Meaning of the song

[slick]

Greetz...

I wonder why there is no thread about the actual meaning of the song.

There are other treads where it's mentioned but most of the guys really think it's about fisting or sex oder stuff like that.

In my opinion it's definitely about drug abuse.
The lyrics implicate that there are two voices. One voice belongs to the addict and one which refers to the drug as such.

Example :
"Constant over stimulation numbs me and i wouldn't have it any other way"
That one belongs to the addict!

"Relax. Turn around and take my hand" or
"I can help you change, tired moments into pleasure"
That's the voice in the back of the mind of every addict which is calling to the addict constantly tempting him.

The lines with "within the borderline" refers to how deep the addiction is going.

In between the song the addict asks himself why he is actually taking the drug:
"How can it mean anything to me if i really don't feel anything at all?"

At the end of the song the addict knows that he has to quit the drug but the voice in the back of his mind is still there tempting.

[slick]

Oh... by the way... i did see Tool in Düsseldorf/Germany on 8th of June and they played a very different version of this song. The beginning was the same but when the song goes to the climax at the end, they played it way faster and it sounded more than epic. I was beginning to get bored with that song but the live performance really kicked ass. Did they play it on other gigs the same way and does anybody have a clue where i can get the alternate version?!

[pivotal digit]

it's about desensitization , a metaphore
finger deep inside the border line
knuckle deep
elbow deep
shoulder deep
this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to
so it has to go deeper and deeper

tired moments into pleasure - T.v
constant over stimulation
has to keep going further

[pivotal digit]

that's why it's called stinkfist , a metaphore for over stimulation and you need to further and more is requiered

[Melanos]

the "borderline" is the "thin veil" approx. 2-4 inches in front of your face...some says its a "gateway" to something.......vibrations....all matter is mearly that....keep on diggin :)

[the-repent]

it is about reviving a stagnant (even tedious) relationship with the one you love by doing the natural thing: plunging your forearm up their anus

[Theheroeshavedied]

it's about desensitization , a metaphore
finger deep inside the border line
knuckle deep
elbow deep
shoulder deep
this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to
so it has to go deeper and deeper

tired moments into pleasure - T.v
constant over stimulation
has to keep going further

true! right on line! this song is about acting just for the pleasure of the action, without actually having any feelings to go along with it, just plain, blunt physicall lust. the consequences of this philosophy come with: 'how can it mean anything to me, if i really can't feel anything at all'. so he thinks he'll just keep diggin until he'll find the emotions that he expected. but in this grotesqueness, all that is subtle or sublime is lost.

[pivotal digit]

true! right on line! this song is about acting just for the pleasure of the action, without actually having any feelings to go along with it, just plain, blunt physicall lust. the consequences of this philosophy come with: 'how can it mean anything to me, if i really can't feel anything at all'. so he thinks he'll just keep diggin until he'll find the emotions that he expected. but in this grotesqueness, all that is subtle or sublime is lost.

Right On...

[Dark Globe]

i always thought it was about Fisting, or about Reaching in somone (metaphoricly) and pulling out love.......

[Theheroeshavedied]

i always thought it was about Fisting, or about Reaching in somone (metaphoricly) and pulling out love.......

love isn't just something you can extract like from a gold mine, my friend... it's spontaneous. i think it's more: looking deep for something that's not there.

[Inner_Eulogy]

LOL...wow, I've never seen so many totally off perceptions of the song. I will have to come back and teach you all...I don't have time while I'm at work. I will return at a later time young grasshoppas

[bionic_anchovy]

It's also about how in Western society at least, we are continually needing more intense and instantaneous gratification. How deep will the fist have to go before we finally wake up to our over-consuming ways?

[Terry21]

How can a song describe the process of anal fisting and mean drug use? I think the words are not a direct metaphor, just like in Vicarious, what you get is what he means, but it's part of a bigger puzzle. What does this mean? It could be about the sexilysation of the world, or something similar as Vicarious. Or something how sad todays relationships are. Yeah, that could be. Maynard hates people that only are fixed at sex in their relationships. Gah. I don't know. I still don't understand some lyrics in the song, so I don't know.

[zico10]

Having experienced something called hypnogogia on and off for most of my life this has always been one of my favourite songs. For those that dont know its basically a state of conciousness between being awake and asleep (usually called the 'borderline'). One of the great things about being in this state is that it can create lucid dreams, where you are fully aware that you are in the middle of a dream and can therefor make whatever you want happen. When you wake up the memory of the dream is incredibly vivid and seems to have been real. Over the centuries artists, philosophers etc have used this as a way to inspire their creativity.

This may have nothing whatsoever to do with the song but as i was reading an article that actually mentions this song (about half way down) i thought i would share it.

http://www.excommunicate.net/hypnogogia.html

[toolhead777]

i think tool should retire this song. i know its one of their so called "hits" but im tired of hearing this song live but like i always say when they play stinkfist or sober that means its time to get another beer and piss one out..........

[ShadowLine]

I think its about adam and eve having sex in the garden of eden, before then getting thrown out. Check out the Bill hicks quote:

'I've learned a lot about women. I think I've learned exactly how the fall of man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at one with nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never die, and all our dreams come true the instant that we have them." And Eve said, "Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

coincidence, i think not, remember bill hicks is a big influence on the band.

chris
x

[anarcho-commie]

i think tool should retire this song. i know its one of their so called "hits" but im tired of hearing this song live but like i always say when they play stinkfist or sober that means its time to get another beer and piss one out..........


When I saw them live for the first time, in March, Stinkfist was one of the best songs they played. It put out a massive impact and got the crowd going.

[bionic_anchovy]

Yeah, I reckon it kicks arse, and behind the somewhat deviant lyrics lies a good message.

[weesper]

The message is this; the person in the song has become so desensitized to sensuality because he's seen (or acted out) so much pornography that nothing seems to satisfy anymore. That's why he asks us/himself 'what became of subtlety'? Maynard uses the fistfucking metaphor to shock. Why? Well the reason is actually the rationale for writing this song. We are all completely drowned in sex and pornography every day; every commercial you see on TV, every video you watch on MTV tries to sell by linking the product or the lifestyle to sex. As a consequence we have become accustomed to this that every other commercial/video/magazine needs something bolder to show or talk about to still shock people into buying it or watching it. This is the warning call; if we don't realize now that girls in string bikinis on at 3 pm is absurd, the next thing they'll be showing is some couple fisting away to satisfy our shared craving for new ways of the portrayal of sex.

[lizbiz]

it is about reviving a stagnant (even tedious) relationship with the one you love by doing the natural thing: plunging your forearm up their anus

haha, ouch

[Sleeper0013]

HMMM i wonder what Stink Fist is up to these days.

[SchwarzKatze]

Something about

"Something kinda sad about
the way that things have come to be.
Desensitized to everything.
What became of subtlety?"

nearly puts me into tears when I hear Maynard singing this part of the song.

[MissMorbid]

Maybe it's about introducing a "normal" lover into the world of SM.

Finding some spice in life, and all. Boredom isn't a burden anyone should bear.

[fretforyourfigure462]

I think its about adam and eve having sex in the garden of eden, before then getting thrown out. Check out the Bill hicks quote:

'I've learned a lot about women. I think I've learned exactly how the fall of man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at one with nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never die, and all our dreams come true the instant that we have them." And Eve said, "Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

coincidence, i think not, remember bill hicks is a big influence on the band.

chris
x




Agreed.
The whole album of Aenima is influenced by Bill Hicks due to his death. That is a really good interpretation...I never had heard any direct quote form Bill hicks about that, however that really makes a lot of sense.

The drug addiction interpretation makes sense to me too.


Hm...will we ever really know?

[Terry21]

I don't really think Stinkfist is about this Eden thing, but I definately agree with the quote.

[itsok]

well, i think it is about searching for something better. becoming tired of what you are and pushing yourself beyond your limits ( this may hurt a little but its something youll get used to. . . ) perhaps searching for a deeper meaning. . . ( ill keep digging until i feel something) you know?

[MU152762]

I think its about adam and eve having sex in the garden of eden, before then getting thrown out. Check out the Bill hicks quote:

'I've learned a lot about women. I think I've learned exactly how the fall of man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at one with nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never die, and all our dreams come true the instant that we have them." And Eve said, "Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

coincidence, i think not, remember bill hicks is a big influence on the band.

chris
x

at of all the ideas i have heard about this song this one peaks my interest the most. good job of pulling the hick's quote and seeing the possible connections

[ShadowLine]

at of all the ideas i have heard about this song this one peaks my interest the most. good job of pulling the hick's quote and seeing the possible connections

well ive been listing to aenima alot recently and heard alot of bill hicks quotes within the music. i mean alot. for instance Arizona bay (in anema) and the whole flushing la away, creating Arizona bay is from a bill hicks show.

chris
x

[jesseAK]

Whatever it means, it certainly fuckin rocks.

[itsok]

at of all the ideas i have heard about this song this one peaks my interest the most. good job of pulling the hick's quote and seeing the possible connections

holy shit. . .

[itsok]

I think its about adam and eve having sex in the garden of eden, before then getting thrown out. Check out the Bill hicks quote:

'I've learned a lot about women. I think I've learned exactly how the fall of man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at one with nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never die, and all our dreams come true the instant that we have them." And Eve said, "Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

coincidence, i think not, remember bill hicks is a big influence on the band.

chris
x

ha thats what i meant, holy shit. it is pretty hilarious when you dig so deep to find the reason of something and it is so obvious in the end.

[itsok]

wow, i am not very good at explaining myself. what i mean by what i said is that that little quote makes perfect sense, the whole adam and eve thing. yeah. . . jsut got a little too excited

[metal9151]

I've been hooked on Stinkfist for about a month now and the song always seems to strike a different chord when I try to analyse it. I am glad I ran into this forum, it helps give me other perspectives on the song and its possible meanings. This is one of the reasons why I love Tool so much, the metaphors can be taken anyway the listener wants them to be taken. My perspective on the song is one of relationships or a relationship. The borderline is metaphorically implied to be the anus hence the term stinkfist. But for me it translates into emotion and how one starts off small and timid, not letting much in. As things progress one opens up and lets more in. I think that Maynard (and I could be wrong) needs these feelings and those are the ones he try's to convey, when he says he needs it to breathe and feel alive. There is also the lines

Blend and balance
Pain and comfort
Deep within you
Till you will not have me any other way.

I think these are very relationship oriented lines that that he may be trying to find in someone, and he will will "keep digging" until he finds/feels it.

Let me know what everyone thinks I may have more, but thats what I have for now, and feedback is appreciated. I may not be good at explaining myself so ask if it doesn't make sense

[mjkajdcjc]

While I agree with the fisting ideas and the whole searching for feelings that you can't comprehend, I just have to say that these aren't likely reasons for the song. It's most likely that Maynard just wanted to see if anyone would stir up controversy over the song title (MTV and "Track 1"), and how humanity is so appauled by words and anything that remotely suggests something out of the ordinary. It's almost a reference back to "Hush" and censorship of music and the world around us.

[Kedzie_Matthews]

Addiction to fetishes IMO

[Kt3]

your all right, even if your interpritation isnt want tool ment, its cool, whatever gives meaning to your life, i think it is about desinsitization, my parents (the boomers) cryed when they heard that the president had been assasinatied, when they saw people being killed in nam ect. but we woulnt cry if our president was assisinated, some would celebrate, and we watched as people jumped to their death and planes crashing into buildings LIVE on september 11th and werent that shocked, i know i wasnt shocked, just angry

[fretforyourfigure462]

I've been hooked on Stinkfist for about a month now and the song always seems to strike a different chord when I try to analyse it. I am glad I ran into this forum, it helps give me other perspectives on the song and its possible meanings. This is one of the reasons why I love Tool so much, the metaphors can be taken anyway the listener wants them to be taken. My perspective on the song is one of relationships or a relationship. The borderline is metaphorically implied to be the anus hence the term stinkfist. But for me it translates into emotion and how one starts off small and timid, not letting much in. As things progress one opens up and lets more in. I think that Maynard (and I could be wrong) needs these feelings and those are the ones he try's to convey, when he says he needs it to breathe and feel alive. There is also the lines

Blend and balance
Pain and comfort
Deep within you
Till you will not have me any other way.

I think these are very relationship oriented lines that that he may be trying to find in someone, and he will will "keep digging" until he finds/feels it.

Let me know what everyone thinks I may have more, but thats what I have for now, and feedback is appreciated. I may not be good at explaining myself so ask if it doesn't make sense


Wow that really makes a lot of sense. I think because this song is "metaphor" that's why it can be taken in a lot of different ways. The drug addiction, trying to find someone, etc. The problem is...each of us fellow Tool fans continue to overanalyze everything said. And it prevents us from ever really understanding the song.
I think Tool wants us to take this song and all their songs in a way that applies to our life. So interpretations of a song will vary.

[Dv8ingNME]

I think it's basically about felling something different or when you change from regular habit. It may feel strange at first but you'll get used to it and may even start to like it more.

[samus640]

So, I might be completely wrong as well, but I think the song is making a lot of references to Jungian psychology and the process of individuation. If you all want to spend several hours learning about it on wikipedia, it might give you a better idea, but I will try to explain nonetheless. Carl Jung believed that all humans share a psychological dna, much like we have a biological dna, and that dna takes the form of the collective unconscious. Within the collective unconscious there are four basic archetypes: 1.) The Self (all of the unconscious qualities integrated into one being ) 2.) The Shadow (the unknown unconscious qualities that mysteriously affect our behavior, also alluded to in 46 & 2) 3.) The Anima and 4.) The Animus. Focusing more specifically on the Anima, this archetype is described as the unconscious feminine attributes of men. Carl Jung suggested that in order for men to form a unified unconscious self, they must become aware of their Anima qualities and integrate them into their conscious self, along with the other unconscious attributes such as the shadow. (On a side note, the animus is the exact opposite: the unconscious male qualities within women.) The process by which one integrates one's unconscious qualities into their conscious selves is called individuation. Jung described this continual integration as a very difficult process, but ultimately necessary in order to find a rewarding and unified life in which one is fully aware of who they are. This is what I think the song is making a reference to. Granted, I might be wrong, and there is a good chance I misunderstood the concepts behind Jungian psychology, but its worth a shot.

[samus640]

Something has to change. (Feeling a need to change; feeling a desire for a better life)
Un-deniable dilemma. (Seeing that one's life is incomplete; not knowing who you are)
Boredom's not a burden (No one has to be incomplete, but can find themselves)
Anyone should bear.

Constant over stimu-lation numbs me
and I wouldn't have
It any other way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(This is the one part I'm really not sure about. My guess is it could be suggesting that the more he digs into his unconcious mind, the easier it becomes and the less pain he feels because he is becoming numb to the process of individuation. However, he realizes its importance in finding the life he seeks (a unified self) and that is why he "wouldn't have it any other way."

It's not enough.
I need more. (Once again, expressing a desire to find a deeper life,
Nothing seems to satisfy. becoming truly alive and fully awake.)
I don't want it.
I just need it.
To feel, to breathe, to know I'm alive.

Finger deep within the borderline. (Beginning to dig into the unconscious mind)
Show me that you love me and that we belong together.
Relax, turn around and take my hand.
^ ^ ^
(The Anima is described as one's "ideal" female and often influences who we are attracted to according to Jungian psychology. Some theorize that when we fall in love, we are actually falling in love with our archetype, the Anima, as we see it/her in a woman. The line "show me that you love me" might be an appeal to his inner Anima as the desire of his heart.)

I can help you change
Tired moments into pleasure.
Say the word and we'll be
Well upon our way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Sometimes, we see our archetypes in our dreams represented in physical form. He might be seeing his Anima in his "tired moments" or sleep, and having intimate/pleasurable times with it/her.)

Blend and balance (The ongoing process of individuation)
Pain and comfort
Deep within you
Till you will not have me any other way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Going through this process until my unconscious self is unified with my conscious self and I will be with my Anima as one. She/it will finally have me, and I my life will be complete and will not need to change "any other way")

It's not enough.
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I don't want it.
I just need it.
To feel, to breathe, to know I'm alive.

Knuckle deep inside the borderline. (digging yet even further into unconcious self.)
This may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to. (hints at the difficult, yet rewarding process of individuation.)
Relax. Slip away. (Slipping away into the unconcious part of one's mind)

Something kinda sad about
the way that things have come to be.
Desensitized to everything.
What became of subtlety?
^ ^ ^ ^
(These lines might suggest that it is disappointing how the majority of society has become complacent and ignorant and does not make any effort to dig into themselves and expand their minds. People are not trying to live more rewarding lives and do not attempt to unify their unconscious selves with their conscious selves.)

How can it mean anything to me
If I really don't feel anything at all?
^ ^ ^ ^
(possibly: How can life be of any value to me if I don't know who I am/ if my mind is divided)

I'll keep digging till (I'll keep searching my unconscious until I feel alive)
I feel something.

***Sidenote*** Jung studied the unconcious mind through "symbolic communications of the human psche" such as art, music, mythology, etc. Maynard could be saying, that he'll keep writing music and creating artwork in order to discover himself.

Elbow deep inside the borderline.
Show me that you love me and that we belong together.
Shoulder deep within the borderline.
Relax. Turn around and take my hand.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Once again, making reference to going even further into the unconscious mind in an attempt to find one's Anima, which I suppose could also be thought of as one's true love. Naturally, it is assumed, that people need to integrate their unconscious lives into their conscious lives and as a result, both the unconscious and conscious "belong together" or need to be together.)




Once again, this is just a theory. There is a good chance I'm just full of it, but like I said, it doesn't hurt to try. Really, we'll probably never know what Tool is trying to say, but that is what makes Tool unique. As compared to other bands, they don't tell you what to believe or think about in their music. They leave it up to the listener to try to figure it out for themselves. Really, it seems Tool just wants to change society by waking people up and cause them to start using their heads. They just want people to open up their minds and think about things before falling in line and never asking questions. Needless to say, they are very skilled at making people think for themselves.

[oneskeptic]

[QUOTE=pivotal digit;1183758]it's about desensitization , a metaphore
finger deep inside the border line
knuckle deep
elbow deep
shoulder deep
this may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to
so it has to go deeper and deeper

tired moments into pleasure - T.v
constant over stimulation
has to keep going further[/QUOTE

That definately seems to be the basic idea, I agree. And I think a little more specifically that it is about a relationship/sexual love. "Show me that you love me and that we belong together" would be a very poor lyric in the context of desensitization to something nonhuman, though I do think there is plenty of room for personal interpretation using the general notions of desensitization and significance/meaning(losing, seeking & finding) Consider also that live Maynard sings a part of the song "Suspicious Minds"--"can't walk out...I love you too much baby", and don't forget the male and female companions in the video.
And I just wanted to make a short response to those who really think he is talking about drug addiction. I just think you really have to torture the lyrics for them to make sense from that perspective and it just seems to make much more sense in the aforementioned way. But I'm not criticizing people who hear it that way and I don't want to rob anyone of their own interpretation but consider this: If the song really is about struggle with drug addiction we would have to admit that Maynard would be being very redundant with the content of his songs and quite obsessed with that experience. Consider that the song 'Undertow' is explicitly about that struggle and that many people think that 'swampsong' also makes a lot of sense in this context and the two may even be linked in that they may be two narratives of one situation.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Wow that really makes a lot of sense. I think because this song is "metaphor" that's why it can be taken in a lot of different ways. The drug addiction, trying to find someone, etc. The problem is...each of us fellow Tool fans continue to overanalyze everything said. And it prevents us from ever really understanding the song.
I think Tool wants us to take this song and all their songs in a way that applies to our life. So interpretations of a song will vary.

I completely agree. My thoughts were always that it symbolized the desensitization of society in general (think Vicarious). Always needing more whether it be physical sensation, drug enhanced and/or visual stimulation until your tolerance builds to the point where what used to work isn't enough and you need more and more but at the same time you eventually get to the point where you've simply outdone yourself. It's a sad realization the the simple things that should matter the most are now just faded memory. It's a tough and at times shameful reality but it's pure human nature.

[fretforyourfigure462]

I completely agree. My thoughts were always that it symbolized the desensitization of society in general (think Vicarious). Always needing more whether it be physical sensation, drug enhanced and/or visual stimulation until your tolerance builds to the point where what used to work isn't enough and you need more and more but at the same time you eventually get to the point where you've simply outdone yourself. It's a sad realization the the simple things that should matter the most are now just faded memory. It's a tough and at times shameful reality but it's pure human nature.


Glad to know someone is with me.

[Waco Jesus]

I think it's fairly simple - any general addiction can be applied to this song. Sex, drugs... hell, if you analyze it enough it can be a metaphor for being addicted to working out.

Personally, I think that heroin was in mind when the song was written, which seems to be the addiction du jour, usually, when writing songs.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Glad to know someone is with me.

=-)

[Mattywasaracecardriver]

i take stinkfist in a much more personal level. and like i do with a lot of the other tool songs, it links in with relationships. there are loads of things ive got to say about this song, but ill write down all i can rememeber for now, like that within the borderline, i see as what is appropriate between two newly coupled people, and the testing of those boundaries by one of the people in that realtionship, relax, turn around and take my hand, has surely got to suggest some previous experience, like guiding a virgin into her/his first sexual encounter. thats the general ideas i have about this legend of a song, if u want any more extentions of my ideas, please ask. or does anyone just not get what im sayin

[mr. nikki jensen]

the "borderline" is the "thin veil" approx. 2-4 inches in front of your face...some says its a "gateway" to something.......vibrations....all matter is mearly that....keep on diggin :)

interesting

[ShadowLine]

Hey hey hey, slow down:
As a society we have become desensitized (name a topic, ie. death, music)
and as such require a deeper 'fist' to gain new arousal, or else it just becomes nothing of interest.
Damn post-Lateralus fans are becoming too 'mystically' deep on TOOL.
This must end or we'll lose sight of reality.

whoa whoa whoa. tool are deep, just because this song isn't 'mystic' as you put it, doesnt mean their music has grown deeper over time. its a bit ignorant to thin that only you're opinion is correct. also what do you mean by reality? if you mean your day to day experiences you use reality in the wrong sense, the reality is that life, and our existance is deep. i streches beyond the boundaries of our imagination and is the only true reality.

with love as always,
chris
x

[eerieBaatezu]

Something has to change. (Feeling a need to change; feeling a desire for a better life)
Un-deniable dilemma. (Seeing that one's life is incomplete; not knowing who you are)
Boredom's not a burden (No one has to be incomplete, but can find themselves)
Anyone should bear.

Constant over stimu-lation numbs me
and I wouldn't have
It any other way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(This is the one part I'm really not sure about. My guess is it could be suggesting that the more he digs into his unconcious mind, the easier it becomes and the less pain he feels because he is becoming numb to the process of individuation. However, he realizes its importance in finding the life he seeks (a unified self) and that is why he "wouldn't have it any other way."

It's not enough.
I need more. (Once again, expressing a desire to find a deeper life,
Nothing seems to satisfy. becoming truly alive and fully awake.)
I don't want it.
I just need it.
To feel, to breathe, to know I'm alive.

Finger deep within the borderline. (Beginning to dig into the unconscious mind)
Show me that you love me and that we belong together.
Relax, turn around and take my hand.
^ ^ ^
(The Anima is described as one's "ideal" female and often influences who we are attracted to according to Jungian psychology. Some theorize that when we fall in love, we are actually falling in love with our archetype, the Anima, as we see it/her in a woman. The line "show me that you love me" might be an appeal to his inner Anima as the desire of his heart.)

I can help you change
Tired moments into pleasure.
Say the word and we'll be
Well upon our way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Sometimes, we see our archetypes in our dreams represented in physical form. He might be seeing his Anima in his "tired moments" or sleep, and having intimate/pleasurable times with it/her.)

Blend and balance (The ongoing process of individuation)
Pain and comfort
Deep within you
Till you will not have me any other way.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Going through this process until my unconscious self is unified with my conscious self and I will be with my Anima as one. She/it will finally have me, and I my life will be complete and will not need to change "any other way")

It's not enough.
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I don't want it.
I just need it.
To feel, to breathe, to know I'm alive.

Knuckle deep inside the borderline. (digging yet even further into unconcious self.)
This may hurt a little but it's something you'll get used to. (hints at the difficult, yet rewarding process of individuation.)
Relax. Slip away. (Slipping away into the unconcious part of one's mind)

Something kinda sad about
the way that things have come to be.
Desensitized to everything.
What became of subtlety?
^ ^ ^ ^
(These lines might suggest that it is disappointing how the majority of society has become complacent and ignorant and does not make any effort to dig into themselves and expand their minds. People are not trying to live more rewarding lives and do not attempt to unify their unconscious selves with their conscious selves.)

How can it mean anything to me
If I really don't feel anything at all?
^ ^ ^ ^
(possibly: How can life be of any value to me if I don't know who I am/ if my mind is divided)

I'll keep digging till (I'll keep searching my unconscious until I feel alive)
I feel something.

***Sidenote*** Jung studied the unconcious mind through "symbolic communications of the human psche" such as art, music, mythology, etc. Maynard could be saying, that he'll keep writing music and creating artwork in order to discover himself.

Elbow deep inside the borderline.
Show me that you love me and that we belong together.
Shoulder deep within the borderline.
Relax. Turn around and take my hand.
^ ^ ^ ^
(Once again, making reference to going even further into the unconscious mind in an attempt to find one's Anima, which I suppose could also be thought of as one's true love. Naturally, it is assumed, that people need to integrate their unconscious lives into their conscious lives and as a result, both the unconscious and conscious "belong together" or need to be together.)




Once again, this is just a theory. There is a good chance I'm just full of it, but like I said, it doesn't hurt to try. Really, we'll probably never know what Tool is trying to say, but that is what makes Tool unique. As compared to other bands, they don't tell you what to believe or think about in their music. They leave it up to the listener to try to figure it out for themselves. Really, it seems Tool just wants to change society by waking people up and cause them to start using their heads. They just want people to open up their minds and think about things before falling in line and never asking questions. Needless to say, they are very skilled at making people think for themselves.


The best interpretation here anyway. I see a lot of things in the same way.

And I'm really surprised how some people understand to lyrics of Stinkfist. Surprised and amused...

[Baa]

Honestly I've never really thought all that deeply about Stinkfist. The desensitization of society, what we find to be thrilling is becoming more and more difficult to achieve. Hence the reason he's having to go further and further in to look for feeling.

My two cents.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Honestly I've never really thought all that deeply about Stinkfist. The desensitization of society, what we find to be thrilling is becoming more and more difficult to achieve. Hence the reason he's having to go further and further in to look for feeling.

My two cents.

Exactly, although Maynard is so good at leaving things so generalized without being too specific...although again, there are also some songs which are pretty plainly obvious that some people on this site go completely off the deep end with utter bullcrap theories

[AlcheMilla]

I think this is about sex, and the sexuality in a relationship and the complicated dynamics between two people in it. There is a sacreness in that meeting that has to be respected at the same time as we want that sexual kick. I think the song is about balancing that, and failing that balance. About how, once you have manipulated yourself across someones lines of defence, there is no way back, for neither part. It's hard to say no, after you've let someone in, how to motivate a no now, when it was ok this far ? Especially when the other one uses love as a way to persuade you into something that has nuthing to do with it. There is this amazing pleasure of the sex (anal in this song, someone mentioned bdsm earlier), and on the other hand that fragile love, that will be so hard to mend once soiled. The pleasure of the kick seems so much easier than going thru that hard work of rebuilding trust, now that it's spoiled anyway. So we go on... I don't know, I'm just rephrasing things already said. :)

[Inner_Eulogy]

whoa whoa whoa. tool are deep, just because this song isn't 'mystic' as you put it, doesnt mean their music has grown deeper over time. its a bit ignorant to thin that only you're opinion is correct. also what do you mean by reality? if you mean your day to day experiences you use reality in the wrong sense, the reality is that life, and our existance is deep. i streches beyond the boundaries of our imagination and is the only true reality.

with love as always,
chris
x

lol, now that was kinda cheesy

[Inner_Eulogy]

I think this is about sex, and the sexuality in a relationship and the complicated dynamics between two people in it. There is a sacreness in that meeting that has to be respected at the same time as we want that sexual kick. I think the song is about balancing that, and failing that balance. About how, once you have manipulated yourself across someones lines of defence, there is no way back, for neither part. It's hard to say no, after you've let someone in, how to motivate a no now, when it was ok this far ? Especially when the other one uses love as a way to persuade you into something that has nuthing to do with it. There is this amazing pleasure of the sex (anal in this song, someone mentioned bdsm earlier), and on the other hand that fragile love, that will be so hard to mend once soiled. The pleasure of the kick seems so much easier than going thru that hard work of rebuilding trust, now that it's spoiled anyway. So we go on... I don't know, I'm just rephrasing things already said. :)

The song is not about anal sex genius. It's a metaphor

[ShadowLine]

lol, now that was kinda cheesy

cheesy?...yes but its still my belief you cant judge a band purely by one song.
because one isnt deep or as deep as the rest doesn't mean the rest are not. anyways i ain't DOWN with the HIP HOP speech thesse days ya'all

chris
x

[AlcheMilla]

The song is not about anal sex genius. It's a metaphor

Umm, does that mean I'm not a genius either....? Or that I am....? Could it be a metaphor AND about sex...I dunno, obviously.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Umm, does that mean I'm not a genius either....? Or that I am....? Could it be a metaphor AND about sex...I dunno, obviously.

Obviously not

[ShadowLine]

Umm, does that mean I'm not a genius either....? Or that I am....? Could it be a metaphor AND about sex...I dunno, obviously.

er...do you even understand what a metaphor is? i think that reply disproves your theory and your genius claim.

chris
x

[ShadowLine]

this song is about tv and graphical violence shown etc. being hooked into the machine (reference from the video) and generally is aenima's vicarious.


chris
x

[AlcheMilla]

er...do you even understand what a metaphor is? i think that reply disproves your theory and your genius claim.

chris
x

I'm sorry for coming thru as thinking myself to be a genius, I was just uncertain whether or not inner_eulogy thought I was. I do understand the meaning of metaphor, and I am sorry for posting a thought that so obviously is considered idiocy by inner. I will question myself and my thoughts more in the future, before posting, as to not offend you or your version of reality. Thanks for your patience.

[ShadowLine]

I'm sorry for coming thru as thinking myself to be a genius, I was just uncertain whether or not inner_eulogy thought I was. I do understand the meaning of metaphor, and I am sorry for posting a thought that so obviously is considered idiocy by inner. I will question myself and my thoughts more in the future, before posting, as to not offend you or your version of reality. Thanks for your patience.

oh get rid of your ego you ppmpous moron.

chris
x

[AlcheMilla]

oh get rid of your ego you ppmpous moron.

chris
x

lol... oh boy.... one need hardly even lift a finger to get u going. Any other wise words to share ? You seem to have an endless supply.... Would someone please ban me from this site, cause I find this just too hilarious to give up, I'm getting addicted....

[Inner_Eulogy]

oh get rid of your ego you ppmpous moron.

chris
x

haha

[Red Yehti]

I never understand why people try to attribute such a deep, heavy meaning to each line of the Stinkfist lyrics. To me, this 1 is right there on the surface. No need to try and dissect every line for some elaborate meaning.
I might piss the powers that be off with this post but here goes:

ITS ABOUT SHOVING YOUR FIST UP SOME GUYS ASS>>>OR HAVING SOME GUY SHOVE HIS FIST UP YOUR ASS

Plain and simple. Maynard is bi-sexual, if not flat out gay. I have a bootleg concert recording where he talks about how great it was the last time he was in England because he had violent anal sex with Morrisey all night long. He wasnt joking,either.

I know its hard to believe somebody you respect and admire might be a homosexual who enjoys deviant sexual activity, but you dont know the guy personally. Im not saying I know Maynard personally, but I beleive my feelings on his sexuality to be true.

There is even an X ray picture of some foriegn object lodged up somebody anal cavity in the Aenima CD package. Whats to decipher about Stinkfist?? Its very obvious to me. For all those wondering, Im heterosexual and always will be. But I dont discriminate against anyone based on their personal sexual preferences. I think the members of TOOL are the same way, and they are trying to get others to be tolerant of all human beings, regardless of sexual preference.

[imatoolhed]

just reading your posts make me feel dumber or stoopider.

fock, see. stfu and log off.

[ShadowLine]

I never understand why people try to attribute such a deep, heavy meaning to each line of the Stinkfist lyrics. To me, this 1 is right there on the surface. No need to try and dissect every line for some elaborate meaning.
I might piss the powers that be off with this post but here goes:

ITS ABOUT SHOVING YOUR FIST UP SOME GUYS ASS>>>OR HAVING SOME GUY SHOVE HIS FIST UP YOUR ASS

Plain and simple. Maynard is bi-sexual, if not flat out gay. I have a bootleg concert recording where he talks about how great it was the last time he was in England because he had violent anal sex with Morrisey all night long. He wasnt joking,either.

I know its hard to believe somebody you respect and admire might be a homosexual who enjoys deviant sexual activity, but you dont know the guy personally. Im not saying I know Maynard personally, but I beleive my feelings on his sexuality to be true.

There is even an X ray picture of some foriegn object lodged up somebody anal cavity in the Aenima CD package. Whats to decipher about Stinkfist?? Its very obvious to me. For all those wondering, Im heterosexual and always will be. But I dont discriminate against anyone based on their personal sexual preferences. I think the members of TOOL are the same way, and they are trying to get others to be tolerant of all human beings, regardless of sexual preference.

you are a fucking moron. you are keeping the human species from evolving.

chris
x

[Red Yehti]

I know people who knew members of the band in the early 90's. What u got? FUCKFACE GROUPIES!!

[imatoolhed]

I know people who knew members of the band in the early 90's. What u got? FUCKFACE GROUPIES!!

i know people that know people that know people that rob people. so what right, right.

but your still and always will be a fucking idiot. hahaha. idiot.

[ShadowLine]

I know people who knew members of the band in the early 90's. What u got? FUCKFACE GROUPIES!!

i know a person whis knows alot of hitmen, so watch out!, jesus just stop being a prick.

chris
x

[chalk_line]

ATTN: Red Yehti

i think you are overreacting a little to someone disagreeing with your post

and i think it funny you have to defend you "heterosexuality" in your post, anytime you give a disclaimer like that it shows how blatantly obvious it is that you yourself are insecure about your sexuality

and p.s.
stinkfist is not a song about gay porn, (but we know how much as you want it to be)

[ShadowLine]

ATTN: Red Yehti

i think you are overreacting a little to someone disagreeing with your post

and i think it funny you have to defend you "heterosexuality" in your post, anytime you give a disclaimer like that it shows how blatantly obvious it is that you yourself are insecure about your sexuality

and p.s.
stinkfist is not a song about gay porn, (but we know how much as you want it to be)


lol great retort man.

much love
chris
x

[jevons]

Motherfuck. Somebody needs to figure out a way to turn this thread into a stand up act. Fucking spectacular.
And stinkfist is about the possibility of removing apathy and self-destructive routines in hopes of... doing other stuff for awhile. I know a guy who knows a guy who's always right.

[ShadowLine]

Motherfuck. Somebody needs to figure out a way to turn this thread into a stand up act. Fucking spectacular.
And stinkfist is about the possibility of removing apathy and self-destructive routines in hopes of... doing other stuff for awhile. I know a guy who knows a guy who's always right.

lol i think i know that guy aswell, name's steve isn't it?

chris
x

[jevons]

nah, i know a guy who knows me, and i'm always right. It was a bad joke.

[halfbreed]

The song is not about anal sex genius. It's a metaphor

I'm an anal sex genius.

[jevons]

Just don't do it under water, sir. Five years in rehab and counting.

[AlcheMilla]

I know its hard to believe somebody you respect and admire might be a homosexual who enjoys deviant sexual activity, but you dont know the guy personally. Im not saying I know Maynard personally, but I beleive my feelings on his sexuality to be true.



It must be even harder to BE that respected and admired person, if he'd really be bi. Would whatever he has to say, somehow be made worthless by his sexual preferences.... Interesting thought that he'd be bi... Wow, would that REALLY make him the antichrist...lol And send a great big part of the "army" straight into a deep identity crisis....let's hope he isn't...lol

[Red Yehti]

Making threats about hit men and people who rob people just shows how ridiculously serious you take this forum. Should i start looking over my shoulder for your hitmen, imatoolhead? Should I lose sleep thinking i might be robbed, Shadowline? You guys need to get out of your house every now and then. Im really sorry if i hit a nerve about the "gay" thing. Some people (shadowline,imatoolhead) just like to hide their head in the sand...or snowbank in Imatoolhaeds case. Get a snow shovel and dig your pale ass out, its nice out here.

[Red Yehti]

ATTN: Red Yehti

i think you are overreacting a little to someone disagreeing with your post

and i think it funny you have to defend you "heterosexuality" in your post, anytime you give a disclaimer like that it shows how blatantly obvious it is that you yourself are insecure about your sexuality

and p.s.
stinkfist is not a song about gay porn, (but we know how much as you want it to be)

Who are you to wave your FATTY fingers at me?

[chalk_line]

Who are you to wave your FATTY fingers at me?

you must have been out your mind.


(im your daddy)

[ShadowLine]

It must be even harder to BE that respected and admired person, if he'd really be bi. Would whatever he has to say, somehow be made worthless by his sexual preferences.... Interesting thought that he'd be bi... Wow, would that REALLY make him the antichrist...lol And send a great big part of the "army" straight into a deep identity crisis....let's hope he isn't...lol

you really are a lost soul. sexuality isn't important. IT'S A FACT THIS SONG IS NOT ABOUT SEX GAY, ANAL, STRAIGHT WHATEVER. you are blind to the gleamingly obvious. - NOT ABOUT SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris
x

[ShadowLine]

Making threats about hit men and people who rob people just shows how ridiculously serious you take this forum. Should i start looking over my shoulder for your hitmen, imatoolhead? Should I lose sleep thinking i might be robbed, Shadowline? You guys need to get out of your house every now and then. Im really sorry if i hit a nerve about the "gay" thing. Some people (shadowline,imatoolhead) just like to hide their head in the sand...or snowbank in Imatoolhaeds case. Get a snow shovel and dig your pale ass out, its nice out here.


listen first of all i metion the hitmen, iamtoolhead metioned robbers. and we were parodying what you said. listen i dont care for personal slander but you really are an unevolved soul. and as for burying our heads in the sand if i go out every day and also havea strong interest in spirituality/meditation and have a strong love for music (i play in a band) - does that make me the housebound ostrich that you try to label me as. all we are saying is that this song is not about SEX. it IS a far more deeper meaning than fisting someone. just because you have no idea about the subject areas in which it refers to makes you argue you stupid unevolved points.

chris
x

[Red Yehti]

Shadowliar,
I guess you had a nice long talk with MJK about the lyrics to Stinkfist. Is that correct? If not, please stop insisting I am wrong and you are right.
Also, please check out your local community college and see if they are offering any English 101 courses. Reading your posts is like grading papers from an 8th grade student.
LEARN TO SPELL! LEARN TO SPELL! LEARN TO SPELL!

Sorry, I just noticed you are from England. Please disregard any advice i gave you about furthering your education. Just get to a dentist sometime in your life.

[ShadowLine]

Shadowliar,
I guess you had a nice long talk with MJK about the lyrics to Stinkfist. Is that correct? If not, please stop insisting I am wrong and you are right.
Also, please check out your local community college and see if they are offering any English 101 courses. Reading your posts is like grading papers from an 8th grade student.
LEARN TO SPELL! LEARN TO SPELL! LEARN TO SPELL!

Sorry, I just noticed you are from England. Please disregard any advice i gave you about furthering your education. Just get to a dentist sometime in your life.

1.you are a moron.
2.i write how i talk
3.you had to resort to steroetypes
4. i forgot you are maynard
5.your claim to knowing a guy who knew members of the band is stupid.
6.this song is not about sex
7.you are a prick
8.you have stopped us from evolving spiritually
9.you have no idea about who i am so stop putting me into a general stereotype.
10. you obviously are shit at english aswell not to understand the refernces to 'sex' are metaphors.
11.shut the fuck up, yopu are only here to argue, grow up and move on.
12.you are a peon controlled by the media, blined by TV and have no clue about the real reality that exists.
13.your comeback to this post will be childish, using old jokes off the simpsons.

with little love
chris

[Red Yehti]

DOH!!

If you love metaphors so much ...why dont you marry them?
huh? huh? huh?
Nya nya nyaaa..up your butt with a coconut!!

HAA HAA!!

I honestly think they person who first put the idea of metaphorical phrasing into your idiot brain, really created a monster. You seem to think because you know what metaphors are that you have some sort of great intelligence.

Your a joke!...a pale, meat-pie eating, rotten tooth having, goat fucking, JOKE!!

[ShadowLine]

DOH!!

If you love metaphors so much ...why dont you marry them?
huh? huh? huh?
Nya nya nyaaa..up your butt with a coconut!!

HAA HAA!!

I honestly think they person who first put the idea of metaphorical phrasing into your idiot brain, really created a monster. You seem to think because you know what metaphors are that you have some sort of great intelligence.

Your a joke!...a pale, meat-pie eating, rotten tooth having, goat fucking, JOKE!!

actually goat fucking is related to the Welsh. i am actually scottish, not english. yes i do know what metaphors are and no i do not think i a have great intelligence.

now please shut up and we can actually move on instead of this thread just being an argument between me and you.

back to the original topic anyone??

chris
x

[AlcheMilla]

actually goat fucking is related to the Welsh. i am actually scottish, not english. yes i do know what metaphors are and no i do not think i a have great intelligence.

now please shut up and we can actually move on instead of this thread just being an argument between me and you.

back to the original topic anyone??

chris
x

Look whos talking...

[AlcheMilla]

you really are a lost soul. sexuality isn't important. IT'S A FACT THIS SONG IS NOT ABOUT SEX GAY, ANAL, STRAIGHT WHATEVER. you are blind to the gleamingly obvious. - NOT ABOUT SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chris
x

Were you stomping your feet, too, when writing that ? hehe...that's so cute...

[ShadowLine]

Were you stomping your feet, too, when writing that ? hehe...that's so cute...

yes i was...*looks ashamed*

chris
x

[jevons]

When a poet writes a poem, he is really just picking at himself, masturbating in a sense, but more acurately he is shoving a fist up his ass to see what he has been eating.

Along this line of thinking, Copernicus was a poet.

In order to blend the concept of an apathetic generation with the purpose of the true artist, the concept of a man fisting himself arose.

Put your finger in yer bum and find out just how Humangous you are.

[BlueTape]

ok, heres the song

its two sided, the drug/fist/fister, and the addict/person being fisted
this could be a relationship between a person and a person, a person and a drug, or a person and him/herself

something has to change, undenialble dilemma, boredoms not a burdon anyone should bear. constant overstimulation numbs me, but i would not want you any other way.
the drug is talking the addict into taking it.

just not enough, i need more, nothing seems to satisfy. dont want it, i just need it, to breathe to feel to know im alive.
the drug won, the addict has given in and needs more just to live

the whole knuckle deep, finger deep, elbow deep, shoulder deep, just another metaphor of fistfukin

this may hurt a little but its something youll get used to, blend and balence pain and comfort deep within you. its simple

[Inner_Eulogy]

It must be even harder to BE that respected and admired person, if he'd really be bi. Would whatever he has to say, somehow be made worthless by his sexual preferences.... Interesting thought that he'd be bi... Wow, would that REALLY make him the antichrist...lol And send a great big part of the "army" straight into a deep identity crisis....let's hope he isn't...lol

He's not gay or bi you retards

[AlcheMilla]

He's not gay or bi you retards

We are just playing with the thought. Don't be so angry, inner... please.

[Inner_Eulogy]

We are just playing with the thought. Don't be so angry, inner... please.

Or maybe you were just playing with yourself at the thought

[AlcheMilla]

Or maybe you were just playing with yourself at the thought

Hmmm..... can't recall that I did... Does that worry you, though ?

[ShadowLine]

He's not gay or bi you retards

as far as i know he's not but would it matter if he was?

chris
x

[AlcheMilla]

as far as i know he's not but would it matter if he was?

chris
x

oh, u ARE friends...hehe... well, I hate to think that my supposed kinks would worry anyone, if I didn't care about his opinion I wouldn't be posting here, I'd keep it to myself, I'm sorry that he equals opinion with aggression..... but no, Maynard is hardly the kind that makes me play with meself, bi or not..lol Everyone is free to be whatever, I still think the song could be about SEX, fisting or whatever. I dont think mind and body can be separated like that, the sex act is something profoundly human. And you can do it dirty or not. But the song means so many things to all kinds of people, I respect that.

[yoshu]

I think that this song can be connected with sex in some way. It's just a matter of how do you analyse the meaning of it. If your own theory don't fit with the non-methaphorical sense of the song, good, but don't flame people who really found the sense of song in a straight, literally way.

For me it's not obvious about fist anal sex or something, but it's about relationships in couple, who just started livin together and need to feel out, where the borderline, in every aspect of they together life, lies.

And, ShadowLine, you are a funny kid. Get a life :*:)

[ShadowLine]

I think that this song can be connected with sex in some way. It's just a matter of how do you analyse the meaning of it. If your own theory don't fit with the non-methaphorical sense of the song, good, but don't flame people who really found the sense of song in a straight, literally way.

For me it's not obvious about fist anal sex or something, but it's about relationships in couple, who just started livin together and need to feel out, where the borderline, in every aspect of they together life, lies.

And, ShadowLine, you are a funny kid. Get a life :*:)

i have one thank you, it is filled with love and mening.

chris
x

[Inner_Eulogy]

i have one thank you, it is filled with love and mening.

chris
x

And too many drugs

[ShadowLine]

^lol yes, drugs too.

chris
x

[guitarguru85]

I don't care if you heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual... having someone jam their entire fist and be "Forearm deep" in your anus cannot be comfortable. I think that the point of the song is somewhat about addiction, perhaps not to drugs though, but to pain or violence. I agree that this song is similar to "Vicarious" in that it is a reference to American society being addicted to violence, fear, and pain.

I think Maynard used the image of shoving a fist up someone's anus because, no matter who you are, that has to hurt. I also think that it was a tongue in cheek joke because he knew that MTV or the radio would never be able to use the actual title of the song. Finally, he knew tht he could write a song about someone shoving their fist up someone's butt and there would be people who considered it art and would seriously debate it's meaning. I think that he has to get some sort of entertainment out of that.

[Nikeda-Taylor]

Yeah....

[base metal]

IMO Stinkfist = accepting the fact that you are living with or around the unnacceptable and undesirable.

[Inner_Eulogy]

IMO Stinkfist = accepting the fact that you are living with or around the unnacceptable and undesirable.

Just a tad late on that one, eh, 9 mos

[base metal]

CPR post

[Inner_Eulogy]

CPR post

"CLEAR!"

[theamazingtool]

umm, i dont think so...

[Inner_Eulogy]

You're not paid to think!!

[theamazingtool]

that wasn't directed to you. and going off your comment, I pay OTHERS, in order to use my own nogging. crazy aint it? its called school...

[Inner_Eulogy]

that wasn't directed to you. and going off your comment, I pay OTHERS, in order to use my own nogging. crazy aint it? its called school...

Those theives....taking your money knowing you'll absorb none of it

[theamazingtool]

pretty much guy...

[afra_thirdeye]

love isn't just something you can extract like from a gold mine, my friend... it's spontaneous. i think it's more: looking deep for something that's not there.

yeah i absolutely agree with this and previous posts relative to this opinion .

its meaning is to near to somehting one try to gain but actually there isnt anything to appoach,but one is countinue digging until find something . im my book its a criticizing song about the way .

[afra_thirdeye]

ATTN: Red Yehti

i think you are overreacting a little to someone disagreeing with your post

and i think it funny you have to defend you "heterosexuality" in your post, anytime you give a disclaimer like that it shows how blatantly obvious it is that you yourself are insecure about your sexuality

and p.s.
stinkfist is not a song about gay porn, (but we know how much as you want it to be)

----
=)) wow i dont now why some ppl want to drag song to just a specific point like sex or "ANAL SEX tool " or gay porn , come on ppl , we are talking about improve our mind , sure if maynard hadnt the goal that : mysterious way tool song's lyric has is way to make u think more , think differently than before , sure if they didnt , songs was simple to understand and no need to think about it but this point of view should take us to the pointless thing like "ANAL SEX !!!!

you can try out some expanded view to see what this song is about .

[MasterInfinity]

i know what the song means to me. its about a bad mushroom trip and years of flashbacks.
it helps turn the fear into compassion.

[MasterInfinity]

THANK YOU TOOL!!!

[MasterInfinity]

elbow deep shoulder deep = baptism?

[Master Roshi]

It's as if all of you went through reading comprehension class and took everything the teacher said to mean precisely the opposite of what she said.

[second-coming]

To me, all their songs are stories of life. Pieces of life turned into notes. And I feel thrilled when I hear something which is about unique spiritual experiences. They just make you appreciate fleeting moments more. Even Stinkfist that sounds so sexual takes you beyond the surface meaning. I can get multiple meanings. One theme can be the quest of mankind for a meaning…for a center…for truth; the unquenchable thirst of man for unity. sociologically point of view, it might deal with the isolation of individual identity when society constantly pushes us towards conformity.
this line is just great in a simple way:" turn around and take my hand"
Very smart…very much…If fisting was not mentioned, how would you interpret it?
I think it's better to read the lines separately.

[alicechen]

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