

how good is the secc as a venue?

It is a horrible venue, just like a big hanger or shed or something. I'm not a big fan of the Carling Acedemy either. Think the Barrowlands woulda been the best venue to see Tool, but ah well what can you do eh?

[toolloot]

When do the tickets go on sale?

[this_charming_ross]

really dissappointed theyr playin at the secc, carling academy is a much better venue, and you've got a much better chance of getting near the front

[Cows]

Come to think of it, the SECC is probably the only venue with a big enough stage to support all the screens and stuff, so maybe it is the best place to see them. I'm still interested to see if Isis are supporting in Europe, that would be niiice. I also heard a Mogwai rumour, probably quite unfounded though.

[ktdude]

Hey people, there's a presale up on Ticketmaster - http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/pre_sale/1575.html?camefrom=CFC_UKAFF_CCE_RUSH

but it's only for seated tickets. Will there BE standing tickets for Glasgow? I really want to go and don't want to risk missing out on tickets but am not a fan of sitting at gigs, especially in a big ol' arena. Can anyone with any info about SECC let me know? Is there normally a standing area? Do you think they will release the standing tickets at a later date? It's confusing me!!!

[Cows]

I would certainly rather have standing, and every gig i've been to at the secc so far has been standing. Sometimes, i think, it is all seated (Bob Dylan for example) but it's probably too early to start speculating. The seated tickets aren't even available to buy yet anyway. It does say 'over 14s/u16s with an adult' which would suggest standing.

[Murray]

Not a huge fan of the SECC but it'd be great to see Tool on a bigger stage that can handle the full stage show. Seen them in the Barras and Carling and because the stage space wasn't the largest there were restrictions in what the band could visually offer live.

I personally preferred this as it was great to see them with limited effects and letting the music do most of the work but it'll be interesting to see how it works this time.

And I wish they'd release dates of ticket sales alongside the confirmed dates. Don't want to be stuck in the work like last time when I could be on the phone ordering tickets!

[cadowsett]

Tickets for the whole tour are on sale from this friday (4th august) according to seetickets.com!!!!!!!

[ktdude]

It looks as if the presale for Glasgow starts tomorrow (Thurs 3rd) at 9am - here's the link - http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/pre_sale/1575.html?camefrom=CFC_UKAFF_CCE_RUSH

I'll be there, woo!

[ktdude]

Got me 2 tickets for standing in Glasgow, awesome!!! Anyone else got theirs?

[cremolafoam]

Got me 2 tickets for standing in Glasgow, awesome!!! Anyone else got theirs?

Yup, two standing tickets for me also. Can't wait until November!

[zico10]

Got me 2 tickets for standing in Glasgow, awesome!!! Anyone else got theirs?

got mine. seating, front and centre (i'm too auld for all that jumpin around). Cant wait

[ktdude]

I had a look on Google images as I've never been to the SECC before and it looked slightly smaller than normal arena size - is that right, or was it just a good photo? Here's the link actually - looks a bit ike Hammersmith Apollo - http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.firestarter.de/pics/history/history_gross/glasgow_2003.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.firestarter.de/html/history/glasgow2003.htm&h=506&w=709&sz=119&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=-okpi95vA0wNIM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dglasgow%2Bsecc%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den %26lr%3D

[cremolafoam]

I had a look on Google images as I've never been to the SECC before and it looked slightly smaller than normal arena size - is that right, or was it just a good photo? Here's the link actually - looks a bit ike Hammersmith Apollo - http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.firestarter.de/pics/history/history_gross/glasgow_2003.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.firestarter.de/html/history/glasgow2003.htm&h=506&w=709&sz=119&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=-okpi95vA0wNIM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dglasgow%2Bsecc%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den %26lr%3D

That doesn't look like the SECC at all - more like the Carling Academy. The SECC has no balcony, as far as I'm aware, in any of the halls.

Most of the concerts I've been to over the years in the SECC have been in Hall 4. You can see the set up here -

http://www.secc.co.uk/images/gallery/halls/hall_4_seated_8200.jpg

Standing will be in the front section which is filled with seats in this image.

[ktdude]

That doesn't look like the SECC at all - more like the Carling Academy. The SECC has no balcony, as far as I'm aware, in any of the halls.

Most of the concerts I've been to over the years in the SECC have been in Hall 4. You can see the set up here -

http://www.secc.co.uk/images/gallery/halls/hall_4_seated_8200.jpg

Standing will be in the front section which is filled with seats in this image.

It's weird I found that image, it's labelled SECC as well - guess someone was confused. The picture you sent still makes it look cool. Without the seating that's still fairly intimate by arena standards - I hope that is the layout they use. Thanks for that.

[Murray]

Got me 2 tickets for standing in Glasgow, awesome!!! Anyone else got theirs?

Yas! Got me a standin ticket also. Cant wait!

Murray-a-go-go

[newbornstorm]

the secc is awfully wide for a venue...that's what fucks up the sound (that along with shit speakers...oh well, it's tool, they'd be good playing to 40000 people in my living room...if rather cramped.

i got 4 tickets, now i only need to find another 3 people to go with...that should be easy.

[Cows]

Just ordered a coupla tickets. Alrite! Isis have added some more tour dates, some supporting Tool, but none Europe..

[schismness]

yeah i got 2 standing tickets this moorning cant wait

[fawks]

I got three tickets this morningm plus two tickets for the night before in Manchester MEN, all standing.
Looking forward to a grander stage show and *hopefully* a longer varied set!

[wittig]

Got my tickets on Sunday. Roll on November.

[cremolafoam]

Did anyone else ordering from TicketMaster via the presale get charged £30 per ticket instead of the later reduced price of £28.50? I did and I'm pretty pissed about it. I know it's only £1.50 per ticket but they already shafted me for just over £11 in other fees and delivery charges. Gonna give them a phone and see if I can get my £3.00 (for two tickets) refunded.

[ktdude]

Yeah man exactly the same happened to me - must have been something to do with presales as opposed to general sale - it sucks, only £1.50 as you say but I'm going to 4 gigs and they overcharged me on all of them. Let me know how you get on?

[cremolafoam]

Yeah man exactly the same happened to me - must have been something to do with presales as opposed to general sale - it sucks, only £1.50 as you say but I'm going to 4 gigs and they overcharged me on all of them. Let me know how you get on?

Nope, no luck. Phone TicketBastard's Customer Service line on 0870 153 5353 and was told that the price wasn't in their control and that since I accepted the price of each ticket as £30 at the time of booking, that's what they'd charge, despite the later reduction in price. I don't think £30 was a presale price as opposed to a general sale seeing the reduction was made during the presale. So if I had waited till about lunchtime to get my tickets rather than get in early at 9 am I would have paid £28.50. Whatever the reasons, that sucks big time. Even worse for you, ktdude, being charged the higher price for 4 tickets. I know £1.50 per ticket isn't a great deal of money but it's the principle of the thing.

[ktdude]

Nope, no luck. Phone TicketBastard's .
LOL :o)

Customer Service line on 0870 153 5353 and was told that the price wasn't in their control and that since I accepted the price of each ticket as £30 at the time of booking, that's what they'd charge, despite the later reduction in price. I don't think £30 was a presale price as opposed to a general sale seeing the reduction was made during the presale. So if I had waited till about lunchtime to get my tickets rather than get in early at 9 am I would have paid £28.50. Whatever the reasons, that sucks big time. Even worse for you, ktdude, being charged the higher price for 4 tickets. I know £1.50 per ticket isn't a great deal of money but it's the principle of the thing.

Well that's a great load of steaming bollocks isn't it. So our reward for being dedicated fans and getting in early is to be ripped off. Great. And the tickets are still on sale even now. Arse. Procrastination used to work so well for me, why did I give it up.

Oh well. Works out at about £15 overall, I could probably only have bought about 3 pints with that at the arena anyway.

[cremolafoam]

Well that's a great load of steaming bollocks isn't it. So our reward for being dedicated fans and getting in early is to be ripped off. Great.

Agreed. Won't ever be using TicketMaster again and will be going back to getting my tickets from Ticket Scotland's shop in Glasgow, taking my chance in the general sale. That'll cut out the exorbitant delivery fees TicketMaster charges as well. Paid something like £5.50 and I bet it will turn up in an ordinary envelope with a second class stamp.

Not going to let this spoil the concert though. Can't wait for November to see Tool for the second time in six months. It's going to be ace!

[newbornstorm]

i cannae remember what price they were at when i ordered them , but i think it was £28.50. i ordered them about 5pm on thursday. total of £132 for four, that works out about £4.50 extra per ticket. meh, i'm sure it'll be worth it, but gawdang!

[Cows]

I got mine in the pre-sale, and don't think i got charged extra, but it's always more expensive through Ticketmaster. Shoulda just waited and got them from Tickets Scotland...

[The Scottish Tool]

I JUST BOUGHT TIX OFf TICKETMASTER :]]]]]]
I missed the one in June so I was DEFINATELY not gonna miss out on this one.
...but i bought 2 tickets and none of my friends like tool...anyone wanna come with? I'm 17...50 year olds need not apply.

[martyr]

Standing, w00t

[martyr]

should i swap my standing for a seating in C?

[newbornstorm]

should i swap my standing for a seating in C?

depends, i like to be in the thick of things, and i'm only 5'9", i found at download and london in june that tool fans all seem to be rather tall. oh and if you're a whiney wimp when someone barges into you (no offence intended, but you do get them) then go seating.

[ktdude]

My little friend is sitting as she got so frustrated with not being able to see at Download and Hammersmith... I don't blame her, the visuals are pretty important with Tool after all. For me, standing all the way - I am 5'9" too and was fine at Download where I was at - although I totally agree about the tall Tool fans thing - there were heaps of massive people!!

[martyr]

im not too tall, i stood at the academy on the raised standing beside the bar and there were still tall folk in the way

[The Scottish Tool]

At least theres loads of room for parking at the secc, unlike barrowlands or somewhere more intown in Glasgow. Plus I wouldn't want to leave my car anywhere near the Barrowlands...shady Celtic supporting area...

[martyr]

lol. how mant people are you taking from edinburgh to glasgow?

[The Scottish Tool]

me and a friend.

[martyr]

doesnt matter, i was gonna ask for a lift for three of us (money would have been involved) but i dont know whats happenin yet.

it would save a crap bus journey

[ktdude]

1 month today people!! RAWK!

[martyr]

I WANT MY TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:(

SCOTLAND ROOOOOOOLLLLSSSSS

[ktdude]

Scotland rolls? like, what does it roll?

[martyr]

stfu you harpy

[ktdude]

stfu you harpy
why do you make me cry when I love you so?

[cremolafoam]

Yes! My tickets arrived at the ungodly hour of 8 am this morning. Really looking forward to this show now, especially with the varied setlist. Anyone else got their tickets they ordered from TicketMaster?

[ktdude]

my friends got theirs yesterday but ours didn't turn up - hoping they will today

[martyr]

I WANT MY TICKETS

[ktdude]

mine came but I was out - picking them up tomorrow. just wembley tickets outstanding now.

[martyr]

I have not recieved any tickets.

[ktdude]

it's a conspiracy. alert the authorities immediately

[martyr]

I got told be be quiet.

[The Scottish Tool]

anybody want a meet-up. mARTYr and ktdude, im looking at you two.

[The Scottish Tool]

wait, kt, dont you come from Newcastle...?
Is Glasgow the closest date to the North-East?

[ollie]

hpoe the crowd gives tool a better reception than it did during the gig in june!never been in a crowd as maynard said was so "unenthused"!!!

[ktdude]

wait, kt, dont you come from Newcastle...?
Is Glasgow the closest date to the North-East?
yeah it is just about... although I'm catching some of their other dates too. good excuse for a holiday, getting drunk in Dublin etc :)

[martyr]

anybody want a meet-up. mARTYr and ktdude, im looking at you two.

What time will you get into Glasgow? We could go for drinks before......

[ktdude]

What time will you get into Glasgow? We could go for drinks before......
I'm up for that... with/without entourages?

[martyr]

Together, as lovers.

[ktdude]

Together, as lovers.
beautiful... I will be my preparations as we speak

[Doogie]

It seems I'm not the only one waiting for tickets then? Slightly reassuring. Any word on the support yet? I've heard Isis and Mastodon from various peeps.

[ktdude]

It seems I'm not the only one waiting for tickets then? Slightly reassuring. Any word on the support yet? I've heard Isis and Mastodon from various peeps.
Mastodon dude.

[Doogie]

Smashing.

I've high hopes for this gig. I was ever so slightly miffed after my first one, at the Carling Academy. The sound just seemed...off a bit. Looking forward to Wings and a decent light show this time.

I'm trying not to get too worked about about the tickets not having turned up. I ordered them the day they went on sale, but I can't do anything until 7 days prior.

[ktdude]

Smashing.

I've high hopes for this gig. I was ever so slightly miffed after my first one, at the Carling Academy. The sound just seemed...off a bit. Looking forward to Wings and a decent light show this time.
they've dropped Wings dude... for now anyway. so don't get your hopes up.

also it wouldn't hurt to phone Ticketmaster... I got my tickets over a week ago and so did quite a few others, so you may as well ask at least - if they've sent them all yours might have got lost in the post or something.

[Doogie]

they've dropped Wings dude... for now anyway. so don't get your hopes up.

also it wouldn't hurt to phone Ticketmaster... I got my tickets over a week ago and so did quite a few others, so you may as well ask at least - if they've sent them all yours might have got lost in the post or something.

You've just destroyed me in two swift blows. I was looking forward to Wings more than antything for this month.

And as for lost in the post? Well that hadn't even occured to me, now I'm terrified that 's what has happened.

Gosh darn it.

[ktdude]

sorry dude :)

in better news, wings was back in the set last night. I think it's hit or miss, we could be lucky, or maybe not. phone ticketmaster, it will all be good. panic not. have a beer.

[Doogie]

Ah, so there is hope for Wings then. I reckon we'll get it. I have a feeling....
Saying that, the crowd at the Carling Academy wasn't too receptive, so it might be off the setlist already.

As for the tickets, well, my mate booked them so as soon as he drags his ass online I;ll get him to phone up. Gah!

EDIT: Got an email, they're on their way. I look like a tit now.

[martyr]

I got my tickets today.

Lol ktdude is destroying people's hopes once again.

[martyr]

Wings is back :(

[ktdude]

I got my tickets today.

Lol ktdude is destroying people's hopes once again.
yeah, it's my life's work

what do you care what they play anyway, you don't even like Tool

[martyr]

All I wanna do is see you :(

[ktdude]

All I wanna do is see you :(
your mission will be accomplished. in just 9 short days... count them! count them goddammit!

[martyr]

So cold.......

[ktdude]

drink some scotch and wrap a nice tartan rug around your wee shoulders

[martyr]

lol

[Doogie]

Wings is back :(

Why so sad? Have you no soul?

[martyr]

My sould dies when shit like 10,000 Days comes out.

[ktdude]

Why so sad? Have you no soul?
no dude, he doesn't avoid this man at all costs as he intends to steal the soul of another.

[Doogie]

no dude, he doesn't avoid this man at all costs as he intends to steal the soul of another.

*Makes mental note to avoid the Scrubs janitor at the SECC*

[ktdude]

*Makes mental note to avoid the Scrubs janitor at the SECC*
that is an apt description of this man. I like it!

[martyr]

But I am bearded.......:(

[Doogie]

But I am bearded.......:(

I'm already shitting myself at the prospect of bumping into you on Saturday. I'm not sure I can face going anymore now...

[ktdude]

lol... I wouldn't dude. either that or make sure you hide behind danny

[Doogie]

lol... I wouldn't dude. either that or make sure you hide behind danny

And risk getting battered by Maynard in front of everyone? Not a chance.

[martyr]

I look likr Thor :(

[ktdude]

I look likr Thor :(
it's not a bad thing dude... embrace your inner norwegian

[martyr]

Viking, please.

[ktdude]

Viking, please.
you want fries with that?

[Jambi's_mum]

Anyone else going to Glasgow tomorrow? Fancy meeting for a few drinks? I'm going on my own at the moment :-(

[martyr]

nah, we are too cool for you.

[pandora's paradox]

SEE YOU ALL TONIGHT!!!!

...maybe