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Smokin joe
11-24-2002, 09:51 AM
I thought the noise was an elevator or something, like maybe an old fashioned one.

I know that a lot of people must have had a lot of thoughts as to what it was the first time they hear it. I mean, it's the first noise you hear on the CD, I had no idea what to expect.

joe

povvy
11-24-2002, 03:51 PM
To me, it sounds like a type of sound which would accompany the "frame" being put up in the first moments of the "Parabola" video.
What it has to do with anything else... no idea.

Patrick.

Flogsworth
11-25-2002, 04:50 AM
Its a sound they took from one of their favorite movies.

paraflux
11-25-2002, 09:21 AM
haha, yeah one of their favorite movies, it's just the sound of the film projector starting up.

okkoto
11-25-2002, 09:54 AM
to me it sounds like a cd spinning (this is not sarcastic)

7chakras
11-25-2002, 01:23 PM
it's air con isn't it? the same sound starts fireball by deep purple.

i think the filmprojector thing makes sense though - considering how they compare lateralus to a big long movie.

i've not really thought about it

Chuckhawk
11-26-2002, 01:49 PM
I thought it sounded like a rotating machine of sorts starting up. The whole first riff sounds like the rotating machine at full speed, so it made sense to me.


But then I got tabs for the song and I was all like, "oh." Still... sounds like a rotating machine.

Metatron's Cube
11-27-2002, 12:23 AM
What I have always thought of that when I hear it, is a movie projector starting up. Who knows if that is right, its just the image I get in my head, and I guess thats as important as anything else.

marc
11-27-2002, 12:44 AM
are you referring to the drone in the begining of the show with the little synth sounds? i think that the drone is an enhanced sample of a sound that Bill Hicks made during one of his comedy skits called "shrooms"... he made the sound after talking about how wide open his third eye was after taking 5 dry grams... sort of the trip coming on.... it was funny... if anyone else knows the sound i am reffering to let me know....

Vincent
11-27-2002, 01:15 PM
I thought it sounded like a futuristic door....makes since too, since it's like, opening the door to the album and stuff, with the song being the first and all......

seeyouauntie
11-27-2002, 01:39 PM
to me it sounded like a spaceship opening its pod door or something..

megadan
11-27-2002, 02:01 PM
To me it sounds like a a big machine starting up in a mad scientist laboritory.. i kind of picture a big dark room with machinery poking out of the corners, random sparks of electricity flying through the air... random smells, not quite human, not quite machine. but a combination of the two... this is the very first, primitive sound that starts up a machine that is complex and intricate (ie the album)

Kostia
11-27-2002, 03:58 PM
I always thought it was self made but it reminds me of something I heard in Star Wars one or two when I was little. I mean, Star Wars, um, 4 or 5.

dissociation
11-28-2002, 08:29 PM
it's a saw.

Vincent
11-29-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Kostia
I always thought it was self made but it reminds me of something I heard in Star Wars one or two when I was little. I mean, Star Wars, um, 4 or 5.

If you wanna compare it to media.....

It sounded like the doors in the Umbrella corp thing (Resident Evil 2) to me. Just that that sound was a quick "swoosh" instead of this "swoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo -" *song starts* thing.

dictator
12-01-2002, 01:45 AM
It could be the "lateralus starting up as a movie" because at the end of Fiaap De Oiap (distrubing song btw), theres a CLICK like a person is turning a TV or a machine off...

Carlos T.
12-01-2002, 01:48 PM
i go with the movie projector is just that TOOL does compare their music with movie scenes just like mike patton does with fantomas.

Smokin joe
12-02-2002, 10:20 AM
it's funny, regardless of what people think the noise is, it's basically the commencement of something, whether a movie, or an elevator, or spinning CD, a beginning of a rotating machine, etc...

And at the end, it clicks off. And it's over.

God i love this band

Joe

16 Degrees
12-02-2002, 05:49 PM
It was actually me farting....


Actually I have no clue, but it is an awesome way to begin the cd.

blueghost
12-02-2002, 10:30 PM
its totally not a movie projector, the best gues so far was saw like a saw that cuts logs at a logging station. the big one.


or maybe im just stupid


Ghost

sambarugh
12-03-2002, 10:39 AM
I agree it sounds like an automatic door opening. Very spaceship like.

a_divine_martyr
12-03-2002, 12:02 PM
i have to go with the film projector. i thought lateralus was an album more or less to help open up your mind and to take what they gave you as any way you choose. and the "film" of the CD is just the pictures that come to your mind as you listened to the track.

i'll go AGAINST what they say at the end of this here page, just for one post...

me too!

this is CLEARLY the projector... DUH!

it's just my opinion


*snickers*

wow i need a life...

BackToMyKnees
12-03-2002, 03:57 PM
I honestly don't beleive this is right anymore, but since noone has said this one yet....I thought it was a Vaccum cleaner. I was pretty convinced until I really listened to it and then saw people discussing what it was.


Anyhoo, just thought I'd throw that in there.

paraflux
12-04-2002, 07:07 AM
Due to the use of sonic imagery used I have to stick with the film projector. They communicate images as well as ideas, and the film projector just makes sense. That's the first thing I thought of when I first put it in, so that's what works for me. I imagine a screen in my brain that the music projects itself on. And I watch.

El Deano
12-04-2002, 01:01 PM
Good one Paraflux. To me though, Dictator has it. The whole album has a continuity to it and that would make sense. For some reason, I have a feelng Danny is switching it on. At the verrrry start, it sounds like he inadvertently drops some sticks and starts it. I think it sounds like a rotating machine too; the image of the eyes on the cd come to my head. I reckon it sounds like a washing machine though.

davthelandlord
12-04-2002, 07:14 PM
my thoughts were that it was something futuristic, something like a spacecraft...i dunno i have a weird train of thought sometimes

ATG
12-05-2002, 02:45 PM
I always thought it was the sound of a reel-to-reel recorder. makes sense...sounds like David Bottril is "rolling tape" before Danny starts his track.

OpiAtE_666
12-05-2002, 04:49 PM
The first time I heard it, I just assumed it was an old film projector. Re-listening to it right now, I still think this is the most likely explanation, but I do like the idea of a futuristic door opening up.

More evidence for the projector theory would be the fact that the album turns off like a machine at the end.

EmbraceTdOxOmL
12-06-2002, 12:01 AM
I think this discussion has gone on way too long... To me its definately the sound of the band laughing at all of you for waisting your time discussing what the sound could be. This is by far the most overthought, overanylized 9 seconds of TOOL put into a thread in this entire forum. Its a fact that none of you will EVER KNOW what the band used to make that sound. I think you all should focus more on WHY they put it there, and how it gives you an ardent feeling just by knowing that you are a few short seconds from once again experience one of the most beutifull 78 min. of art for the ears and mind in the history of mankind.

So PLEASE, if your going to waist your time posting on this site (like me and many others), discuss something interesting, something worth discussing!

Thank You.

JuanPRS
12-06-2002, 08:49 AM
It´s just a noise that begins the greatest record of the XXI Century...

I think Lateralus is next to Dark Side Of The Moon and The White Album. A beautiful piece of art.

Penguin
12-06-2002, 09:11 PM
Okay every little goddam sound doesn't have to have a meaning.. did you hear that little beep.. oh oh!! It HAS to mean something.. because it's Tool

jeez

Hehe it's just a film projector thingy, that's what I thought but I don't think it has a MEANING, it just goes good with the starting of The Grudge

OpiAtE_666
12-07-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by JuanPRS
It´s just a noise that begins the greatest record of the XXI Century...

I think Lateralus is next to Dark Side Of The Moon and The White Album. A beautiful piece of art.

I completely agree. I think Lateralus is better than Dark Side of the Moon and the White Album, and Pink Floyd's one of my favorite bands.

BTW: Every little sound does mean something, because it's tool. And if you don't want people to analyze tool's songs, then don't go to the section of the site meant for analyzing tools songs. Jesus Christ, people are dumb.

Smokin joe
12-07-2002, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Penguin
Okay every little goddam sound doesn't have to have a meaning.. did you hear that little beep.. oh oh!! It HAS to mean something.. because it's Tool

i was just really curious to see what people thought the noise was. i dont really care what it means (although i did type something up), but whatever man. I can analyze tool as much as i want, and trust me, it's not that much. After you know too much, sometimes you aren't better off than before.

joe

Penguin
12-08-2002, 03:34 PM
I didn't mean to sound beligerant(am I a stupid beligerant fucker?).. but it is just some noise that starts out.. just because it's Tool.. well you get the point.. and if you don't, then oh well hehe.

Smokin joe
12-08-2002, 09:41 PM
Heh, i came off a little defensive, but yeah, i have to admit, i MIGHT have crossed the line with that question, but it was a pretty innocent quesiton, i mean, it's like a short noise, i was stoned... and well that = 'wtf is that noise anyway?'

joe - i mean, any other band, i probably wouldn't give a fuck

paraflux
12-09-2002, 12:26 PM
No, don't apologize. The noise in the begining has its place on the album or it wouldnt be there. If universes could possibly exist inside an amulet around a cat's neck, you don't think this sound or any other could have any significance? Why would anything else on the album then? I think the band is laughing at the people who are laughing at the people who are discussing this little noise. So fuck it, this board is for all people, not just those who want to discuss what they consider to be the meat of the project. For a band that teaches about synchronicity, and how to alter your reality to make it look like one coincidence after another, I would not expect any inadvertant sounds coming from the cd player. Even if the sound is just to fuck with us, it's still done for a reason.

46&2
12-09-2002, 02:06 PM
it sounds like a fan to me. A large one. I dont know what the significance would be though. Maybe it just sounds cool.

Jizzlobber
12-11-2002, 04:59 AM
To me the band will be laughing at you but what do I care, its your opinion and to be honest I don’t care what the band is laughing at. The only thing that matters to me about tool is about their music. This is an opinion forum so stop trying to think what the band is thinking. Read what mjk said on the front of the page. We are all way off but that really doesn’t matter, what matter is what with think and every idea I’ve heard all makes sense. What makes sense to me is that this sound is some type of spaceship opening up or some spaceship gun opening up cause the last song the guy is talking about aliens and then he like gets sucked up or beamed up. Hey that’s my opinion.

Wu_jian
12-11-2002, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by marc
are you referring to the drone in the begining of the show with the little synth sounds? i think that the drone is an enhanced sample of a sound that Bill Hicks made during one of his comedy skits called "shrooms"... he made the sound after talking about how wide open his third eye was after taking 5 dry grams... sort of the trip coming on....

What? You mean the 'psweaaaaaah'? or the 'rrr-rrr-rrr-rrr-rrr-rrr'?

What a great sig that'd be - 'Squeegee your third eye!'

btaylor5
12-11-2002, 02:40 PM
Whatever the noise is (and I happen to like to film projector idea) it occurs again near the beginning of the 3 minute interlude in Ticks and Leeches. Any thoughts on that?

Smokin joe
12-13-2002, 09:43 AM
well, this is a huge stretch (I can only make it now cause i'm pretty high), but, isn't supposedly Ticks and Leeches basically targetted at over-excited fans who attempt to totally become the band. I'm not too sure about this, T&L is still a weird song that i haven't really felt much about, but the general consensus is that it's about maybe, rabid fans like me, finding out reasons for everything.

because there is a reason for EVERYTHING (not just stuff in tool).

joe - drugs are bad, mmmmkay?

btaylor5
12-15-2002, 01:29 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of it possibly signifying a second beginning of sorts for the album. I don't know how exactly, since the sentiment of the song seems pretty much the same all the way through. Like usual, I'm confused.

As for fans that look into this stuff too much, well, the fact is if you look at many of the band's influences (Jung, Crowley, Campbell, etc. etc.) these were people that in many respects made it their life's work to analyze, make sense of things, find patterns that gave humanity a deeper understanding of what exactly is going on in this fucking wild ride of an existance. Not that I'm saying that trying to wrap your mind around a tool album is comparable to the work these people did, but I think in some ways it's very much related.

xSaveXmondaYx
12-17-2002, 07:25 PM
ok this is my theory: i heard people say it sounds kinda like a spaceship and that it also sounds like a film projector , well im thinking that the fact that the guy in Faaip de Oaid mentions aliens(spaceship) and then the little remote(film projector) sound that suggests that the movie(album) has ended which also takes us to what someone else said about how Lateralus compares to a movie , well i dunno sounded good when i thought about it

Let_Go
12-21-2002, 08:34 AM
From around 0:47 to 1:01 there is a noise similar to the opening which ends just before maynard enters the track. I thought this might be relevant as in the interlude of ticks & leeches there is a similar noise which ends just before maynard begins to scream quietly. This could be used to emphasise maynards presence into the songs.

I always thought of the opening noise as that of when you put the cd into your stereo. Either that or an elevator shaft as the two loud noises could be the noise of the elevator doors shutting. Or that of the cd tray slamming shut. However i like the idea of the projector now that i think of it.

Traveller
12-22-2002, 06:58 PM
It sound like some sort rotating machine, like when a computer hard drive starts up but on a much larger scale.
it gives the feeling that the rest of the album with its journey of pain, beauty, struggle, patience and awe is implied. like once the machine is switched on you just know that you're in for something BIG and it can't be stopped until it resolves itself,
And then after that sound when the drums and bass kick in,
Oh My God!

elevated
12-23-2002, 12:18 PM
when i first heard this sound it reminded me of an elevator.so i thought the band was saying when you put this cd in it kinda elevates you above the rest of the world for a little while.and to me it truly does.if that makes any sense.

George Bush Sr.
12-28-2002, 12:25 PM
JESUS GOD FOLKS, WE HAVE A MESSAGE BOARD FULL OF TOOL FANS BUT DO ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE BANDS THAT INFLUENCED TOOL? BUY PINK FLOYD'S WISH YOU WERE HERE ALBUM ALREADY. THEN WE CAN SHUT DOWN THIS QUESTION. DAMN

fibonacci
12-29-2002, 04:32 PM
i always thought it was some kind of power/energy generator...

SonOfWillieTheP
12-29-2002, 05:46 PM
The cd looks like a rotating wheel. If you put that in the "machine" (cd player) and you start it, it begins to work.
It may sound like a load of crap, but it would be cool if it's supposed to be that way!

It also could be a saw. Electric saws sound like that when you start them.

Scobularni
01-08-2003, 07:05 PM
I've always visualised it as some large machine loading up, from a button press.

I always related the machine itself to Tool... . To me it just means "here comes another mind-blowing album, just as you expected", in the same way as you expect a machine to keep producing products of a good standard.

The projector idea is convincing too, although my mum's old projectors never sounded that mechanical!

animantra
01-08-2003, 09:38 PM
I always have and still do picture an elevator.

GernBlanston
01-09-2003, 01:11 AM
i swear to god i keep hearing some machine at work that makes a similar sound. my best guess though would be that its the sound of a reel-to-reel being fired up in the studio after a good nights rest. it definitely has that rotational motor sound quality. i think a film projector is too clickety-clackety because of all the sprockets in the film. but real magnetic tape for audio is smooth and thats what i envision. they probably recorded the sound of the machine they use to record to have some recursive fun with us.

GoatKing
01-09-2003, 10:21 PM
I felt it was a sort of freight elevator starting up. Whether it goes up or down is beyond me. Up would make sense, since they're references to ascension in the song.

volcano lance
01-10-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by paraflux
... If universes could possibly exist inside an amulet around a cat's neck, you don't think this sound or any other could have any significance? ...
You dont have to bring MIB into this dude :)

animantra
01-10-2003, 07:13 PM
"You dont have to bring MIB into this dude :)"

hahaha

Professor Frink
01-10-2003, 07:36 PM
I'd say it's a film projector starting up in relation to the Nightmare Before Xmas synch, but I'd get laughed off the boards again :P

Lamb&Martyr
01-10-2003, 07:53 PM
Well, here's a new idea. Maybe I don't get out much, but I've never heard a movie projector, so I personally think it sounds like a jukebox selecting a song. Well, that's enough outta me, by the way, Happy New Year, Tool fans!

Misanthrope
01-12-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by George Bush Sr.
JESUS GOD FOLKS, WE HAVE A MESSAGE BOARD FULL OF TOOL FANS BUT DO ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE BANDS THAT INFLUENCED TOOL? BUY PINK FLOYD'S WISH YOU WERE HERE ALBUM ALREADY. THEN WE CAN SHUT DOWN THIS QUESTION. DAMN Where abouts is the noise on this album?

z_iron15
01-13-2003, 04:03 PM
The noise is definitely is very mysterious, I don't even think Sherlock Holmes could crack this one. So I think I'll try taking a stab at it. I beleive the noise comes from the game Super Metroid, where she uses here charge up beam. The noise reminds me of when the weapon is in the process of charging up to its full destructive capability, but really I don't have a fricken clue.

EndEyeQuote
01-17-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Professor Frink
I'd say it's a film projector starting up in relation to the Nightmare Before Xmas synch, but I'd get laughed off the boards again :P

not really - when this was dicussed in lenght at TOOLARMY someone mentioned that too - like i said i am still either way on whther its a coincadence but that is one point for the pro side

Cronos
01-17-2003, 10:31 PM
To me it's some kind of machine. A machine that has some kind of meaning probably. What it signifies I don't know.

The sounds throughout The Grudge lead me to think that it's the machine again going through stages or phases. The sound comes up with a change in the machines structure or design or use. As the sound comes up again, or makes another quirky machine like sound you hear throughout the track, Maynard changes his singing style. The way that Maynard sings sounds very artificial and automated. Like a drone, a machine, a robot. The whole song has that machine sound to me.

Go to 6:28 into the song, RIGHT when the drums let down, the riffs hear sound very automated. You'll hear faint oddball machine-like sounds hear, then at 6:41 the tempo changes again. Listen closely, you hear a sound in the background, sounds like clanking or a machine humming and making noises, the sound lessens in it's course at about 6:48, changing a bit. Then at about 6:53 everything seems to just drop for a second and you hear a charge up sound or build up sound of energy RIGHT before the scream at 6:56. The scream is like a massive discharge from this machine. At least that's what I've always envisioned. If this had a music video, I definately see something discharging a powerful energy or power from it at the scream. The whole machine sound to the song and charge up feel gives me that feeling.

Then we continue onto a slower song that leads into The Patient. Then Schism, and Parabol which is a slower song that leads into a Parabola with a machinelike shock or charge switching the tempo. At the end of Parabola it softly lets out leading you into the powerful Ticks & Leeches. This song seems to be draining, ala the interlude. Which is necessary, because it isn't a constant sound, it slowly but eventually builds up to the release and massive attack from Ticks and Leeches. I don't know what that person was talking about hearing the automated sound turn out again before the interlude, but it would not at all be suprising.

Lateralus comes up and then you hear, "Swing on the spirals, to..." Which I believe is the most beautiful part of the album. Lateralus is kind of slow which is fitting because after a powerful song like Ticks and Leeches it would be hard for any machine to stay constant without blowing itself up. That's why I thought the interlude was necessary, so this fictionary machine doesn't overheat, overdo itself. Lateralus leads into the whole Disposition/Reflection/Triad combo. The last words from Maynard being "Before we pine away!" Another beautiful moment. This seamlessly leads into Triad, which has a very automated sound to me as well. Kind of like it's in it's last stage, gone through all the other stages and the only thing left is to let it restart.

The final track is a hidden track to me, and just a reminder to think for yourself. It's full of static, and is a radio transmission that's barely getting in. Someone or something obviously is trying to prevent this from getting through and is trying to cut off the signal, that's why at the end you hear that sound, I disagree that it goes with the startup of a film projecter, like it sounds like a tv turning off. It's the signal being cut off, end transmission, something interfering with the signal, something that has to do with the radio thing. Look at the last words spoken by the narrator. "They want those major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more <i>easily controllable</i>." Easily controllable means un-questioning, never faltering in your ways, a so called useful idiot. You're not obviously thinking for yourself or questioning authority if you're that.

That's just me though, and the image I get is a machine, why it would be that I have no clue, but it's all right there to me. So is it suggesting that Maynard is a machine. Yes. What's his name spelled backwards? Dranyam. What significance does that have? None whatsoever.

david_19690106
01-18-2003, 01:34 PM
The sound at the beginning to "the grudge" is the sound of the recording studio's 24 track tape machine spooling up .....that's what it sounds like when you press play......the sound is what comes out of the studio monitors when the tape machine starts to playback a track.....nothing so exciting as alien spaceships or torture devices.....anyone who has been in the control room of a modern recording studio should recognize that sound.
Sorry to disappoint.

Edman
01-21-2003, 07:10 PM
I don't mean to take the fun out of this whole "what is that tricky sound" discussion but I've heard that sound so many times in video games and stuff for when elevators go up (and yes! down!) so the sound can only explain one thing.....
Tool likes videogames with elevators in it. THAT should settle this discussion

nddurst
01-21-2003, 07:41 PM
The same noise can be heard on an old episode of King of the Hill, when Hank takes Bobby to a dairy farm (forgot why), and they start up the milking machines.

Thank you.

kette
01-21-2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by ATG
I always thought it was the sound of a reel-to-reel recorder. makes sense...sounds like David Bottril is "rolling tape" before Danny starts his track.

yea, i always thought that too.

just to weigh in on the film projector thing, film projectors are never that even, and there is a flapping kind of noise as thu shutter opens and closes and the film advances. cool, if that's what you thought it was, but i am sticking with the reel to reel.

it kinds of makes the album feel like an artifact to me. like something peopel dug up centruies from now. hence the "primitive" device (reel-to-reel). maybe...?

and of course there's the "welcome to the machine" feel to it all.

forty6n2
01-22-2003, 12:39 PM
Before I listened to it carefully I just thought it was a garage door opening. But it seems to have a very warehouse sound to it. My best guess would be a saw, but who knows exactly what it is. Maybe we will never know.

XiPHiaS
02-18-2003, 03:20 PM
I would say its a film projector orso, i think tool likes to do things like this. I mean, making a CD which has sounds on in that are not CD-like. Now it's a film, on ænima it was a vinyl record (useful idiot)... But i've got no proof of course... :)

Edman
02-18-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by david_19690106
The sound at the beginning to "the grudge" is the sound of the recording studio's 24 track tape machine spooling up .....that's what it sounds like when you press play......the sound is what comes out of the studio monitors when the tape machine starts to playback a track.....nothing so exciting as alien spaceships or torture devices.....anyone who has been in the control room of a modern recording studio should recognize that sound.
Sorry to disappoint.

I have been in a great many modern recording rooms and im telling ya: its a sound effect used in tv shows, movies, videogames, etc, all the time. In my communications class i was editing a video i made and when i was searching through a sound effects cd that noise was on it! so IM sorry to dissappoint.

Well that settles this whacky discussion then...
now lets all get drunk and play ping-pong!!

XiPHiaS
02-18-2003, 05:16 PM
Well, can be... But it might have been meant like I said, a projector, film or watever starting up...
If those sounds come on CD's you don't have to record it yourself. Plus you get an endless dicussion on this site about it, because everybody knows it from something where the sound has been used before... They are just being mean...

Originally posted by Edman
Well that settles this whacky discussion then...
now lets all get drunk and play ping-pong!! [/B]
NO NO! Getting drunk would probably mean MORE pointless discussions (and that's what we all want... ;)

Psylocybin
02-19-2003, 01:05 PM
I heard that that same sound is in "welcome to the machine" by "Pink Floyd", and as far as i know tool are pink floyd fans so maybe it was taken from that....

XiPHiaS
02-19-2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Psylocybin
I heard that that same sound is in "welcome to the machine" by "Pink Floyd", and as far as i know tool are pink floyd fans so maybe it was taken from that....

Whatever it is, 'Welcome to the machine' would deffinately be a good discription of the feeling it gives me after i hit that play-buton...

forty6n2
03-16-2003, 12:11 PM
i think it is a saw, i think there is a connection between the design on the cd and the intro, i mean cmon, does the disc not look like a circular saw blade?

Steifel
03-23-2003, 07:31 AM
After reviewing the sound in question I've drawn some rough conclusions. It sounded like a machine being turned on, True enough. Will we ever figure out the exact cause for it, I don't know. It's probably a synth or some other gadget they have at their disposal. However it is the first and last puzzle we have to think about.

Timothy Leary had a phrase 'turn on, tune in, drop out' which 'How to operate your brain' consists of. Being on Tool's suggested list, Maybe this has some relevance. The beginning may represent your mind being turned on. At the end of Faaip De Oiad it then turns off leaving you with a message(the tunes) to interpret in anyway you dictate. The C.D. logo if indeed a blade saw may symbolize the cutting away of your old way of thinking and thus leaving you with a stump. You then are left to regrow in any way you choose. Although the more knowledge you obtain then apply in various forms to your tree the happier we all will be...

the_patient12
04-17-2003, 12:45 PM
ummm to me i think all of you are reading too far into this "noise" at the beginning of the album. it might turn out to just be some weird noise or sample they thought would sound cool at the beginning of the song.....then again it could be one of the "mysteries of tool" hehe...oh well

cainecrawford
04-20-2003, 06:35 PM
A new style powerplant to be built. It will house a advanced technology in Scalar Tech. I have A very vast concept that i believe will work. This will be the Center of the Next City. The City of Caine. You will notice in the book of Revelations it says they sang the songs of Moses. Well since they are prophets and they are singer, they will need a good stage. I think that the next step is to design one. I have the vision of 12 outter stages with one center stage. Thus 13 angels standing on display and 13 crystal skulls. Since Revelations and Genesis can be folded together to reach one outcome. I feel it is only fare to do it this way. As far as the Powerplant is concerned, lets just say scientist of today cut there magnets wrong.

It's this sound at the beginning, of the powerplant starting up that they were trying to mimic. It sounds more like an elecrtic motor of great size than an elevator.

Guitarboy
02-17-2004, 10:18 PM
The sound is an elevator. The grudge is about the tree of life and how depending on how you follow it you can either be led in a good path or a bad path. The elevator is used to be the same as this because an elevator can either bring you down or lift you up, depending on how you use it.

Stalkz
02-18-2004, 02:18 AM
ok this is my theory: i heard people say it sounds kinda like a spaceship and that it also sounds like a film projector , well im thinking that the fact that the guy in Faaip de Oaid mentions aliens(spaceship) and then the little remote(film projector) sound that suggests that the movie(album) has ended which also takes us to what someone else said about how Lateralus compares to a movie , well i dunno sounded good when i thought about it


The same sample is in the song Dirt Ball by Insane Clown Posse and Twiztid, it's about aliens coming to earth. It's the sound of something opening. A hydrolic powered door. (In this case it's an alien space ship/control center). It's not an elevator. They don't make that sound. In the case of Lateralus it depends on what the band wanted it to be. It would make a lot of sense that it be the opening and the last sound on Faaip De Oiad be the closing.


As for the first post, Ticks and Leeches... see the title? ...it's about people who are leeches. ......psychic vampires... people sucking your life force for status/substance. Not about some obsessive fan.