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07-22-2006, 01:43 PM
SETLIST --

Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
The Pot
Forty-Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
(interlude)
Vicarious
Aenema

Wings for Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus



*DO NOT POST IF YOU WERE NOT AT THE SHOW!

kabir
09-05-2006, 10:35 PM
* space reserved for kabir's review. why? because i can. see you all there.

enklined
09-08-2006, 10:20 PM
On the way to my friends house from the concert. i'm drained...BECAUSE IT ROCKED! more later...........

BlueHalo
09-08-2006, 10:43 PM
Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
The Pot
46 & 2
Jambi
Schism
Vicarious
Aenema
Wings for Marie
10,000 days
Lateralus

correct me if I'm wrong, I'll write more later.

xxjedixknightxx
09-08-2006, 10:46 PM
well this makes my 12 show in the span of 12 years 94'-06'. for all of u who didnt see it .....hahaha sucks being you.
id have to give this one a 9 out of 10 ,still nothing beats seeing them at the pladium in 98' to witness the first time they played the extended Pushit.........or the pussy singing a very lounge style Hooker
much better then last night and yes they played wings for marie / 10,000 days
nice to see adam give maynard a hug after 10k

lethargychick
09-08-2006, 11:02 PM
Maynard! Why do you fuck with us so?!

We absolutely love it.

The re-arranging from last night was an excellent change. I was very worried that it would follow the exact same pattern. Even though this was a tighter show than last night, I feel like the Thursday concert was much more emotional and inspiring.

But then again, maybe that's because last 10,000 Days was the shock of the evening, while tonight it was absolutely essential.

Nonetheless, Tool is an experience that can not ever been missed.

Paradigm619
09-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
The Pot
Forty-Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
(interlude)
Vicarious
Aenema
Wings for Marie
10,000 Days
Lateralus

Great show. The vocals were a little muddy I thought. Wings sounded 10 times better tonight than it did last night. I was a little higher up and more towards the center of the arena, and it was awesome to be able to really look at both the videos and the band. Maynard didn't say much (although more than last night), he mostly just bitched and moaned about VIPs and LA sucking.

Although the didn't play any new songs from last night, the rearranging of the order was refreshing. And in my opinion, Lateralus is a much better closer than Aenema.

divinegaze
09-08-2006, 11:12 PM
What a show!! The seating on the floor was gay. I had a better view at the Bakersfield show and the sound was better there too. But the L.A. crowd was more receptive as we should and the boys appreciated it. Staples Center was LOUD.

Maynard under the weather? A Maynardism " could been at the bus jerking off to some porn dvd's"


The highlights of course was Jambi, Rosetta Stoned, Wings/10,000 days and Lateralus.


10,000 days rawked!!!

fateless
09-08-2006, 11:15 PM
Amazing-again! We had most of the same songs as last night but in a slightly different order. We didn't get Right in Two, but as you can see from the setlist we got Wings for Marie and 10K Days. When the band started with Rosetta Stoned I was hoping we would get a setlist with some different songs, but I wasn't disappointed.

This was my last show for this tour, and the band was great. I'm so glad Maynard is singing where we can see him and witness the connection he has with his bandmates. It is really incredible. Once again another awesome show I'm so glad I experienced.

lauralynn
09-08-2006, 11:26 PM
Great show, equal to last night imo. although it was nice to hear the songs mixed up after seeing six shows with this same set list.
best part of the night....meeting everyone from this site at the bar before the show. still owe ya one kabir :)

justfar1086
09-08-2006, 11:37 PM
What an amazing experience going to see Tool both nights at the Staples Center. Both shows were uniquely different, yet equally amazing. And going tonight with my three best buds made it even better. Thank you TOOL.

Spaceman Spiff
09-08-2006, 11:37 PM
We were a little bit late, and I guess we missed meeting up with anyone, and some dicks below us started throwing drinks up and ruined the last bit of the last song, put a bit of a damper on things but great show. Seemed a bit short though.

EDIT:

I thought the show was great - as did my wife for whom it was a first time seeing Tool, though she's been a fan as long as anyone here - was hoping to see more visuals during "Rosetta" and pleasantly surprised when they included the "Lost Keys" intro. It was cool how they gradually brought more visuals in as the show progressed. The acoustics weren't the best, but not the worst, either... I could understand the lyrics quite well (with the exception of "Rosetta," heh) despite being up in the 300's. Maynard's comments were hard to understand a couple times, though. It was a good view of the stage, lasers (which didn't look too cheesy from where we were), and screens. I'd still like to see some different songs in the set, maybe they'll mix it up a little more if they come back around next year. The alternate versions were a nice spin, though.

SterileEyes
09-08-2006, 11:52 PM
Just got home.

In a nutshell, great show, great visuals, they were sick/under the weather...or 'perhaps we are allergic to L.A.' as Maynard said.

Musically spot on, loved Rosetta, Jambi, and Lateralus...we got shorted Right In Two and Sober, but I had a great time.

Most nazi security ever. Oh I loved the Schism speed-up. Wings sounded great too.

I was 10th row center...I'm looking forward to seeing them do a different set next tour. No complaints this time, but since it was an 11 song set, that means there's 30 others I can't wait to hear live sometime.

Cheers Tool, get well soon...thanks for Wings

sonnyboy11
09-09-2006, 12:14 AM
Loved the new setlist order. I think it made sense to tinker with it a bit and try to find a true home for Wings/10,000 Days. Tonight the pieces of the puzzle just seemed to fit better than last night, and gone was the angst over performing Wings for the first time. I did not think any show could top last night's, but I was wrong. Tonight was more fluid and tighter (cept I was missing Right In Two). I had a great time!

Big 'Hello' to all my new TDN friends that I met at the Harbor bar. A real pleasure to meet all of you. Let's hope we can do all of this again real soon.

-Mike

rottenvicious462
09-09-2006, 12:16 AM
Tonight was my first Tool show, although I have been a fan since longer than I can remember, and all I have left to say is: that was so god damn beautiful.

LOOP
09-09-2006, 12:25 AM
I had a great time. I was in PR3 both nights, and tonight the band was just more together. The lasers were better tonight but the sound seemed far less flawless with a couple mishaps (except for 10kdays/wings). Still f'n awesome. I far prefer lateralus as the closing song compared to Aenema. Staples center concert security getting in was the least obtrusive search ever. It was like going to a Clipper game. they didnt frisk you or check your pockets, jsut a walk through a metal detector. During Aenema, Maynard sang the 'fuck all you junkies and fuck your short memories' verse 3 times as he did in Bakersfield as well

nthistogether
09-09-2006, 12:26 AM
Great show, even evil security couldn't put a damper on it. I didn't expect too many surprises, to be honest, but I definitely got a few.To name a few... Lost Keys/Rosetta as the opener, and the lasers (which had clouds in them every now and then, anyone else notice that/ I didn't even know that was possible). I thought Isis rawked pretty hard, too.

And to all the nice folks who met at the bar, it was great meeting all of you, hope you enjoyed the show.

finnegans wake
09-09-2006, 12:39 AM
Wings for Marie
10,000 days

wow

very emotional. the visuals were amazing (dark flowing clouds). i watched with my mouth open the whole time. i looked around to see couples embracing each other, and there was a smile on my face. and seeing adam give maynard a hug after the song was the icing on the cake. i wish on everything that i could have gone to both nights, but in a way i feel for me personally that seeing tool several times would spoil it. right now i have this sad, happy feeling. like i want more, but i can't have anymore until maybe a year from now.

got to meet some interesting people. ran into an old friend that i hadn't seen in over 5 years. overall great night.

SELF is SHED
09-09-2006, 01:11 AM
I was drawn to tears...it was so beautiful. One of the greatest nights of my life. The lasers were sick. Everyone was flawless...the new double time part in schism was amazing....the setlist was to die for.

SupaDupaNerd
09-09-2006, 01:20 AM
I don't know what to say about tonights performance as, i thought last nights was better then tonights. Granted we again were blessed with the exception of sober tonight (really guys, they have far better songs performed live in thier limited stage time). I'd post more but i have to report to work tomorrow to perform network maintenence. I'll post more tomorrow. Thanks for the beer Laura!!!

dave
09-09-2006, 01:24 AM
I went to both shows and they both had their advantages. The first one got Right in Two which I would have loved to hear during the second one, and the new solo during stinkfist during the second show was wiiiicked. Also, best Wings for Marie has ever sounded for me...I like the song(s) a lot more now. Some of you probably saw us, we were directly diagnoal to the main entrance of the Staples center in the parking lot with a bigass black truck blasting 10,000 days....one of the guys with us was trying to sell his TOOL pipe he made last night....he still has one left that I may have to buy. Anyway, great shows.

+void+
09-09-2006, 02:18 AM
Ok this was my 7th Tool show since 2001. Isis were great, short but sweet set. I was really dissapointed by some things. The band was dead on most of the time. The sound was horrible though, too loud and everything was echoing becoming a huge wall of noise at times. Danny's drums sounded really bad for some reason. I'm guessing cause Staples Center's sound suck ass. It's meant for basketball and hockey not music.

Maynard obviously doesn't give a shit anymore and it shows, he was so unanimated and off-key a lot, messed up some lyrics. Maybe cause he was sick? He just seems like a rockstar asshole now. The light shows (lasers, christmas lights) were extremly tacky, cheap and stupid. Something you'd expect to see at a Def Lepperd show in 1987. Videos were impossible to see from the floor.

Overall band played great with shitty sound/shitty Maynard and you should wait until they change the bad stage set-up to see them live if you haven't yet.

P.S. - Wings was truthfully kind of boring, most people left to take bathroom breaks and stuff like that during the whole thing.

Carny_Handles
09-09-2006, 02:49 AM
^^ I agree with you on some points.

This is my 5th tool show since 1997 and i can honestly say it was the worst. Every show prior to this one, i felt uplifted, tingly throughout. But tonight’s show just seemed boring, i think the band was pretty unenthused. Maynard rarely spoke, which i know is maynardesque but usually he has some positive words to say that make you think, and you take home with you. This time its just "im sick" and im going to jack off in the trailer.. wow inspiring nard!


I thought the sound was pretty shitty too, maybe its where I sat but you couldnt really pick much out, it was muddled together and just plain LOUD in a bad way. Tool has been loud before, but not to the point where it affects sound quality. The croud here in LA didnt seem too enthusiastic, not too many people got off their asses where i was (right of the stage, in some bleachers) There was this one chick on X who was quite fun to watch, she was really getting into 10,000 days. She would sway and rub her tits and do some very sexual things, i even caught a peek at her when she was rubbing her 'fun zone' for a couple of seconds.

The video's were boring, im disappointed there was no video for Rosetta stoned this time. I liked the old lateralus setup, very colorful and the two tv screens were the best setup IMO.

Anyways, i will always be a fan and will continue to support them live, i just hope next tour picks up a bit. I remember the second go around of lateralus was better than their first, so hopefully this is the same case

+void+
09-09-2006, 03:12 AM
^^ I agree with you on some points.

I'm glad to see that someone else noticed the same things I noticed.

I just almost felt bad...like "this can't be...I'm getting bored at a Tool show!" one of my favorite bands. Oh well, every band ever has played bad shows/shitty venues, so what the hey.

I'll check back in with them again next tour.

DDathcha
09-09-2006, 07:42 AM
Most nazi security ever.

I couldn't stand the security. They were rude, overzealous and needed to relax. I was 9th row center and almost got into it with a female security guard, and at the end of the show a co-worker of the guard who got in my face gave me some half-cocked warning of "if you would just mind your business you would enjoy the show more." ooooooooohhhhhhhh makes me MAAAD. Great show though!

CrownOfNegativity
09-09-2006, 08:08 AM
Words can not describe how awesome this show, my first Tool show, was. The setlist, I felt, was perfect with Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned as the opener and Wings/10,000 Days during the "encore." They absolutely nailed Wings! And Lateralus! Holy shit! The sound was bad in the beginning for Rosetta Stoned (could barely hear Maynard until the "Overwhelmed as one would be..." part, where I could hear him clearly. Maybe that's just how it's supposed to sound on that song though since every other song was pretty clear? Anyways, first Tool show and I am very pleased with the result! It was AMAZING. Best concert I've ever seen. Hands down. Although I was somewhat disappointed that they didn't play Right In Two...not a big deal though.

I was kind of worried that they wouldn't play Wings last night, but when Vicarious rolled around before the "encore," I knew what we were in store for. As I said before, they nailed it.

Anyways, great show and one that I'll never forget. I hope I can catch them next time around, maybe next year.

Haha, and as you guys said before, security was a BITCH.

All in all, great show, best I've been to, yadda yadda.

mjkane14
09-09-2006, 08:51 AM
Tool part 7 for me. A flawless evening from every standpoint. Somehow me and my buddy got from San Diego to LA in 3 hours during Friday afternoon rush hour, so we had plenty of time to get sweet parking and put down a few before the show. Security was good to us. Pointed us right to our 20th row seats. Being 6'3" the seating on the floor is ideal because I could see everything, including Maynard's feet waiving back and forth when the band was sitting together on stage.

I had never seen Rosetta Stoned live. The song has so much energy and should be the start of every Tool show I believe. The new twists in Stinkfist and Schism are amazing, its always fascinating to hear something you've never heard before. The mouth guitar solo in Jambi is my favorite part in any Tool song, and its even better live. Wings part I and II, what can I say, those songs are the most well written songs I've ever heard.

If Maynard was sick I commend him for sucking it up so we could enjoy the show. To the people putting down the quality of the show I'm guessing you didn't notice Maynard repeated the line "Fuck all you junkies and Fuck your short memory."

Alex in Chains
09-09-2006, 09:16 AM
My sixth Tool show. Awesome. While we didn't hear anything they didn't already play last night (and even got one song fewer), it more than made up for the shitfest which was Street Scene. I'll post more very soon, but I'm need to eat first. I just really didn't want to be on the eighth or ninth page here. Meh.

EDIT: All righty then.

Picture this if you will:

10 to 6 pm, listening to "Right in Two" on the tail end of a marathon Opiate/Undertow/Ænima/Lateralus/10,000 Days session to prepare myself for my sixth Tool concert, fantasizing about what they might play tonight when just then my flaming friend Pat knocked on my door like I had expected him to a half hour ago. Finishing the song and driving up to Hell-Ay for the show and paying for parking left us yelping, "Holy fucking shit. $25.00 for this shady little parking lot."

Inside, the X-Files beings known as TDNers were congregating at the Harbor Bar, basking in their own Toolish nerdiness and waiting for a brown guy in a black Tool shirt to come grace us with his Ivy League presence. I didn’t have time to buy The Leader a beer because he didn’t arrive until about 8:45 and we had to get up to the nosebleed section in time for the show; I was flattered, however, when he said, "I’ve known your name for fucking years," and even more flattered when, drunk on the power of his own website, he grabbed my ass and whispered something about me being his chosen one as I walked away, heading to the bathroom so that the Jack-and-Cokes wouldn’t make me piss my fucking pants.

Okay, I’ll stop that. Anyway, the show was awesome. I wanted to do a little song-by-song, as I don’t think I’ve ever written a review that way before. Enjoy.

ROSETTA STONED
After a minute or two of "Lost Keys," Maynard took the stage walking slowly back and forth, and I wondered if I was the only one who was reminded of Bill Hicks (maybe it was the cowboy hat). There were some serious sound problems early on, as the vocals were entirely too quiet, but things improved toward the end of the song (in time for the "Overwhelmed as one would be" section, which is my favorite part of the new record). Very cool to see this, as the caveman antics of the meatheads at Street Scene had cost us this song. Unfortunately, there were no visuals (and that was the only toolband.com newsletter I had ever read in its entirety), but I still really enjoyed it.

STINKFIST
One of the best jams I’ve heard them do. Lights were very cool, and the stage definitely had some kind of backlighting that was badass. It was after this song that Pat’s girlfriend, a Tool concert virgin (and very inexperienced even with their music), turned to him and said, "That was incredible." Also, the sound mix was very good by this point.

THE POT
Full-on visuals now. I don’t know if they had problems early on or what. Nothing really to report except for the slower intro and, as always, the cool visuals.

FORTY-SIX & 2
I actually went to the bathroom at the beginning of this song (the Jack-and-Cokes went right through me, and I knew this was likely to be my least favorite song played that night), returning in time for Danny’s drum solo. The Ouroboros visuals were quite cool; I saw the lone one in the beginning and the tunnel of them later on. I’d actually like to see the whole thing at some point.

JAMBI
Oh, man, this song is so good live. This was probably my favorite at Street Scene (and second favorite tonight; you know why). Some of the better visuals of the current tour, and just a rocking song. They should consider opening (or even closing) with this, I think.

SCHISM
Didn’t really remember the "double-time" section from San Diego, so very enjoyable.

VICARIOUS
This song is so good live. I like that they now pause before the second verse. It seems they were really thinking about their live show with the new record; some of these songs just have opportunities for cool little flourishes built right in.

ÆNEMA
Maynard made it sound like this would be the last song, and since they’ve closed every (?) show with it this year, I was a little worried. It had only been about an hour. "They can't be finished yet," I thought. LA is the best place to see this song, and Maynard’s repetition of "Fuck retro anything" section was a gift from God, as it got the obnoxious, off-key motherfucker next to me to shut up for a few seconds.

WINGS FOR MARIE
So, I think everyone was expecting this. Adam’s guitar was a little drowned out by Maynard near the beginning, but things quickly sounded incredible, minus the crowd screaming. Why is it that everyone has to be loud whenever the band is quiet? Pretty flawless performance leading right into . . .

10,000 DAYS
Just amazing. There’s not really much I can say about this two-part epic; you just need to see it. Maynard came in too early at the "Hallelujah" line, but the band covered for him nicely. I think the most impressive thing about this was the vocals, which were absolutely perfect. Justin’s playing and tone were excellent, too. Danny tried some new rolls (some more successful than others), and Adam's raw tone was actually kind of welcome, providing an interesting contrast.

LATERALUS
Justin’s bass was a little too quiet, but this was overall one of the best performances of the night. I’ll always think "Ænema" is a better closer, but it was kind of refreshing to see this instead. While the visuals were great all night, they were probably strongest during this and the magnum opus before it. I like the spiral of people.

To wrap this up, I’ll just say that this was one of the best Tool shows I’ve seen. The band was excellent, and even though we missed out on "Right in Two," I like that they changed up the setlist a little, even if it was just the sequence. It actually kept me guessing, as I wondered after "Rosetta Stoned," "Ænema," and "10,000 Days," "Are they going to surprise us? Is this going to be the let’s-go-crazy show?" I couldn’t be disappointed with "Wings" and "10,000 Days"; they could have played Green Day covers for the rest of the show and I wouldn’t complain. See them. On this tour. And every tour.

Anyone else take the 405 South to get home? Who decided it was a good idea to take the freeway down to one lane at Beach Blvd AT MIDNIGHT ON A FRIDAY?

PS - Kabir, Mike, et al, it was great to meet you. See you next time, I hope.

PPS - Where is Peeping Tom? Tool gets Fantomas and Tomahawk to open for them, but when mike Patton does his first good thing since Faith No More, he’s nowhere to be found. I didn’t bother to watch Isis. At the very least, bring Tricky back, Tool.

axis
09-09-2006, 09:34 AM
This was my first Tool concert, I was sitting in a suite off to the right. It just didn't sound right, too loud and too muddy. I wasn't really impressed with a song until Lateralus, which I thought was incredible. I did enjoy the Jambi solo, it always sends chills down my spine and last night was no different. But, I think I need to see them at another venue, because the glass suite and being 10 feet from two columns of speakers probably didn't help me.

Duncantsimms
09-09-2006, 09:38 AM
Sorry for the long post, I don’t do this very often and I have a lot to say right now.

This was my 8th TOOL show this year, I was at Coachella, I saw them up close in Vegas and in Tempe, almost lost my life in San Diego but somehow remained front row center for the entire show. I spent both nights camping at the Gorge, (What an after party!!) 4th row in Marysville, enjoyed my visit to beautiful Bakersfield and was there for Fridays Staples center show. This was my 32nd TOOL show, here's what I think of the 2006 Tour.

The band sounds tight, Danny has never been better, he continues to grow as a musician each day, he has a TRUE passion for percussion and it shows. Justin is always rock solid, I love effects he is doing on the new songs. Adam seemed to be struggling at times, but was overall on cue.

I saw Maynard sing Joni Mitchell’s fiddle and a drum at the LA axis of Justice Show a few years back. He was wearing jeans, a tight white g-mart t-shirt, and a cowboy hat. Cool!! I was surprised to see him wearing the same outfit at Coachella, what!!! He’s still wearing it? What happened to that painted, glowing shadow daemon that we all came to love. He's not even moving up there. He may have been sick last night, but he hasn't moved once at any of the eight shows I’ve seen. He may have a bad ankle or something else that we don’t know about, but if not, I am at a loss for words.

The stage setup looks great from up high, especially when they get everything going, but there is too much white for my liking. The lasers are Gay and the set list has been pretty boring so far. I did get to hear Opiate 2 times so I guess I can't complain too much. I don’t know if I’ve changed or if TOOL has, sometimes you just don’t see straight if you know what I mean.

TOOL will always be TOOL, I know that. It’s not up to me to decide what the stage set up looks like, or to choose the set list. Maynard can continue to stand still and ride his mike stand like a cowboy, it’s not up to me. I have forever and will always be a FAN in the true sense of the word. To date, I have not felt this way about a TOOL tour, I only pray that heaven knows when to lift them out. Because after 32 days in the fire, I’m going home.

metalwarriorx
09-09-2006, 10:03 AM
I went to both shows and they both had their advantages. The first one got Right in Two which I would have loved to hear during the second one, and the new solo during stinkfist during the second show was wiiiicked. Also, best Wings for Marie has ever sounded for me...I like the song(s) a lot more now. Some of you probably saw us, we were directly diagnoal to the main entrance of the Staples center in the parking lot with a bigass black truck blasting 10,000 days....one of the guys with us was trying to sell his TOOL pipe he made last night....he still has one left that I may have to buy. Anyway, great shows.

your friend was selling the pipe for 200 $ ha i was interested in buying it though


the visuals during lateralus were very good and it was the perfect song to end on. i was seated pretty high up so i couldnt see the band that well, they looked like ants. during roseta stoned maynard was walking around a lot i thought that was cool. i thought it was a pretty short set and i wanted to see reflection live. but the vibe was really good and tight performance.

Captain_Stupendous
09-09-2006, 10:17 AM
This was my third show and I cannot express how unbelievably jacked up for the experience I was before the show began. I went with a long-time friend who had never seen TOOL play before but is a huge fan of their craft.

We were seated in PR9 and for the first 3 songs or so, I actually thought this was some kind of joke being played on the crowd by a band that resembled TOOL, and then the four horsemen were going to pop out from behind the stage and say "HA HA! Gotcha! Now let's really get this show started." The sound was horrific. Muddled, disjointed and impossible to discern any actual lyrics. I saw the first show of the season at Coachella in April and they were unbelievably tight and the sound was fantastic. Much better stage layout too. It has to be an arena problem. Staples just isn't designed with acoustics in mind. The other thing I noticed was that the first three songs didn't have visuals on the jumbo-tron hanging in the center. I actually sat down as the second song started, feeling completely dejected by how off it felt. I actually contemplated leaving at one point because I couldn't believe this was the same band.

It wasn't until I started walking about outside in the hallway and listening from various angles that I could actually believe it was really TOOL playing. I grabbed my friend and we 'befriended' a bunch of guys in a private box located center stage. From that point forward the show was excellent. You could actually hear the instruments and not just a deluge of unintelligble sound. Maynard's voice was definitely off though.

Overall, it was not the mind-blowing, uplifting, spiritually gratifying experience I have come to count on from their music. Something was just off. I have to catch them again at an outdoor venue on this tour, hopefully when Maynard is at 100% again. I loved the repetition of "fuck all you junkies and fuck your short memory's"....Maynard is hysterical when he wants to be.

Thanks to Jason and the rest of the folks in the box that allowed Jordan and I to share your vantage point and gave us seats front and center! You kick ass! If it wasn't for that saving grace, I would have left feeling somehow cheated.

Thanks to the band for sharing Wings/10,000 Days. Would have like to hear Right in Two, but Lateralus definitely rocked as usual. New visuals are excellent!

Towelie
09-09-2006, 10:32 AM
I want to apoligize to Kabir because I didn't get to buy him a beer. I was walking in circles with my Towelie shirt on in the area we were supposed to meet and greet. Maybe I was in the wrong area? I was by the food/drinking area by section 101. I'm a towel so anything is possible. Nobody called me over and I didn't recognize anyone so, I just ordered some beer for myself and went to find my seat.

I want to give out thanks to Tool. Thank you for last night. I appreciated the encore. That was special. I appreciate the band hanging out on stage during the break. I had my lighter out for as long as I could (my fingers started burning).

Memorable moments for me:

1. Breaking out the pipe and getting high to The Pot.
2. Hugging my dear friend Shane during Jambi. He kept telling me not to cry but I did.
3. I felt at home and so did everyone including the band. There was a lot of respect and admiration for everyone who paid to be there.
4. Wings for Marie / 10,000 Days was Awesome. I miss you Dad. The crowd witnessed and accepted sorrow. So did our friend Maynard. And, so did I.

Thanks everyone. You guys were a great crowd to hang with.

DENOTS_ATTESOR
09-09-2006, 10:48 AM
I went last night and thought that the sound was really loud, but not muddled at all. I guess it boils down to where you were seated. I was in the KCAL/CBS box (A-42) and saw & heard everything. The lasers were not Def Leppard-ish as mentioned above, they were very cool from above. Set list was very nice even though with so much talk of Right In Two I was a tad dissapointed. The stage itself was very cool if you saw it from above as it mirrored the jumbo screens. Favorite songs were Wings/10,000 Days and ROSETTA STONED! You really have to high-five the band for mixing up these shows. By the way, 5th show since 1996 and they never fail to impress the hell out me.

Oops, neglected to mention the voice-box on Jambi. Adam's the man!

DENOTS_ATTESOR

right_in_three
09-09-2006, 11:26 AM
First Tool show. I wish I would've seen them earlier on this tour so the addition of "Wings" would have been more powerful. I guess I did miss out from the Thursday show.

I was seated in row 12 of section 301, so I was way up. It wasn't bad at all, even when Isis played. Couldn't hear the vocals at all but the music was pretty atmospheric and the band was definitely into it. I may have to check them out.

I thought Danny's set was bigger in real life but I was so high up it didnt really matter. After Lost Keys they went into Rosetta Stoned, which is a great song, I just didn't favor it as an opener. As an earlier post stated, I couldn't hear any vocals clearly until the "overwhelmed as one might be...." part. Still was sweet...I wish there were visuals though.

When they went into Stinkfist, that set me off. They had the screens on the stage and everything and it was tight as heck. The extended middle was nice too, it made the song much more climactic. I didn't much get to enjoy 46 & 2 because the two idiots next to me claimed I was in their seat but they were in the wrong section. The fool had to get out his lighter and look at his tickets, our tickets, and then in turn proceed to ask those around him what section he was in. Thankfully him and his friend left after that song. I did get to catch Danny's drum solo in the song, which was breathtaking to say the least. The end was rocking as well.

Now I know that most kids who think of Tool think of Schism, and that there are far better pieces by them....but I almost lost it on that song. Especially when they sped up the middle and had the whole thing synced to the videos. Friggin amazing. I wanted to cry during Jambi because that is one of my favortie Tool songs (it goes in phases, Pushit, Prison Sex, etc) right now. As stated before the talk box solo was awesome and a nice touch. I know I forgot to mention the Pot but I wont say much besides that Maynard started singing and let the crowd finish the first line.....my friend didnt know what was going on. Good song though.

The spacey intro to Vicarious kills me every time. The whammy on the bass is just so lovely, I can't get enough of it. I thought it sounded nice and Danny's fill after the first chorus sounded perfect. Justin's little mini-solo and the orgasmic end were both just fantastic. Loved it, the visuals, the lights, etc.

I read the reviews from the previous night had learned that Aenema was the closer...didn't mind, but when they played it after Vicarious, I was kinda happy. It was still amazing and was funny as heck to hear live. The build-up at the end left me out of breath as the band sat down to take a breather as well. I knew that Wings was coming so I braced myself. I couldnt even really hear Adam's guitar in the beginnig and caught Maynard's vocals around the "you believed in me" part. Somebody needed to turn up the mic.....and what can I say about 10,000 days except that it owned.

Could't have been happier about the band's choice of playing Lateralus last. A very very epic song and it's length suited the finale well. I wanted to like float away on a spiral or something, it was awesome. I understand we got cheated out of Right In Two and the two old guys next to me kept saying something about "they have to play Sober, they have to...". Whatever. All I know is it went way too fast.

Glad I went, I know it compares nothing to shows they've had based on what some of you say but it was my first so I have nothing to compare it to.

SterileEyes
09-09-2006, 12:19 PM
Random thought - security almost completely ruined the show for me. They barged into my row 6 times to do such heroic things as: tell people they couldn't rest their feet on the empty seats in the row in front of them during the opening act, taking folks' joints and pipes away, etc.

I thought being in the 10th row was awesome, and yeah, they have no business ruining my experience like that to tell people they can't have a joint at a rock concert...at my expense.

They showed up literally half a dozen times in an 11 song set, shining their flashlights and pushing us aside so they could barge through the row. I even looked for a complaint # to call at Staples but of course there is none. A great suggestion for the Staples Center: If you don't want weed being smoked in your venue, don't host rock concerts.

EGG-MAN
09-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Aenima, Wings Duo, Lateralus best 35 minutes of music ever...

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tmacmatt
09-09-2006, 01:18 PM
All of these people who say that this show was terrible...what are you smoking? This show was the single best concert I have been to, and I have been to a lot. It will be the concert I compare all others to. If you don't like it, well get better seats next time because I could hear everything perfectly. When I say perfectly, I mean, I didn't miss a lyric. The lights and lasers we amazing, they really added to the whole experience. I LOVED Lateralus as a closer. Best. Concert. Ever.

Corinthian
09-09-2006, 01:50 PM
WOW! Seriously intense show.

Completely baffled as to how they can do something so amazing night after night.

Such a great experience.

Carbine000
09-09-2006, 01:56 PM
"Are the VIP's here yet? Can we start the show?" -maynard

CrownOfNegativity
09-09-2006, 03:09 PM
"Are the VIP's here yet? Can we start the show?" -maynard

I loved that part.

By the way, does anyone know if there are any bootlegs of this show? If so, can you please direct me to them?

SupaDupaNerd
09-09-2006, 03:16 PM
Now i can write a proper interpretation/review of last nights show.

Last night my seat was in Floor section 2, 24 rows back and this was my sixth show (fifthw was the night before on thrusday) The show did have some great moments in it, but felt lacking as a whole, it just didn't have the same energy as the night before and the sound for friday's set was not as good as the thursday show either.. I felt the highlights of the show was Schism, Jambi, and Wings (BIG thanks to the band for returning to their comfortable but vulnerable spot for that one). Starting off with Rosetta Stones was interesting, throwing us straight down the hole... Too bad they had noticably messed up a couple times during it, after which Maynard replied "Ok lets start this for real". Perhaps he was just fucking with us.

The lazer show i thought was okay (maybe a little cheap), what was cool was the thin clouds from the fog machine were lit up on the lasers, (made it look like the lasers themselves were projecting them!!!!) which you could look up and ahead and have a more tangible feel from the visuals that are seen during Wings. Missing out on Right in Two was a let down for me last night, as that is easily considered one of the better live songs from this tour (my freind hated me for seeing it on thursday). Security SUCKED, both nights, real assholes. I had run past a thin line of them to get to a shirt stand after the show, and one yelled asking if i wanted her to chase me (wankers).
Even though this was the worst shape i have seen them, the show was still entirely whorthwhile and wholesome. What can i say? I"m a full hearted fan, whose been influenced in more ways than i can think of right now.

The meet up before the show was short but sweet, i didn't get to introduce myself to many of you that showed for it, and likewise didn't have many introduce themselves to me. KABIR, sorry i didn't notice you as the only picture i've seen you is the one with you wearing those sun glasses on the down.net site; also sorry for shaking your hand too long (i promise you i am not gay), it was just such a great pleasure to meet you who has assisted my cult relationship with these musicians.

Towelie
09-09-2006, 03:23 PM
Ok, here's something that Shane and I were just talking about.

On Thursday, Maynards voice was fine and he didn't say jack shit.

On Friday, Maynards voice was off yet he was chatty cathy to the crowd. I guess he had friends there. Fine, whatever.

The point I'm trying to make is, what was this talk about being sick? If he was sick, why was his voice fine the same hometown show the day before?

My guess is Maynard's emotions flowed Thursday night after the doors were closed.

My problem if this premise is true: Don't fucking lie and say you'resick. Tell people the truth: look, I was emotional all night so stick with me.

Btw, although Adam and company wanted this Friday show to be special, the Thursday show, because of its honesty, was probably the one to catch.

+void+
09-09-2006, 04:56 PM
Ok, here's something that Shane and I were just talking about.

On Thursday, Maynards voice was fine and he didn't say jack shit.

On Friday, Maynards voice was off yet he was chatty cathy to the crowd. I guess he had friends there. Fine, whatever.

The point I'm trying to make is, what was this talk about being sick? If he was sick, why was his voice fine the same hometown show the day before?

My guess is Maynard's emotions flowed Thursday night after the doors were closed.

My problem if this premise is true: Don't fucking lie and say you'resick. Tell people the truth: look, I was emotional all night so stick with me.

Btw, although Adam and company wanted this Friday show to be special, the Thursday show, because of its honesty, was probably the one to catch.

Totally agree. I think the sick thing was bullshit...he was "sick" when I saw them in Philly in May which I think he maybe really was. But I was thinking last night "damn if he's sick again...he is really an unhealthy guy" and I don't think that's the case.

I think Maynard has a tendency to make excuses when he thinks things aren't going well vocally. And then trys to act like a great guy by playing it up "sorry im sick, but we still had to play for you guys". Total bullshit.

darkside
09-09-2006, 05:42 PM
I have to say that overall I am very disappointed. OK venue, good to finally hear wings/10k day. But the sound was just super horrible and off tone... The guitars were too loud and majority of the time you could barley hear Maynard. They just looked like an amateur band that is playing in front of a large crowd for the first time. Some people blame it on staple center. I do not think that staple center is solely responsible for tool sounding horrible. I saw Paul McCartney from the same spot and everything just sounded better.

They seem to also have some visual problems in the first few songs. Also, Maynard is looking more of a duchbag every day and seems to uninspired and only care about money. All he does is to insults his fan and puts them down and some how we have to find his action to be “cool”

I think when you pay 50 buck for a shitty seat; you at least expect that you have a descent sound. It looks like there was no sound check. Maybe tool is cheap to hire good people for this. The concert was also boring and uninspired. I just don’t think tool can connect with the crowd anymore. I loss a lot of respect for them. They becoming so mainstream and their head are becoming big. They use to be so much better four years ago.


PS. A lot of people indicated that Maynard was sick. My suggestion is that then he should have canceled the concert or should have reimbursed our money. People remember you are paying for this concert $50+ and you are entitle to at least a good show. If Maynard is sick that is his problem not ours who pay our hard earn money and drive long distance to see shitty off tone concert.

By the way do not compare pink Floyd shows to tool. That is like comparing shit (tool) to flower (Pink Floyd

godhenry
09-09-2006, 05:45 PM
Ok, here's something that Shane and I were just talking about.

On Thursday, Maynards voice was fine and he didn't say jack shit.

On Friday, Maynards voice was off yet he was chatty cathy to the crowd. I guess he had friends there. Fine, whatever.

The point I'm trying to make is, what was this talk about being sick? If he was sick, why was his voice fine the same hometown show the day before?

My guess is Maynard's emotions flowed Thursday night after the doors were closed.

My problem if this premise is true: Don't fucking lie and say you'resick. Tell people the truth: look, I was emotional all night so stick with me.

Btw, although Adam and company wanted this Friday show to be special, the Thursday show, because of its honesty, was probably the one to catch.

Have you ever been very emotional/sad/vulnerable/even devastated where people then would ask you "are you feeling ok?" then you would say "yeah i'm just kinda sick" or "yeah i'm just a bit under the weather" in trying to hide away your emotion. It's his emotion. He owns it. He has a right not to share it with you.

jones20004
09-09-2006, 07:28 PM
the guy in front of me asked me which song he thought would follow wings for marie pt. 1.

EulogyCallinMe
09-09-2006, 07:31 PM
i dunno what the deal was...maybe he was sick because he messed up the lyrics a few times...the show was tighter musically, much tighter, save for Lateralus, Adam and Danny's timing was off at the intro but then they corrected and it sounded great. out side of that it was a great show not as powerful as thursday i dont think. ending with Lateralus was a great idea...i was kind of hoping they would add another song like perhaps end it with the Grudge, seeing as they cut out Right in Two, that would have been sweet. all in all a good show to catch but i do think thursday was just really something special. damnit now i have to wait forever to see them again!

jones20004
09-09-2006, 07:33 PM
I'm glad to see that someone else noticed the same things I noticed.

I just almost felt bad...like "this can't be...I'm getting bored at a Tool show!" one of my favorite bands. Oh well, every band ever has played bad shows/shitty venues, so what the hey.

I'll check back in with them again next tour.

do you like tool sir?

jones20004
09-09-2006, 07:34 PM
I couldn't stand the security. They were rude, overzealous and needed to relax. I was 9th row center and almost got into it with a female security guard, and at the end of the show a co-worker of the guard who got in my face gave me some half-cocked warning of "if you would just mind your business you would enjoy the show more." ooooooooohhhhhhhh makes me MAAAD. Great show though!

i wasn't too worried about the security. focusing on the show.

SupaDupaNerd
09-09-2006, 07:52 PM
I had freinds who were all pissed off afterwards about him talking about making a beer run, and talking smack on the VIP's. They're attitude was that if they pay for it then let em have it. I think they were igonorant to the fact that he was using it as a segue for Aenima, when he said that "It all won't matter after the big one... Hey hey hey hey"

Spaceman Spiff
09-09-2006, 08:19 PM
i wasn't too worried about the security. focusing on the show.

Evidently you didn't have three of them blocking your view trying to figure out who was throwing drinks around.

Towelie
09-09-2006, 10:31 PM
Have you ever been very emotional/sad/vulnerable/even devastated where people then would ask you "are you feeling ok?" then you would say "yeah i'm just kinda sick" or "yeah i'm just a bit under the weather" in trying to hide away your emotion. It's his emotion. He owns it. He has a right not to share it with you.

I hear ya. Don't get me wrong, I consider these guys as friends of friends. I'm just saying: be you. My or anyone's subjective opinion does not matter.

Again, I don't know truth in these thoughts. I'm just sharing a discussion I had.

new dimension_disposition
09-10-2006, 01:17 AM
i had a great time. i was too drunk to noticed all of the flaws that have been mentioned. my only recomendation, have some beer and little shit like adam's and danny's timing being off on an intro will become meaningless. if you want flawless music, go to the hollywood bowl and listen to the orchestra play ludwig's 9th.

PS: I wasn't too drunk to notice the $43 price tag on t shirts. no, no, it's not about the money, only about the music, the art---fucken spare me danny carey!

+void+
09-10-2006, 01:23 AM
do you like tool sir?

I do like tool. I didn't like this show. It was uninspired.

Let me guess it was either your first tool show or your first show was one of the shows on the 10,000 days tour?

+void+
09-10-2006, 01:26 AM
"Are the VIP's here yet? Can we start the show?" - Maynard

Maynard is a VIP...and also therefore a hypocrite. Make that a "fuckin hypocriiiiiite", haha.

SupaDupaNerd
09-10-2006, 01:30 AM
"Are the VIP's here yet? Can we start the show?" - Maynard

Maynard is a VIP...and also therefore a hypocrite. Make that a "fuckin hypocriiiiiite", haha.

Ah! Touche!

;o)

oar
09-10-2006, 01:55 AM
i think the sick comment was a joke, he always bags on la

i nabbed the setlist, we got screwed a slight bit. opiate was to be played, after schism and before vicarious. no idea why they skipped it, but the band did have a bigt of a chat after 46+2 with roadies etc.i have pics of it, will upload shortly. also, rosetta was noted as "intro+rosetta", rather than just merley rosetta from thursday.

wings and 10,000 days is "wings 1+2"

also, no one mentioned this so far, justin got his stool before vicarious. it was quite a fake out for those of us that were there on thursday (before wings they brought out a stool for justin, which he uses during the song), cause i thoguth it was wings again. then he stood up and vicarious started, quite a fake out. i thought it was a great little touch that im sure only a few from thursday even noticed.

ps. fuck everyone who says they were off or whatever, it was a great show cept for getting one less song than thursday. could be worse, appears phoenix only got 9 songs....

Icculus
09-10-2006, 03:58 AM
I went to both shows and they both had their advantages. The first one got Right in Two which I would have loved to hear during the second one, and the new solo during stinkfist during the second show was wiiiicked. Also, best Wings for Marie has ever sounded for me...I like the song(s) a lot more now. Some of you probably saw us, we were directly diagnoal to the main entrance of the Staples center in the parking lot with a bigass black truck blasting 10,000 days....one of the guys with us was trying to sell his TOOL pipe he made last night....he still has one left that I may have to buy. Anyway, great shows.

I got one at the Marysville show!! It's a neat little piece! An uncover almost busted him, though. WHAT A FUCKING SHOW!!!

enklined
09-10-2006, 10:52 AM
Alright, I think I'm ready to chime in...

I thought the show was GREAT. Some posts on here complain about little mishaps and such...what you are forgetting is this is LIVE, and fuckups are part of a LIVE show. I actually perfer to see a few messups...it sortof brings a mortality to the music, and the band as a whole. THEY ARE HUMAN (contrary to some peoples beliefs).

Anyway, here's my story: Friday morning, I was sitting at my desk at work, reading reviews from Thursday Nights show. "Wings/10,000 days debut." I sat there...thinking...what if this tour is the only time they play these songs? What if, next year, when they come around, they don't play these because they are not "huge hits" or what not (personally, they are my favs from the new album). I couldn't not see these songs. I purchased airplane tickets from sac to lax at 10:00am, as well as tickets to the show via ticketmaster (REALLY good seats, considering i purchased the day of the show... section 101, row 7. Which is 17 rows back from the stage, and 7 rows up to the left - they were better seats than i had when i purchased my Oakland tickets the day they went on sale...), for my girlfriend and I.

We flew into LAX at about 630, got picked up by a friend that lives in Santa Ana, and headed to the arena.

The concert was fucking awesome. I liked out Maynard was walking around and stuff during Rosetta Stoned - good times! (by the way, Rosetta Stoned Live is fucking great!) I was closer than the Oakland show, so that was cool, but getting to see/hear wings/10,000 days was the highlight. They are great and powerful on the album, but live...they are even better. Nothing short of AMAZING. My thoughts/opinions on these songs are actually limited by language itself...

Leading out of the concert with Lateralus (best song ever performed live) is an excellent idea, and I like it better than ending with Aenema.

Oh yea, to those saying "He wasnt sick the day before, and now he was for this concert...what a liar....blah blah" are you guys serious? 1) Is it not possible to get sick within 24 hours? Have you never felt ok one night and woken up feeling shitty the next morning? 2) YOU DON'T KNOW, SO DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DO. Accusing someone of lying when you have NO clue as to what the real situation is...is lame. Give me a fucking break...

Anyway, the show was fan-fucking-tastic. Loved it. Worth ever penny i spent on tickets and my girlfriends and my $500 airfare (good thing for credit cards).

Can't wait for them to come back around next year...

EDIT:: Re: the post above...Ahh the irony of telling people to "Think for yourself"... Haha. I mean, yea its true, you should think for yourself, but the guy above, or Tool TELLING you to THINK FOR YOURSELF is highly ironic. TOOL = GENIUS. Haha, fucking great.

Towelie
09-10-2006, 11:38 AM
Oh yea, to those saying "He wasnt sick the day before, and now he was for this concert...what a liar....blah blah" are you guys serious? 1) Is it not possible to get sick within 24 hours? Have you never felt ok one night and woken up feeling shitty the next morning? 2) YOU DON'T KNOW, SO DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DO. Accusing someone of lying when you have NO clue as to what the real situation is...is lame. Give me a fucking break...

Sac Boy with Credit Card: When did I say truth? I'm saying, it sounded like bullshit to me. And, I really don't care. He blamed it on traveling to BFE on Friday and blamed it on LA on Saturday.

Mr. OCD Keenan and his razor seem to have a double standard on truth. He only gives it when he thinks you deserve it. Apparently, you are not high on his list and neither is your $500.

$500? Jesus, I spent $50 and got 5 beers and I'm pissed off about that. I know, it's called Staples Center. The merchandising was a joke. "Yes, please give me that thing with four letters on it and, yes, please anal rape me and take my left nut as payment." I'm glad for you that you liked the show but, damn dude, "owned."

Gods? My only expectation for anyone is to be an honest human.

nthistogether
09-10-2006, 02:22 PM
Meh, you guys are right, it wasn't a very good show. *Shrugs* I tried to be postive about it, but yeah, it was kinda hollow.

SterileEyes
09-10-2006, 02:48 PM
As great as the show was, after I saw the set for the next show in Phoenix, I have some constructive criticism.

I understand they're sick...but the fact is they've played under 2 hours every night so far this tour. I respectfully want to give my opinion that since they only come around every 5 years they could perhaps throw a couple more in every night?

As good as the show was, I felt like the band kinda wanted to 'just get it over with'...I base that on the sets going from short to shorter lately. Ever since they added Wings/10,00 days, they've cut Right In Two, Sober, and now Jambi. Seems to me they could just add the 17 minute tune, play the rest, and call it a night after a solid two hours...but I guess not.

No disrespect, the show was great and I got my money's worth...just a humble suggestion/opinion.

Edit:

P.S. Two things - number one, why do some people say 'fuck you, you don't know anything' anytime someone writes something less than perfect about the band? This is a discussion/OPINION board, not a church. Relaaaaaaaaaaaaax...

Also, I agree when people say to give the band a break on the minor fuckups. Entirely too many bands have half their instruments pre-programmed in sync with their click tracks these days. It's nice to know these guys pull their shit off live (99% of it) as 4 actual live human beings and not some computer assistance.

Carbine000
09-10-2006, 02:51 PM
the guy in front of me asked me which song he thought would follow wings for marie pt. 1.

OH WOW!!!

SterileEyes
09-10-2006, 02:54 PM
I couldn't stand the security. They were rude, overzealous and needed to relax. I was 9th row center and almost got into it with a female security guard, and at the end of the show a co-worker of the guard who got in my face gave me some half-cocked warning of "if you would just mind your business you would enjoy the show more." ooooooooohhhhhhhh makes me MAAAD. Great show though!

Yeah man, that was me right behind you (10th row section two) I saw you tell security to leave you alone...and I also saw that annoying bitch bugging you for a hit of your fattie (she grabbed me 4 times during Rosetta demanding a rip of my medical bud, I had to curse at her and tell her b/f to get her to leave me the fuck alone).

But yeah back to the security thing - it's kinda hard to 'just focus on the show' when they shove you aside, shine their flashlights at people next to you, and yell and scream for them to put their weed out while they're obstructing your 10th row view that you paid damn good money for.

Fuck Staples. Don't book Tool if you don't want drugs in your venue.

enklined
09-10-2006, 03:32 PM
Sac Boy with Credit Card: When did I say truth? I'm saying, it sounded like bullshit to me. And, I really don't care. He blamed it on traveling to BFE on Friday and blamed it on LA on Saturday.

Mr. OCD Keenan and his razor seem to have a double standard on truth. He only gives it when he thinks you deserve it. Apparently, you are not high on his list and neither is your $500.

$500? Jesus, I spent $50 and got 5 beers and I'm pissed off about that. I know, it's called Staples Center. The merchandising was a joke. "Yes, please give me that thing with four letters on it and, yes, please anal rape me and take my left nut as payment." I'm glad for you that you liked the show but, damn dude, "owned."

Gods? My only expectation for anyone is to be an honest human.


Just re-read your post, and then mine. I apologize for coming off strong - after rereading your initial post i see that you said "if this is true, then..." My bad. I have an issue with people accusing me or others of something that isn't 100% fact...thats just me. But I see now what you and "Shane" were getting at.

Whoa, I made a mistake. I've been humanized. (ha)

Anyway, yea, when I saw the prices for the t-shirts...i was like "FUCK THAT"...spent way too much money to be there. Didnt buy a thing from the consession stands/bars (tho, a couple drinks woulda been cool, but 10 bucks for a beer and 12 for a mixed drink just isnt my thing after ive paid so much to be there).

Ended up bying a $25 poster tho. Long time fan(atic) and have not one piece of Tool paraphernalia besides the albums.

PS - SterileEyes: If youre reffering to be about saying "fuck you, you don't know anything" ....well, i didnt say fuck him :p I was just saying, if you call someone a liar, you better damn well know 100% that what you are saying is fact, with proof. If someone wasnt sick one day, but claimed they were sick the next, and calling that a lie (which i now reread, and i know thats not what was said) is...lame. Its entirely possible to get sick within 24hrs, was all i was trying to say.

Sorry! :)

SterileEyes
09-10-2006, 03:45 PM
PS - SterileEyes: If youre reffering to be about saying "fuck you, you don't know anything" ....well, i didnt say fuck him :p I was just saying, if you call someone a liar, you better damn well know 100% that what you are saying is fact, with proof. If someone wasnt sick one day, but claimed they were sick the next, and calling that a lie (which i now reread, and i know thats not what was said) is...lame. Its entirely possible to get sick within 24hrs, was all i was trying to say.

Sorry! :)


Hahaha no man not you...I have read pretty much every review of the tour on this site so far in anticipation for the other night, and I have noticed there are certain 'facist nazis' lurking on TDN that just don't seem to tolerate any opinion of the band other than 'wow that was the most perfect magestic experience of my existance and tool are flawless GODS'.

Since I am of the opinion that they should be playing much longer sets since A: They're good enough/people want them to play longer, and B: they only come every 5 years...I wrote that P.S. part because I realized that by posting something less than perfect about the band I might be subjected to some of those 'facists'...you're not one of them, WE COOL ;)

Vecromatica
09-10-2006, 06:18 PM
10,000 Days was a treat I'd been hoping for and I'm glad I got to see it performed.

The closing Lateralus was the best I've ever heard it, I was amazed afterwards and still am.

Best show I've been too.

However, I noticed that they were practically having you spread your ass cheeks for them for merch. That was pretty low. The shirts should've been $15, twenty at most. Instead, they were practically three times that. Total bullshit.

I saw some limited edition shirt for $60. For shit's sake, it's a fucking shirt and the picture isn't even that great. I could make a better Tool shirt with a sharpie and a Hanes undershirt. Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape

I'm happy to say I didn't buy a shirt.

Spaceman Spiff
09-10-2006, 08:06 PM
We bought bootleg shirts outside the venue. Surprisingly decent quality.

spacement
09-10-2006, 09:05 PM
i had a great time. i was too drunk to noticed all of the flaws that have been mentioned. my only recomendation, have some beer and little shit like adam's and danny's timing being off on an intro will become meaningless. if you want flawless music, go to the hollywood bowl and listen to the orchestra play ludwig's 9th.

PS: I wasn't too drunk to notice the $43 price tag on t shirts. no, no, it's not about the money, only about the music, the art---fucken spare me danny carey!

Most people are unaware of the fact that venues take anywhere from 40 - 50% of the merch sales. That's why the prices are ridicously high. Tool is eating most of their profits from their new CD because of packaging costs. Most bands make most of their money on tour from merch sales. It's unfortunate that the venues feel the need to take 40 - 50% of the merch sales when they are charging $20 for parking, $4 for a bottle of water, etc.

enklined
09-10-2006, 09:49 PM
Haha, yea SterileEyes, I agree. Fuck, would be awesome if they played for 2.5hrs or something. Really, thats the only complaint I have. 1.5-1.75hrs just...leaves me wanting more!

Needless to say, tho, those 90-115 minutes ROCK. Good times, defiantely.

Yea, I was very disappointed with the prices of shirts and shit. Saw a zip up hoodie (love hoodies, havent had one since high school tho), then I saw the price...$70? "You must have been out your mind."

Anal rape with no lube.

enklined
09-10-2006, 09:58 PM
i think the sick comment was a joke, he always bags on la

i nabbed the setlist, we got screwed a slight bit. opiate was to be played, after schism and before vicarious. no idea why they skipped it, but the band did have a bigt of a chat after 46+2 with roadies etc.i have pics of it, will upload shortly.

Yea dude, they were chatting quite abit after a couple songs. At the Oakland show, there was no bandmember interaction at all.

Also, at one point, when MJK walked over to talk to Danny, I saw him shaking his head. This had me a bit worried, as I was anticipating wings/10k days the whole night, and was thinking he was telling his bandmates they weren't going to play it (those songs were the #1 reason i flew from sac to la spontaniously).

Post those pics when you get a chance, and maybe a pic of the setlist? How'd you get a holdof that anyway?

Spaceman Spiff
09-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Usually you can just ask the guy at the soundboard, or someone from the crew on the stage after the show. I've got a few setlists that way.

oar
09-10-2006, 10:35 PM
yeah ill try to get those pics of the setlists uploaded shortly.

also, forogt to mention this, not sure if anyone else noticed. i was row 3 pit, and adam and maynard were wearing fake moustaches for the entire show. i imagine it was some kind of joke since they were playing la two nights in a row, like "well we better look a bit different for the same city". i enjoyed it.

Carbine000
09-10-2006, 11:15 PM
yeah ill try to get those pics of the setlists uploaded shortly.

also, forogt to mention this, not sure if anyone else noticed. i was row 3 pit, and adam and maynard were wearing fake moustaches for the entire show. i imagine it was some kind of joke since they were playing la two nights in a row, like "well we better look a bit different for the same city". i enjoyed it.


THAT.................IS...............AWESOME!!!!
Thanks for sharing that!!!

new dimension_disposition
09-11-2006, 01:48 AM
Most people are unaware of the fact that venues take anywhere from 40 - 50% of the merch sales. That's why the prices are ridicously high. Tool is eating most of their profits from their new CD because of packaging costs. Most bands make most of their money on tour from merch sales. It's unfortunate that the venues feel the need to take 40 - 50% of the merch sales when they are charging $20 for parking, $4 for a bottle of water, etc.

No, i didn't know that. but lets take a closer look.

if they sell them for $30 dollars (a price i'll be willing to pay), that means the venue and the band each gets $15. Now, do you really think they wont make a profit at $15 - YES, THEY BOTH WILL! the dudes outside the venue make a profit at $10. i realize the quality is a bit sub, but please get the point.

fuckBrokers
09-11-2006, 06:19 AM
This show sucked compared to the other tool shows I have been to. I posted a really good opinion on here yesterday, but for some odd reason it has been removed. I guess it did not follow the standard guidlines of "TOOL is the greatest band ever man. My life is now complete. I will eat the bands shit and drink their piss." You know, the usual crap that people write. Sorry Kabir and croonies if it was not up to your standards. Anyways, i am back in Dallas can't wait to see them on Thurs. I am a little concerned about my seats though. They are located directly behind the stage in a row that doesnt exist. Has anyone ever run into this situation?

smithers
09-11-2006, 07:03 AM
10,000 Days was a treat I'd been hoping for and I'm glad I got to see it performed.

The closing Lateralus was the best I've ever heard it, I was amazed afterwards and still am.

Best show I've been too.

However, I noticed that they were practically having you spread your ass cheeks for them for merch. That was pretty low. The shirts should've been $15, twenty at most. Instead, they were practically three times that. Total bullshit.

I saw some limited edition shirt for $60. For shit's sake, it's a fucking shirt and the picture isn't even that great. I could make a better Tool shirt with a sharpie and a Hanes undershirt. Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape

I'm happy to say I didn't buy a shirt.



Do you attend concerts on a regular basis? It would appear many of you rarely go to shows. Concert shirts by my estimation have been in the $35-50 range for the last 5...8...years. My t__l shirt from coachella cost 40.....

I wouldnt ever by a bootleg shirt, thats totally retarded, those people selling those shirts are just bottom feeders making a dime off the band.

I would have plopped down my hard earned $$$ for shirt but most the designs werent that interesting or were derivative of whats already out there. I didnt see the limited edition one......what did it look like?

enklined
09-11-2006, 07:26 AM
yeah ill try to get those pics of the setlists uploaded shortly.

also, forogt to mention this, not sure if anyone else noticed. i was row 3 pit, and adam and maynard were wearing fake moustaches for the entire show. i imagine it was some kind of joke since they were playing la two nights in a row, like "well we better look a bit different for the same city". i enjoyed it.

Yea, I noticed Maynards, but didnt notice Adams O_o and he was a lot closer to me than MJK.

Anyway, yea, I found that pretty funny.

Alex in Chains
09-11-2006, 08:10 AM
We bought bootleg shirts outside the venue. Surprisingly decent quality.

Us too. And I don't feel the slightest bit bad about it. I've bought all Tool's records, several on-the-level T-shirts (at shows and elsewhere), and tickets to six of their shows. I kind of feel entitled to buy a bootleg shirt if I want one.

A question: Does Tool want their fans to never get laid so they have more time to listen to Tool? All the shirts (aside from a couple bootlegs) look like total prog-rock geek shit. Why don't they just sell King Crimson shirts and Azia posters at their shows? For forty dollars, I mean. Forty . . . dollars.

And I can't believe Isis has the testicular fortitude to charge the same prices for their merch. Unbelievable. "Yes, I'd like the $70 hoodie of the opening band, please."

fuckBrokers
09-11-2006, 09:20 AM
This show sucked compared to the other tool shows I have been to. I posted a really good opinion on here yesterday, but for some odd reason it has been removed. I guess it did not follow the standard guidlines of "TOOL is the greatest band ever man. My life is now complete. I will eat the bands shit and drink their piss." You know, the usual crap that people write. Sorry Kabir and croonies if it was not up to your standards. Anyways, i am back in Dallas can't wait to see them on Thurs. I am a little concerned about my seats though. They are located directly behind the stage in a row that doesnt exist. Has anyone ever run into this situation?

Towelie
09-11-2006, 09:49 AM
Just re-read your post, and then mine. I apologize for coming off strong - after rereading your initial post i see that you said "if this is true, then..." My bad. I have an issue with people accusing me or others of something that isn't 100% fact...thats just me. But I see now what you and "Shane" were getting at.

Whoa, I made a mistake. I've been humanized. (ha)

Anyway, yea, when I saw the prices for the t-shirts...i was like "FUCK THAT"...spent way too much money to be there. Didnt buy a thing from the consession stands/bars (tho, a couple drinks woulda been cool, but 10 bucks for a beer and 12 for a mixed drink just isnt my thing after ive paid so much to be there).

Ended up bying a $25 poster tho. Long time fan(atic) and have not one piece of Tool paraphernalia besides the albums.
Oh dude, it's totally cool. I'm with you all the way.

Yeah, that poster is very cool. And, speaking of Shane (hehe) I mentioned something about that hoodie after reading up in the merch thread the day before. So, being hammered as he was, he buys it for me. I wanted to seriously choke him. That shit is expensive.

On the shiny happy side of things, I met a lot of cool people that night. And, I love meeting new people so... good times.

Spaceman Spiff
09-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Us too. And I don't feel the slightest bit bad about it. I've bought all Tool's records, several on-the-level T-shirts (at shows and elsewhere), and tickets to six of their shows. I kind of feel entitled to buy a bootleg shirt if I want one.

Pretty much the same here. I bought Tool tshirts at the last two shows (among others from shops), have every album, including Salival, and have even bought multiple copies of Lateralus. Besides, we weren't going to spend the $40 on a shirt anyway, so Tool wouldn't have gotten our money anyway, and now they have some more free advertising whenever we wear one.

Rest of your post was funny. :P

I wouldnt ever by a bootleg shirt, thats totally retarded, those people selling those shirts are just bottom feeders making a dime off the band.
Hey, the meth addict I bought one of my shirts didn't even make that many dimes - I bargained her down because one of my bills was a $2. So, I have no complaints about being a "retard" with money left in my pocket for more than three large, overpriced beers at the show.

toriroxme
09-11-2006, 02:22 PM
What an amazing night! For me, it was much better than Thursday night because a) I was very close to the stage and could see everyone well, and b) I was surrounded by the most interesting people! The band was awesome, naturally, and did such an amazing job with Wings/10K.

CrownOfNegativity
09-11-2006, 04:29 PM
i nabbed the setlist, we got screwed a slight bit. opiate was to be played, after schism and before vicarious. no idea why they skipped it, but the band did have a bigt of a chat after 46+2 with roadies etc.i have pics of it, will upload shortly. also, rosetta was noted as "intro+rosetta", rather than just merley rosetta from thursday. Damn! I would have LOVED to hear Opiate!

oh well, it still was an awesome show even if we did get shorted one song.

CaliButterfly
09-11-2006, 04:58 PM
* space reserved for kabir's review. why? because i can. see you all there.

I know I'm not supposed to post if I wasn't there, but is anyone else wondering what's happened to Kabir?

kabir
09-11-2006, 11:44 PM
he has been working too much again. but he does know that "Opiate" was on the setlist but got cut during the show. presumably that is what mjk was saying 'no' to danny about.

Choice Breath
09-12-2006, 04:55 AM
I was exhausted for this show. I flew into L.A. Thursday and ate and went right to the show. Actually ate in the Fox Sports Fan bar or whatever it's called in the Staples Center. Went hiking and to the beach on Friday, among other things, and I was just dead for Friday's show.

I have to admit that it didn't seem to have the energy of Thursday night's show, but I attributed that to my exhaustion. Considering what other people have said about it, maybe it did lack a little of the energy of Thursday night's show. Either way, Tool on their worst night is better than any other band I've seen on their best night. Since I was tired, I just sat back and watched them play.

Earlier posts reminded me of some of the minor flubs during the show. Otherwise, I would have forgotten about them.

I wondered if Maynard was serious about waiting for the VIP's to start the show for real. I mean, the video stuff for Rosetta Stoned was amazing on Thursday to the extent I felt like I was really tripping on something. I thought maybe they decided to play RS first while they waited for the VIP's and, therefore, had to cut out the visuals for some reason? Is that completely ridiculous? I don't know.

Anyway, it was nice to meet y'all: Kabir, SupaDupaNerd, sonnyboy11, and nthistogether. Kinda strange too. Just enough time to say hello and then Kabir said "we better get back in there, the show starts in seven minutes." Well, at least I'm pretty sure you guys really exist now.

Lestat
09-12-2006, 10:47 AM
Kabir reserved a space, but is he going to post a review?

Choice Breath
09-12-2006, 11:31 AM
Kabir reserved a space, but is he going to post a review?

You may want to read posts 86 and 87 above.

akman46&2
09-12-2006, 01:04 PM
There isn't anything I can post here that hasn't already been said. I came all the way from Alaska to see both the LA shows and the Phoenix show and was completely blown away at the Staple Center shows... can't wait for them to come back around to the west coast in 07.

ps.. Kevin from Covington Kentucky, I met you and "Grace" after Friday's show in the bar at the Holiday Inn.... please post or reply, would like to chat more with you two.. Both of you were funny as hell...

_J_A_Y_
09-12-2006, 03:16 PM
A wonderful 28th Tool show for me! After 5 shows of roughly the same setlist on this tour (I loved each of them!) I was gtatefully disoriented by tonight's rearraged set and extremely excited to hear Wings for Marie and 10,0000 days. Very awesome to experience this live!

I liked seeing the laser show from the rear seats (dead center) as much as being on the floor (in Oakland).

I have to say, it feels weird and a bit melancholy to not know when my next TooL show will be; I'm hoping for the Spring.

CrownOfNegativity
09-12-2006, 04:17 PM
haha who here still thinks that maynard was joking or being an asshole when he told us that he was sick? supposedly they played a mediocre show (well, only maynard since he couldn't sing really) at the Woodlands and have now cancelled the San Antonio show.

Choice Breath
09-12-2006, 06:03 PM
I didn't think he, or they, were kidding. When he said it at the show, I hadn't noticed his singing being off except for one crack when he first sang the word "lawyer" during The Pot. Actually, I woke up with a little throat problem on Saturday morning and still felt bad on Sunday. I felt okay yesterday, but it started up again today. I think Maynard sneezed in my general direction at the show Friday night. Just kidding about that, but the friend I went with also wound up feeling sick by Saturday evening. Could be there was something going around in L.A. for real.

CrownOfNegativity
09-12-2006, 08:59 PM
I didn't think he, or they, were kidding. When he said it at the show, I hadn't noticed his singing being off except for one crack when he first sang the word "lawyer" during The Pot. Actually, I woke up with a little throat problem on Saturday morning and still felt bad on Sunday. I felt okay yesterday, but it started up again today. I think Maynard sneezed in my general direction at the show Friday night. Just kidding about that, but the friend I went with also wound up feeling sick by Saturday evening. Could be there was something going around in L.A. for real.

Haha. Yeah, I thought he sounded great.

MFF0RD6
09-13-2006, 03:24 PM
this was a good show, i took my girlfriend, we had front row in one of the 100 level sections (104) and i dug it. not as good as night 1, but still 10x [10,000x ? :)] better than any other live show out there. wish they had played opiate. viva tool! feel better maynard

Towelie
09-13-2006, 03:33 PM
haha who here still thinks that maynard was joking or being an asshole when he told us that he was sick? supposedly they played a mediocre show (well, only maynard since he couldn't sing really) at the Woodlands and have now cancelled the San Antonio show.

Were you talking about my post? Sick or not sick was not in question. It was the reasons he was giving. If you know why you are feeling a certain way, say it. Otherwise, shut up and make your peace some other way.

If we feel like paying for bullshit, there are plenty of places we can go. After hanging out with some really cool people, a Tool show where everyone paid a lot of money to be with each other should not be one of them.

As far as more observations and feelings from that night, it sounds like people were tired. The band probably was. I know I was. So was my buddy from the night before.

Something happened on Thursday night. Between that and the exhaustion, I think that's where the answer is.

I witnessed how much the band cares about Maynard. This is just speculation but, not only is Tool Adam's project but I can see where Maynard is Adam's (and Danny's) project of love. They obviously care deeply for him.

Granted, I am not a Tool fan like people I know or some on this forum. And, I don't have the close history with the band as others my age. What I do know is Maynard's lyrics do not jive with the words coming out of his mouth when speaking to those who pay to see the band. To me, that is called duality.

Please point me to anything that may help with my ignorance if I am off the mark. It is appreciated greatly.

Some Quarter
09-13-2006, 06:11 PM
the OG was very good to me
got in the concert at 9:10PM right as they were going on.
perfect first TOOL show and the OG kush made it an experience for the senses

Vecromatica
09-13-2006, 07:06 PM
Do you attend concerts on a regular basis? It would appear many of you rarely go to shows. Concert shirts by my estimation have been in the $35-50 range for the last 5...8...years. My t__l shirt from coachella cost 40.....

I wouldnt ever by a bootleg shirt, thats totally retarded, those people selling those shirts are just bottom feeders making a dime off the band.

I would have plopped down my hard earned $$$ for shirt but most the designs werent that interesting or were derivative of whats already out there. I didnt see the limited edition one......what did it look like?

Um, I go to normally five shows a month. I know what prices should be. A shirt from Ozzfest doesn't even go that much. That says enough about these prices.

Coachella rapes merch, that is a known fact.

Seriously, the shirt costs at the most $5 to make, and when in bulk it's cheaper than that. Adding $35-55 to the price is bullshit.

The limited edition one was white with a black drawing on it, done by some artist who thankfully has slipped my mind at this point. Someone else probably knows.

KILGORETROUT
09-14-2006, 08:20 PM
finally i can post. 9th and 10th shows for me.

well, thursday night was the show to be at, i was and seeing wings for the first time was like being in a huge cavern full of expectant electicity. when he walked off i knew it wasnt for any negative reason, and coming back to sing the line "spewing sympathy, spare me." so full of emotion, i was changed. I was fully blown away, sitting in 108 had great view and sound, i was in fucking heaven the whole time, didnt really feel maynard being ill at all and it seemed that i was watching a different tool from at coachella, a looser more comfortable band that really could take chances and also potentially fall from that height. few falls, many amazing moments. thursdays show was the best show ive seen, beating out lollapalooza in toronto 98, and the wiltern (both nights) in 2000 and something. jambi is chicolote live, and Right in Two surpassed anything ive ever seen from a band, simply the cream of the crop, the bees knees and all the others combined. The heavy part at the end "over grave, over ground...etc" was like a revelation live. truly one of the best nights of my life.

friday was no slouch. adam killed every song.

he missed the harmony at "jambi i i i i i i i, jambi i i i i i i i " but the next vocal line he sounded so pissed and gave it so hard that i think that the AZ show suffered because of how amazin he sang that part, "damn my eyes, if they should..."
when danny added in the double bass kicks at the end of 46&2 my heart stopped. he is a god, really... i sorely missed right in two, but seeing wings performed that much better and that much more focused was worth it. lateralus was great both nights, but i loved seeing it as a closer friday, leaving the sorta cheese ball'ish stage setup right till the end, i felt flattered.

From all the way down to the sacral bone....thank you adam, danny, maynard and justin, oh and by the way, justin is retarded, sick, fucking monsterous.