Apocalypse?

[blackandwhite]

I was talking to a friend last night, and he told me something about this song being about the apocalypse, 10k days in fire a water. Is there truth to this?

[eslupminoyler]

I was talking to a friend last night, and he told me something about this song being about the apocalypse, 10k days in fire a water. Is there truth to this?

proabably not, i think maynard made a metaphor, "Christ descended into hell, and ascended into Heaven"
He's saying that his mom is "in the fire," and it's "time for her to go home".

[YuShtink]

I think by "10,000 days in the fire is long enough" he is talking about his mother suffering for 27 years from her stroke before she finally died and was "pulled out of the fire" so to speak....

[bellamadia]

I was talking to a friend last night, and he told me something about this song being about the apocalypse, 10k days in fire a water. Is there truth to this?

Apocalypse is derived from a Greek word meaning "revelation" or an "unveiling." In those terms I would say that this song is apocalyptic... however I don't think it's about THE apocalypse that you are refering to (The Christian belief).

[blackandwhite]

Yeah, i didn't think it was about the apoccalypse, but I just wanted to make sure.

[turok2step]

Well dont be too sure. I think with Tool the songs are about whatever you want them to be. Adam once said that alot of Christians were telling him they really appreciated the message in Eulogy. Adam couldnt make much sense of it, but he sorta just said "to each his own" and went on with his life. If you get something positive out of it who cares whether thats what its really about.

[pasartanis]

I dont think it's about the apocalypse. I thinks maynard wanted to talk about all those hypocrite people involved in christianity and religion in general. Also telling that his mother had so much faith in religion that the only thing she deserves, is that she reaches heaven succesfully and get what she always hoped for. Independentily if maynard believes in all those things or not.
I think this song is too personal to maynard. Just about how he admired his mother so much.

[deppo]

I think we all agree that its about the trials and tribulations experienced by his mother on one level. However I also kinda think that there might be something else that no one has really nailed yet, it seems to me somewhat unliikely that tool would use the title of this song as the title for the whole album without there being some other reference on a deeper, perhaps less specifically personal level. Whilst I am a little skeptical about the apocalypse theory i did get the same sort of feeling that mayb this song, and the title of the record, had a more global relevance also.

[MemphisM]

I was talking to a friend last night, and he told me something about this song being about the apocalypse, 10k days in fire a water. Is there truth to this?

I think its about his mom. 10,000 days in the fire, or 10,000 days of hell on earth, etc.

[innerspacegirl]

i think 'right in two' is the official apocalypse song on 10KD.

if it happened by track 4, i mean, come on, how much farther can you take it??

[bellamadia]

Adam once said that alot of Christians were telling him they really appreciated the message in Eulogy. Adam couldnt make much sense of it, but he sorta just said "to each his own" and went on with his life. If you get something positive out of it who cares whether thats what its really about.

I guess, but that just cracks me up that a Christian got some sort of positive religious meaning out of Eulogy. Then again, that's a typical Christian, they only hear what they want to hear. "Come down. Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr." Yep, that's very Christian. lol

[dysolution]

I guess, but that just cracks me up that a Christian got some sort of positive religious meaning out of Eulogy. Then again, that's a typical Christian, they only hear what they want to hear. "Come down. Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr." Yep, that's very Christian. lol

I always figured that Eulogy was directed toward self-aggrandizing martyrs in general, such as "David Koresh," the leader of the Brand Davidian group in Waco, TX. In that respect, I could see where a Christian would appreciate would-be martyrs being told that they're just being asses and that their time will pass, and we'll all be ready to nail up the next fool who behaves just like they did.

I'm starting from the assumption that it's not about Jesus of Nazareth, however. It seems to me that Maynard has a great deal of reverence for the commonality among many religious traditions -- unconditional love -- and that's why I don't think he's trashing Jesus, someone who apparently exhibited it, in this song. I think he's trashing those that would imitate the theatrics of martyrdom without the foundation of love from which one can actually lead others spiritually.

[bellamadia]

I always figured that Eulogy was directed toward self-aggrandizing martyrs in general, such as "David Koresh," the leader of the Brand Davidian group in Waco, TX. In that respect, I could see where a Christian would appreciate would-be martyrs being told that they're just being asses and that their time will pass, and we'll all be ready to nail up the next fool who behaves just like they did.

Good point. It has been mentioned that this song is specifically about L. Ron Hubbard, though I think you are correct that it can apply to many people such as David Koresh and the like.

I'm starting from the assumption that it's not about Jesus of Nazareth, however. It seems to me that Maynard has a great deal of reverence for the commonality among many religious traditions -- unconditional love -- and that's why I don't think he's trashing Jesus, someone who apparently exhibited it, in this song. I think he's trashing those that would imitate the theatrics of martyrdom without the foundation of love from which one can actually lead others spiritually.

Yeah, I wasn't saying he's trashing Jesus, I don't think that's the case at all. At a second look, perhaps the Christian that thanked Adam saw this as an attack on anyone that is trying to be a martyr like Jesus because Jesus is, to them, the only true martyr. Though I don't believe that was Maynards point in the lyrics.

[djqwerty13]

Well dont be too sure. I think with Tool the songs are about whatever you want them to be. Adam once said that alot of Christians were telling him they really appreciated the message in Eulogy. Adam couldnt make much sense of it, but he sorta just said "to each his own" and went on with his life. If you get something positive out of it who cares whether thats what its really about.


Those christians must've never read the lyrics... lmao...

silly little sheep...

[djqwerty13]

I think we all agree that its about the trials and tribulations experienced by his mother on one level. However I also kinda think that there might be something else that no one has really nailed yet, it seems to me somewhat unliikely that tool would use the title of this song as the title for the whole album without there being some other reference on a deeper, perhaps less specifically personal level. Whilst I am a little skeptical about the apocalypse theory i did get the same sort of feeling that mayb this song, and the title of the record, had a more global relevance also.


I think it would make perfect sense for this album to be named after a song about Maynard's mother. Especially considering how often in their music the battle between the faithful, and the analytical arises. His mother was probably a great muse for his writing, considering that the are on opposite sides of the spectrum.

[paralyzed_vampire]

I think we all agree that its about the trials and tribulations experienced by his mother on one level. However I also kinda think that there might be something else that no one has really nailed yet, it seems to me somewhat unliikely that tool would use the title of this song as the title for the whole album without there being some other reference on a deeper, perhaps less specifically personal level. Whilst I am a little skeptical about the apocalypse theory i did get the same sort of feeling that mayb this song, and the title of the record, had a more global relevance also.

Yea, I think there's something more too. I just haven't figured it out yet...