10 - Right In Two lyrics [Archive] - Page 2

nfinaT

05-24-2006, 09:16 PM

I'm not sure how anyone (other than the Band and others very close) is 100% sure. I see these comments and wonder how open some of the forum members truly are when, in fact, it's likely many are wrong. The fact opposing augments are being made indicate about half of you are wrong (while you are yet 100% positive and lacking any doubt whatsoever in your decisively decided brain) I'm not sure a live performance is the best place to analyze vocals, and even if some soundboard bootleg is circulating (which would be of great interest to me), it's not a definitive indication of the studio version of the vocals/lyrics.

I have some ideas which have gone largely unnoticed, or at least mostly ignored, due to the disjointed nature of this debate. This is the third thread, now, that I've posted this argument. I have yet to hear any logical analysis or refutation of anything I've put forth. Here it is, one more time, for anyone who has more to offer beyond, "I'm 100 [bla bla bla]..", or "Its definitely [poo poo]..."

While most have accepted that "... RIGHT in two" is used to mean "... EXACTLY in two," as in "cut that pie right in two," I believe that there are TWO USES of the word "right" in the song, and that it IS NOT used to mean "exactly" in EITHER INSTANCE.

FIRST USE:

The first time the phrase "... right in two" is used, I hear MJK say "where there's one there bound to divide... A " (something before the RRRRRuh sound) " right in two. Amazingly, there is a consensus that this song addresses some sort of fighting over land, and in such case both parties would likely believe they should have this land. This land, lets say for the sake of presenting my argument, is the "Holy Land" or Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip. There's one holy land, and two groups who have a legitimate argument for a CLAIM, ENTITLEMENT, or RIGHT to the land. So where there's ONE [land], there bound to divide A RIGHT [entitlement] IN TWO. (FYI: In the case there exists more than one deed to a property, after litigation only one is deemed valid.)

There is, the second time, as subtle sound following "divide" that could be interpreted as "it" (or perhaps the second "d" in "divide" sung with more emphasis), but Maynard says again following that, "A right in two." Grammatically, whether it's the object of the verb "divide" or a participle modifying the pronoun "it," RIGHT has the SAME MEANING as in the initial chorus, or whatever you might call it (refrain? I'm not student of music, only a lover).

SECOND USE:

Immediately following the line "... turn an eye to heaven..." I hear something much different before "... right in two." I believe this is MJK [or angel] doing what he suggests would be repugnant not to do, and that is to wish for, perhaps pray for, the parties to gain a higher consciousness of existence, and to act with angelic understanding (obviously possible for humans as demonstrated by the angel, Maynard, when he wrote this song with angelic perspective). This request is verbalized by the line, "Guide, Light all Right in two" or perhaps "God, Light all right in two", That is to say, please help these people to step beyond their monkey mentality and to see and do what is good, loving, patient, and reasonable... Make it plain to see, or "light all right" for both sides... "in two."

That's my take on it. I know that it's possible to mold what is said into what you want to hear, but I've listened intently. I believe he's AT LEAST saying something that RHYMES with "GUIDE, LIGHT all right..." and I believe this jives with the essence of the song.

There's also some discussion about the line following the first "Angels on the sideline again" in the "tug of war" stanza. It sounds to me like he says "... love and patience and reason" or "loving patience and reason." COUNT THE VERBAL SYLLABLES. I thought it was "benching..." or "bench all..." Someone else suggested it was "picture..." It’s hard to call that one. Both seem to fit WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE SONG.

I know it may be tiring for some when others post possibilities (some not as well thought out as others) while, for the most part, everyone has already agreed on 95%. I know myself that once I've accepted lyrics in a song, I will allow myself to hear the same thing until I'm nudged to consider some other possibility. Perhaps I am mentally altering what I am hearing, but the suggestions I'm putting out there out seem logical, contextually, while matching in meter and rhyme with the vocals. I feel especially convinced about the dual use of "right."

I did see some posts that referenced a Biblical story where a child was sliced down the middle (or something), but I doubt the mere mention of angels warrants inferring anything in the bible other than something directly relevant, like a feud between monkeys, or something (of which I'm unaware).

I'm also curious if anyone can explain the "cutting our love...” position. What I hear at the end is three syllables plus "Right in Two"... Is that what most are hearing? “Cutting our love …" / "gotta cut it all..." seem to me like 7 and 8 respectively... Are people suggesting there are portions of "gotta cut it all..." that are not vocalized independently (swallowed?)? As far as "cutting our love...," advocates, see next paragraph my suggestion (if not converted to the Guide, Light all Right..." rhyme pattern...).

HELP ME UNDERSTAND!!! Maybe we can get everyone to sing what they think they hear, like all the submissions for everyone singing the begining of "The Pot." Our differences will surely be exagerated. Then we might be able to see the other side of the coin... (I suck at singing, but I'll still do it.) Someone start that thread.....

nfinaT

05-24-2006, 10:45 PM

methinks youz definitely wrongz

I think he's closer than most.

There're SIX (6) Syllables --- 1 - - - - 2 - - -- 3 -- - - 4 - - - - 5 - -- 6
phonetics for tha needy----Guy ---- lied ---- all - - - right - - - in -- two

possibility------------------Guide--- Light --- all - - -right - - - in ---two

possibility------------------God --- Light ---- all - - -right - - - in ---two
possibility------------------God --- led ---- all - - right - - - into (5 &6 )
(except pronounce led like light, or lied)

some have suggested cutlets , hmmmm
(as in porkchop theory)----

[Quote: by Praefector- broken down (i.e. annihilated ) {{{{ Quote here }}}} ]

{{{{and ive managed to narrow it down to

"gotta divide it all right in two" (about 2/3rds of the time i hear this distinctly) }}}}[ end quote]

---take out " ta div" and gotta divide becomes go--ide *ok first syllable accounted for with inaudible "ta div" *
--- no " leye" sound/rhyme to follow? Now this option seems unlikely -as in "If the glove 'DOESN'T FIT' ..."

So far this (following works better that option 1: --->>>> "Can't right all lets try Two ".... If you subscribe to the ' Its OK to pronounce "let's try" like "right in" ....' school of 'thought.'

["(Now for Preafector's option two) Praefector] Quote continues}

{{{{"cuuuuuuuuut it all right in two" (i hear once per time through the chorus)}}}}

Change "Cut" To" Cutlet" and drop "it
There're SIX (6) Syllables --- 1 - - - - 2 - - -- 3 -- - - 4 - - - - 5 - -- 6
possibility------------------Cut --- Let ---- all - - -right - - - in ---two

OK that works "CUTLET ALL RIGHT IN TWO" .....

(* Here I must concede that "Right" means "Exactly" *)

**The New Praefectorian Postulates**

(* -1->>> Praefector now has deemed it OK/preferable to write "it" when one hears "lied" or "led" or "light" or any one syllable 'L-word'... or just say "Light" or "lied" when you see/read "it" *)

[* -2- "Just Say F*ck-it" - Loosely Translated from Praefector in '06] *]

{{{{and

"cut and divide it all right in two" (which i hear almost at random points)}}}}

--1-----2----3----4---5-----6---7---8
"cut --and --divide it --all -right -in --two"

Again not really that likely without serious liberties taken with the English language

{{{{
all 3 are close enough for me to sing along to the song and all 3 have pretty much the same meaning so were really splitting hairs from this point forward. }}}}}

[meaning (general):"I have no desire to consider what people say, or to search for reasonable explanations beyond my own presumptuous and sophomoric shots in the dark. You may make sense, but [adapted loosely]--- 'ME NOT THINKS VERY MUCH' --so Ill stick with my cutlet theory. UP YOURS, F*CKERS" ]

{{{{once the man himself prints out the lyrics well know for sure... until then any of these variations is fine.}}}}

[Translated: I don't care to think that there may be some intelligent suggestions from some person I don't know somwhere in cyberspace. Maynard is most likely just mumbling together some form of some shit but it all means JUST CUT IT UP DUDE ... MAN ER... well I don't like to think so whATEVER... TOOL ROCKS ! Cut it all in TWO! yeeeeeeeee hoooooooo"]

^^^^^^END OF RAMBLE---STILL PISSED

Brother to Brother : you'll not find anything if you are not looking.......

..................................you'll seldom find much if you are usually not looking....

note- There is no implication that the author thinks he/she is right, or that he/she is an intellectual. It is implied, however that the author has a deep seeded and sincerely loving hunger to thrive and to help others thrive mentally, spiritually, and physically.

unearthlygrace

05-25-2006, 08:15 AM

~I think the lyrics towards the end go something more like:

Fight for the cloud, over earth, over sky and
Fight over light, over ground, over hell and
Light over love, over sun, over blood and
Fight 'til they die ...?.... full of lies and

That one part is still a mystery to me however. Music and sudden blast of voice baffle my ears.~

Ranger10000

05-26-2006, 01:51 AM

i made a video of the song with the lyrics displayed throughout, but its over 300 megs... anyone got a ftp site? i'll up it if anyone wants to see it. I used the lyrics on this site, and what i hear also in some parts.

Caduceus11

05-26-2006, 06:04 AM

Ranger10000

05-26-2006, 09:56 AM

I doubt that its correct, but when I sing along I sing:
"Collide all, right in two. "
That was just my first impression & I haven't been able to come up with anything that sounds closer or makes any more sense than that so until further notice, or our ability to come to a consenus here, I think I'm just going to stay with that.

That does sound like what hes saying a lot... although Collide it all sounds closer

but that does send this lyric search in a new direction. Of course its still wrong and makes no sense.

guitarpete987

05-26-2006, 12:41 PM

This chorus and the pushit chorus are the two tool songs that are the hardest for me to understand.

Someone cleared up the pushit chorus for me recently, as close as I can really come to believe, at least. But all I know is that the pushit chorus is not really what the official lyrics say so this might not be either when they are released.

EDIT: And just for the record, it most sounds like "Gotta divide it all, right in two". All of the consonants are just really soft. Really listen hard. I think this is it but who knows that the official lyrics will be.

beastswole99

05-26-2006, 03:41 PM

I hear cutting my own right in two.

And as for what nfinaT was saying earlier, I agree with you about the song relating heavily to the fight over the Holy Land. The division between Judaism/Christianity and Islam goes all the way back to Abraham.

Quoted from Wikipedia

In the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament), Ishmael's life is described in the Book of Genesis chapters 16 and further. In Genesis 16 Sarai (Abram's wife) gives him her maid-servant Hagar to bear him children, since she believed that God had kept her from having children (16:2).

Hagar became pregnant and despised Sarai who then expelled Hagar from the home of Abraham in retaliation. Hagar fled from Sarai and ran into the wilderness, where an angel appeared to her. The angel of the Lord told her to return, adding

* "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."

The angel also said to her:

* You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.
* He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. (NIV, Genesis 16)

So Hagar returned to Abraham's house, and had a son whom she named Ishmael. Fourteen years after this the Lord visited Sarah. Isaac being born to Abraham by his wife Sarah, Ishmael, who till then had been considered as the sole heir, saw his hopes disappointed. Five or six years afterwards, Ishmael displeased Sarah, and she prevailed on Abraham to expel him and his mother.

Hagar, with Ishmael, wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba, and when reduced to great distress, a voice from heaven said "What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation." (Genesis 21)

They lived in the wilderness of Paran, where Ishmael became an expert in archery. His mother married him to an Egyptian woman.

God promised Abraham:

* Then God said, "Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you by this time next year." (Genesis 17)

These twelve rulers, the twelve sons of Ishmael, were named Nebaioth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah (See Genesis 25)

Ishmael also had a daughter named Mahalath or Bashemath (Gen 36:3). She married Esau (Gen 28:9).

So basically, Muslims are descendants of Ishmael and believe that he is the rightful owner of the birthright (therefore inheriting the Holy Land) and Jews/Christians are descendants of Isaac and believe the birthright belongs to Isaac and his descendants. Christians, however, were given a new covenant when Jesus came around, and that is kind of why they are not so involved in this dispute.

So the birthRIGHT is split in two. Who knows?

xtremb

05-26-2006, 08:47 PM

Angels on the sideline, ?????????

or

Angel's on the sideline, (angel is)

not a big change but..........
is there 1 or many
i think 1 cause of the father reference

Why did Father give these humans free will [..]
Father blessed them all with reason

just a thought by the way

peripheral

05-27-2006, 04:54 AM

what does sammy hagar have to do with this? i like it better when things involve dlr.

Ranger10000

05-27-2006, 02:30 PM

This is what i have been hearing

"Fight,all the time,over earth,over sky,they fight,over life,over blood, over air and
they(light) fight <--- light in the middle mixed in with fight
over blood,over sight,over beloved,they fight,till they die,over words,over lies
They fight..."

Caduceus11

05-28-2006, 06:57 AM

EDIT: And just for the record, it most sounds like "Gotta divide it all, right in two". All of the consonants are just really soft. Really listen hard. I think this is it but who knows that the official lyrics will be.

I WAS SINGING THAT AT ONE POINT, BUT THE WORD "DIVIDE" JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO WORK EVERY TIME. BUT I THINK THAT'S CLOSER THAN WHAT i SAID....

Caduceus11

05-28-2006, 06:59 AM

Caduceus11

05-28-2006, 07:01 AM

YES!!! I JUST MADE CLASS 4 "THINKER"....
AND I'M MUCH MORE THAN THAT....HEHEHE

Ranger10000

05-29-2006, 07:26 PM

YEA, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT...THAT'S PERFECT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S WRITTEN THAT PART RIGHT IN HERE YET....

Thanks...

I also have a live version of right in two and maynard is whispering this whole sequence and leaves out a lot

this is what he whispers

They fight, till they die, over sun, over air,
They fight, till they die, over earth, over air,
They fight, till they die, over blood, over love,
They fight, till they die, over earth, over earth, (or over ends of the earth) Cant tell a lot of guitars cloud the end
they fight (very clearly whispers this at the end)

Maynard either forgets his lyrics which ive heard him do live with Rosetta Stoned, or decides on the spot to go with what he wants. But Rosetta stoned it was obvious he forgot, cause his lyrics were unintelligable, but maybe he really did say something... who knows

Also its impossible to tell what the chorus is... but it sounds like this

Cuttin our love right in two
gotta divide it all right in two
Gotta divide it all right in two

knee deep

05-30-2006, 10:52 AM

Cut and divide it all right in two.... (i am 100% sure about the "divide it all right in two"-part).

I hear "Divide all right in two." Only like most others opinion there is something either in front of divide or maynard pronounces divide purposely different to make it sound like different words. I hear Davide all right into and sometimes there sounds like a "c" or a "g" instead or in front of the "d" in divide. I think sometimes it could be cut it all right in two, but other times i definitely hear the "vide." I dont know. I think they purposely do this so we can take on many interpretations and ponder over the meaning. This is why it takes so long for the official words come out.

johnnydex

05-30-2006, 02:15 PM

Cutting the light all right in two

Caduceus11

05-30-2006, 02:55 PM

so dogmatic, this guy.

It could be that, but the thing is...in my experience, with Maynard's lyrics, its going to be something totally different than what we think it is.

EGG-MAN

05-30-2006, 03:28 PM

I know this is a very minute detail in the whole scheme of things but in the very first lines of the song (according to the lyrics page) it goes

Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.

Does anyone else hear:

puzzled, unamused.

I know it is very very minor, i was just wondering if anyone else was hearing that as well.

Caduceus11

05-31-2006, 02:28 PM

I've never heard anything other than :
"Puzzled and amuzed..."

I think it fits the theme here...as it starts they are a bit amuzed by the situation but upon further dissection of the issue, they lose the amuzement.

Mike590

05-31-2006, 04:16 PM

All ive heard is puzzled and muzed. I figured it was amused, but cant hear the beginning. Ill post my whole interp of song wen i finish hw.

Mike590

05-31-2006, 04:19 PM

Just a quick addition, it sounds like:

Cut it like a (w)hole right in two.

Usuall;y you cant hear it, but i just heard it around 7:40. Worth checking out?

johnnydex

06-02-2006, 06:27 AM

so dogmatic, this guy.

It could be that, but the thing is...in my experience, with Maynard's lyrics, its going to be something totally different than what we think it is.

Did not mean to come across dogmatic. I was just throwing it out there. I, of course have no credibility here but I was thinking he was saying "Cutting the light all right in two". It is very possible he's saying "Cut and Divide all right in two" . which really makes more sense in the context of the song. Its funny I hear both depending on which one I am thinking. As far as you saying Its going to be something totally different, thats why I was posting my thoughts. I have not seen anyone else with that opinion. Love the song, has grown to be my favorite on the album.

visualtim

06-02-2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by n_run
It is definitely Puzzled, unamuzed

No not really

To expand on CaseLogic's convincing argument as to why it's not "unamused," and is instead "and amused"...

If one goes ahead to the next similar line "Baffled and confused," the "d" sound after "and" is pretty much absent. So does that mean the line is "Baffled unconfused"? Of course it isn't. Plus, the "a" sound in "and" in the line "Baffled and confused" is present in "Puzzled and confused". So it definately isn't a "u" at all.

It's a very tough call, but if you think about it (and I hate thinking too deeply into the meaning of songs, because that can distort good lyric decyphering judgement), the angels could have fun watching on their bench because they refer to the monkeys as "silly". If they were unamused, it'd be more of a negative connotation like "pitiful" or "poor".

MetaAsmo

06-03-2006, 12:37 AM

If anybody was still curious, it's "Cutting and lieing it all right in two"
Sometimes "Cut and lie it all right in two" etc

Ranger10000

06-03-2006, 01:09 AM

Did not mean to come across dogmatic. I was just throwing it out there. I, of course have no credibility here but I was thinking he was saying "Cutting the light all right in two". It is very possible he's saying "Cut and Divide all right in two" . which really makes more sense in the context of the song. Its funny I hear both depending on which one I am thinking. As far as you saying Its going to be something totally different, thats why I was posting my thoughts. I have not seen anyone else with that opinion. Love the song, has grown to be my favorite on the album.

I agree with ya, i think its gonna be totally different.... especially since when he screams it in the last verse of the song i cant make out what he's saying...

i keep hearing (in that part only) "Child something" or "Try something" or even "Cry something" ... something of course is unknown.... around 7:43

MetaAsmo

06-03-2006, 05:22 AM

It is "Cutting and lieing it all right in two"
Or he says "Cut and lie it all right in two"

End of discussion. Close the thread.

Ranger10000

06-03-2006, 10:25 AM

MetaAsmo

06-03-2006, 03:15 PM

Well ok that does sound just like what he's saying...

but now tell me what he says at 7:43

Cause that first word is not Cut...

but i do like Cut and lie it all ... sounds just like what he's saying... good job

At 7:43 that's when he's saying "Cutting and lieing it all right in two" which is why it sounds like more syllables than when he says "Cut and lie it all right in two".

MetaAsmo

06-05-2006, 01:47 AM

Ok I just listen to a live version and it's definitely "Gotta Divide it all Right In Two". I thought it was "Cut an' divide", but I changed my mind. And all this "cutting our love" and "cut and lie" or "cut my own" is just wrong. Listen:

gotta divide (http://distortiononline.com/mp3/2006-05-13.Right%20In%20Two.mp3)

Incorrect.

There are 2 different ways he delivers this line, as has been discussed in the other thread. One version contains more syllables than the other. If it was "Gotta divide it all right in two" there is no way to add more syllables to that line without completely changing the words.

I have listened to the live version very closely and I'm 100% it is "Cut and like it all right in two", and the longer version is "Cutting and lieing it all right in two"

Take a listen.

Toby King

06-05-2006, 06:14 PM

I disagree with most of the lyrics posted on the net for this song but have no better suggestions myself of what they may be....except one. Towards the end of the song where the net post the lyrics "Angels on the sideline again,
[Mixing love / Benched along] with patience and reason." I think the line is "Petulant with patience and reason." I am certain about the "p" sound at the start of the line and "petulant" makes more sence in context with the song than anything else I've seen posted.

swampyfool

06-05-2006, 06:28 PM

Gnome_Chomsky

06-05-2006, 06:53 PM

I'm sorry, what does petulant mean?

MetaAsmo

06-05-2006, 08:43 PM

I agree that it does sound very much like Petulant.....but the line simply makes no sense, petulant is the adjective of Petulance....and it's a complete contradiction to say "Petulant with patience and reason". Petulance having rather negative connotations, and 'patience and reason' obviously more about love and compassion.

It does sound like that though, perhaps the contradiction is intentional and it's just clever lyrics?

Ranger10000

06-05-2006, 08:47 PM

At 7:43 that's when he's saying "Cutting and lieing it all right in two" which is why it sounds like more syllables than when he says "Cut and lie it all right in two".

Sorry i dont hear "Cut" at 7:43.

And just for the record, even though it does sound like "Cuttin and lie it all " , i dont believe thats what hes saying. That just doesnt make sense. It's gonna be something different and it will make sense.

unto her a vineyard

06-05-2006, 09:10 PM

right in rangers

swampyfool

06-05-2006, 09:21 PM

I'm sorry, what does petulant mean?
Dictionary.com says . . .
petulant (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=petulant)

The second definition, contemptuous, seems to be consistent with the characterization of the Angels' regard for what we have achieved with the father's blessing of reason. As for petulant with patience, perhaps this is a suggestion that the time for patience is beyond us, and the time to correct our folly is now.

MetaAsmo

06-05-2006, 09:32 PM

Sorry i dont hear "Cut" at 7:43.

And just for the record, even though it does sound like "Cuttin and lie it all " , i dont believe thats what hes saying. That just doesnt make sense. It's gonna be something different and it will make sense.

Lieing is a very human trait and is very much what is going on today with the media and politicians. The Iraq war....the Oil crisis....the 'attempted' war with Iraq....
The lieing is what keeps the average 9 - 5 Joe Bloggs in the complete dark about what is actually going on.

I say it fits perfectly with what the song is talking about.

And again, at 7:43 he is saying "Cutting and lieing it all right in two"......not "Cut"

There is no difference between the line at 7:38, and 7:43. They are exactly the same, and both times it is "Cutting and lieing it all right in two".

After listening to the live recording I'm 100%

visualtim

06-05-2006, 10:13 PM

I'm sorry to be the negative, but that clip really doesn't help out a great deal. I listened to it, loud, slowed down, regular, and to be blunt, it isn't the greatest of live audio clips from Tool.

So, I'm going out on a limb here and saying it doesn't conclusively proove anything right now. There's gonna have to be another clearer, live version. Or else someone post the same file but clean it up a bit.

visualtim

06-05-2006, 10:37 PM

Oops, Double post. :P That's what happens when I use the "Back" button.

Melanos

06-06-2006, 03:00 PM

i thought it was "perched along with patience and reason" like they are high above and outta reach like patience and reason to us humans ...... dunno though

but yeah..... sounds like Petulant now that i listen to it again

juxtapose

06-07-2006, 09:44 AM

Its not "cutting our love right in two"

Listen to the last verse its clearly

"Try dividing all right in two."

Merely a suggestion!

swampyfool

06-07-2006, 09:50 AM

The problem is that it's not "clearly" anything.

Ranger10000

06-08-2006, 05:14 AM

i hear "been so long" or "been too long" with patience and reason

in the live version

CaseLogic

06-08-2006, 07:27 AM

visualtim

06-08-2006, 05:46 PM

i hear "been so long" or "been too long" with patience and reason

in the live version

If it's the live version that was just posted above (with the link), then I dunno what to tell ya. I can hardly hear the words (the album's clearer), the people in the clip drown out everything, and it's not exactly CD quality.

As it's been said before in this thread, "Benched along with..." goes along with the whole "Angels on the sideline..." line.

And a lot of other people are hearing different things. It's not exactly the clearest line in the world, so it's expected.

aperfectnineinchtool

06-08-2006, 07:50 PM

REPUGNANT IS THE CREATURE WHO WOULD SQUANDER THE ABILITY TO LIFT AN EYE TO HEAVEN, CONSIOUS OF HIS FLEETING TIME HERE... possibly the most beautiful line/lyric ever written!

nighthawk

06-08-2006, 08:14 PM

REPUGNANT IS THE CREATURE WHO WOULD SQUANDER THE ABILITY TO LIFT AN EYE TO HEAVEN, CONSIOUS OF HIS FLEETING TIME HERE... possibly the most beautiful line/lyric ever written!
isn't it REPUGNANT IS A CREATURE WHO WOULD SQUANDER THE ABILITY TO LIVE TO LIGHT A HEAVEN CONSCIOUS OF HIS FLEETING TIME HERE?

smeefsmeef

06-08-2006, 10:36 PM

To me it sounds like either---- cut and divide it all right in two----- or gotta divide it all right in two

cut and divide it all right in two

DON IOTAE

06-08-2006, 10:41 PM

I really don't know wtf he says there... and I disagree with you both.

Toby King

06-09-2006, 12:49 AM

i hear "been so long" or "been too long" with patience and reason

in the live version

I haven't heard the live version. I'll have to get a hold of it and re-assess those lyrics.

SunBurN

06-09-2006, 09:31 AM

MetaAsmo

06-09-2006, 01:31 PM

I have the live version from Toronto and it definitely sounds to me like:

repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven concious of his fleeting time here

cut and divide it all right in two...

Definately agree with the repugnant line, I think that box can be ticked.

Still nowhere near convinced about the divide part. I think that argument may only be settled when the offical lyrics are posted.

Lotus 2

06-09-2006, 01:51 PM

visualtim

06-09-2006, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by MetaAsmo
Originally Posted by SunBurN
I have the live version from Toronto and it definitely sounds to me like:

repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven concious of his fleeting time here

Definately agree with the repugnant line, I think that box can be ticked.

I agree completely. And I'm sure you meant, "conscious" with the "s".

Lotus 2

06-10-2006, 04:42 AM

Google "AWL".
It's an ice pick type of tool.
Maynard is an obscure fuck, and you can here this as plain as day.
cut it, LIGHT AND ALL, right in two

Lotus 2

06-10-2006, 04:44 AM

I haven't heard the live version. I'll have to get a hold of it and re-assess those lyrics.
VIGILANT with patience and reason

swampyfool

06-10-2006, 06:16 AM

VIGILANT with patience and reason
Hmm. I heard sawthe suggestions of "vigilant" and "petulant," and without listening to the music at the time, I thought that they made lyrical sense (more, anyway, than earlier suggestions). But after listening to it again with these new ideas in mind, it is my opinion that the phoenetics are all wrong for this. The syllable that directly preceeds ". . . with patience and reason," seems to rhyme with bong. Unless Maynard is adding a wierd to pronunciation ("vigilaunt" or "petulaunt-" which seem unlikely), I think it has to be "benched along . . ." continuing the sports allegory of "angels on the sideline-" as people on the sideline tend to be benched.

nighthawk

06-10-2006, 08:15 AM

i'm re-posting these, because i put them in the wrong place. sorry.
i think the chorus is: cut it, light and all, right in two.
towards the end: angels on the sideline again; VIGILANT with patience and reason.
in the end i'm pretty sure it says: Angels on the sideline again , BEEN SO LONG WITH patience and reason; but in the chorus i'm really confused because i understand something like: cutting light all, right in two.

Lotus 2

06-10-2006, 09:23 AM

in the end i'm pretty sure it says: Angels on the sideline again , BEEN SO LONG WITH patience and reason; but in the chorus i'm really confused because i understand something like: cutting light all, right in two.
i'm not going to conjecture about the "---------- patience and reason" part anymore. i think we'll just have to wait and see. but i'm almost certain about the chorus. it might be "cutting it", or "cut it", but the "light and all" is definitely in there.

Terry21

06-10-2006, 11:43 AM

No, it's divide it all. Gotta divide it all or cut (?) divide it all right in two. One of these two has got to be the right one.

visualtim

06-10-2006, 12:03 PM

Angels on the sideline again
Benched along with patience and reason

Look, it's been covered plenty of times in this particular thread.

This is imagery. The angels are on the sideline. They aren't in play at all. They just sit there, and watch. Baffled, confused, etc.
Putting aside what your ear tells for (for a minute): is it really so hard to think that, on this sideline, they have been benched? And, along with angels, patience and reason have been benched too? Because, if all three had been in play, then those "silly monkeys" wouldn't be so keen on killing each other over land. Or other silly things.

Now, your ears are an important part of the human body. Why not, every once in a while, you turn down the volume on your cd/mp3/media player? Just because it can go to "100%", doesn't mean it should always be up that high. And yes, repeated exposure to concerts can cause a degree of deafness you wouldn't immediately be aware of.

Remember, only YOU can stop silly lyrics!

wearethestories

06-10-2006, 01:11 PM

anyone think it could be
"Donkeys talking, monkey know that Eden has enough to go around"

doesn't make a helluva lot of sense (and I agree "don't these" seems to fit lyrically, but I keep hearing DONKEYS... and it fits with two of the posts from Maynard on his myspace)

www.myspace.com/censorshipisacancer

swampyfool

06-10-2006, 02:25 PM

anyone think it could be
"Donkeys talking, monkey know that Eden has enough to go around"
Hi! No!

Typical

06-10-2006, 03:14 PM

it has to be "benched along." it makes perfect sense. angels can't be petulant or vigilant anyway can they?

and i hadn't nailed that entire "repugnant" line either. i'm in full agreement with whoever commented on the beauty of that line.

SunBurN

06-10-2006, 09:30 PM

I agree completely. And I'm sure you meant, "conscious" with the "s".

Yep, typo

smeefsmeef

06-12-2006, 07:17 PM

anyone think it could be
"Donkeys talking, monkey know that Eden has enough to go around"

I hear "Donkeys talking, monkeyS know that Eden has enough to go around"

Almost the same as you, put monkey is plural. That's what he sings, Phonetically speaking.

tabula.rassa

06-13-2006, 10:23 AM

i hear him say, both:

"cutting our love right in two,
cutting it all right in two..."

...alternating the two lines...

and i'm positive it's "benched along with..." tword the end...

we have to remember that lyrics are variable... he won't always say the same thing and that's part of the beauty...

PeAcE...

CrazedDemon

06-13-2006, 02:07 PM

i thought he said Donkeys at first too, but i'm sure it's don't these......

Happyfunball

06-14-2006, 12:49 AM

"Lift a light to heaven" is what I've always understood the line to be personally. Within the religious/spiritual context of the song, seems to fit just as good if not perhaps better than "lift an eye". Also adds a small connection to 10,000 Days (Wings part 2) where he mentions using the light he was given by his mother to guide her to heaven.

Myke Zebb

06-14-2006, 02:16 AM

hey, here's what i got

cut it, divide it all right in two
gotta divide it all right in two
cut it, divide it all right in two
gotta divide it all right in two

yup.....

bellamadia

06-14-2006, 04:56 AM

I hear "Donkeys talking, monkeyS know that Eden has enough to go around"

Almost the same as you, put monkey is plural. That's what he sings, Phonetically speaking.

Are you guys really fuckin serious? UMMM... As others have said, it's obviously

DON'T THESE talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?

DAR!

wearethestories

06-14-2006, 07:50 AM

Are you guys really fuckin serious? UMMM... As others have said, it's obviously

DON'T THESE talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?

DAR!
hey hey hey
unnecessary harshness

I KNOW it's "don't these" but until looking at the forum, I couldn't figure out why it sounded like DONKEYS TALKING (and the coincidence between this and Maynard's myspace blog was funny enough to post... for me at least)

so, no, I'm not fucking serious

bellamadia

06-14-2006, 08:12 AM

hey hey hey
unnecessary harshness

I KNOW it's "don't these" but until looking at the forum, I couldn't figure out why it sounded like DONKEYS TALKING (and the coincidence between this and Maynard's myspace blog was funny enough to post... for me at least)

so, no, I'm not fucking serious

Ok ok sorry for the harshness, sometimes I get so riled up. Aside from the "f" word it wasn't all that harsh.

I didn't figure you were serious because from your other posts you seem pretty intelligent.... but you shouldn't be filling some of the weak and impressionable minds with this garbage. They'll take it seriously and run with it to some other thread where they'll argue with some guy for 3 pages about the deep meaning of Donkeys talking monkeys. And that's just scary.

mike tyson

06-14-2006, 02:21 PM

I hear "cutting my love right in two".

slicknickshady

06-14-2006, 02:25 PM

I hear "cutting my love right in two".

I hear "cutting our love right in two"

Pretty close.

Happyfunball

06-14-2006, 02:33 PM

I just hear "cutting it all right in two". For some reason this part of the song doesn't seem that important for me to be nailed down though. Maybe because most all of the suggestions seem to fit well enough within the song's lyrics that it's not much of a big deal.

swampyfool

06-14-2006, 03:04 PM

I hear "cutting my love right in two".
Ditto.

SunBurN

06-14-2006, 03:51 PM

Ditto.

Nope, I don't hear that at all. I've listened for love and I can't hear it. I think he's saying now "cut and divide it all right in two" I think he's singing that part kind of fast "cut and divide" and the "l" sound we hear is the sound of "all".

smeefsmeef

06-14-2006, 06:30 PM

Nope, I don't hear that at all. I've listened for love and I can't hear it. I think he's saying now "cut and divide it all right in two" I think he's singing that part kind of fast "cut and divide" and the "l" sound we hear is the sound of "all".

Xerox

(a stronger agreement than ditto)

WeMoveInPeriods

06-16-2006, 08:21 AM

i hear from the very first listen and still do, "cut my whole right in two"

Caduceus11

06-16-2006, 08:21 AM

Dang, I have the live in dallas and they didn't do this song...

neognosis

06-16-2006, 08:49 AM

You can hear that tough part pretty clear on the 6/6/06 recording:

Fight 'til they die
Over sun, over sky
They fight 'til they die
Over ground, over air
They fight 'til they die
? Over ?, over love/blood ? <---hard to hear
They fight 'til they die
Over what? For the/our rising*

*He definitely says "rising" in that last line. It's pretty clear on most live recordings.

And this is based on the show in Germany, not the album version. My recommendation is to just go with whatever you feel like singing at the time, since that's obviously what Maynard does.

SunBurN

06-16-2006, 09:10 AM

Dang, I have the live in dallas and they didn't do this song...

GEt the Toronto live version.

slicknickshady

06-16-2006, 09:47 AM

Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused.

Don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to divide it
Right in two

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason,
And this is what they choose?

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade
And where there's one they're bound to divide it
Right in two

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club,
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability,
To lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here.

Cutting our love right in two
Cutting our love right in two
Cutting our love right in two
Cutting our love right in two

Fight..over clouds, over wind, over sky
Fight over your lie, over blood, over anything
Fight over love, over sun, over nothing
Fight till they die,
for their ending,

Angels on the sideline again,
Mixing love with patience and reason.
Angels on the sideline again,
Wondering where this tug of war will end.

Cutting our love right in two
Cutting our love right in two
Cutting our love right in two
right in two

right in two

Terry21

06-16-2006, 10:25 AM

Gotta divide it all right in two.

SunBurN

06-16-2006, 10:55 AM

WeMoveInPeriods

06-16-2006, 11:41 AM

SunBurN

06-16-2006, 12:11 PM

Cut my whole right in two...sounds like it/makes sense/relates to the idea (geometrically) of wholeness/unity and division and is a simplistic yet effective metaphor. cut love? doesn't really make sense. cut and divide? kinda redudant. cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort.

I was thinking cut and divide was redundant too at first, but then I started thinking and when you cut something, that doesn't necessarily divide it. In most cases, if gravity doesn't pull the 2 halves away like say if you're were cutting an apple, the two halves would fall away from each other but if you're cutting say a loaf of bread into two halves, you'd have to physically move them apart to "divide them". So "cut and divide it all" can work logically.

WeMoveInPeriods

06-16-2006, 12:42 PM

I was thinking cut and divide was redundant too at first, but then I started thinking and when you cut something, that doesn't necessarily divide it. In most cases, if gravity doesn't pull the 2 halves away like say if you're were cutting an apple, the two halves would fall away from each other but if you're cutting say a loaf of bread into two halves, you'd have to physically move them apart to "divide them". So "cut and divide it all" can work logically.

the end result is "right in two" so i infer whatever came before was one. i picture the division symbol "/" as a knife. knives cut things. the end result is two separate entities (1/2=.5 if and only if 2*.5=1 if and only if 1/.5=2) i don't think it matters if now the loves of bread are a nanometer apart or 3 lightyears apart. Now if we move on to Fig Newtons it gets dicey cuz you'll get, 'cut my fig newton right in two' 'put my fig newton right back to one' and so on and so...they are free fat free...

SunBurN

06-16-2006, 01:21 PM

Mr.Rubberburner

06-16-2006, 01:27 PM

how bout "live the night in heaven" instead of "lift an eye to heaven". I'm sure it's already been said...so sorry in advance.

SunBurN

06-16-2006, 01:52 PM

how bout "live the night in heaven" instead of "lift an eye to heaven". I'm sure it's already been said...so sorry in advance.

Ok, lets look at that.

repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to
live tonight in heaven conscious of his fleeting time here...

First off, why just "tonight"? if we didn't "squander" that chance, how many of us has the ability to "live one night in heaven"? And if it's a metaphore for something else, what ability is it that we're squandering? Since this song is from the angel's point of view, why would they be questioning why we squander just a night in heaven? That doesn't make much sense in the context of the song.

The angels love and fear their maker "The Father" and they're credulous at the fact that we humans even though we know better and that our time is short here (conscious of his fleeting time here), we still don't "lift an eye to heaven" which could mean pray to god, follow his laws or even acknowlege his existance to show some form of reverence to him so that when we die, we go to heaven to be with him.

So in that context, doesn't "lift an eye to heaven" make more sense?

WeMoveInPeriods

06-16-2006, 01:58 PM

the end result is "right in two" so i infer whatever came before was one. i picture the division symbol "/" as a knife. knives cut things. the end result is two separate entities (1/2=.5 if and only if 2*.5=1 if and only if 1/.5=2) i don't think it matters if now the loves of bread are a nanometer apart or 3 lightyears apart. Now if we move on to Fig Newtons it gets dicey cuz you'll get, 'cut my fig newton right in two' 'put my fig newton right back to one' and so on and so...they are free fat free...

Okay, I'm gettin carried away with myself. All that crap I used about 1/2=.5 was just arbitrary. I just assumed the "2" were equal. I could've easily split the pie like .25 and .75, where there are two separate pieces but the combination of the two is one............................................... .................................................. ..................
But to be serious for a second, I was just in the middle of baking an apple newton loaf of bread (with all the experimentation going on) when God called me up on my cell phone. I couldn't get there in, so he left a message...he told me everything. I don't have proof of this cuz when I tried to save God's number my phone blew up....I shouldn't egg people on. I really could've used them in my apple newton bread. Well, I gotta go. It's calling me (calling me) it's calling me (calling me)...the bread that is, not the phone. I still have to buy a new one.

* i'm not maynard, so i don't really know...just having fun....

'cut my whole right in two' forever!

thesgman

06-17-2006, 12:42 PM

I've watched "Right in Two" lyrics change from "cutting our love right in two" to "cutting it all right in two" to "cut and divide right in two" (wtf?) . . . and I don't hear any of it.

Does anyone else hear "cut like an '?' right in two"?

Q'ayin

06-17-2006, 01:08 PM

I happened to see this right when it popped up while listening to the song, and I don't hear any sounds or interval to allow for another word in the place of your question mark when I stretch to hear the other words you've suggested as though those were the lyrics.

Neither at 3:37+ nor 7:37+.

There's a different section devoted to "What's he saying?" parallel to the sections for each of the new songs, that is, at the top of the same list.

evfain

06-17-2006, 01:15 PM

I'd like to throw in my two cents with the chourus. I've listened to the end part a few times now and I can't for the life of me here "divide" anywhere. Personally, I'm hearing "cuting it all right in two." Now, phonetically, when Maynard hits the pause between "it" and "all" he rolls on it a bit... so sonically, he's cutting the vocals in two. This would fit thematically at least. Too many adverbs in my description up there but I hope that paints the picture a little.

As for the "fight over" section, I'm still having trouble with that, especially the end.

Terry21

06-17-2006, 02:01 PM

Listen clearly again, I think he says "gotta divide it all right in two".

No_Quarter1121

06-17-2006, 10:07 PM

at the "Cut it all right in two" part I swear I hear somthing in between "it" and "all". To me it sounds like he is saying "right" but it doesn't make sense.

reordian

06-18-2006, 08:00 AM

[They]
Fight till they die
Over earth
Over sky
They fight and collide
Over ground
Over air
They lie over love
Over sin
Over blood
They fight till they die
Over what?
For the rising

The last three lines might not be spot on. Actually, I think we can do better than this on the last three ones. Anyone?

Shadowsoftenedarmor

06-18-2006, 08:26 AM

Before ever reading any online lyrics (which prompted me to these forums) I was convinced that the nearly final line was "Wondering when this talk of war will end."

Now after reading the lyrics here, I can hear both, common for a lot of Maynard's lyrics.

Simply because of the references to talking monkeys prior in the song, I think this could be a valid interpretation...but am I way off base here?

J Stebbins

06-18-2006, 08:28 AM

I think it sounds more like Tug, it would make more sense along the lines of war, you know? The angels are helpless on the sidelines, watching to two opposing sides go against eachother. But that's just me =)

STORMCROW1031

06-18-2006, 08:32 AM

You could very well be right. Although I heard "tug of war"... I think, perhaps, the act of engaging in a game of tug of war is more potent image for what it is we humans do amongst ourselves. Talk of war is a more passive phrase, but that would, also mock our tendency to be spectators and braggarts - and even if we aren't actively engaged in war, we're ready to talk about it, plan it, think about... always ready....for a good fight!

soph

06-18-2006, 08:47 AM

swampyfool

06-18-2006, 08:51 AM

at the "Cut it all right in two" part I swear I hear somthing in between "it" and "all". To me it sounds like he is saying "right" but it doesn't make sense.
The "right" sound that you hear is actually "my." "All" is "love." "Cut it," is "Cutting."

"Cutting my love right in two"
(Lamented in the distorted voice of the father)

Just my opinion.

swampyfool

06-18-2006, 08:52 AM

There's a different section devoted to "What's he saying?" parallel to the sections for each of the new songs, that is, at the top of the same list.
And that's where you posted this . . .

reordian

06-18-2006, 09:07 AM

The "right" sound that you hear is actually "my." "All" is "love." "Cut it," is "Cutting."

"Cutting my love right in two"
(Lamented in the distorted voice of the father)

Just my opinion.

You kiddin, right?

It's

cut and divide it all right in two

or

cutting dividing all right in two

both work, it's either the one or the other. Nothing else.

swampyfool

06-18-2006, 09:22 AM

You kiddin, right?

It's

cut and divide it all right in two

or

cutting dividing all right in two

both work, it's either the one or the other. Nothing else.
There are too many words in your suggestions. With all of the distortion on the voice, I really think that if Maynard tried to cram all of that into the allotted time, it would end up sounding a lot more jumbled than it already does. Really, I think that the vocal effects mandate simplicity.

nighthawk

06-18-2006, 09:34 AM

You kiddin, right?

It's

cut and divide it all right in two

or

cutting dividing all right in two

both work, it's either the one or the other. Nothing else.

For me it's cutting light and all right in two or something like that, but i can't hear the "divide" part in it.

swampyfool

06-18-2006, 09:44 AM

Q'ayin

06-18-2006, 12:26 PM

Non-carnate messengers, on the sidelines by the nature of their form.

Better yet, anyone who declines to enter a given melee is by default left on the side-lines, what kind of messenger (read: angel) enters a melee?

Does anyone really have a strong feeling that this lament peaks so near to mentions of simple talk, of war?

Typical

06-18-2006, 06:25 PM

hellenkellerkarate

06-18-2006, 08:34 PM

i'm pretty sure he's saying "bananas and blow"

swampyfool

06-19-2006, 11:58 AM

i'm pretty sure he's saying "bananas and blow"
No way, it's totally "Puerto Rican Power!"

pink_rose

06-19-2006, 04:57 PM

I'm not sure if this has come up or not, but could it be "cuttin all i know right in two". He kinda joins the words together.. so its something like "cuttin 'll-I know right in two". It sorta makes sense to me within the context of the song.

And speaking of lyrics, does Tool plan to release the official lyrics ever?

Ranger10000

06-19-2006, 11:18 PM

Theyre wondering when this tug of war will end

I wish they would cut the lyrics right in two and post half now and half later.

reordian

06-20-2006, 02:49 AM

There are too many words in your suggestions. With all of the distortion on the voice, I really think that if Maynard tried to cram all of that into the allotted time, it would end up sounding a lot more jumbled than it already does. Really, I think that the vocal effects mandate simplicity.

Listen closely. It sounds mumbled sort of like "kinda divide it all right in two". That should make the "divide" come out for you.

Once you hear the "divide it all right in two", you can start figuring out what comes before that.

Granted, it's all mumbled and distorted, but logically, it can be only "cut and" or "cutting".

Give it a serious listen.

reordian

06-20-2006, 02:50 AM

For me it's cutting light and all right in two or something like that, but i can't hear the "divide" part in it.

Ditto.
Listen closely. It sounds mumbled sort of like "kinda divide it all right in two". That should make the "divide" come out for you.

Once you hear the "divide it all right in two", you can start figuring out what comes before that.

Granted, it's all mumbled and distorted, but logically, it can be only "cut and" or "cutting".

Give it a serious listen.

dullae

06-20-2006, 05:51 AM

all i can hear in the chorus is "divide it all right in two".
it's like: dai -- vai -- d it - ol ... one syllable between "-".

and the "fight over this, over that..." part,
i think that adam (/guitar) is making that "ahhh" sound,
as the begining of the introduction to the coming madness!

blafuckbla

06-20-2006, 08:00 AM

i hear 'cut and lie it all right in two' alright.

reordian

06-20-2006, 09:56 AM

i hear 'cut and lie it all right in two' alright.

Well then more power to ya!

Terry21

06-20-2006, 10:53 AM

It's actually "Right in two right in two". Lol.

Kadelic

06-20-2006, 05:37 PM

The whole debate on the lyrics of the chorus is simply resolved.

There are 2 or more vocal tracks layered, each with subtle variation.

Hence, one hears signiatures of one cosonant or another, this

syllabic rythm or that, especialy if one has been suugested to hear so.

hellenkellerkarate

06-20-2006, 05:47 PM

he repeats the phrase several times, and the only thing it ALWAYS sounds like to me is "cutting Arlo right in to," so, the question now is, who's Arlo?

][ncognito

06-21-2006, 12:13 PM

Angels on the sideline
Puzzled and amused
Why did father give these humans free will
Now they're all confused

Don't these talking monkeys know that Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly ol' monkeys wonders when you're bound to divide it..Right in two

Angels on the sideline
baffled and confused
father blessed them all with reason
and this is what they choose

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground
silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade
and brothers wander bound to divide it

right in two

right in two

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground
silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club
and beat their brother..down

how they survive so misguided is a mystery..here
repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability
to lift an eye to heaven conscious of his fleeting time here

Cut and divide it all right in two x4

Fight over....etc (way too many guess on this part)

Angels on the sideline again
been too long with patience and reason
angels on the sideline again
wondering when this tug of war will end

cut and divide it all right in two x3
right in two

right in two

This is interesting, I definitely thought I heard "brothers" the second time around.

The first one i'm still torn between what you have that and "where there's one they're bound to divide it" Both makes sense in context with the song. Personally after listening with vocals increased and tempo slowed, it sounds more like 'where there's one'.

Second verse I think brothers wander is correct.

AS many have said, I'm fairly certain it's "cut and divide it all" Maynard barely (if not at all) annunciates the D in divide. The clearest example is the very last time he says it at the end. Most of the song sounds like "Cut 'n 'ivide it all" My guess is because the N and D are adjacent and at the speed he sings the two words the d sorta gets lost. Kinda like "theyallsoundlike peanuts parents" in Rosetta Stoned.

gr8andy

06-21-2006, 10:39 PM

he repeats the phrase several times, and the only thing it ALWAYS sounds like to me is "cutting Arlo right in to," so, the question now is, who's Arlo?

while somewhat ridiculous, this comes closest to what i am hearing.

Its: Cut it a-long, right in two

fyre_faery

06-22-2006, 11:14 AM

I have listened to this song 842,326 times and I think he is saying either "gotta divide it all right in two" or "try to divide it all right in two". But what do I know? I'm just a silly monkey after all.

Intolerance

06-22-2006, 09:23 PM

In regards to the debate over the chorus, I really think he's just saying, "Cut it all right in two," but drawing out the "cut" and varying pitch: "Cuh-uht it all. . ." all the way to "KAY-AYT it all. . . " right at the end. I don't hear an "ing" in there anywhere, and I definitely don't hear any "divide" during those parts.

shotty091

06-23-2006, 02:18 AM

So far here is everything that I can make out. Let me know if I come up short. Sleep eludes me so I wouldn't be surprised if I forgot something.

Angels on the sideline,
Puzzled and amused.
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they’re all confused.

Don’t these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?
Playing in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Well there’s one who's bound to divide it
Right in two

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason.
And this is what they choose.
Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over a piece of other ground.

Silly monkeys given thumbs,
They forge a blade,
And then theres one bound to divide it,
Right in two.
Right in two.

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant dismal creature who would squander
The ability live, to die, and have a conscience
Brothers live and die here

Cut it all right in two (x4)

Fight over the clouds, over wind, over sky
Fight over life, over blood, over prayer, over head and light
Fight over love, over sun, over another
Fight...

Angels on the sideline again
Been so long with patience and reason
Angels on the sideline again
Wondering when this tug of war will end

Cut it all right in two (x3)
Right in two (x2)

Terry21

06-23-2006, 02:43 PM

"Cutting our halo right in two"

"Cutting my black kettle right in two".

johnnydex

06-23-2006, 09:46 PM

To me it sounds like either cut and divide it all right in two, or gotta divide it all right in two, and I'm leaning more toward the latter (it seems to be one of the two, though, after listening to live/studio versions)

I totally agree. I believe it to be Cut and divide it all right in two. But I can see where you are coming from with the "gotta". Either way he definitely
slurs the entire line making it difficult to discern. I think its most clear the last time he says it.

Gethsemane

06-24-2006, 09:06 AM

Angels on the sideline
Puzzled and amused
Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused

Don’t these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?
Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Well there’s one who's bound to divide it
Right in two

Angels on the sideline
Baffled and confused
Father blessed them all with reason
And this is what they choose.

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys given thumbs,
They forge a blade,
And where there's one they're
Bound to divide it
Right in two.
Right in two.

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club
And beat their brother down.

How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
***
Repugnant is a creature who would squander
The ability to lift and eye to heaven
Conscious of its fleeting time here.

(This makes sense as Maynard paints these angels as ones who look down in disgust at us humans since none of us spend our short amount of time here doing good and enjoying what God gave us.)
***

Cut it all
Right in two.

***
Fight over the clouds, over wind, over sky
Fight over life, over blood, over prayer, over head and light
Fight over love, over sun, over another
Fight till they die, over (something), over reason

(I doubt anyone will truly figure this part out
until Maynard comes along and makes a post.)
***

Angels on the sideline again
Been so long with patience and reason
Angels on the sideline again
Wondering when this tug of war will end

Cut it all
Right in two

I don't agree with "Cut and divide it all." I tried as hard as I could to hear "divide in there somewhere and I just can't do it, however I do believe there is another word in there somewhere.

Gethsemane

06-24-2006, 11:11 AM

Also, "tug-of-war" implies that there is a game of sorts in progress, and if the Angels are "wondering where this tug-of-war will end," that would seem to explain why they are "on the sidline." Why are they "on the sidline, again," though? Is this a reference to the humans killed in the flood that propelled Noah into fame, implying that the Angels were relegated to the sidelines in their tugs-of-war? If so, I guess it fits with the Christian imagery . . .

Basically the tug of war represents human existence as we are now. Constantly fighting over something. The angels are on the sideline because they cannot act. God did not give them free will and they cannot interfere with the lives of men.(Depending on what your religion believes anyway) I'm guessing they are "on the sideline again" has to do with the war in Iraq. It's the most recent "tug of war" if you will, that's happened.

For all you ladies out there I use the word "men" only in a general sense.

A good example would be the Gaza Strip. Israel and Palestine have been fighting over that piece of ground for a long time. Hence, tug of war.

tooltomus

06-24-2006, 12:33 PM

From the very first time I heard it I thought it was "cutting it all right in two"
Too many people are over-listening to it. Not "divide".

wearethestories

06-25-2006, 05:38 PM

Basically the tug of war represents human existence as we are now. Constantly fighting over something. The angels are on the sideline because they cannot act. God did not give them free will and they cannot interfere with the lives of men.(Depending on what your religion believes anyway) I'm guessing they are "on the sideline again" has to do with the war in Iraq. It's the most recent "tug of war" if you will, that's happened.

For all you ladies out there I use the word "men" only in a general sense.

A good example would be the Gaza Strip. Israel and Palestine have been fighting over that piece of ground for a long time. Hence, tug of war.
like the thought, but I'd say IF it concerns something "more recent", it would simply be the region (EDEN, according to biblical texts is around the Mesopotamian area/aka present day Iran?)...

or, if it's political, I think it's probably the tug of war over Israel/Palestine like you said above

Andorion

06-26-2006, 02:54 AM

wearethestories

06-26-2006, 11:31 AM

I'm hearing "where there's one" in every single place that line's repeated, but people keep posting stuff like "wonders when" and "brothers wander" and "Well there’s one" etc...

Am I the only one hearing "where there's one" every single time? I know we'd like fancy tricky lyrics in all places but sometimes repetition happens.
i get the same impression...

only thing that makes sense given the other three things you posted from others as "possible" lyrics

n_run

06-27-2006, 10:45 PM

no way it's "cut and divide it all right in two". I don't hear the two d's.

My best guess is:
"Kill it all right in two"

But that doesn't seem to make sense.

Inner_Eulogy

06-29-2006, 10:00 AM

I'm hearing "where there's one" in every single place that line's repeated, but people keep posting stuff like "wonders when" and "brothers wander" and "Well there’s one" etc...

Am I the only one hearing "where there's one" every single time? I know we'd like fancy tricky lyrics in all places but sometimes repetition happens.

I agree, it's definately "where there's one they're bound to divide it, right in two"

and I DO BELIEVE I know what the double sound is in "cut it all right in two da da da" People are coming up with all these crazy words that just simply are not there. I hear "Cuttin' our love right in two"...think of that and listen again.

Inner_Eulogy

06-29-2006, 10:02 AM

at the "Cut it all right in two" part I swear I hear somthing in between "it" and "all". To me it sounds like he is saying "right" but it doesn't make sense.

"Cuttin' our love..right in two"

SunBurN

06-29-2006, 10:30 AM

"Cuttin' our love..right in two"

where do you hear "our love"???

NOPE, not buying that at all! I've listened for "cutting our love" with an open mind but I just don't see it nor does the word "love" flow with the theme of the song. Where in the song does it talk about "cutting our love"?? I don't think out of the blue for the chorus he'd just start talking about cutting love. I think any other option for lyrics of this part is more likely as in:

Cut it all right in two
Cut and divide it all...
Cut it right all right in two (even though I think this one is also highly unlikely).

I think of all of the options, the one I most strongly think it could be is CUUUTaNDivideitall right in two with the CUTNDIVDE part being sung almost as if it was one word and all slurring together...

I don't hear an "R" sound as in our at all...nor do I hear a word or sound long enough or pronouncable enough to be "love" so I'm ruling that one out.

swampyfool

06-29-2006, 11:18 AM

where do you hear "our love"???

NOPE, not buying that at all! I've listened for "cutting our love" with an open mind but I just don't see it nor does the word "love" flow with the theme of the song. Where in the song does it talk about "cutting our love"?? I don't think out of the blue for the chorus he'd just start talking about cutting love. I think any other option for lyrics of this part is more likely as in:

Cut it all right in two
Cut and divide it all...
Cut it right all right in two (even though I think this one is also highly unlikely).

I think of all of the options, the one I most strongly think it could be is CUUUTaNDivideitall right in two with the CUTNDIVDE part being sung almost as if it was one word and all slurring together...

I don't hear an "R" sound as in our at all...nor do I hear a word or sound long enough or pronouncable enough to be "love" so I'm ruling that one out.
Well, I hear "Cutting my love right in two." First I'll explain my phoenetics. Where you hear "Cut and . . ." I hear "Cutting . . ." That comparison of our interpretations is so sonically similar that it's not even worth debating. However, where you hear "divide it all . . ." I hear "my love . . ." I really think that the enunciation of four syllables that you hear is attributable to the dissonent beats created by the combination of the mass of effects that are placed on Maynard's vocals and the rising volume of the guitars. It sounds to me like flangers of differing frequency are applied to both vocals and guitar at this point, and a stereo delay to the vocals; and the result is an obscured chorus (I believe that this affectation is intentional, and I will explain that in the following paragraphs). Bottom line, I really think that if Maynard were packing all of those syllables underneath that sonic distortion, the result would sound more jumbled than it already does.

Now, to answer your challenge to the meaning . . . Regardless of our diverse interpretations of this song, I think that we can all agree that Maynard uses Christian (and some would specify, Catholic) imagery to illustrate the story. Part of the dogma from which this imagery springs, is that all of the material elements that make up the "real world" are manifestations of God's love. So, if the line that has sparked this controversy is spoken from the perspective of the "father [who] blessed [us] all with reason," (as I believe it to be) then "My love" and "it all" would be congruous notions.

And now let us continue with the perspective from which this line is delivered. As I have stated before, it seems to me that Tool uses its mastery of sonic effects to create that mass of distortion which obscures the delivery of this line intentionally. The purpose of this lyrical obfuscation is to show that it is a lament of the voice of all creation- of the father; a voice that is omnipresent, yet difficult to understand for humans who have moved so far from the divinity extant within ourselves. By yielding to trends of division and distraction, we have deprived oursleves of "God's" message as we continue to be "bound to divide it right in two." This song is a reflection of the confusion experienced by the angels as they watch the humans who insist upon destroying the father's love rather than enjoying its plentiful gift; punctuated by the tears of the father.

"Cutting my love, right in two."

SunBurN

06-29-2006, 12:24 PM

Well, I hear "Cutting my love right in two." First I'll explain my phoenetics. Where you hear "Cut and . . ." I hear "Cutting . . ." That comparison of our interpretations is so sonically similar that it's not even worth debating. However, where you hear "divide it all . . ." I hear "my love . . ." I really think that the enunciation of four syllables that you hear is attributable to the dissonent beats created by the combination of the mass of effects that are placed on Maynard's vocals and the rising volume of the guitars. It sounds to me like flangers of differing frequency are applied to both vocals and guitar at this point, and a stereo delay to the vocals; and the result is an obscured chorus (I believe that this affectation is intentional, and I will explain that in the following paragraphs). Bottom line, I really think that if Maynard were packing all of those syllables underneath that sonic distortion, the result would sound more jumbled than it already does.

Now, to answer your challenge to the meaning . . . Regardless of our diverse interpretations of this song, I think that we can all agree that Maynard uses Christian (and some would specify, Catholic) imagery to illustrate the story. Part of the dogma from which this imagery springs, is that all of the material elements that make up the "real world" are manifestations of God's love. So, if the line that has sparked this controversy is spoken from the perspective of the "father [who] blessed [us] all with reason," (as I believe it to be) then "My love" and "it all" would be congruous notions.

And now let us continue with the perspective from which this line is delivered. As I have stated before, it seems to me that Tool uses its mastery of sonic effects to create that mass of distortion which obscures the delivery of this line intentionally. The purpose of this lyrical obfuscation is to show that it is a lament of the voice of all creation- of the father; a voice that is omnipresent, yet difficult to understand for humans who have moved so far from the divinity extant within ourselves. By yielding to trends of division and distraction, we have deprived oursleves of "God's" message as we continue to be "bound to divide it right in two." This song is a reflection of the confusion experienced by the angels as they watch the humans who insist upon destroying the father's love rather than enjoying its plentiful gift; punctuated by the tears of the father.

"Cutting my love, right in two."

Ok, you make a very impressive argument and one that I can agree with for the most part. And because of that, I'll leave my mind open to the possiblilty of it being Cutting our love... but I also think that Cut and divide it all right in two also has merit and in my mind, continues the flow of the song.

Albiet depending on how you look at it, "Cut and divide" could be a bit redundant.

swampyfool

06-29-2006, 12:33 PM

Ok, you make a very impressive argument and one that I can agree with for the most part. And because of that, I'll leave my mind open to the possiblilty of it being Cutting our love... but I also think that Cut and divide it all right in two also has merit and in my mind, continues the flow of the song.

Albiet depending on how you look at it, "Cut and divide" could be a bit redundant.
And I'll keep my mind open to yours. High five, SunBurN! That's showing 'em how to debate diplomatically.

Terry21

06-29-2006, 01:12 PM

Are you serious with the "love" thing Success? Listen to the damn song. "Gotta divide it all right in two". Without being thoughtless. I would bet all my money on it. It's about sharing.

n_run

06-29-2006, 02:30 PM

Are you serious with the "love" thing Success? Listen to the damn song. "Gotta divide it all right in two". Without being thoughtless. I would bet all my money on it. It's about sharing.

I don't hear "love" but, "Gotta divide it all" is too long.

Terry21

06-29-2006, 03:36 PM

I don't hear "love" but, "Gotta divide it all" is too long.

Dude! Listen CLOSER! I'm tired of this. I'm really not 100% sure on the gotta, because the G is spoken so hard, but listen to it, you will really hear it.

Gotta divide it all right in two.

He's an American, his speech is terrible.

sonnyboy11

06-29-2006, 06:45 PM

I haven't really posted much (if at all) in these lyrics threads but I will on this one.

It's "cut and divide it all right in two".

aircrow

06-29-2006, 08:50 PM

OK, forgive me if anyone has tossed this one out there, but I'm too lazy to read all these.

How about:
"Angels on the sideline again
PITCHING love and patience and reason"

That's what I hear, and it makes sense, if you think about "pitching" in the sense of a sales pitch.

Terry21

06-30-2006, 12:42 AM

Not trying to attack you here dude, but why changing the "been so long"?. It fits perfect lyrically, it's what people said first and it sounds exactly like that. I heard it on a good stereo and had no doubt. And there is no "love" in this song.

The Unchosen

06-30-2006, 03:04 AM

i vote again for both

"lift an eye to heaven"

and

"gotta divide it all right in two"

im hearing a distinct "g" noise not a "c" or "k" in that line.

I originally was convinced the lyrics were "cut it right all right in two", before I'd even seen this thread. However, there is maybe one piece of evidence that works in favor of your claim:

1) Earlier in the song, MJK uses the lyrics "...bound to divide it right in two" twice, so this suggests that he might keep the same line for the chorus "... divide it all right in two" to create consistency and motif, instead of dropping the "divide" in favor of "cut it right all".

As for the "Gotta" part, the [g] could easily be a [k], so that's up for grabs. both phonemes have harsh, aspirated qualities. The first [d] in divide is barely pronounced, if at all. it assimilates with the palatal flap of the "gotta" so it pretty much goes unannounced. the second [d] in divide is also a palatal flap. it's an allophone for t and d which means both letters can both sound like the palatal flap, so we can't tell which letter it is, a t or d, thus "right" or "divide".

The syllables of these two lyric choices are very similar as some have pointed out. It's funny how close-minded, self-centered, and self-righteous us TOOL fans come off as being. I say we wait until Maynard releases his lyrics before we claim one thing is "correct". One of the themes in the lyrics of this album is focused on the phonetics of the words. Look at the "questionable" lyrics on the lyrics page, where there are at least two choices. There are usually two completely viable options that sound almost exactly the same but are comprised of entirely different words and meanings. It's like poetry, it's up to the individual listening to draw his/her own meaning from the words. If you want the line to read, "cutting my love right in two" for some reason, then that's what it should mean to you. Let's open our minds.

eli

06-30-2006, 09:04 AM

Excerpt:
Originally Posted by: thepogue

...
My only dispute on the lyrics is the second line... it currently says:
"Puzzled and amused"
My suggestion is :
"Puzzled, unamused"
After listening to this repeatedly i cant really say for sure, but to me unamused seems to fit better with the tone of the song... anyone else agree?

I hear it and agree. Nothing amusing about it, is there?

I agree with this completely, I don't think they are finding any pleasure in what they are witnessing.

Inner_Eulogy

06-30-2006, 09:25 AM

SunBurN

06-30-2006, 10:11 AM

You may or may not be right but, I agree with SuccesfullyPriedOpen and for arguments sake. "Cuttin' our/(my) love right in two" makes PERFECT sense. Cutting our brotherly love for one another as a human race. The human race has it so good but we all choose to fuck it up by fighting over stupid shit and taking everything for granted.

Like I said after reading his very convincing and well written argument, I'm leaving my mind open to that possibility and the reasoning behind it.

Terry21

07-01-2006, 03:59 AM

Maybe it's "I love you girl". Duh. It has got nothing to to with frickin love.

ween69

07-03-2006, 08:11 AM

This song fucking makes me cry like a bitch.

Quantum, your avatar and my avatar should make sweet love

Kyndig

07-03-2006, 09:54 AM

I agree with the "Cut and divide it all right in two".

If you listen, its actually all pronounced as one, kinda like "cutanddivideit all right in two" very quickly, if you listen you can really hear the "it" right at the end of it. I'd say this is exactly what he's really saying.

And it all fits with the "divide" references throughout the song.

I hear this too, but without the "and" between cut and divide. "Cut-Divide it all right in two"

-Kyndig

Kyndig

07-03-2006, 09:57 AM

Angels on the sideline again,
Been so long [Been too long or Bent along] with patience and reason.
Angels on the sideline again,
Wondering where this tug of war will end.

Apologies if someone in this thread already said this

I hear "Benched along with patience and reason"
It fits with the sport metaphor of "angels on the sideline again"

Kyndig

Mr.Rubberburner

07-04-2006, 05:47 AM

you're a geek....you think you're smart......but you're really not : )Ok, lets look at that.

repugnant is a creature who would squander the ability to
live tonight in heaven conscious of his fleeting time here...

First off, why just "tonight"? if we didn't "squander" that chance, how many of us has the ability to "live one night in heaven"? And if it's a metaphore for something else, what ability is it that we're squandering? Since this song is from the angel's point of view, why would they be questioning why we squander just a night in heaven? That doesn't make much sense in the context of the song.

The angels love and fear their maker "The Father" and they're credulous at the fact that we humans even though we know better and that our time is short here (conscious of his fleeting time here), we still don't "lift an eye to heaven" which could mean pray to god, follow his laws or even acknowlege his existance to show some form of reverence to him so that when we die, we go to heaven to be with him.

So in that context, doesn't "lift an eye to heaven" make more sense?

Ranger10000

07-04-2006, 07:12 AM

Well i always thought "Lift an eye to heaven" meant to lift a fist to heaven and curse heaven. Which would make perfect sense. They are cursing heaven, conscience that they only have so much time on this earth before they die. So i have always heard "Lift an eye to heaven."

oh and i also hear
Cut-all is sung quickly, almost one word

"Cut all i know ..right in two"
"Cut all i love .. right in two"
which repeats itself

"try to divide love" at 7:45 ... doesnt make sense to me, since nothing was tried, it was accomplished. Sounds like mjk is shouting to God in the chorus.

also before the very first "cut all i know" at 3:37 you can hear a very softly spoken "he can" ... but that part is up for debate... but he says something there... listen closely

shutkski

07-04-2006, 09:36 AM

Peaceful Moments

07-04-2006, 12:54 PM

Post things about lyrics here. http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=47767

shutkski

07-04-2006, 01:43 PM

ah, thank you, and sorry 'bout this one...

MyShadow23

07-04-2006, 11:56 PM

Sorry to bother you, but I don't agree much with the chorus on right in two lyrics...
So far, you have

"[Cutting it all right in two
/ Cut it all right in two]
/ Cutting our love right in two]"

for options, but I guessed a few more that also make sense:

"Cutting my own, right in two"

and

"Cut it right all, right in two"

the last one repeats "right" for us to focus on the intention of it...I would like to read opinions about this... Plus, i'm sorry if this isn't the right place to put this kind of topic. Thanks.

So, having read most of that, i can't help but feel a little left out in hearing, at least in the last part after the "wondering when this tug-of-war will end", is this... wait for it...

"Cut the rope, right in two."

You know the tug-of-war rope, cut it...in two?? Pull the pin on the tug of war, give up the fight against each other??? Hmm?

Might be different earlier in the song.

ColdLogic

07-05-2006, 03:35 AM

fyre_faery

07-05-2006, 09:53 AM

I don't think the lyrics are "repugnant ia a creature who would squander the ability to live tonight in heaven" it doesn't really make sense because humans don't have the ability to live in heaven (especially for one night), so how can this non-existant ability be squandered? They do have the ability to lift they're eye to heaven even if it is to question, but most people don't look there (unless they are asking for something). I don't know...just thoughts.

fyre_faery

07-05-2006, 10:06 AM

What does everyone make of the irony in the angel conversation regarding free will and reason? Notice they say that we are confused in spite of our free will, and make poor choices despite our intelligence. Seems to me that free will should go with choices and confusion should go with reason. I really like that the irony of the song, even, is backwards and twisted.

People have the ability to use they're intelligence for good or evil and that is where free will gets messy. People, despite their intelligence, come into power by using that intelligence to benefit themselves, even if it means beating their brother down. Intelligence is a relative term. We (as humans) regard ourselves as more intelligent than monkeys, but monkeys have been able to live together with instinctual knowlege to preserve their species not themselves individually, while we continue to slaughter and rape and hate each other. I hope that made some kind of sense, if not I appologize for the wasted time anyone spent reading this.

Caduceus11

07-05-2006, 11:49 AM

so its "cutting my loaves right in two">?
...couldn't resist....heheheheh

parables in the world

07-05-2006, 07:06 PM

i hear

"cut it, divide it all right in two"

swampyfool

07-05-2006, 08:35 PM

so its "cutting my loaves right in two">?
...couldn't resist....heheheheh
<rimshot>

SunBurN

07-06-2006, 08:59 AM

you're a geek....you think you're smart......but you're really not : )

Ok Mr.Rubberneck, you got me back, feel better now? ;)

peolesdru

07-06-2006, 09:26 PM

Consider this:

"...over life over love, over SAND over MUD..."

seriously, give a listen - shouldn't have to say it all again....

Caduceus11

07-06-2006, 09:31 PM

People have the ability to use they're intelligence for good or evil and that is where free will gets messy. People, despite their intelligence, come into power by using that intelligence to benefit themselves, even if it means beating their brother down. Intelligence is a relative term. We (as humans) regard ourselves as more intelligent than monkeys, but monkeys have been able to live together with instinctual knowlege to preserve their species not themselves individually.....

I'm not in total disagreement with you here, but let's not sell ourselves short here. If monkeys were so "intelligent" then why are they now our subjects? They have their points, but they are completely at our mercy which makes them ours...in regards to Darwin's 'Survival of the Fittest' concept. We could wipe them ALL out just like we have many other species. Do NOT think for one moment that I mean to condone annihalation of a species, I'm just saying. People using their intelligence to benefit themselves is OUR way of remaining on top so as not to fall mercy to anyone else's decision about whether or not we survive.

The monkey's Maynard speaks of in this song are the monkey's whom are in charge. This song is a little bit about the criticism of the powers that be and a little bit about our own being monkeys whom let these people divide it all right in two. Its a little bit about how there's always division. As soon as the number of a group passes the quantity of 1, there will be division. ....there's so much more in this song, that's just a section of what I think....

tooltomus

07-07-2006, 04:12 PM

"Cut it right all right in two" sounds the most clear, but not any sense.
It is NOT "Cutting our love right in two" or "cut and divide it all right in two"
C'mon Maynard, help us all out here!

slicknickshady

07-07-2006, 04:16 PM

I still Hear "Cutting our love right in two"

Caduceus11

07-07-2006, 05:52 PM

Maynard doesn't want to give you the answers! He wants us to 'think for ourselves' here. Together we should be able to figure this out.

panocha21

07-07-2006, 07:26 PM

I still Hear "Cutting our love right in two"

I don't think that's it.

I think Maynard is playing with the words here. He's cutting the verse right in two so to speak.

"Cut it -- ut it all right in two."

He's known to do this. For Schism he did a lot of layered voices to simulate a divergence. This was the theme of the song, so it was clever of hime to layer voices in that song. He didn't do it to make the song sound better, and he didn't overuse it. It's a subtle touch that allows you to make a connection between the sounds and the themes of the song.

1350 Days

07-08-2006, 10:44 AM

I hear "Cutting it ALL right in two", but that's just me.

Almost near the end (during the solo), I hear "Fighting for all, killing for all, once and for all, right in two." I tried all the others and they don't fit. Meh...

peolesdru

07-08-2006, 12:55 PM

Seriously, if we can take a break from "cutting it all right in two" for just a moment - does anyone else hear "over sand, over mud"?

][ncognito

07-08-2006, 12:56 PM

I'm still adamant that it's "Cut and divide it all right in two" (although some parts do so like "gotta divide")

It's clearest to me on the last verse in which he says it, especially the last time when he yells it out. The problem some are having, IMO, is the fact that he kinda blends the end of cut, and, and the d in divide all together. My guess is mostly because to sing it at that speed, the 'T' 'N' and 'D' would all be difficult to annunciate fully, so the all kind of roll together. You can agree easily that with that lyric, the number of syllables match up, and based on that and the rest of my theory, I see it pretty easily as "cut and divide"

Ranger10000

07-08-2006, 01:38 PM

ok what time is over sand over mud... please start posting times

swampyfool

07-08-2006, 05:12 PM

Seriously, if we can take a break from "cutting it all right in two" for just a moment . . .
I agree. This is getting almost as bad as "Damn my/dim my/jam my/jam-bye/jamb bi/spam fight/bull-dyke/Al Roker Eyes." (Almost.) I think that our suggested versions of the obscured chorus share enough in the meaning department that at this point our back and forth on the specific phrasing has reduced this discussion to unelightening stagnation (which is not a jab at anyone- we're just rehashing some tired shit here, and the redundancies are just not enlightening). Yay Maynard; you've confounded us again . . .

Caduceus11

07-09-2006, 03:49 PM

I think the overlaying of different lyrics is what's going on here. When I get my sound edit programs back I will personally cut and divide it all right in two. Once you get that pesky music out of the way you can hear the words a little better. In any case, I agree with the previous post. Maynard is a very intelligent person...and like a lot of people of high-intellect, we like to fuck with people's minds. Its very amuzing. And Maynard, knowing his fan base does include some people who do not carry much above their shoulders, it would stand to reason that he would be fucking with us all.
But I agree, part of the flexibility of maynards word is that is it bendable into many shapes. Maybe he doesn't have an exact word for this section of the song. Maybe its just a sound (or 1 part each of two words). But we get the point don't we?> We all know what he's getting at. Maybe the point here is that maybe we should learn to break away from black and white thinking...maybe he wants us to just get the point, not a lyric chart>? What do you think>?

parables in the world

07-09-2006, 03:57 PM

Caduceus11

07-09-2006, 06:31 PM

YOu have a point there. It appears that most people can't understand without lyrics. Maybe we should just listen without worry of what he's saying, Like another instrument. This is how fans that don't understand english listen to tool. Why can't we just admit it?...sorry for this reference but its true. I admit it that i can't see certain songs without lyrics.
I see maynards lyrics as what he feels when he listened to the music. If i had an auidio software i'd cut out maynards lyrics and listen to just the music.

Have you been to a TOOL concert? Have you noticed what's different about the layout of the band that's different than that of most rock bands? Maynard is off to the side...one of the many things I admire about TOOL is that they are truly a BAND. And yes, maynard considers his voice and lyrics as an equal portion of the whole. That's very uncommon. I think part of why maynard does so few interviews and public appearances is because of his desire to remain the UN-frontman. He doesnt fit ANY of the molds we've been fed.
But yea, as soon as I have the time and equipment, I'll upload dissected tool to some place that I can share them....

swampyfool

07-09-2006, 06:57 PM

Have you been to a TOOL concert? Have you noticed what's different about the layout of the band that's different than that of most rock bands? Maynard is off to the side...one of the many things I admire about TOOL is that they are truly a BAND. And yes, maynard considers his voice and lyrics as an equal portion of the whole. That's very uncommon. I think part of why maynard does so few interviews and public appearances is because of his desire to remain the UN-frontman. He doesnt fit ANY of the molds we've been fed.
But yea, as soon as I have the time and equipment, I'll upload dissected tool to some place that I can share them....
Have you been to a King Crimson concert? Have you noticed what's different about the layout of the band that's different than that of most rock bands? Robert Fripp is off to the side, dressed in black, with no lights, completely swathed in darkness . . . Like father, like son . . .

Hush in Wonderland

07-09-2006, 10:06 PM

i think its:

"cut it, divide it all right in two"

if u listen really closely, u can hear Maynard saying "divide", and it makes sense doesnt it? it fits in with the "they're bound to divide it right in two" bit. lemme know what u think...

wearethestories

07-10-2006, 11:07 AM

Have you been to a King Crimson concert? Have you noticed what's different about the layout of the band that's different than that of most rock bands? Robert Fripp is off to the side, dressed in black, with no lights, completely swathed in darkness . . . Like father, like son . . .
lol.

Caduceus11

07-10-2006, 05:57 PM

2and46

07-10-2006, 06:57 PM

Have you been to a TOOL concert? Have you noticed what's different about the layout of the band that's different than that of most rock bands? Maynard is off to the side...one of the many things I admire about TOOL is that they are truly a BAND. And yes, maynard considers his voice and lyrics as an equal portion of the whole. That's very uncommon. I think part of why maynard does so few interviews and public appearances is because of his desire to remain the UN-frontman. He doesnt fit ANY of the molds we've been fed.
But yea, as soon as I have the time and equipment, I'll upload dissected tool to some place that I can share them....

You could make an argument that TOOL is the most important and influential rock band of our time. And what do they do? Stay in the shadows. Maynard is exactly what you say...the "UN-frontman". How many frontmen of such magnitude have ever done this? It's not an act, it's for the music. THEY CARE. They care about the art. And they DON'T CARE, about the ramifications of not being on magazine covers. Their attention to the art and not the individual seperates them from anyone in their genre. You'd be hard pressed to find a frontman who is as enigmatic as Maynard. A rarity my friends.

swampyfool

07-10-2006, 08:57 PM

Interesting yet, irrelevent to my point. My question is now, Can you quiet yourself where you couldn't before?
I'm not ripping you; your post just reminded me of King Crimson, much the same way that Tool reminds me of King Crimson (not carbon copies, yet variations on a theme). I think your point waas friigin' excellent, and I was just elaborating. The most profound musical acts of our time (and probably of any time) are the ones that realize they are greater than the sum of their parts.

Caduceus11

07-10-2006, 10:39 PM

You could make an argument that TOOL is the most important and influential rock band of our time. And what do they do? Stay in the shadows. Maynard is exactly what you say...the "UN-frontman". How many frontmen of such magnitude have ever done this? It's not an act, it's for the music. THEY CARE. They care about the art. And they DON'T CARE, about the ramifications of not being on magazine covers. Their attention to the art and not the individual seperates them from anyone in their genre. You'd be hard pressed to find a frontman who is as enigmatic as Maynard. A rarity my friends.

You would get no argument from me. Prior to my days with TOOL, I thought PinkFloyd was the most powerful and intelligent band ever. To me, TOOL has surpassed even them...And as far as my musical exposure, PinkFloyd is really the only band that comes close to TOOL....close relative to anything else I've listened to.

Caduceus11

07-10-2006, 10:57 PM

I'm not ripping you; your post just reminded me of King Crimson, much the same way that Tool reminds me of King Crimson (not carbon copies, yet variations on a theme). I think your point waas friigin' excellent, and I was just elaborating. The most profound musical acts of our time (and probably of any time) are the ones that realize they are greater than the sum of their parts.

Oh...sorry, it seems we've both misunderstood each other....I get misread ALL the time. I've gone and reread your post and realize it could be read differently...anyway, I had to go back and read the name of this thread to remember what we were supposed to be talking about....Right in Two.

Since you brought up profound, the first statement of this song that really grabbed me:
"Repugnant is the creature who would squander the ability
To lift and eye to heaven conscious, of his fleeting time here."

These lines really hit home with me...and I think maybe this is one of the statemens that spawned threads like: "Maynard the Catholic" that I've seen here at TOOLnavy. (As preposterous as that sounds, someone actually made a thread of that). Anyway, my point about these lines is this: While this may lead some to believe that there are religious aspects to this disk, I disagree. The word religion to me says "the institution of religion" or the sects, like catholic, baptist, etc. In my interpretation of this CD, there is no 'catholic' no 'baptist' no methodist, no buddist' statements. There are only statements that would lead us to believe that Maynard and the band (as I have always believed) have accepted the existence of some higher power. And that too is where I draw the line. But man's secularism is not going to influence my thinking. How am I, being just a man, to decide which religion is right and which of ALL the rest will go to hell? I think there is too much personal agenda in the institutions, and I think Maynard feels the same. I think that there is wisdom to be gathered from all these reiligous texts, but rituals? In any case, I think all these "religious statements, just demonstrate a belief in a higher power: And its this belief and faith in higher power, that Maynard witnessed in his mother. This is getting kinda long so I'll stop here....

jakethesnake

07-12-2006, 10:49 AM

Seriously he says

"Gotta divide it all right in two"

^ truth

Ranger10000

07-12-2006, 11:46 PM

seriously, he dont

ottercat13

07-13-2006, 05:07 AM

I hear it as "plenty in this holy garden, silly [old] monkeys".

Terry21

07-13-2006, 06:40 AM

seriously, he dont

He does. What else should he sing? "God baby I love you cut my love in love right in love"?

Love?

SunBurN

07-13-2006, 07:37 AM

I hear it as "plenty in this holy garden, silly [old] monkeys".

That's because that's what it is. ;)

myfiststinks

07-13-2006, 01:43 PM

cutting what-we-know right in two
cutting all-we-know right in two
cutting what-we-know right in two
cutting all-we-know right in two

Ranger10000

07-13-2006, 02:05 PM

He does. What else should he sing? "God baby I love you cut my love in love right in love"?

Love?

No one said this has anything to do with a chick dude. I hear him sing love, and what i gather from that is he refering to cutting God's love in two. This is a spiritual song so that would make sense. Also apprently Terry21 hasnt read the arguement about it pertaining to love and the explanation so i'll post it here for ya.

====================
Well, I hear "Cutting my love right in two." First I'll explain my phoenetics. Where you hear "Cut and . . ." I hear "Cutting . . ." That comparison of our interpretations is so sonically similar that it's not even worth debating. However, where you hear "divide it all . . ." I hear "my love . . ." I really think that the enunciation of four syllables that you hear is attributable to the dissonent beats created by the combination of the mass of effects that are placed on Maynard's vocals and the rising volume of the guitars. It sounds to me like flangers of differing frequency are applied to both vocals and guitar at this point, and a stereo delay to the vocals; and the result is an obscured chorus (I believe that this affectation is intentional, and I will explain that in the following paragraphs). Bottom line, I really think that if Maynard were packing all of those syllables underneath that sonic distortion, the result would sound more jumbled than it already does.

Now, to answer your challenge to the meaning . . . Regardless of our diverse interpretations of this song, I think that we can all agree that Maynard uses Christian (and some would specify, Catholic) imagery to illustrate the story. Part of the dogma from which this imagery springs, is that all of the material elements that make up the "real world" are manifestations of God's love. So, if the line that has sparked this controversy is spoken from the perspective of the "father [who] blessed [us] all with reason," (as I believe it to be) then "My love" and "it all" would be congruous notions.

And now let us continue with the perspective from which this line is delivered. As I have stated before, it seems to me that Tool uses its mastery of sonic effects to create that mass of distortion which obscures the delivery of this line intentionally. The purpose of this lyrical obfuscation is to show that it is a lament of the voice of all creation- of the father; a voice that is omnipresent, yet difficult to understand for humans who have moved so far from the divinity extant within ourselves. By yielding to trends of division and distraction, we have deprived oursleves of "God's" message as we continue to be "bound to divide it right in two." This song is a reflection of the confusion experienced by the angels as they watch the humans who insist upon destroying the father's love rather than enjoying its plentiful gift; punctuated by the tears of the father.

"Cutting my love, right in two."
==============================

Caduceus11

07-13-2006, 09:00 PM

...I really don't think thats it....despite all of your reasoning...I can't think of maynard's ever using the "L" word....I think maybe that word comes in for some because they can't come up with anything else...

Ranger10000

07-13-2006, 11:03 PM

spacemonkeyadb

07-14-2006, 05:26 AM

hmm ok... i understand yer reasoning... but understand this... i definently hear the "ove" sound at the end of that part... so you tell me what goes with it? Dove? above? shove? i cant think of anything that makes sense except for love, and i have taken that chorus apart with soundforge, and there definently is a "ove" in the chorus.

Agreed. Definitely "love" sung in some parts of chorus. This is certainly a tough one to work out, and many suggestions seem quite reasonable, but I think the best fit is:

"Cuttin' all I love right in two"

i.e. He's seeing everything of value in the world being destroyed by the aggression and stupidity of humanity.

Terry21

07-14-2006, 05:46 AM

cutting what-we-know right in two
cutting all-we-know right in two
cutting what-we-know right in two
cutting all-we-know right in two

Cutting the bread right in two
Cutting the bread right in two
HI I AM MAYNARD right in two
FIGHT IN BOO

Ranger10000

07-14-2006, 05:53 AM

Cutting the bread right in two
Cutting the bread right in two
HI I AM MAYNARD right in two
FIGHT IN BOO

????

SunBurN

07-14-2006, 07:32 AM

????

I'm still hearing CUUTTNDIVIDE it all right in two where he's singing that part "Cut and Divide" kind of fast as if it's all one word.

I'm not hearing "LOVE" at all, although I'm trying really hard with an open mind to hear it and other possibilities.

Terry21

07-14-2006, 07:37 AM

I'm still hearing CUUTTNDIVIDE it all right in two where he's singing that part "Cut and Divide" kind of fast as if it's all one word.

I'm not hearing "LOVE" at all, although I'm trying really hard with an open mind to hear it and other possibilities.

Exactly.

Caduceus11

07-14-2006, 09:32 AM

what are you on Terry>?

Terry21

07-14-2006, 10:17 AM

I think it's "gotta divide it all right in two". It may also be something with cut, but divide is definately there IMO.

Caduceus11

07-14-2006, 04:50 PM

that seems like too many syllables....I have considered "cut it right on, right in two" but then I think...that's not right....

Terry21

07-15-2006, 06:50 AM

Listen closely, there's definately a divide. People don't talk the "t"'s sometimes, so it's go-a divide i all right in two. :P

LetGoLetgoLetGo

07-15-2006, 11:12 AM

that seems like too many syllables....I have considered "cut it right on, right in two" but then I think...that's not right....

I hear something like "Cut it right alll right in two". But "Cut it right all" just sounds wrong.

When I go back and listen to it thinking "Cut my love right in two", it sounds pretty close, but like others, I have a hard time buying that one.

For those of you that have been in the Rosetta Stoned lyrics thread, I have posted my theory regarding MJK and different vocal channels. ie: Far left, Far right, Center. In Rosetta Stoned MJK clearly says 2 different things simultaneously that rhyme or sound similar. No none seems to be paying attention to this idea. Probably because they'd rather just fight over who is right and who is wrong. BUT, MY POINT HERE IS that maybe something similar is going on in this song.

SunBurN

07-15-2006, 01:25 PM

that seems like too many syllables....I have considered "cut it right on, right in two" but then I think...that's not right....

When I first heard this song, I thought it was "cut it right all, right in two" which can make sense since the word "right" is used that way sometimes albiet I don't think it's really proper grammar.

For instance: "get right down from there this instant!!" or "go right back to where you came from" and there are other instances when the word is used in that manner so that's why I thought "Cut it right all, right in two" was possible when I first heard it.

Since then however, I've been mostly sold on "CUTNDIVIDE it all right in two...but I can see where if he was singing "love" it would be more like the pronouciation of love with the long "o" sound so I'm entertaining that possibility, but like I said, I'm still pretty sold on the former.

Terry21

07-15-2006, 01:27 PM

The best tip I can give is to listen to the song.

Caduceus11

07-15-2006, 05:39 PM

If we take the time to consider the artwork in the cd, and the RosettaStone-LostKeys-Viginti Tres puzzle, we may come to realize that maybe there are some aspects of this CD that are multi-dimensional...I am confident that there are many revelations yet to be seen for this disk. The whole disk should be considered stereoscopic so-to-speak. I am currently about 500 miles away from home on a job, or else I'd be doing better research. I'm sure some of us will begin to start seeing the depths here sooner or later. Or maybe we'll all just have to wait until I get back home in a month. As of now, I cannot disect nor combine anything as all my sound prog's are on my home computer....I will keep toolnavy uptodate with anything I come up with when the time comes....

NicParabola

07-16-2006, 09:11 AM

This is what I could find out with Winamp and Center Cut plugin.. I could get the vocals very good, so here is it:

[They] fight ‘til they die, over earth, over sky
They fight over light (life), over blood (throne), over any life (light)
Over love, over some, over none
They fight ‘til they die, over one (all for what), for the (their) rising

Alternatives in brackets. Not sure about the very last part after the "die" because the guitar kicks in, but it's pretty close I think. In the 2nd line its either "life" or "light", (you're not hearing an "f" the second time) but I think first time is "light" and second is "life". And most propably it's "blood".

Caduceus11

07-16-2006, 03:42 PM

yea, that's cool, but did you find anything in the chorus>? "_______ right in two"?

Terry21

07-17-2006, 12:33 AM

"Gotta divide it all". :P

Ranger10000

07-17-2006, 06:08 AM

"Cut-All I love"

:)

Terry21

07-17-2006, 06:58 AM

"Hit me baby one more time"

:)

Caduceus11

07-17-2006, 09:42 AM

...thats not right!!!

Ranger10000

07-17-2006, 01:42 PM

Caduceus11

07-17-2006, 02:38 PM

good point....I think he's on to something...

spacemonkeyadb

07-18-2006, 04:54 AM

yeah.... that's just not cool man, hmm just thought of something... why would maynard sing "Gotta divide it all in two" ? that sounds to me like he is promoting what he is against in the song ... so it would make more sense to sing "Cut- all i love right in two".... so why would he promote, "gotta divide it all?? "

Firstly, I agree with Ranger here, though I think it needs to be "CUTTIN' all I love..." to fit what I'm hearing.

Secondly, and to anticipate Terry's likely response here, "Gotta divide it..." could still make sense as without an initial pronoun this could mean either:
i) "I'VE gotta divide it..." which would be subject to Ranger's objection, or...
ii) "THEY'VE gotta divide it..." which would not.

Thirdly, I've tried to hear it as "Cut & divide..." but I can't hear either the first or second "d" for "divide".

Terry21

07-18-2006, 06:40 AM

I heard it again today. And I'm seriously asking me where you all get that love from. And where you get the idea from that it's anything else than "divide it all".

@ Ranger: "Gotta divide it all right in two" means you have to share with people. It means the same as "you're bound to divide it right in two".

spacemonkeyadb

07-18-2006, 07:43 AM

Ranger's point still holds: Why would the song lament at one point that us silly monkeys will DIVIDE anything in two given the opportunity ...

"Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to DIVIDE it
Right in two"

... and then suggest that the solution is for us to DIVIDE even more and share!?!

And like I said, I can understand where you're hearing "divide" in the chorus (Ranger's "...all I..." = Terry's "...divi.."), but I can't hear any "d" sounds for divide.
If you want to know where/how I'm hearing "love" ...

"Gotta divide it *all right* in two" Vs "Cuttin' all I *love right* in two"

ALL - RIGHT = LU - VRIGHT

It's really not a stretch to hear this bit either way, but I don't hear "divide".

Andorion

07-18-2006, 08:22 AM

At 3:37, as the refrain, I hear:

"Cutting it all right in two
cut it all right in two
cutting it all right in two
cutting it all right in two"

with some weird inflection and a silent G on "cutting"

SunBurN

07-18-2006, 08:27 AM

yeah.... that's just not cool man, hmm just thought of something... why would maynard sing "Gotta divide it all in two" ? that sounds to me like he is promoting what he is against in the song. If you listen to the lyrics, he says, monkey killin, monkey over pieces, and Where there's one they will divide it right in two.... ok now what i get from this song is that from everything that came about from eating of the apple in the Garden of eden, came selfishness, non-caring, and violence, plus much much more, nothing positive by the way, so it would make more sense to sing "Cut- all i love right in two".... this kinda goes with the thought pattern i have developed for the song. Meaning he is singing the chorus from God's perspective. Why would he sing "Gotta divide it all" when he in fact is upset with the turn out with the garden of eden. Back in those days, there never used to be any dividing of anything, there was always plenty to go around for everyone, cause no one knew property. No one knew "this is mine, go get your own", so why would he promote, "gotta divide it all?? "

Because he (MJK) is saying that despite what god gave us (the garden of eden etc) our free will has brought us down and it's our nature to be selfish and to want what we believe to be ours or what we as humans think we're entitled to.

I think that's the message he's trying to relay throughout the song going from the obvious perspective of the angels point of view. Now I'm trying really hard to hear love, but it's just not apparent to me at all. I'm keeping an open mind to your reasoning because it does have merit, but I don't think the lyrics are "cut all I love right in two", or "cutting our love right in two" because IMHO the theme of "love" is never brought up in the song.

The central theme of the song is how we humans are selfish, and how we'll divide up even the smallest thing to get what ours even if there is "plenty" to go around. And as we progress in our "evolution" over the years, our selfishness grows and continues to the point that we use violence to get what's ours or our share as in the line:

"silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club and beat their brother down".

So due to that reasoning, it makes the most sense to me that he's singing "CUTNDIVIDE IT ALL Right in two" but again, other variations like "gotta divide it all right in two" are also possible but because of the way MJK sings it in such an indescernable fashion which I suspect was on purpose to get us to think further and explore the underlying meaning of this song, this won't be settled until the lyrics are officially released.

Terry21

07-18-2006, 08:33 AM

Ranger's point still holds: Why would the song lament at one point that us silly monkeys will DIVIDE anything in two given the opportunity ...

"Plenty in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to DIVIDE it
Right in two"

... and then suggest that the solution is for us to DIVIDE even more and share!?!
.

Seems like a few guys here don't get the point of this song.

There is plenty of things in Eden. But still the monkeys fight over ONE piece of ground. Every monkey wants to have everything of the ground, instead of giving his brother half and himself half. When there's ONE, you're bound to DIVIDE IT RIGHT IN TWO, That doesn't mean we DO IT, that means, we HAVE to do it.

Sorry, I didn't mean to bash anybody, that's my interpretation and I hope you get my point.

Edit: And if it IS what you mean, like, they DO divide it right in two, then "gotta divide it all" could mean the same thing. ;)

Caduceus11

07-18-2006, 09:35 AM

At 3:37, as the refrain, I hear:

"Cutting it all right in two
cut it all right in two
cutting it all right in two
cutting it all right in two"

with some weird inflection and a silent G on "cutting"

Yea, that's the ticket. That's what I've been singing for a while now. I would have to go with Terry tho, on the other 2 options being argued right now. I just can't go with the 'love' It just doesn't seem to fit....TOOL, Maynard or the song itself....

Also, as we see the song's truth...even we, as TOOL fans, have begun to "Cut it all RIGHT IN TWO" Even on this very thread....

Ranger10000

07-18-2006, 05:19 PM

i just got another live audio of another show with right in two, and this one is so clear on everything... i hear "lift a lie to heaven" and the whole "cut whatever... right in two" .... sounds like hes drunk and slurrying everything to make it unpronouncable. It almost sounds German... "Kuile-hai-la" ... or possibly "Cutting high and low" and sometimes i hear a distinct "G" in the cutting part. but i dont hear divide anywhere.

spacemonkeyadb

07-18-2006, 05:56 PM

Seems like a few guys here don't get the point of this song.

There is plenty of things in Eden. But still the monkeys fight over ONE piece of ground. Every monkey wants to have everything of the ground, instead of giving his brother half and himself half. When there's ONE, you're bound to DIVIDE IT RIGHT IN TWO, That doesn't mean we DO IT, that means, we HAVE to do it.

Sorry, I didn't mean to bash anybody, that's my interpretation and I hope you get my point.

Edit: And if it IS what you mean, like, they DO divide it right in two, then "gotta divide it all" could mean the same thing. ;)

Thanks for clarifying your position. I see that you're taking the lyric to mean "bound to" as in "morally required to" rather than as "likely to". Here I think we have an issue worthy of further debate as it suggests 2 very different interpretations of the song...
(perhaps this should be posted elsewhere, but I'll put it here as it bears on the issue of the chorus lyrics)

INTERPRETATION 1: Us monkeys need to quit fighting over everything, and the solution is to divide things up and share. The chorus then recommends this solution to us.

INTERPRETATION 2: The problem is that us silly monkeys will fight over anything given the chance, with the unfortunate result that everything gets divided in two. The chorus then laments this unfortunate fact.

I'd really like to know if anyone else believes interpretation 1 is Tool's intended meaning. Anyways, here's why I think it is not:

"PLENTY in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to divide it"

If there is plenty in this garden, then why the need to DIVIDE & share, why not just get another one?

Also, compare the above lyric with:

"Silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade
And where there's one they're bound to divide it..."

Here the monkeys WILL forge a blade (just as earlier they WILL divide it). To apply interpretation 1 here in an analagous way you would require this to mean something like: The monkeys WILL forge a blade but unfortunately they forget that they are also bound(required) to then divide things with it as well.

Also, if being "bound to divide" is a good thing in both of the above lyrics, then compare with the later lyric:

"Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club,
And beat their brother down"

Is this also a positive thing? Or is it an unfortunate fact, just like how we are "bound(likely) to divide" things in the prrevious 2 cases?

And finally, I think interpretation 2 fits in much better with the whole perspective of the song, i.e. Angels looking down on the unfortunate plight of humanity, and lamenting their unfortunate condition.

Caduceus11

07-18-2006, 06:28 PM

the most simplified interpretation of this song "IMO" is this:
Unity = division. IF we are to be grouped or classed as monkeys or anything else, there will be division; and its the way we are, as unfortunate and disfunctional as it is. We are ALL repugnant creatures, as a race of humans, which in itself, is a division from OTHER living things here on this planet. There is no EDEN, there is no PEACE. There is only division....and breaking it down into its simplest form, 1 divided is 2....right in two....

Caduceus11

07-18-2006, 06:34 PM

[QUOTE=spacemonkeyadb]
INTERPRETATION 1: Us monkeys need to quit fighting over everything, and the solution is to divide things up and share. The chorus then recommends this solution to us.

INTERPRETATION 2: The problem is that us silly monkeys will fight over anything given the chance, with the unfortunate result that everything gets divided in two. The chorus then laments this unfortunate fact."

I don't know, I dare not speculate what the songs meant to the authors....I think we need to open our minds and realize its a little of both...some of each of these.

mackschapman

07-18-2006, 08:00 PM

Fight till they die,
(Ahhh!) over what? for their ending

I hear:

Fight till they die,
(Ahhh!) over what? For their lies.

I know that maynard would not link there musical lyrics with something in the news, but there has been alot of talk about the catholic church and its "big lie". It seems to me that alot of the lyrics that have come out from us fans seem to be connecting to this big lie somone has told, such as:

Why did Father give these humans free will?
Now they're all confused.

As most know christians/catholics call God father, and he gave man free will do as we please.
With that free will somone start a lie, hense: Now they're all confused

Even though this is for the Right In Two lyrics another lyric I would like to point out in Vicarious:

Cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
"You all need it too - don't lie."

At the start of speculation I saw alot of: "You all needn't to choose your lie."

Could this be the fact that man has been raised in a world of religion. Maybe maynard it stating that man is controled by religion and we dont have a choice on what we believe. This could go down to religion and also the news. If we turn on the TV every day and see hell on earth then we have nothing to believe but there is hell on earth. Basically mans ability of choosing what we believe has been taken away and now we are forced to believe lies. We have no reason to choose what we believe, even though what we have to choose from is all lies anyways.

Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused.
Father blessed them all with reason,
And this is what they choose?

The Crusade, God gave man free will, we chose to create a lie. The crusades were from the catholic church to defend the lie as so many books have now made the assertion. Hense: Angles on the sideline, baffled and confused. They are "sitting in the clouds(sideline) baffled at why man is killing man over a stupid lie that God gave us the free will to make. God gave man reason and our reason was to "crusade" to kill millions over a lie, thats what we chose. Even today War is raging, and we all know it wasn't for the right reasons. And the war that rages was defently not "reasonable".

Monkey killing monkey killing monkey over pieces of the ground.

Even though the crusades were hundreds of years ago man is still fighting over land, and for what reason? Why is it that man must kill eachother to have a place they can call their own?

How they survive so misguided is a mystery.

This is the one sentence that I am questioning and I need help, of course this is all speculation and all critizism and any type of interpretation is GREAT in my book. But this sentence intrigues me. I know that its going to be a huge fight about maynards beliefs and what he thinks, and I know I am going to get the "Ignorant christian" sticker slapped on my forhead for saying this but I have to ask:
Could maynard be admitting to a higher power here?

All this is pure speculation and I hope no fights will start and no offense will be taken. My mind is as open as a blue sky so please do tell me what you think :).

Ranger10000

07-18-2006, 10:50 PM

Thanks for clarifying your position. I see that you're taking the lyric to mean "bound to" as in "morally required to" rather than as "likely to". Here I think we have an issue worthy of further debate as it suggests 2 very different interpretations of the song...
(perhaps this should be posted elsewhere, but I'll put it here as it bears on the issue of the chorus lyrics)

INTERPRETATION 1: Us monkeys need to quit fighting over everything, and the solution is to divide things up and share. The chorus then recommends this solution to us.

INTERPRETATION 2: The problem is that us silly monkeys will fight over anything given the chance, with the unfortunate result that everything gets divided in two. The chorus then laments this unfortunate fact.

I'd really like to know if anyone else believes interpretation 1 is Tool's intended meaning. Anyways, here's why I think it is not:

"PLENTY in this holy garden, silly monkeys
Where there's one you're bound to divide it"

If there is plenty in this garden, then why the need to DIVIDE & share, why not just get another one?

Also, compare the above lyric with:

"Silly monkeys give them thumbs they forge a blade
And where there's one they're bound to divide it..."

Here the monkeys WILL forge a blade (just as earlier they WILL divide it). To apply interpretation 1 here in an analagous way you would require this to mean something like: The monkeys WILL forge a blade but unfortunately they forget that they are also bound(required) to then divide things with it as well.

Also, if being "bound to divide" is a good thing in both of the above lyrics, then compare with the later lyric:

"Silly monkeys give them thumbs they make a club,
And beat their brother down"

Is this also a positive thing? Or is it an unfortunate fact, just like how we are "bound(likely) to divide" things in the prrevious 2 cases?

And finally, I think interpretation 2 fits in much better with the whole perspective of the song, i.e. Angels looking down on the unfortunate plight of humanity, and lamenting their unfortunate condition.

I agree with interpretation 2, and your examples are exactly what i had taken from the song too. Interpretation 1 is too plain in my book, and i dont think Maynard would be that plain.. "lets share" ? thats the message??? i dont think so, its much more powerful and interpretation 2 is more on spiritual note.

WeMoveInPeriods

07-19-2006, 08:56 AM

cut my whole right in two
cut my whole right in two
cut my whole right in two

Terry21

07-19-2006, 11:14 AM

cut my whale right in two
cut my whale right in two
cut my whale right in two

Caduceus11

07-19-2006, 06:48 PM

...innappropriate....

WeMoveInPeriods

07-20-2006, 07:12 AM

cut my germany right in two
cut my germany right in two
cut my germany right in two

lizbiz

07-20-2006, 07:20 AM

At 3:37, as the refrain, I hear:

"Cutting it all right in two
cut it all right in two
cutting it all right in two
cutting it all right in two"

I Agree. I don't think MJK is telling us what TO do, he's saying what we ARE doing. It's a continuation of Schism IMO. As we supposedly bring eachother closer with technology and telecommunications, in reality, we're growing further apart.

Caduceus11

07-20-2006, 11:48 AM

which is indirectly showing us what we should do....we should form a triangle around Iraq and all these warmongers in the holy lands and make them feel the spiral....maybe then we'd be doing something for a change....

Terry21

07-20-2006, 11:54 AM

Angels on the sideline,

*beings that are in conctact with our maker, looking at his product*

Puzzled and amused.

*they find it funny and a little bit irritating*

Why did Father give these humans free will?

*why did he do that if they do such shit?*

Now they’re all confused.

*now the angels really are irritated*

Don’t these talking monkeys know that
Eden has enough to go around?

*don't the humans know that there's enough for all?*

Plenty in this holy garden, silly old monkeys,
Where there’s one, you're bound to divide it,
Right in two.

*there is much stuff, and where there's only one, the humans GOTTA DIVIDE IT ALL RIGHT IN TWO*

People fight over stuff instead of giving themselves half and their brother half, that's why they fight and fight and fight. Damn, if you first listen to this song how could any other interpretation come to mind? Your guys' interpretation is naturally second choice for me. I'm not trying to be arrogant or something like that. Only rational.

spacemonkeyadb

07-20-2006, 06:07 PM

People fight over stuff instead of giving themselves half and their brother half, that's why they fight and fight and fight. Damn, if you first listen to this song how could any other interpretation come to mind? Your guys' interpretation is naturally second choice for me. I'm not trying to be arrogant or something like that. Only rational.

Fair enough Terry21. You're entitled to your opinion. However, it does seem that you are the only one who thinks that this interpretation is correct.

And as for "how could any other interpretation come to mind?", well if you actually read my earlier post you would've found that there I actually give my REASONS for thinking that the song is not recommending division as a solution. If you want to convince anyone else, you might want to respond to those points rather than merely restating your position and using huge letters.

I understand that you think the song says: There's plenty in this garden, so IN THE PARTICULAR CASE where there's only one, we need to divide it in two.

My argument is that the *rest of the lyrics in the song* make it clear that what is meant is: There's plenty in this garden, yet WHEREVER there is one (i.e. IN EVERY CASE) us silly monkeys will try to divide it in two (instead of just getting another one). And this is WHY us monkeys are SILLY.

Aunt Acid

07-20-2006, 06:25 PM

cut my whole right in two
cut my whole right in two
cut my whole right in two

This is what I think it is now. Never thought of it.

Ranger10000

07-21-2006, 01:14 PM

cut my whale right in two
cut my whale right in two
cut my whale right in two

no, it's

We should all just get along - Right in two
Can i have half of your sandwich?- Right in two
C'mon ppl, cant we please share!! - Right in two

sorry i was drunk when i wrote that.. but looking at it now, it needs to be said. I dont believe maynard would be informing us that we need to share that sounds a little weak in my book. and "gotta divide it all"?? That just don't make sense to me. We don't have to divide anything, if we dont want to, that's called free will... something else we earned from the apple in the garden of eden. When I hear "Cut all i love right in two". It reminds me of how upset god was with Adam and Eve when he found out they betrayed him, after he told them they could eat any fruit in the garden, but not that particular tree. So, Maynards interpreting God's view or the angels view of us all "Cut all i love" or "cut my love" right in two makes sense. We did this to ourselves, we have cut his faith in what he created right in two. I believe he was gambling with his creation that we would not disobey him/let him down, and he lost.... but in all reality, we lost. I think he added a little too much couriosity in the ingredients for making human beings... and all those unfortuante events with the monkeys in the story are all downfalls of the apple, just examples of how screwed up we are now, or confused.