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swaps
05-02-2006, 11:58 AM
SETLIST --

Lost Keys
Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
Forty Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
Right In Two
Sober
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema



*DO NOT POST IF YOU WERE NOT AT THE SHOW!

kristof
06-24-2006, 12:11 AM
Jeszcze tylko 10 godzin!!! Bomba

woytek_erni
06-24-2006, 05:15 AM
No to jedziemy

muhaaa
06-24-2006, 12:53 PM
it was totally amazing..!
but .. short, too. :(

Russlan
06-24-2006, 01:07 PM
The setlist was probably:

Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned
Stinkfist
Forty Six & 2
Jambi
Schism
Right In Two
Sober
Lateralus
Vicarious
Ænema

I was hoping for both The Pot and Right in two... Concert lasted around 1 h 40 min, so as short as usually. Sound wasn't good IMO. But the show was amazing though! :D:D
As far as I remember Maynard during the whole show said only "Good evening' after Rosetta and thanked for the show before Aenima (and mentioned something about touring here again in november) :)

Tomash133
06-24-2006, 01:23 PM
It was an amazing and awesome show, first show of TOOL i've ever been to. It was extremly hot by the stage but seein TOOL was worth of it. I hope they will tour in Poland again ;]

muhaaa
06-24-2006, 01:24 PM
He said :
good evening,thank you , see you soon , hopefully in november

Kaminari
06-24-2006, 01:36 PM
I agree that the sound was quite poor- too much bass and from time to time barely recognizable vocals. Luckily, the band did their job well. Obviously, their interaction with the crowd was minimalized and there was no encores, but we could all expect it from TooL: it's just the way they are and I really have no problem with it. Though the setlist was the same as in previous shows, I really enjoyed all the songs (unfortunately, they did no exeptions for Poland and didn't play 'Third Eye' ;). TooL remains an extremely professional band and even Maynard's dumb cowboy image won't change it ;).

mlynar
06-24-2006, 01:51 PM
In my opinion show in Krakow in 2001 was 10000 times better then this one, sound was totally fucked up, maybe in november they'll come back to Krakow, I have to say that Jambi live is gooood...

Auliya
06-24-2006, 02:11 PM
That's right. The band did their job well. But the crowd... WTF? Barely anyone knew the lyrics, nvmd lyrics, they all looked like they didn't even recognise the songs. Pfff, why bother? Jumping, clapping in weird moments, shouting tool over and over again...Hell we like it.

woytek_erni
06-24-2006, 02:12 PM
I hope that tool will back to Poland in november and bring much more good sound equipmet, cause they didn't turned the volume up full blast today.

Russlan
06-24-2006, 02:19 PM
That's right. The band did their job well. But the crowd... WTF? Barely anyone knew the lyrics, nvmd lyrics, they all looked like they didn't even recognise the songs. Pfff, why bother? Jumping, clapping in weird moments, shouting tool over and over again...Hell we like it.
Yeah, you're right! Some people looked like if they'd got free tickets and aren't intrerested in the show at all...There was a moment, I don't remember exactly, in Aenema probably, in chorus, Maynard stopped singing for a moment and the crowd didn't sing for him at all, you could hardly hear anybody singing...

Auliya
06-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Poor example Russian, they couldn't even sing Sober properly. Hey, and really, I wasn't t h a t far away from the stage, right under the middle of the dome, moreover, I moved there from the back, hoped to find anyone knowing what was going on... Don't tell me that all the fans hid themeselves in the sectors... I'm curious, it was only an accident or is it always like this? Here, in Poland, we're not reade for Tool...

klik
06-24-2006, 04:25 PM
ćwoki,jeteście gówno warci , w szczególności wydaje wam sie że jesteście fanami toola czy jakiegokliwem zespołu.idzcie słuchać green day i depeche mode.Nie byłem na tym koncercie ale widziełem paru ludzi którzy sie tam wybierali..nic dziwneg0 ze maynard śpiewał do was dupą przez pierwsze 15 minut,kurwamac,no było do chuja nie podobne.it was fake not genuin,FUCK-ALL.bylem na koncercie w krakowie i nigdy tego nie zapomne,czasy sie zmieniły zasady poszły się JEBAĆ, jebajcie sie jebvanne nastolatki i wasze przytoolanki i jbane pedały z włosami w dupie na żelu.

zmrol
06-24-2006, 05:47 PM
osome, god... klik ia sa jackass but he had some point... btw Russlan -i sow/hear this same moment when meynard stop singing- iwos sad and shamed :(

ToRn
06-24-2006, 07:44 PM
The same setlist, no suprises...poor sound, poor audience (too much tickets won? ;) ) pitty :(
The perfomance @ Ozzfest in the same hall in 2002 was lots, lots, lots much better..hopufuly they will come back here soon again (november?).
In my opinion it was really bad...great band though :]

xerd
06-24-2006, 10:17 PM
Indeed the setlist was same as past shows.
Anyway it was my first Tool show.
It was extremly hot. People were too angry.
Something was wrong with sound cause in few moments music was getting to bass chaos ;D
Anyway show was great.
And I am waiting for more ]:]

baga
06-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Sound was fuckin fake... Too loud. But it was my first experience with Tool live music, and it was great :D I hope that they are going to play in Poland in November ("see you soon, hopefully in november" :D )

klik
06-24-2006, 11:33 PM
pics: http://muzyka.onet.pl/10173,35410,0,1,3,galerie.html

wiktor
06-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Show was great? What show? Have you ever been on Metallica, Rammstain? They're making show and Tool don't.
This was my first Tool concert, and I am very dissapointed.
Zero communication with people, no encore, zero visaul effects - what the fuck? Sorry, but the visualisation aren't a visual effects for me.
In one word - too short, no enthusiasm from musicians, lack of effects.

susel
06-25-2006, 01:11 AM
It was my second Tool show. I loved it and had a great time, even though there were some things I didn't like. The sound was too loud, especially during the second part of the show, too bassy (I hope this squeaking sound will disappear from my ears soon...), as usuall no interaction with the crowd, and the show being too short. But other than that, it was a real Tool feast. I had a fantastic time, lost a lot of energy, lost my voice (remember, don't drink soda from refrigerators right after such a show), met many friends, enjoyed the visuals (even though I'd already seen most of them). Greetz to the Polish Railroads - there's nothing like a train late for 80 minutes :)

joanna69
06-25-2006, 01:32 AM
Było świetnie ... ale troche rozczarowana jestem ludzmi ktorzy na koncert przyszli ... bo to co dzialo sie na scenie bylo do przewidzenia(niestety) ale fani? nastawili sie tylko na szatanskie pogo, po 2 piosence musialam uciekac na tyly plyty bo nie moglam oddychac i bylam juz cala poobijana :| nastepnym razem troche mniej pogo a troche wiecej serca! jak mozna bylo nie znac textow piosenek?! zachowanie fanow (nie wszystkich rzecz jasna ) bylo troche zalosne ... co do zespolu: wiadomo Tool to Tool, wiadomo bylo ze tak to bedzie wygladac ... naglosnienie niezbyt dobre ale wspaniale dzwieki rozchodzily sie po moim ciele i wsiakaly we mnie-cudna rzecz :) za duzo nie widzialam co sie dzialo na scenie niestey ale to co zdolalo mi sie zobaczyc wystarczylo :) Szkoda ze terazniejszy Tool to juz nie to samo co kiedys ale najwazniejsza jest przeciez muzyka a jej nie zabraklo :) mimo iz grali krotko. Miejmy nadzieje ze to co powiedzial MJK okaze sie prawdą i ze jezeli odbedzie sie nastepny koncert publika pokaze klase - wkoncu Tool to nie punkowa napierdalanka i nie trzeba przesadzac z pogo :P i drodzy "fani' : nauczcie sie textow piosenek:P i nie psujmy sobie nawzajem tak niezwyklego wydarzenia jak koncert Tool. Ja mimo wielu nieprzyjemnosci bede koncert wspominac bardzo milo :)
Pozdrawiam wszystkich, "see you soon, hopefully in november"

fishdick
06-25-2006, 02:02 AM
There was a moment, I don't remember exactly, in Aenema probably, in chorus, Maynard stopped singing for a moment and the crowd didn't sing for him at all, you could hardly hear anybody singing...
five years passed... maybe they forgot? ;)

Mar_Osk
06-25-2006, 02:11 AM
This was my first Tool concert. I amused myself immensely, what cannot be said about other people, stood if were here by chance thus throughout the concert, only at times stirred and sang only some. You have rights providing sound in moments it disappointed. The concert was short and there were no encore. MJK stood behind, he had no contact with the public.
I ask these which were on other concerts he always so behaves? Perhaps we did not merit more?

rattkin
06-25-2006, 02:36 AM
The actual setlist is correct. It's worth to mention, that there were several jams between songs, with one especially cool, somewhere around vicarious, I believe. It involved rather ambient/electronic sounds, with both Adam and Maynard playing on keyboards. During that, a technician was tuning adam's guitar for vicarious.

There was also a moment, where the band stopped playing, had taken off instruments, and were sitting/laying for few mins, observing the crowd. Of course angry eighteens haven't understood the idea behind that...

The show was dissapointing, from the very beginning. The organisation was poor, the price for ticket aswell (150 PLN = approx. $50, it's ALOT for a one-band gig here in Poland). Spodek hall has awful sound-surrounding, which in the end results with inaccurate, distracted, rumbiling sound, echoing from the walls. The accoustics were fucked up. There were few times, where guitar or percussion sound was suddenly raised up, drowning out the other members. The visuals were displayed on 4 screens (nice), but majority of them comes up from last tour, and the new ones looked like shit, seems like done in 10 minutes, involving some basic digital processing effects (kaleidoscope etc). Definitely not made by Camella. (aka Retina Logic)

As for musicians, I haven't noticed any major fuckups in playing. Danny did the usual job, but seemed rather out-of-the place, Adam's technique improved, this could be seen in certainty in his hands. Justin seemed to enjoy the playing, he moves more, smiles more, waves head/hair sometimes, there is a life in his bass playing - seems like he did the best progress. MJK moved sometimes, but his voice left a lot to be desired in some parts (or maybe it was accoustics).

The highlights were the ambient intros between songs, super-quick schism bridge (awesome idea!), Rosetta Stoned was performed (and sounded) suprisingly good. As for other songs, meh, poor. Songs from new album sounded flat, especially Jambi and (to my great dissapointment) - Vicarious.

Can't agree about the fans and lyrics - I felt a lot of people enjoyed the show singing, and you seem to forgot the sober part, where maynard left almost all lyrics from chorus, leaving the singing to choir of fans, singing only one word to give a sync for all. It was something 'not-toolish' and I liked it.

New fans could enjoy it, I'm sure, But it wasn't an awesome gig, really.

I would like to thank all my friends around the country, who I met with - you were mostly the thing I went there for and (contrary to band) you haven't disappointed.

4950
06-25-2006, 02:39 AM
To byl moj trzeci kocert Tool. Niestety najgorszy. Instrumenty za glosno, vocal za cicho. Wielka szkoda. Co do zachowania zespolu na scenie to zawsze sie tak zachowuja. Jak ktos chce zobaczyc show to niech idzie na Ich Troje. Za duzo tez bylo ludzi na plycie. Z gory wygladalo to tak jak by zaraz mialo dojsc do powtorki z Roskillde przy wystepie Pearl Jam.
P.S.
Czy zauwazyliscie, ze konstrukcja spodka powoli sie sypie?

rattkin
06-25-2006, 02:46 AM
Also, I've set up myself to hear the lyrics in some hard parts. So what I've definitely heard was :

"head on out your happy haze"
"grave and ground"
"still have a transmittal / sing to the death rattle"

"Jambi, I"
"Silent legions, save your poison/silent legions stay out of my way"
"Divide and wither it away"

Marcos Santino
06-25-2006, 02:49 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but are the people that post here NOT satisfied with the concert? You must have been sooooo high ;)

I went to bed at 5 a.m. - it is a long way from Katowice to Poznan, weary but without any regrets!

My first tool gig and I have to admit that I had a great time. The band played the songs that I wanted to hear (Stinkfist, AEnema and Lateralus). I can't complain about the quality of the sound - for those who do - have you ever been in Stodola in Warsaw? After the (disastrous - in my opinion) Mars Volta concert last year I think it would take a total catastrophe to make me complain ;)

Maynard did not say much, perhaps someone told him that such greetings as "hello, Belgium" (like in Glasgow, if I'm correct) would not be found welcome in Poland ;) Although he could have tried: "Are there any Ukrainians here?" It was a much greater chance to meet someone from Ukraine yesterday iin Katowice, than in the UK. :) He was silent (between the songs, of course ;) ) and limited himself only to "Good evening" and "see you in November, hopefully".

The band... Justin was bustling with energy, Maynard also seemed to enjoy himself ( I couldn't see correctly but I think he didn't have his cowboy hat with him). I coulnd't see Danny and Adam, apart from a couple of times, but that didn't ruin the show for me, I had a great time listening to the music.

There were some people who just stood there like rocks, unmoved by the band. Perhaps that's the way they enjoy music and I'm absolutely okay with that, but I do have a suggestion for them: next time you go to a show like that, get seats!

Felt inspired, fathomed the power, witnessed the beauty, swung on the spiral.


Guys, thanks for an amazing evening and see you in November!!

ToRn
06-25-2006, 03:17 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but are the people that post here NOT satisfied with the concert? You must have been sooooo high ;)

...My first tool gig and I have to admit that I had a great time.

yep - it was ur first show - it explains everything :)
It was the worst show in Poland so far - trust me..trust me..trust me..trust me.. :]

wiktor
06-25-2006, 03:48 AM
If you want just to listen the music, you just simple turn on CD.
On the concert, you want to watch the band (but not their backs), listen them talking to you... just watching the show... Not this time, unfortunately :(

trocchi
06-25-2006, 03:49 AM
It was my first TOOL LIVE gig yesterday and I have to admit that the show was not 100% metaphysics I expected, though to hear SCHISM and SOBER live was a startling and astounding experience.
Lots of you are right as far as the sound is concerned. It was entirely fucked up what surely contributed to a slightly unpleasant reception of the show at certain moments.
The audiences - as far as this aspect of the gig is concerned, I fully agree with joanna 69. The crowd behaved like a pack of wolves. My sister nearly broke her leg when about 50 people collapsed in the middle during LOST KEYS. For the rest of the gig we moved back since it was impossible to remain in the middle of the wild crowd.
I hope that the next gig is going to be better.
See you in November:)

IamTheDog
06-25-2006, 03:51 AM
It was my second Tool show (first was in Christchurch, New Zealand in april 2002) and i was so amazed. It was a great show...

wojtek46_2
06-25-2006, 04:09 AM
This was my first TOOL concert and I enjoyed it!
I agree that there was too much bass and vocals were too silent - poor sound.
Too much fans were to just mosh and jump in other people. Being closer to scene there was constant fight to stand straight :(
They could play longer as there wasnt any support.

But overall it was awesome and I wont forget it, and dont regret any PLN i paid - was worth.
Got back home at 5 am ( Rzeszow ) and still have ear buzzing.

b52
06-25-2006, 04:16 AM
this is pathetic, people are so easily spoiled. I remember 5 years ago when tool first came to Poland and everybody was pissing their pants. now, when they have another chance to see the band live, all of a sudden 'the sound was poor' or maynard didn't say 'I love you Poland you are the best audience ever' or other shit.

If you cant acknowledge or enjoy a simple fact that you have just witnessed one of the best bands in history perform live you should have gone home and had an orgasm in front of computer screen or whatever makes you happy. I know you'll still wear you Tool t-shirt the next day because it makes you look cool

Denis
06-25-2006, 04:31 AM
If you cant acknowledge or enjoy a simple fact that you have just witnessed one of the best bands in history perform live you should have gone home and had an orgasm in front of computer screen or whatever makes you happy. I know you'll still wear you Tool t-shirt the next day because it makes you look cool.

Piękne słowa,ale mimo wszystko ludzie też dali radee...

BYŁO PIĘKNIE, NIE MOGE DOJŚĆ DO SIEBIE


Guys, thanks for an amazing SHOW.love.

hOPEFULLY SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER.

trikk
06-25-2006, 04:48 AM
First Concert and I feel pwnd
50$ is nothing compared to the sounds I`ve heard (a bit too loud, but still...)

First of all:
Its a rock band and rock band = pogo `n stuff and not standing and waving your hands...
Second of all:
Yes, Tool has a rather original way of composing and there are songs when you can wave and when you can jump
Third:
Tool does not sing "Oh babe, I love you so much" and doesnt have "catchy" lyrics, so the fact that people didnt sing or sang incorrectly could have come from this fact. Besides, when you hear such a band live, you suddenly forget the lyrics :p (like I did)

spooky79
06-25-2006, 04:56 AM
I'm reading your posts and i'm seeing only typical Polish whining. Where's the love? Are you guys never satisfied?

First things first - poor sound? Are you really that insane? The sound was excellent in my opinion. I have been to a few concerts before, also of foreign bands, and this sound totally blew my mind. I had a standing ticket. Maybe it was depending on the place where you stood (or sat), but definitely the vocals were loud and clear all the time for me. I heard all instruments correctly and equally well.

Some people say it was too silent - well, get your ears checked. It was very loud, but actually the guys only once went beyond the limits of the equipment, but that was during some high overdrive solo by Adam.

Some folks say there was too much bass - come on... that was the best bass i've ever experienced at a live show. My body was gently massaged by that vibration, i felt it even in my balls and it felt fucking good. Obviously you'll never have that kind of experience when you listen to Tool at home. And that's the beauty of a live show.

Some folks whine about other people. Well, sure, for some people it was not a love issue (i mean love for Tool's music), but a fashion issue to attend the show. But i don't mind. That's not something to get irritated at, rather to laugh at. Like some guys that after the show whined about the fact that there was no supporting band. Come on, we knew this a month before the show. Some whined about the fact that the show was short - we also knew it a month before. Some whined about ticket prices - well, for me this show was a life-enhancing experience, just as listening to Tool is a life-changing experience - next time i'm getting a sitting ticket which costs twice as much and i won't frown on that. Some also whined about tshirt prices - silly, i won't even comment on that.

Some folks whine about Maynard standing with the back to the audience for 15 minutes. Are you nuts? :) Laughable whining... Read comments from other shows and you will understand that they felt really well here and the connection with the audience was amazing. If you don't understand it, it's your problem, not mine. I had an awesome time, i had to stop myself from crying a few times during certain songs (and i'm a heterosexual male, btw), the effects and lights were beautifully enhancing this experience.

I don't even care to whine about the incidents that happened in the audience close to the stage - i was there, during Rosetta i slowly moved to the back and to the left because i'm not strong enough to fight with all those sweaty jumping folks. But it's their right to react that way to this music - you can't judge people by the way you are, you can't think that your reaction is the only correct one. I wanted to have more privacy and air to breathe, so i moved back and it was great.

Last but not least - if anyone here is also a member of Toolarmy, let me know. I spotted a few people in TA shirts there, i'd like to meet you on TA.

See You all in November. Stop whining, kill your hate and spread the love.

Dobrawa
06-25-2006, 05:14 AM
Does anyone know what exactly is going to be in autumn this year? an european tour in November or sth?

I`m in two minds about the concert. Thankfully to D Carey And J Chancellor it was awesome. Yes, I also was expecting juat a little bit more contact with the audience from Maynard...
I think `lost keys`is not the best song to start the concert with...

-i do not agree that people didn`t know the lyrics! (it would be ridiculous, though)

in my view yesterday`s concert was not the best, but hope to see Tool again very very soon!

spasm
06-25-2006, 05:33 AM
Typical Poles, nothing but complain. Sound was GOOD. Show was great, audience was good as weel, although there was a bunch of jumping nuts. Great intros and extensions. About singing fans, well I also had a feeling that quite a lot of people came by accident, as far as TOOL is concerned, lyrics and music are INTEGRAL. Thanks for the BAND, you've done your best. See you in November!!
P.S. Gig in Krakow 4 years ago was too beautiful to happen again :| IMHO.

zeteenoen

joanna69
06-25-2006, 05:48 AM
OK I agree that some people complain too much but sometimes they're right(but only sometimes;))
1) Maynard - i know he doesn't talk too much but 3 sentences it's just very little.But better 3 sentences than nothing ;)
2) Sound - it wasn't bad , but we all know it could be much better
3) Lyrics - How can you not want to sing for them? Or if not for Tool just for yourself!
4) Pogo - pogo it's ok but only if you are not hurting anyone. TOOL is rock band but it is not like Metallica or Slipknot so there's no need to be so angry and just kick and hit and overturn everyone...
5) Tickets - they are expensive but I think that concert gave us something more than 150 zł ...
So i just want to tell you that i enjoyed the show the way it was. I hope next will be better but it also depends from the audience.

tomash
06-25-2006, 06:21 AM
damn. poor sound? are you all nuts? live show is to melt your face and kick your ass... if you want some siesta, stay home and listen to the cd.
pogo, moshing, head-banging? fuck you pussys, at least that a rock show, everyone let's one's emotions out. if you don't, again, stay home.
lack of connection with the audience? well, it's just not a thing you expect from Tool. Maynard shouting "scream for me katowice?" ridiculous...
the audience? oh yeah there were loads of idiots who came ONLY to bang heads and crowd-surf. not knowing the lyrics? I know them all, i sang, it's not my problem...
pogo & clapping? Tool's rhythm is harldy ever 4/4, so it's hard to move rhythmically, but there's nothing wrong in clapping to intro to Lateralus - if you can fit, and many of us did. and for fuck's sake, wash your damn long hair. right when i came in there were only 'stinkheads' around me.
It was my first Tool gig and I'm amazed, although it was too short, and it was sometimes diffculy the hear vocals. But damn, it was great.
and no one mentioned funny things - they were drinking polish beer Zywiec while we sung "sto lat sto lat" - old polish birthday song. then justin used the zywiec bottle to improve his psychedelic sound... and that's the unforgettable aspect of the damn show...

krumkur
06-25-2006, 07:22 AM
it was not as good as in krakow in 2001 (the best concert i've ever seen) but it was also amazing. i'm in 10 000 pieces now waiting for november to put it all together.

spooky_queen
06-25-2006, 07:37 AM
this was my firts tool show..and i am impressed. surely, there was nothing special compared to all previous concerts on this tour (as far as setlist and length is concerned) , but the flow of energy from Tool was amazing. Jambi was a killer, it sounded better than i thought it might sound. as for the sound - to me it was good - i could hear everything (unlike on other concerts i've been to), tho bass was too strong in my opinion..YOu could feel it not even standing on the ground

maynard may not have been too talkative - he never is, but in the end a lot of stuff was being thrown into the crowd - drum sticks, bottles of water...and some round, frisbee-lookalike stuff.

what really blew me, was instant pogo-reply to first few tones of lost keys..but i have a theory about it - last time tool played here was 2002. we had no APC shows here, nothing...so those 4 years have been a long foreplay, intensified by the new album...so i would say, that yesterday, we've been experiencing a 1hr 40 mins long orgasm.

generally, i'm happy...but i do hope that maynard didn't lie about november, and i do hope that they will come here again soon. i'm patiently waiting.

spooky_queen
06-25-2006, 07:49 AM
I can't complain about the quality of the sound - for those who do - have you ever been in Stodola in Warsaw? After the (disastrous - in my opinion) Mars Volta concert last year I think it would take a total catastrophe to make me complain ;)

Not only mars volta...QOTSA was also crappy there, so comparing to this, i'd say that the sound was excellent


Maynard also seemed to enjoy himself ( I couldn't see correctly but I think he didn't have his cowboy hat with him). I coulnd't see Danny and Adam, apart from a couple of times, but that didn't ruin the show for me, I had a great time listening to the music.

Maynard did wear cowboy hat during Jambi. As for Adam - didn't move to much, so YOu didn't loose much ;)

spooky_queen
06-25-2006, 07:59 AM
Does anyone know what exactly is going to be in autumn this year? an european tour in November or sth?

there are no official dates, but reading other reviews from shows around Europe almost everywhere Maynard did say see You soon in september/november. there is hope!

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-25-2006, 08:23 AM
Here's my long 2 cents after seeing TOOL live in Katowice, PL.

PART 1

Got home at 4 am (Katowice to Warsaw), slept until 1pm today. Still have a slight buzzing/ringing sound in my ears which occasionally switches to a jackhammer-type pounding when I hear something loud.


This was my first TOOL show ever. the one major disappointment for me was our crowd. Some of you people were an utter disgrace.

1. I had people around me surprised that ISIS wasn't opening though this has been a widely-known fact for over 2 months now, so those people whom I told this were all like "aaaaaawwwww, what the f*ck?! They better make this the best, longest show ever!" which posed yet another problem...

2. ...The fact that the european dates are also warm-up shows. Literally NOBODY knew this. Every time, the conversation between another fan and me looked like this:

"gee, I hope they play Sober"
and I was like "they will"
they were like "how the fuck do you know"
and I'd be like "cause I know the whole setlist by heart, cause it's the same in every european country..."
and they were like "no way, how?"
and i'd be like "yeah, it's a warm-up tour, the show is only gonna be 1.5 hrs..."
and they were like "REALLY?!?!?! bullshit, I don't believe you..."

3. Because of that, the show ended, the lights came on, and people literally booed! I don't know where people pick up that kind of attitude, but those manners are totally unacceptable by standards of modern day ethics. It's just sad.

4. If it took a lot outta your wallet to pay 145 zł for the floor (yeah, it's a lot for Polish standards), then next time you may as well not go, because the argument that "I paid too much money for such a short show" is no justification for your behavior. You gave every other fan a bad name in front of a band whose life's work you SUPPOSEDLY appreciate. Next time, do the math, there's a bunch of english/polish forums and message boards where you can find information on shows, concerts, organisational changes and on the current state of setlists, average duration of a show, etc. They played Aenima, then left, the crowd cheered for more, then the lights came on and everybody went "AAAAAW! BOOOOOOO!" The nerve of some people. If it's too much for you to pay that sum of money to see a band and appreciate them, four words:

TOO BAD, YOUR LOSS.

I'm astounded at how much NEGATIVITY you people showed. After seeing TOOL. That is like the biggest paradox ever. You all know how positive the overall message of TOOL's music is, yet you're able to COMPLAIN after a decent TOOL show (because it was, at least decent, though I personally thing it was good). How does that work?!


Another party at fault was the organisational crew at METALMIND PRODUCTIONS. No partial cash returns after calling off ISIS, as well as hardly any information about the gig. First they said it was gonna be ISIS supporting, then, on their site, they changed it to "TOOL + special guest" and then they changed it to "An Evening With Tool". The floor at the Spodek Arena floor section was meant for 4000 people so guess what? They let 5000 people on the damn floor. I was WAY up front, right by the front metal bars, opposite Danny, the view was a DREAM. Justin came out ALONE in jogging pants and a navy polo T and went into Lost Keys, mostly messing with some knobs while on his knees. Then, out came Adam in an I *Rolling Stones Lips and tongue Logo* LA t-shirt, then Danny in a red LA Clippers uniform (the man could fight a bear, holy sh*t) and then, after a long wait, Maynard looking just like he did during every other show. The cowboy hat came later on.

Justin came out and that's when ALL HELL unleashed. 5000 people started pushing like crazy, I felt my ribcage was about to crack a couple of times, it was really dangerous. At one point, the bars started tipping over, at which point the security had to hold them up to keep them from tipping all the way. You've probably felt that at some concert where the venue was over-packed and every time people leaned up to one side, you wouldn't fall cuz people on the other side were like an elastic wall holding you up, and then that wall pushed back the other way. it's not even like moshing, it's worse, it was people pushing and shoving just for the fuck of getting to the front, it was pathetic, and I saw some guys having to LITERALLY brutally shove and punch people around them ON PURPOSE just to desperately pull their exhausted girlfriends/wives out of that hell-hole. I fully sympathise with you dudes, and I can understand that kind of aggression, because it was justified. Respect for saving your women, there was nothing else you could have done. Rosetta Stoned was a HORROR up front, could barely enjoy the song, I was busy fighting not to get killed. When it ended I thought "fuck this, I'm here for the songs not the view" and fought my way through Stinkfist just to get to the mid-rear section of the floor. The view was still okay, but the sound was much better and at least I was safe. I mean, I'm not that small, I'm 5"11 and 75 kg, but that was just TOO MUCH. I have a huge, bloody bruise on my back that's like 3cm wide and 30cm long (as if I got hit by a metal pole or something and I didn't even get hit by anything, it was just from the sheer force of the people pushing against me. I did get elbowed in the head a couple of times, which I still feel now, so to everybody intentionally chucking their elbows at my head, thanks a bunch. The floor was NOT a safe place to be and I am not going to think twice about getting good seats next time TOOL comes to play in Poland. I always mosh at like a Dillinger Escape Plan show or something like that, it's normal with them, but seriously.... BRUISES? AFTER A TOOL SHOW?!

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As for the show itself, the setlist was obviously the same and the DID NOT play the Pot. The sound was at about a 7 out of 10. Maynard never fucked up, he hit every note, the sound dude just didn't expose him as much as he should have in some parts.

The beginnig riff for Jambi was a bit off rhythm by Adam half way, but he got back on track for when the vocals come in. No gestures, no nothing, he just played, like always.

Justin is Justin, he had that whole "Me? Oh, just humping my bass, nothing much..." thing goin' on, lots of energy, awesome playing, nailed everything, absolutely KILLED the uber-fast Schism brigde, as did Daniel.

Dan was on fire, everything was played perfectly, didn't notice any mess-ups, though some things need to be mentioned. In plus, his kick drums were more audible than on any record, though at the same time, in minus, his snares were a bit too guiet and a tad "flat-sounding". The tabla part in Right In Two turned out great, and over-all, can't say anything bad about the playing of all 3 guys and the same goes for Maynards singing. Dan threw out some stichs and drum tops after the show.

Maynard changed up some parts to throw in a little variety, sang some bits with a different intonation than on the records. Basically, the arena's sound system is what needed polishing, not the band's execution of the music.

The visuals were far from stunning, because aside from the videos, they're just a bunch of colorful morphing effects like the ones in Windows Media Player except higher resolution and better quality. The Indian/Asian lady in Jambi with the zombified eyes and the flame on her forehead wasn't as breathtaking as I though it would be, and the blinking white lights when Maynard sings "black and white are all I see" in Lateralus, followed by red and yellow lights when he sings the "red and yellow" part was kinda cheesy. In conclusion, the visuals really did seem like a warm-up setup, just basic computer generated visual processing, and were far from being as stunning as what I've seen on bootlegs of the LATERALUS 2002 US-tour.

Maynard left out a significant part of Sober for the crowd to sing and as far as I could hear around me, everyone sang the words perfectly.

What rattkin said is worth mentioning again, the jams in between some songs were really beautiful, especially the mellow one before Vicarious, cause the one before Right In Two was just a short, no-lyrics version of Intension. Adam and Maynard both played on their keyboards. I think there was one before Stinkfist too, and the one before Sober was not one that resembled Merkaba, but rather a heavily distorted droning that was AWESOME for me, though hard to bear for some people around me (covering their ears) as it was really loud and all it was was a slowly pulsating HIGHLY distorted sound that lasted about 2-3 minutes. It was played by Justin, because it went dead a second before he started the bassline for the beginning of Sober.

Also, I agree very much with what rattkin said in that some people didn't get the whole 5 minute sitting break that the guys do 3/4 through the show. People were surprised, and reacted curiously, which could have been avoided if they'd just done their homework and checked that this is what the guys do every single show.


PART 2 below.

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-25-2006, 08:24 AM
PART 2


For a wrm-up show, this concert was PROMISING, as a stand-alone TOOL gig (which it wasn't because it was a warm-up gig, duh:), it was merely GOOD.

Indeed, the only Maynardisms were "Good evening" after Rosetta Stoned, and "Thank you very much, we'll see you soon, hopefully in November" after Vicarious and then instantly went into "hey hey hey hey hey hey...".


I loved the concert itself, I'm happy to have met some really cool people along the way, and was very pleasantly surprised because I thought that, even though the sound wasn't all that amazing and clearly needed polishing, I will now always assess the TOOL sound based on LIVE performances. The album sound is great, but nothing and no one will EVER top a band of this magnitude LIVE. It had that special something that the album version's sound will never capture, no matter what band, what song, and what technology comes along. It's LIVE, it's REAL, it has SOUL POWER.

As Lateralus started (the most awaited track for me, basically I'd have paid for them to come and play that one track alone just the way they played it, just the wayI dreamed for them to play it) I was on a spiritual plateau I have never before attained in my whole life.

When Dan hit that gong (it sounded PERFECT, it was EARTH-SHATTERING), it was the most amazing feeling I have ever felt, and at that very moment, all my frustrations and all my worries disappeared, and I felt cleansed. a day and 8 hours of sleep after, I feel my life has taken on new meaning. I can't help but feel anything but positivity and compassion.


I feel obliged to personally thank four particular guys for this feeling.

leia
06-25-2006, 08:34 AM
First I was angry that Maynard didn't talk a lot. I thought he regarded us as a dumb non-english-speaking pack of wolves... and your posts here makes me almost sure about it ;)

My best moment was during aenema when security poured really huge amounts of water on us- my prayers for rain were at last granted ;)

as for yours opinion that previous gigs were much better- well, we all feed on older tool's albums, it's obvious we want to hear them...

xerd
06-25-2006, 08:49 AM
Ludzie tak naprawdę to z tym pogo była przeginka. Większość skupienia szła na to by się na nogach utrzymać i nie zostać zdeptanym niż na słuchaniu muzyki to raz. Jak wszyscy zaczynali skakać to się gubiło rytm i ogólna kicha wychodziła po chwili.
Mam nadzieje że na jesieni będzie spokojniej bo chciałbym posłuchać muzy a nie walczyć ze wszystkimi dookoła.

P.S.
W połowie koncertu jakoś gdy wszyscy skakali uderzyłem barkiem jakąś dziewczynę. Sorry to było przypadkowe.

redbox
06-25-2006, 08:59 AM
Ma ktoś jakieś materiały audio/video ?

A i ten sektor E czerwony zajebisty był ;)

spooky79
06-25-2006, 09:28 AM
I loved the concert itself, I'm happy to have met some really cool people along the way, and was very pleasantly surprised because I thought that, even though the sound wasn't all that amazing and clearly needed polishing, I will now always assess the TOOL sound based on LIVE performances. The album sound is great, but nothing and no one will EVER top a band of this magnitude LIVE. It had that special something that the album version's sound will never capture, no matter what band, what song, and what technology comes along. It's LIVE, it's REAL, it has SOUL POWER.

As Lateralus started (the most awaited track for me, basically I'd have paid for them to come and play that one track alone just the way they played it, just the wayI dreamed for them to play it) I was on a spiritual plateau I have never before attained in my whole life.

When Dan hit that gong (it sounded PERFECT, it was EARTH-SHATTERING), it was the most amazing feeling I have ever felt, and at that very moment, all my frustrations and all my worries disappeared, and I felt cleansed. a day and 8 hours of sleep after, I feel my life has taken on new meaning. I can't help but feel anything but positivity and compassion.

I'm totally with you on this one. I tried to write something like that in an earlier post, but You have put it much better. I will not describe in detail how much this show meant for me, but yes i do feel my life has taken on a new meaning now. Especially thanks to Sober, but not that i'm gonna go sober now or something. It's something deeper, it's the more general cleansing effect it all has put upon me...

Breathe in union...

centaur
06-25-2006, 09:44 AM
a few quick coments:

1) was it too short?

NO. I think 90-100 minutes only whets a listener's appetite, plus this is not san remo festical, this is Tool music, too much emotions might kill...

2) is it ok that Maynard stood in the back?

YES. it is very original and fits in well with the whole image of the band

3) Was the audience ok?

Yes it was, they sang the "big" songs with MJK, if they did not sing with him during aenima itwas probably because they did not expect it cause generally there was little interaction - which is also ok. I hate singer's rambling during the concerts.

4) was the acoustics ok?

no, it was a bit too loud. when you have music so loud all the subtleties of tool music are less aparent

5) did the band pay well?

Yes, they were amazing!!
all in all a great show with only small drawbacks

centaur
06-25-2006, 09:46 AM
please write your favorite songs from the show.

for me it was stinkfist, jambi (MJK dancing was an amazing sight) and Vicarious - Vicarious is a monster live!!!

xerd
06-25-2006, 09:59 AM
rosetta stoned and sober :D
btw many ppl were smoking the pot ;) but tool didn't play it...

redbox
06-25-2006, 10:36 AM
rosseta stoned, stinkfist and jambi

Manica
06-25-2006, 11:19 AM
Aenima

And, Redbox, after standing on the floor, I'm really jealous about your (now I know that) great seats :)

rattkin
06-25-2006, 12:28 PM
Nice review back there, Chuck. But regarding to "You all know how positive the overall message of TOOL's music is" - erm... don't want to burst your bubble, but have you listened to lyrics of 10k days? :) Quite opposite of what i call "positive", hehe.

joanna69
06-25-2006, 12:43 PM
PO pierwsze: czemu piszemy po angielsku skoro wszyscy jestesmy polakami i nikt zza granicy nie interesuje sie tym co przezylismy ;) PO 2 : najlepsze : Sober, Aenema i Right in Two :)

redbox
06-25-2006, 12:58 PM
PO pierwsze: czemu piszemy po angielsku skoro wszyscy jestesmy polakami i nikt zza granicy nie interesuje sie tym co przezylismy ;) PO 2 : najlepsze : Sober, Aenema i Right in Two :)

No racja w sumie ;)

Pytam po raz drugi znalazł ktoś lub ma jakieś zdjęcia,filmy,audio z koncertu ?

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-25-2006, 01:06 PM
REPLY TO POST #58

I understand, rattkin, the lyrics may not seem positive if you take them LITERALLY, but read the sentence again:

"You all know how positive the overall message of TOOL's music is"

The OVERALL message.

This implies that:

1. I'm not referring to just the lyrics of one album.

2. I beleive that even though they have dubbed this their "blues album" the lyrics require us to READ BETWEEN THE LINES.

Maynard even says it in Aenima, a song that some people might take as violent and horrific until they understand the message it carries. The might say "What? so yeah, there's something wrong with that place so you think the best solution is for it to be put out of existence? Just "flush" it down, is that the answer to all the bad things there like the junkies and the lust for money and the cult fanatics like Hubbard and the superficial things peope care too much about like their morning Latte and their contract and their car? Wow, Maynard, you have a problem! you're violent and angry, you want to deal with stuff by destroying it and making it disappear!"

This is a way of looking at the lyrics LITERALLY.

Then Maynard comes along and says this:

"Don't just call me pessimist. Try and read between the lines."

Therefore, I gather he doesn't really accept this as the proper method to rid LA of the evil that embraces it, he is merely hoping for change, and sometimes people seek violent methods to carry out a plan, hence the praying for rain which would lead to tidal waves, but that's like someone who gets angry at someone who just pissed them off and says: "Oh yeah? Well fuck you, I hope you get hit by an 18-wheeler, asshole!" when what he really meant was "Damn, dude, you really got me angry, why would you say saomething like that? It really got to me...".

Get my point?

Aside from that, even if I were to talk about just that one album, 10 000 DAYS does, in my opinion, put forward a positive message OVERALL.

Yes, sure, Vicarious and Right in Two both talk about certain negative phenomena, but to me, they wouldn't just write a song about something negative and say "Look how bad some things are."

The true intention in my opinion is more like: "Do you see how bad some things are? Now THINK about it."

Thanks for the input, I hope I explained my point thoroughly.

joanna69
06-25-2006, 01:06 PM
są na onecie : http://muzyka.onet.pl/10174,35410,0,1,galerie.html

Bązo
06-25-2006, 01:09 PM
No, it wasn't my first show. Never again. 10 hours' journey standing at the back of the train for what? 1:30 gig? No support? Thank you. ANd writing stuff like "it's tool music. too much emotin blah blah blah" Oh, come on. Don't give me no crap like that. I've been at two Mars volta shows, and they have songs like 32 minutes. And they play with any pauses for 240 minutes. I've been a Tool fan for 10 years, and most of you probably know only Lateralus. Warm-up gig or not, I'm not going to repeat it. They are old, they played their singles, it's like me goin' to work. Routine. nothing special. No emotions. Let's do it and go home. That is so not fair, concerning 4 great albums. Sound was awful (and I've been to concerts in Europe, so I know how it should sound), and the people didn't sing not because of the lyrics - they just didn't hear Maynard. Pogo? yeah, too much of that either. Mars Volta nicely put it once - "Dance, means not to hurt each other". I think it's my last tool show for a long time now. I just lost interest in it. I prefer my 30 video shows from '91-'98. That was Tool I like and remember from the old days. Peace.
And stop insulting Polish people. O gustach sie nie dyskutuje. Some may like and some don't. that's the truth. Kraków 2001 to było to, i wtedy miało sens podniecać się po wyjściu jak dla mnie.
Jak siekomuś podobało, i było wg niego najlepiej na świecie, to gratuluję, i oby wiecej takich przeżyć. ja jużswoje kilka miałem. To kwestia porównania. Bywało lepiej z Toolem na koncertach.

datainstinct
06-25-2006, 01:10 PM
PART 2


For a wrm-up show, this concert was PROMISING, as a stand-alone TOOL gig (which it wasn't because it was a warm-up gig, duh:), it was merely GOOD.

Indeed, the only Maynardisms were "Good evening" after Rosetta Stoned, and "Thank you very much, we'll see you soon, hopefully in November" after Vicarious and then instantly went into "hey hey hey hey hey hey...".


I loved the concert itself, I'm happy to have met some really cool people along the way, and was very pleasantly surprised because I thought that, even though the sound wasn't all that amazing and clearly needed polishing, I will now always assess the TOOL sound based on LIVE performances. The album sound is great, but nothing and no one will EVER top a band of this magnitude LIVE. It had that special something that the album version's sound will never capture, no matter what band, what song, and what technology comes along. It's LIVE, it's REAL, it has SOUL POWER.

As Lateralus started (the most awaited track for me, basically I'd have paid for them to come and play that one track alone just the way they played it, just the wayI dreamed for them to play it) I was on a spiritual plateau I have never before attained in my whole life.

When Dan hit that gong (it sounded PERFECT, it was EARTH-SHATTERING), it was the most amazing feeling I have ever felt, and at that very moment, all my frustrations and all my worries disappeared, and I felt cleansed. a day and 8 hours of sleep after, I feel my life has taken on new meaning. I can't help but feel anything but positivity and compassion.


I feel obliged to personally thank four particular guys for this feeling.

Mordercza precyzja a opisy wzrostu, wagi, rozmiaru uszkodzeń ciała - pycha - opis wrażeń - miód. Rozumiem, ze mogło Ci się podobać że zagrali wyrachowane , zaplanowane, ustalone, profesjonalne 150 minut. - gdzie tam 150, moze 90

redbox
06-25-2006, 01:18 PM
są na onecie : http://muzyka.onet.pl/10174,35410,0,1,galerie.html

Ale tam już każdy zaglądał... Chcę nowych ;)

lukash9
06-25-2006, 01:41 PM
It was my first Tool concert. The sound was imho not very good but acceptable. Jams between tracks were awesome, especially that one before Vicarious.

And extended version of Schism... Great evening.

wojt
06-25-2006, 02:23 PM
here is some photo links:

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/kloozkha/Tool%20czerwiec/?start=0

and:

http://miasta.gazeta.pl/katowice/1,35019,3441534.html

zmrol
06-25-2006, 02:38 PM
btw- i wos siting on one of hightes sectors and i saw funy things- in best moments of "the" koncert on flore (niewiem jak sie pisze plyta :>) lights in cameras starts glittering :d

kogoot
06-25-2006, 02:48 PM
FUCKING GREAT!! Amzaing show as always!!

bzx
06-25-2006, 02:48 PM
1. i stood just beside the technicians' console, "sweet-spot" i guess, and the sound was good, every instrument easily recognizable. but i agree that it could be worse in other areas, i was on my way to my standing point when they started the show, and i could *hear* the difference when i got to the middle.

2. too many people in the arena, it was impossible to move even in the back, from what i've read here it could be dangerous to stand closer to the scene... it's always like that in such large venues, but seems like this concert was way too packed.

3. no supporting band - this sucked.

4. overall, i enjoyed the show. i'll never regret any TOOL show. personally i like smaller gigs, and the one in Krakow, back in 2001, was better.

thank you TOOL and see you in novermber, hopefully.



PS

-- this is an English-spoken forum, that's why we should write in English. those who do not understand that fact are ignorant. i support Chuck_Of_Wah post.

-- so many posts about TOOL fans who did not know the lyrics - now excuse me but this is just bullshit. if you go to a TOOL concert (or any other concert) to make judgments about other people based on how well they know the lyrics, then you must be seriously fucked. and if you go to a TOOL concert (or any other concert) to show other people how much better fan you are because you know the lyrics and they don't, then you must be completely fucked. besides, i don't like when someone tries to imitate the singer and screams words into my ear.

-- did anyone notice poor quality of the ticket? printed on the paper, not the cardboard, as it's usually done for big concerts.. for this price of the ticket i should expect something nicer as a souvenir.. don't you think? and this ticket looks like it could be counterfeited..

GeorgeinNY
06-25-2006, 02:58 PM
just to make a comment, yeah believe it or not non-Polish speaking peoples read these comments too, so Im sure they appreciate that you use English.

Here is something interesting that Danny said in that interview: "Teraz czekają nas jakieś dwa lata koncertów, potem rok przerwy i pewnie nowa płyta. Taki jest plan. Choć mam nadzieję, że nagramy ją wcześniej. Z drugiej strony nie ma sensu niczego na siłę przyśpieszać. " which translated means 2 next years on tour, a years break and then a new album, though he hopes new album will be out sooner....

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-25-2006, 03:12 PM
-- this is an English-spoken forum, that's why we should write in English. those who do not understand that fact are ignorant. i support Chuck_Of_Wah post.

-- so many posts about TOOL fans who did not know the lyrics - now excuse me but this is just bullshit. if you go to a TOOL concert (or any other concert) to make judgments about other people based on how well they know the lyrics, then you must be seriously fucked. and if you go to a TOOL concert (or any other concert) to show other people how much better fan you are because you know the lyrics and they don't, then you must be completely fucked. besides, i don't like when someone tries to imitate the singer and screams words into my ear.

-- did anyone notice poor quality of the ticket? printed on the paper, not the cardboard, as it's usually done for big concerts.. for this price of the ticket i should expect something nicer as a souvenir.. don't you think? and this ticket looks like it could be counterfeited..


I agree, it's pretty selfish to judge someone just because they don't know the lyrics. Tool always says to read the lyrics later on, to pay attention to the music. Well what if someone was new to TOOL? Let them enjoy the music, who cares if they don't know the lyrics.

Yeah, the ticket was poor quality, but I have a different problem with the ticket than you do:) If tickets are on thick rough paper that resembles cardboard, they usually have a hologram and just the concert information PRINTED on it, I saw a ticket of today's show, my friend had it, he's in Prague now probably after the show. anyway, the ticket had no graphics, Just info: TOOL - Prague CZ and some dates and seat and sector numbers.

What *I* didn't like was that they made the graphics of our Spodek ticket look like shit, because if you hold the licket so that the letters say "tool" right side up, the two blue eyes on the sides (from the lateralus artwork) are upside down. Obviously the thing was designed by someone who wasn't familiar with TOOL's album art. also, the font for "TOOL" was from the lateralus era and so was the background graphics BUT this is all understandable, because when the tickets went on sale, and when they were printed, the current artwork and fonts from 10 000 DAYS had not yet been revealed. No one knew what they were going to look like. So the thing for me is that not only is the ticket on cheap paper, but it also looks cheap, but that's MetalMind for ya ;)

Bober
06-25-2006, 03:59 PM
The show was awesome!!!
I was in the middle of the floor and sound was good, maybe a bit to loud. People around me were singing all the time, sometimes I couldn't even hear Maynard.

However, next time I will buy ticket for a seat, because stupid behaviour of some people interrupts the experience.

Great moment - during Aenema when "and I'm praying for..." started - all hands up and crowd singing.

Highlight - Lateralus

spooky_queen
06-25-2006, 10:14 PM
1. I had people around me surprised that ISIS wasn't opening though this has been a widely-known fact for over 2 months now, so those people whom I told this were all like "aaaaaawwwww, what the f*ck?! They better make this the best, longest show ever!" which posed yet another problem...

2. ...The fact that the european dates are also warm-up shows. Literally NOBODY knew this. Every time, the conversation between another fan and me looked like this:

"gee, I hope they play Sober"
and I was like "they will"
they were like "how the fuck do you know"
and I'd be like "cause I know the whole setlist by heart, cause it's the same in every european country..."
and they were like "no way, how?"
and i'd be like "yeah, it's a warm-up tour, the show is only gonna be 1.5 hrs..."
and they were like "REALLY?!?!?! bullshit, I don't believe you..."

PART 2 below.

i'm totally with You on this one. i just couldn't believe people just didn't do their homework! the concert to me was exactly what i have expected it to be, cuz i read the f**king manual - i took a few minutes to read reviews of other concerts, so i learned how it's gonna be like and i knew it's going to be a warm up...

but of course, polish crowd thought Tool is U2, and their gonna do a special 3hr show especially for us, the chosen ones...DUH!

datainstinct
06-25-2006, 10:16 PM
You still don't get the point dude. I'll write it out in syllables for you, maybe it will help that I'll only use one-syllable words:


IT - WAS - A - WARM - UP - SHOW



Another thing. Do you know what a setlist is for?

It exists because something that seems so simple to you that you decide to take it for granted, some things, like planning a worldwide tour need *calculation* (wyrachowanie), so that the musicians know the order of their set, so that it is *planned out* (zaplanowane), so that they stick to a *fixed* timeline (ustalone) because they have to be in Prague a couple hundred kilometers away the very next fucking day (which you clearly don't give two shits about), so that they don't fuck anything up because they have been doing it for over 15 years and it would look kind of silly if they did (profesjonalne).


They were not going to play longer, this was obvious, it was a well known fact and if you were disappointed, it's because you did not know that the only thing you could expect from this concert was a warm-up show. I'm not going to be the one to force you out of the damn closet, but if you had THOUGHT for just 10 seconds, maybe youd have come to toolnavy earlier, you'd have seen what the warm-up shows looked like and you caould have said "No, this is not worth it, it's a short, 90minute warm-up show, not for this money, too expensive".

Even with ISIS, after it turned out they were not going to play, and after it turned out there would be no support group at all, you could have sold the ticket easily online.

Don't blame TOOL for the fact that YOU didn't feel like doing your homework.

Next time, get off your negative complaining ass and THINK.


Nie proponuj nikomu by myślał, to niegrzeczne. Koncert był warty każdego złotego, spędziełem weekend w samochodzie pokonując dystans z/do Gdańska by na nim być. I nie żałuję. Rozbawił mnie jedynie Twój chirurgiczny opis. To wszystko. Szlifuj angielski ;)

spooky_queen
06-25-2006, 10:47 PM
Justin came out and that's when ALL HELL unleashed. 5000 people started pushing like crazy, I felt my ribcage was about to crack a couple of times, it was really dangerous. At one point, the bars started tipping over, at which point the security had to hold them up to keep them from tipping all the way. You've probably felt that at some concert where the venue was over-packed and every time people leaned up to one side, you wouldn't fall cuz people on the other side were like an elastic wall holding you up, and then that wall pushed back the other way. it's not even like moshing, it's worse, it was people pushing and shoving just for the fuck of getting to the front, it was pathetic, and I saw some guys having to LITERALLY brutally shove and punch people around them ON PURPOSE just to desperately pull their exhausted girlfriends/wives out of that hell-hole.




this was my biggest disappointment. before buying the tickets i tried to learn from people which place is the best. some recommended sitting sectors, some recommended standing sector..i thought that Tool is not a pogo band so i chose standing sector.this was a huge mistake. me and my husband managed to get out of this crazy crowd aroung 46&2 and we found a safe place at the back, a bit to the left - there was a good view and a lot of space and air so we could comfortably watch the show instead of trying to survive it...that's why i dont get this crazy-dance'n'jump'n'kick everyone attitude - i want to see the show not survive it.

so i learned my lesson and i'm buing the seats next time

not_okay
06-26-2006, 02:35 AM
Well well well...

To all you complaining about the sound quality: next time pick up a pair of ear plugs and you'll be fine, the sound was crystal clear to me even with the somewhat muddy bass.

I was kind of disappointed that they didn't play 'the pot' and that maynard was back to his old 'don't give a fuck about the croud' attitude. then again with all the fucked up piece of shit moshers in the audience - i think they fucking deserved it. moshing to tool songs = totally missing the point.

It sucked that the stage was so low, im not a short guy but from the floor all i could see was the top 1/3 of the screens and an occasional danny carey :)

So, all in all, the band performance was spot on, too bad the 'fans' didn't get it. oh well.

stoPMe
06-26-2006, 02:35 AM
Ok - few cents from me.
1. my 2nd TOOL show (last one was Warsaw)
2. LK/RS had a little bit less impact live than I expected. just a little bit. ;)
3. they played 46&2 - that made me sooo happy
4. jambi IS a great live song (enjoyed it more than on the album acutally) - and from what I heard he's rather singing "Damn my eyes", but it's weird, so I dunno...
5. the intro before sober sounded a bit like faaip thing for me - nice!
6. during sober, the visuals contained more material than on video (there was some cool tattoed chest or something like this) - is this something new or I just missed sth?
7. the band having a break onstage - never seen it before and I totally liked it :)
8. during vicarious I got the idea that the lyrics were tuned up a little bit and sounded clearer - this song has great live feeling (oh and the very simple effect of putting "tv-noise" on the screens did the trick for me!)
9. although I was totally tuned to hear the new songs live, I must admit that aenima must have been the best performed song that evening - I almost clapped a hole in my laps (had a sitting place)

Here's exactly what (from my real-time notes) MJK said:
1. (between LK/RS and stinkfist): "Good evening"
2. (before aenima): "Thanks very much. See you soon. Hopefully in November".

And few words about Sober. I liked the way MJK left the chorus with holes for fans to sing, but I noticed one thing. During (I guess) 2nd chorus he sang like: "Why.... I just.... MOMMY, Why.... I just....". Maybe it was "TELL ME" but it felt like "MOMMY". Wonder why... :)

Summing up - TOOL's TOOL. They never dissapoint, Unless you expect to see a Linkin Park or Metallica show. ;) I paid a lot of cash for the ticket (around $80 + train + longsleeve with "THE eye" ;)) but I'd known it was coming and I was ready. So I just spent my cash. Period.

Cheers.

spooky79
06-26-2006, 03:33 AM
Well well well...
To all you complaining about the sound quality: next time pick up a pair of ear plugs and you'll be fine, the sound was crystal clear to me even with the somewhat muddy bass.

What kind of earplugs would you recommend? I saw someone with just small balls of cotton in their ears - i don't know if it's enough or not... I don't think that typical swimming earplugs are ok, because they're too hermetic - they only pass low frequencies, which were already very strong.

'Thanks from the mountain' for your advice :)

rattkin
06-26-2006, 03:46 AM
Whoa, definitely hot place here... see how tool fans react :). All in all Chuck makes a good summaries in-between, so worth reading.

"during vicarious I got the idea that the lyrics were tuned up a little bit and sounded clearer - this song has great live feeling (oh and the very simple effect of putting "tv-noise" on the screens did the trick for me!)"

Ouch... sorry, pal, this is the video from aenima tour. Pretty old :). in 2001 it was played to 46'n'2 (in Warsaw) and to Swamp Song (in Krakow) - for which it was originally made, I suspect.

"from what I heard he's rather singing "Damn my eyes", but it's weird, so I dunno..."

Jambi - I'm gonna bet :P

As for ticket design - please remember that they were designed and printed before official TTD artwork has been released. They planned to release tickets as soon as possible (stupid and dunno why, but they for sure got reasons), so that's why the old (pretty lame yes, but ok when compared to ozzfest 2002 ticket :P) design happened.

Commenting about negative transimttal in TTD, I was rather joking. Catching the overall message in TOOL albums is rather fishy. You could for sure say, that whole Lateralus brings very positive feeling. Aenima just stay cryptic, and you can interpret it whatever way you like (Pushit could be positive or negative after all, depends on the light you see it in). TTD is more "the world is going down, so sad, but, uh, we don't really care, do we?" message. Definitely a blues album, where the pain is somewhat put. But then again MJK attitude change abit too. He stated in recent reviews that until Lateralus he believed that collective conscious, knowledge and cooperation can lift us up. But unfortunately he is not ths way anymore. And this has it's reflection in TTD.

It's not a place for such disscusion anyway, so let's EOT and focus on concert reviews.

stoPMe
06-26-2006, 05:08 AM
rattkin: thanks for info - mustave been high at Warsaw concert ;)
rattkin2: about "Jambi I" - I won't bet, cause I sat further from you probably :)
to all those who counted for more light effects than music itself: maybe tool should hire naked jugglers to perform onstage to sattisfy you? :o

oh and one more thing. there was this guy sitting in a row behind me. every "more popular" song (stinkfist/sober) he started pounding his head off and smashing the table (there were actually small tables at each seat) with his fists. goddamn - it felt like each time he was trying to break the table either with his fists or his head. luckily some woman talked to his senses before I got to him.
I mean - when you buy an expensive seat at the concert, you'll probably wanna enjoy the show with full view and hopefully-not-so-shitty sound. why then one would get so horny on start of a song he knows, that he looses control over his limbs and creates so much noise that even a band itself acts as a background.
but then - maybe he got the ticket for free...

spooky79
06-26-2006, 06:40 AM
I mean - when you buy an expensive seat at the concert, you'll probably wanna enjoy the show with full view and hopefully-not-so-shitty sound. why then one would get so horny on start of a song he knows, that he looses control over his limbs and creates so much noise that even a band itself acts as a background.
but then - maybe he got the ticket for free...

I bet that guy's third eye must have looked like a giant asshole. Why? Because he's got shit instead of brains inside his head.

But actually when i saw those tables in the front of each row of seats i immediately remembered the times when i studied and sat in hot, stinky auditoriums listening to boring lectures... Luckily this was something completely different.

TOOLEK
06-26-2006, 07:52 AM
My first Tool show and hopefully not the last (I hope what Maynard said will become true). I was driving 5 hours to get to Katowice and when I got there all I saw were Tool fans who were everywhere. Tool fans differ a lot, I must say (although, perhaps not all of them were real Tool fans, cause some acted not like I wished, surely the rpice of the tiockets made a lot of Tool fans stay at home). The concert to me was great, the only thing I didn't like was the fact that it was too hot and too crowdy on the "floor", some people were fainting, pushing each other, walking everywhere and it took me a lot from the concert as an experience. Some say the sound was bad, but to me the sound smacked me in the head. The setlist was:
Lost Keys (great because of the continuous hooting sound, which I thought they don't play live)
Rosetta Stoned (however Maynard didn't do his scream after sunkist and sudafed part, which is a pity)
Stinkfist (fucking great)
Forty Six and two
Jambi (it's so great live, what a sound)
Schism (which was extended and had a faster part at the end of the song)
Then I suppose but I'm not sure, thay had a small break during which they were just sitting and looking at the Arena. Maynard was lying on the floor)
Right in two (and before a small Intension intro)
Sober (before which they played something psychodelic similar to Merkaba)
Lateralus (what a powerful song!! like the wind blowin into Your face)
Vicarious (the song I liked the least)
Aenema which is great!
Maynard only said Good evening, and at the end mentioned Novemeber as a hopeful date for the next gig. Danny was great as everywhere, Justin played in his usual orgasmic way, Adam was also flawless and calm and Maynard to me sang well, although he missed some parts but he's only human. I enjoyed this concert very much. I only regret it was so short and not so metaphyiscal as I always imagined it would be. But I hope for the next one to be the fulfillment of this dream.

Kamil
06-26-2006, 08:19 AM
Hi everyone,

I have been to the Tool's gig for the first time and I really enjoyed it.I agree that there were some bad sides,but generally the show was wonderful.Becouse as you can see I'm newbie I would like to ask a question.I just wonder what does it mean that concert is a worm-up show and how to recognize it?Is it that such a gig is just a kind of worm-up before more important shows?And which gigs are important for the band in this tour?I think that Roskilde Festival and other fetivals are.

rattkin
06-26-2006, 08:52 AM
It's 'warm-up', which means that the band still experiment and learn how to perform on new tour and how to play songs from new album. That's the reason why the concert is rather short and hmmm lack of energy. But that's the way Tool tours.

So it's not based on place or scene-importance, but rather on time passed since first show. Generally, you could say that after a year from album release you can hope for smashing gig. Having this in mind, the price for the ticket is still unbelievable :)

Kamil
06-26-2006, 09:18 AM
Thanks Rattkin.

"worm-up" - I'm so stupid ;p

aneke
06-26-2006, 09:29 AM
it was my first gtools gig and it was magic for me..
after gig 6 persons were invited backstage, 5+me, to meet maynard :))

here's his autograph:

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2749/autograf7dl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i will remember that day till rest of my life and i dont care that sound was f.cked up :D

spooky_queen
06-26-2006, 10:10 AM
it was my first gtools gig and it was magic for me..
after gig 6 persons were invited backstage, 5+me, to meet maynard :))

here's his autograph:

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2749/autograf7dl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i will remember that day till rest of my life and i dont care that sound was f.cked up :D

Wow!! You're so lucky...how come? when did YOU go there ? where were You? ...i mean...what do YOu have to do to get backstage?

aneke
06-26-2006, 10:24 AM
I was standin in first row in the middle and there was a really nice guy , bands bodyguard in black t-shirt, some of u maybe remember, him he was givin us water all the time..
and when tool was playin schism he came to me and put sth in my hand and shout into my ear "do u wanna meet the band" I could not believe it!!! actually i still cant :)

After gig he took us backstage, we hoped that we can meet whole band but just maynard showed up .. well, i can live with that :D

we had conversation bout tool , apc, puscifer, his vineyard, and other stuff.. he was askin us where r we from, what we do in our life etc.. some of things i cant tell u, sry i made a promise :D

Maynard was kinda tired, but he stayed as long as he could, he was very polite and almost wispher when he talked with us.

it was really amazing, im gonna die happy now :D

spooky_queen
06-26-2006, 10:44 AM
I was standin in first row in the middle and there was a really nice guy , bands bodyguard in black t-shirt, some of u maybe remember, him he was givin us water all the time..
and when tool was playin schism he came to me and put sth in my hand and shout into my ear "do u wanna meet the band" I could not believe it!!! actually i still cant :)


gosh You are so lucky! i really envy You this chance...when i entered spodek, there was already no place in the first raw,and i had to run away somewhere to the back to survive...i'm in two minds now, maybe i should have risked my life to get to maynard?

Caputokey
06-26-2006, 11:22 AM
Rating would be:

Katowice: 5/10
London 13th June: 7/10
London 14th June: 9/10

bzx
06-26-2006, 11:33 AM
That's true no one knew the lyrics...
That's true there was too many "non-tool fans"...
That's true there was no comunication between band and crowd (impossible to compare with london gigs)...
I wouldn't be suprised if they don't show up in Poland again...

By the way... I was hoping to meet them, so I took my aenima LP with me... Unfortunatly no chance of getting the autograph...

One more thing: People called "tool fans" wearing fake TOOL t-shirts... 70% of fans were wearing tool t-shirts... 90% of them were fake... This is absolutely stupid to stand in the first row, wearing this shit... It's like spitting on the band...

All I can say is: forgive us... Next time choose really small venue, and prepare really expensive tickets..


...

another selfish, subjective, judgemental "true TOOL fan". did you wear your super expensive GENUINE TOOL t-shirt to show off to everyone how cool you are? did you sing all the songs perfectly with Maynard, did you feel special this way, did you feel better than the others? you sure did, you little hooker with a penis.

stay out of this place with such comments.
go away and don't come back.

grabtool
06-26-2006, 12:34 PM
my third tool gig in poland. this time not in Tool t-shirt, which by some people posting here is considered non-Kosher, but well, their problem it is. enjoyed the gig enormously and hope to see you guys soon!

xball
06-26-2006, 01:44 PM
Yep guyz it was my first show and this time was amazing perhaps it was a luckiest day of my short music life ;) I was meet Adam Jones face to face! He's touristic walk around Katowice with his woman I saw him and talk "hello Adam, welcome in Poland " to him and something more in my crapp English ;] I please for photo He's said " Ok, but quickly" and we did a photo but unfortunelly my friend broke this photo in cause of huger nervous situation :((( nothing is that sad as may be ;) ... Adama gives us a autograph at my ticket! At last I regardz him a good show in our country :) It was amazing for me to meet this man, these guy is my music idol What about better starta of Tool's gig? ;) Ok pepz Here iz a oryginal Adam Jones sign at my ticket I can't believe logn time after but it was true, not a dream My third eye was opened ') Sorry for my creep lenguage skills ;]

Adam Jones autograph at my ticket:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2306/ticketwithadamautograph6ni.jpg

red231
06-26-2006, 03:08 PM
damn..is that really? only a few guys e.g Spooky79 or B52 can understand what does TOOL mean!!!!!poor sound, poor interaction????

Get the fuck your brains repaired, listen to Green Day next time you TOOL funs...

It was my second gig, same amazing as the first one.

Spooky79 and B52 - you make me feel I'm not alone..

rattkin
06-26-2006, 03:44 PM
If someone need a true valid measurment about how many emotions polish tool fans put into, check the this reviews section at toolnavy. Most gigs haven't crossed the barrier of one page, and we are at 3rd already. Just noticed. Creepy.

spooky_queen
06-26-2006, 10:26 PM
damn..is that really? only a few guys e.g Spooky79 or B52 can understand what does TOOL mean!!!!!poor sound, poor interaction????

Get the fuck your brains repaired, listen to Green Day next time you TOOL funs...

It was my second gig, same amazing as the first one.

Spooky79 and B52 - you make me feel I'm not alone..


the 3 of You are not alone, but the 4 of us are a bit lonely...me and Spooky79 went to this gig together and we couldn't believe our ears - so many people had still expected ISIS to play!! and let me just roll my eyes over this stupid booing the crowd has made just as the concert finished...as i wrote some posts ago - only a few did their homework, learned how this tour looks like...only a few knew what kind of interaction to expect...only a few..sad but true.

mantral
06-26-2006, 11:16 PM
my 4th TOOL show in Poland, 23rd in total... still awsome...

spooky79
06-26-2006, 11:25 PM
my 4th TOOL show in Poland, 23rd in total... still awsome...

Geez mate, where are You from? :) When have you started, do you have a full list? :) I'd gladly see it. Respect!

Eniak
06-26-2006, 11:36 PM
I don't know what more can be added here because everything important about the show has been already said. It was my first Tool concert. I enjoyed it. I didn't have problems with others behaviour or sound quality. I loved it all.

After the gig I wait with some other people near the Spodek for the band to show up. We hoped to get the autographs or whatever. Someone came and said that the band wouldn't come and we were wasting our time on waiting for nothing. The band was claimed to had left the arena through another entrance and gone to the Qubus Hotel. I dunno. I dunno.

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-27-2006, 12:50 AM
damn..is that really? only a few guys e.g Spooky79 or B52 can understand what does TOOL mean!!!!!poor sound, poor interaction????

Get the fuck your brains repaired, listen to Green Day next time you TOOL funs...

It was my second gig, same amazing as the first one.

Spooky79 and B52 - you make me feel I'm not alone..



Looks like you didn't bother reading my review...

mantral
06-27-2006, 12:52 AM
Geez mate, where are You from? :) When have you started, do you have a full list? :) I'd gladly see it. Respect!

warsaw/poland.
my first TOOL show was in UK in 1997... i saw them when was in london at IBM training.. no, i don't have any list, but still have all tickets:).. ... i can not point on the best, 'cause every single one was so special, so unique (even with the same set list..), every show had sth special (like Triad with Dave Lombardo during OzzFest -- MANY MANY THANKS TO rattkin FOR SHARE THIS SHOW !!)...

NoID
06-27-2006, 01:00 AM
Wow!! You're so lucky...how come? when did YOU go there ? where were You? ...i mean...what do YOu have to do to get backstage?

It was before the concert started - I was standing at the very back right in front of the stage and there was this guy who approached a group of people in front of me and the other guy, younger one. The first one asked a girl in front of me if she wants to meet a band, but she seemingly couldn't speak English. So he asked 'dou you speak English' and then extended his question onto more people around. I didn't reply cause I wanted to head for the train right after the show, cause there were some World Cup games I had recorded and was looking forward to watching them, lol.

Besides, I wouldn't know what to say to the band members. WTF - I don't know these guys, really - weird thing to me, honestly those invitations. But to each their own...


Oh, and the show itself - liked it a lot. Most things have been said already so I'll limit myself to stating the subjective feedback: sound was perfect, crystal-clear, distorted during Adam's solo a bit, but otherwise perfect. Playlist was OK, though I'd skip 'Right In Two' and hear 'The Pot' instead. Also '46&2' was so-so, but it's me - I never liked this song.

On the length of the show, discussion of which has gotten heated a bit here: mind you, the media had been announcing that concert as "An Evening with Tool, no support, but a longer - 2hr - appearance by Tool themselves". Similarly, mass media didn't advertize it as a part of the warm up tour - it was supposed to be a regular concert. Ooops, I'm sorry - a special one - extended. That should explaind the disappointment of many.

On the venue: however Spodek is a unique arena when it comes to organizing bigger rock concerts in PL and its acoustics is OK, the catering and other things (like cloakroom, restrooms) are appaling. Lack of beer and alcoholic beverages may be easily explained by the fact that Spodek is a national sports hall and Polish law prohibits distribution and consumption of alcohol in such places, but the fact that non-alcoholic beverages the catering offers are warm (or, if you're lucky, lukewarm) is a crime against humanity and a sign of disrespect to those who pay their hard earned money to see their favorite band. Moreover, the beverages are pre-prepared and placed on the bar in open plastic cups in advance - that must be a breach of hygienic rules, I'm sure. Cloakroom is a joke - if you're late, you won't leave your stuff cause there's not enough room for everybody and you have to wait in the immense line after the concert anyway. Fuck that, if it wasn't the only proper music hall (well, sort of) in this country, I'd wish it'd crumble or return to the outer space.

apop-his
06-27-2006, 06:44 AM
I'll tell you my AMAZING story. I'm from Košice - Slovakia. I'm total crazy fan tool. I have been working for all month to get to two of tool shows. To Katowice and next day to Prague. When I went to Katowice I had to find Spodek. During my searching I met two poland guys. They were cool. They helped me to find Spodek. At 11 o'clock I bought my ticked.I was waiting for all day at the hall. Door was open at 17:30. When I was inside I continued in my waiting. I waited 2 Hours. Then started one of the most amaizing concerts on the world. I had seats so i didn't enjoy the show like people in the front. seemed to me that show was relatively short. After show i went behind the venue to wait for band, but nobody came.i have been waitg for then for two hours. i was in hurry cuz my train to prague was leaving katowice.
i was in front of the T-mobile arena at 7 in the morning a i was first. i was waiting for my friends from kosice. i saw tool buses arrive so i was in prague with them. none of the memebers came out of the buses till my friends come. me, my friends and 4 young people from Phoenix were first fans in front of the venue. we saw danny, justin and adam. they were moving from buses to arena. danny later went by walk somewhere to city with friends. justin was biking around arena. it was great. later i met denny near the buses. he shoocked my hand. i told him to sign my 10 000 days album cover,but he told me that after the show. they opened the door to arena at 6;30 and we were waiting inside for two hours till amazing show starts. we were in front of the stage. i was in the third row in front of justin. thez started to plaz rosetta stoned after lost keys, bud withou maznard on his platform. he was behind the visuals and we could see just his siluette. he was in very good mood and he did his crazy dancing behind visuals. it was great. after few seconds he went on his platform and crowd went crazy. the show was amazing. the best. nothing can top this show. the set list was planned like in poland, but they played a special bonus for us. it was because of atmosphere which was made by totally perfect crowd. maynard asked people to stop smoking because of his voice. he was really in very good mood. then thez started to sing ; who are you to wave your finger you must hav been out your head. everybody realized what will happen in next few minutes. they played the pot for us and they played it perfectly. after sober. maynard was much more talkative than in poland. before aenima started maynard said to the crowd: WE ROCKED YOU PRAGUE AND IT WAS MAGICAL. ill remember this forever. after show they stayed on the stage. maynard too. they had really good time. after show a bought a poster and i went with my friends to tool buses. we were waiting for the band. justin came on his bike and he signed me my poster and new album cover. i shoocked his hand but i miss to take a picture with him. i miss adam too, because he was there just for few minutes. then danny came and he signed me album cover and poster too. and of course i shoocked his hand. he was very nice to fans. everyone of them was nice. danny was talking about football that he will go to see next england match. he went to prague by walk with his girlfriend i think. we were hoping for maynard but he didnt came.
there are no words how to describe the atmosphere during show. there is no better band then tool. thanx to tool for everything

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-27-2006, 02:25 PM
I'll tell you my AMAZING story. I'm from Košice - Slovakia. I'm total crazy fan tool. I have been working for all month to get to two of tool shows. To Katowice and next day to Prague. When I went to Katowice I had to find Spodek. During my searching I met two poland guys. They were cool. They helped me to find Spodek. At 11 o'clock I bought my ticked.I was waiting for all day at the hall. Door was open at 17:30. When I was inside I continued in my waiting. I waited 2 Hours. Then started one of the most amaizing concerts on the world. I had seats so i didn't enjoy the show like people in the front. seemed to me that show was relatively short. After show i went behind the venue to wait for band, but nobody came.i have been waitg for then for two hours. i was in hurry cuz my train to prague was leaving katowice.
i was in front of the T-mobile arena at 7 in the morning a i was first. i was waiting for my friends from kosice. i saw tool buses arrive so i was in prague with them. none of the memebers came out of the buses till my friends come. me, my friends and 4 young people from Phoenix were first fans in front of the venue. we saw danny, justin and adam. they were moving from buses to arena. danny later went by walk somewhere to city with friends. justin was biking around arena. it was great. later i met denny near the buses. he shoocked my hand. i told him to sign my 10 000 days album cover,but he told me that after the show. they opened the door to arena at 6;30 and we were waiting inside for two hours till amazing show starts. we were in front of the stage. i was in the third row in front of justin. thez started to plaz rosetta stoned after lost keys, bud withou maznard on his platform. he was behind the visuals and we could see just his siluette. he was in very good mood and he did his crazy dancing behind visuals. it was great. after few seconds he went on his platform and crowd went crazy. the show was amazing. the best. nothing can top this show. the set list was planned like in poland, but they played a special bonus for us. it was because of atmosphere which was made by totally perfect crowd. maynard asked people to stop smoking because of his voice. he was really in very good mood. then thez started to sing ; who are you to wave your finger you must hav been out your head. everybody realized what will happen in next few minutes. they played the pot for us and they played it perfectly. after sober. maynard was much more talkative than in poland. before aenima started maynard said to the crowd: WE ROCKED YOU PRAGUE AND IT WAS MAGICAL. ill remember this forever. after show they stayed on the stage. maynard too. they had really good time. after show a bought a poster and i went with my friends to tool buses. we were waiting for the band. justin came on his bike and he signed me my poster and new album cover. i shoocked his hand but i miss to take a picture with him. i miss adam too, because he was there just for few minutes. then danny came and he signed me album cover and poster too. and of course i shoocked his hand. he was very nice to fans. everyone of them was nice. danny was talking about football that he will go to see next england match. he went to prague by walk with his girlfriend i think. we were hoping for maynard but he didnt came.
there are no words how to describe the atmosphere during show. there is no better band then tool. thanx to tool for everything




And then you and these two guys went to a pub in Spodek, and you had a beer and YOU pulled out some cookies. And you showed them your 10 000 DAYS CD.
And you had a BILLABONG back-pack.

Then you and those 2 guys were sitting around and walking around the Spodek Arena and after this you decided to go get some beers and drink them in front of Spodek.

And you tried a polish beer called LECH. You said you liked it.

After that, you went somewhere and those two guys saw that it was time to get in line for the concert. Those two guys never saw you again after that. One of them had a RAMMSTEIN t-shirt, and the other one had a TOOL - UNDERTOW t-shirt.



Hello, dude. I was the guy in the UNDERTOW t-shirt :)))


I'm happy that you enjoyed the show, I certainly did, but you can read my review on page 2 of this thread. I'm happy we have a second chance to meet right here on toolnavy.

Hope to hear from you in PM.

Take it easy.


PS. It's a small world ;)

Ciri
06-28-2006, 11:00 PM
Boże..że tak ładnie to ujmę. To jest gorsze od faszyzmu. Nie przypuszczałam, że "fani " TOOL-a są taakimi megalomanami. Byłam na koncercie i czytałam opinie już na kilkunastu stronach wstyd mi...Mam propozycję następnym razem po prostu zbierzcie swoją wyjątkową grupę: tych którzy przeżywają lepiej, rozumieją więcej i zróbcie przesiew. Łapcie dzieciaki przed koncertem pytajcie o dyskografię, niech cytują słowa i przkażą wam co też "poeta miał na myśli", zabrońcie podskoków, a co poniektórych wyślijcie na kurs angielskiego. Tak przecież być nie może to rażące, niegodne wręcz nikczemne!!!! Pisze po polsku bo nie chce by było zrozumiane przez zbyt wiele osób o czym w ogóle się debatuje. Acha i moja rada dla laseczek w szpileczkach, ciemnych makijażach i ekstremalnie interesujących tatuażach UNIKAJCIE PŁYTY! Niestety niektórzy przychodzą do Spodka po to by jak to ładnie nazywacie popogować (nie myślcie, że jestem za) tak było od lat i jest, że tak powiem dla ludzi tak wyjątkowych i myślących jest to do przewidzenia. Mam nadzieje, że następnym razem dacie rade i żaden "debil" nie pojawi się na TOOL-u. LICZE NA EFEKTY! Acha przykro mi, że jesteście rozczarowani, że Maynard nie powiedział wiele. Mnie się wydawało, że miał coś śpiewać, a może oczekiwaliście czegoś w stylu Everybody clap your hands albo put yuor hand in the air:-) ! Pozdrawiam wszystkich MEGALOMANÓW WIWAT WASZA PRÓŻNOŚĆ!

mantral
06-28-2006, 11:17 PM
Boże..że tak ładnie to ujmę. To jest gorsze od faszyzmu. Nie przypuszczałam, że "fani " TOOL-a są taakimi megalomanami. Byłam na koncercie i czytałam opinie już na kilkunastu stronach wstyd mi...Mam propozycję następnym razem po prostu zbierzcie swoją wyjątkową grupę: tych którzy przeżywają lepiej, rozumieją więcej i zróbcie przesiew. Łapcie dzieciaki przed koncertem pytajcie o dyskografię, niech cytują słowa i przkażą wam co też "poeta miał na myśli", zabrońcie podskoków, a co poniektórych wyślijcie na kurs angielskiego. Tak przecież być nie może to rażące, niegodne wręcz nikczemne!!!! Pisze po polsku bo nie chce by było zrozumiane przez zbyt wiele osób o czym w ogóle się debatuje. Acha i moja rada dla laseczek w szpileczkach, ciemnych makijażach i ekstremalnie interesujących tatuażach UNIKAJCIE PŁYTY! Niestety niektórzy przychodzą do Spodka po to by jak to ładnie nazywacie popogować (nie myślcie, że jestem za) tak było od lat i jest, że tak powiem dla ludzi tak wyjątkowych i myślących jest to do przewidzenia. Mam nadzieje, że następnym razem dacie rade i żaden "debil" nie pojawi się na TOOL-u. LICZE NA EFEKTY! Acha przykro mi, że jesteście rozczarowani, że Maynard nie powiedział wiele. Mnie się wydawało, że miał coś śpiewać, a może oczekiwaliście czegoś w stylu Everybody clap your hands albo put yuor hand in the air:-) ! Pozdrawiam wszystkich MEGALOMANÓW WIWAT WASZA PRÓŻNOŚĆ!


strasznie negatywnie nastawiona jestes, ale po czesci rozumiem Twoje podejscie... sam bylem na plycie (tuz przy barierce konsolety) i przerzucalem "zmeczone" panienki na jej druga strone.... fakt, bylo tego sporo...
nie kazdy jednak piszacy na tym forum jest zapatrzonym w siebie 'nadczlowiekiem'... wielu z nas (mam nadzieje ze naprawde znaczna czesc) poszedl na ten koncert by przezywac, nie podskakiwac... przynajmniej tak bylo ze mna.
mimo krytyki (nie twierdze, ze nieslusznej) szanuje Twoje zdanie...

pozdrawiam :)

Ciri
06-28-2006, 11:32 PM
strasznie negatywnie nastawiona jestes, ale po czesci rozumiem Twoje podejscie... sam bylem na plycie (tuz przy barierce konsolety) i przerzucalem "zmeczone" panienki na jej druga strone.... fakt, bylo tego sporo...
nie kazdy jednak piszacy na tym forum jest zapatrzonym w siebie 'nadczlowiekiem'... wielu z nas (mam nadzieje ze naprawde znaczna czesc) poszedl na ten koncert by przezywac, nie podskakiwac... przynajmniej tak bylo ze mna.
mimo krytyki (nie twierdze, ze nieslusznej) szanuje Twoje zdanie...

pozdrawiam :)

Dziękuje za odrobinkę zrozumienia, ale pewne sentecje oraz relacje wyprowadzają mnie z równowagi. Cała rzecz polega na tym by żyć i dać żyć innym. Też byłam na płycie, również wiele sytuacji mi się nie podobało, ale pozostawie to dla siebie. To był mój czwarty koncert TOOL-a i wierz mi bywa na nich różnie,a przeżycia pozostawiam dla siebie i w środku.
Pozdrawiam:-)

mantral
06-28-2006, 11:44 PM
Dziękuje za odrobinkę zrozumienia, ale pewne sentecje oraz relacje wyprowadzają mnie z równowagi. Cała rzecz polega na tym by żyć i dać żyć innym. Też byłam na płycie, również wiele sytuacji mi się nie podobało, ale pozostawie to dla siebie. To był mój czwarty koncert TOOL-a i wierz mi bywa na nich różnie,a przeżycia pozostawiam dla siebie i w środku.
Pozdrawiam:-)


... ze tak zacytuje... "zgadzam sie z przedmowca"... nic wiecej mowic nie trzeba

TOOLEK
06-29-2006, 05:12 AM
... ze tak zacytuje... "zgadzam sie z przedmowca"... nic wiecej mowic nie trzeba
Jeśli chodzi o płytę to niesttety faktycznie nie było za ciekawie, nie można było naprawdę skupić się na muzyce, bo ludzie przepychali się chodzili nie wiadomo gdzie no i ogólnie było masakrycznie. Na pewno daleko bnyło tu do dosiadczeń "metafizycznych" i przeżywania muzyki Tool'a. Na drugi raz ja osobiście wybrałbym się na sektory. Myślę, że Tool był zawiedzony polskimi fanami. Czytałem recenzje koncertu w Pradze, tam ponoć było całkiem inaczej i publiczność dostała nawet za to ekstra piosenkę the Pot. Cóż, nie pierwszy raz Polacy dali ciała, choć wiadomo, że nie wszyscy, jednak ogólny obraz niestety był taki jak opisujecie. Może następnym razem będzie lepiej..... acha a co z filmem z Katwoic ma ktos??

spooky79
06-29-2006, 07:52 AM
Jeśli chodzi o płytę to niesttety faktycznie nie było za ciekawie, nie można było naprawdę skupić się na muzyce, bo ludzie przepychali się chodzili nie wiadomo gdzie no i ogólnie było masakrycznie. Na pewno daleko bnyło tu do dosiadczeń "metafizycznych" i przeżywania muzyki Tool'a. Na drugi raz ja osobiście wybrałbym się na sektory. Myślę, że Tool był zawiedzony polskimi fanami. Czytałem recenzje koncertu w Pradze, tam ponoć było całkiem inaczej i publiczność dostała nawet za to ekstra piosenkę the Pot. Cóż, nie pierwszy raz Polacy dali ciała, choć wiadomo, że nie wszyscy, jednak ogólny obraz niestety był taki jak opisujecie. Może następnym razem będzie lepiej..... acha a co z filmem z Katwoic ma ktos??

Hmmm czy The Pot w Pradze byl na bisie? Jesli byl w trakcie koncertu to to nie jest zadna nagroda tylko zaplanowana akcja, co by mnie zreszta nie zdziwilo. A zawiedzenie polskimi fanami to lekka przesada. Zwroc uwage na koncerty w zachodniej Europie, nie mowiac juz o USA. Ekscytacji tyle wsrod widowni co nic. Reakcje spiace i malo spontaniczne. I to nie to, ze w USA czy w Niemczech wolą przezywac niz pogowac. Nie, oni sa po prostu 'spoiled' i tyle. Dla nas w Polsce i to nawet bardziej niz w Czechach, gdzie przyjezdza wiele zespolow, taki koncert to jak uwolnienie po wstrzymywaniu sie od seksu przez cztery lata. A ja nawet na plycie, po ucieczce z srodka na lewa strone mialem przezycia metafizyczne ;) ciary po plecach, miekko w kolanach i mokro w oczach. To byl moj pierwszy koncert i nawet mimo tego ze zdaje sobie sprawe ze nie byl idealny, to i tak byl pierwszy = wspanialy.

Ciri
06-29-2006, 01:11 PM
Hmmm czy The Pot w Pradze byl na bisie? Jesli byl w trakcie koncertu to to nie jest zadna nagroda tylko zaplanowana akcja, co by mnie zreszta nie zdziwilo. A zawiedzenie polskimi fanami to lekka przesada. Zwroc uwage na koncerty w zachodniej Europie, nie mowiac juz o USA. Ekscytacji tyle wsrod widowni co nic. Reakcje spiace i malo spontaniczne. I to nie to, ze w USA czy w Niemczech wolą przezywac niz pogowac. Nie, oni sa po prostu 'spoiled' i tyle. Dla nas w Polsce i to nawet bardziej niz w Czechach, gdzie przyjezdza wiele zespolow, taki koncert to jak uwolnienie po wstrzymywaniu sie od seksu przez cztery lata. A ja nawet na plycie, po ucieczce z srodka na lewa strone mialem przezycia metafizyczne ;) ciary po plecach, miekko w kolanach i mokro w oczach. To byl moj pierwszy koncert i nawet mimo tego ze zdaje sobie sprawe ze nie byl idealny, to i tak byl pierwszy = wspanialy.
Ok ostani raz chyba się wypowiem na tym forum. Jak już wspominałam to był mój czwarty koncert TOOL-a (sorry już piąty), a i znam osobiście pare postaci, ale to nieważne nie chce popadać tu w tak zwaną megalomanię (pomijam fakt stwierdzeń, iż Maynard był w lepszym humorze w Pradze - wow !wysublimuwone!). Dla tych, którzy byli pierwszy raz (i jest to pprzesłanie również od kapeli...) LUDZIE ONI GRAJĄ DLA WAS A NIE WY TWORZYCIE DLA NICH SCENERIĘ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To był Spodek i tyle ot całe zawikłanie. Przestańcie gryźć się z tymi bzdurami bo to nie ma sensu (przesłanie...) Acha przepraszam dobił jeszcze jeden koncert na którym byłam i nie chodzi o szczegóły, ale raz jeszcze LUDZIE ONI GRAJĄ DLA WAS A NIE WY TWORZYCIE DLA NICH SCENERIĘ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Błagam jak już przeżywacie taką straszną metafizykę to nie piszcie tych bzdur!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tu nie do osoby której odpowiadam!!!! Dajcie ludziom żyć i dajcie żyć TOOL-owi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nothing01
06-29-2006, 02:01 PM
Boże..że tak ładnie to ujmę. To jest gorsze od faszyzmu. Nie przypuszczałam, że "fani " TOOL-a są taakimi megalomanami. Byłam na koncercie i czytałam opinie już na kilkunastu stronach wstyd mi...Mam propozycję następnym razem po prostu zbierzcie swoją wyjątkową grupę: tych którzy przeżywają lepiej, rozumieją więcej i zróbcie przesiew. Łapcie dzieciaki przed koncertem pytajcie o dyskografię, niech cytują słowa i przkażą wam co też "poeta miał na myśli", zabrońcie podskoków, a co poniektórych wyślijcie na kurs angielskiego. Tak przecież być nie może to rażące, niegodne wręcz nikczemne!!!! Pisze po polsku bo nie chce by było zrozumiane przez zbyt wiele osób o czym w ogóle się debatuje. Acha i moja rada dla laseczek w szpileczkach, ciemnych makijażach i ekstremalnie interesujących tatuażach UNIKAJCIE PŁYTY! Niestety niektórzy przychodzą do Spodka po to by jak to ładnie nazywacie popogować (nie myślcie, że jestem za) tak było od lat i jest, że tak powiem dla ludzi tak wyjątkowych i myślących jest to do przewidzenia. Mam nadzieje, że następnym razem dacie rade i żaden "debil" nie pojawi się na TOOL-u. LICZE NA EFEKTY! Acha przykro mi, że jesteście rozczarowani, że Maynard nie powiedział wiele. Mnie się wydawało, że miał coś śpiewać, a może oczekiwaliście czegoś w stylu Everybody clap your hands albo put yuor hand in the air:-) ! Pozdrawiam wszystkich MEGALOMANÓW WIWAT WASZA PRÓŻNOŚĆ!


wpelni sie z Toba zgadzam......pozdrawiam:)))))))

Chuck_Of_Wah
06-30-2006, 01:18 PM
Nie przypuszczałam, że "fani " TOOL-a są taakimi megalomanami.!


:D

Leze i zdycham ze smiechu.

Że też wypisane tu przez ciebie quasi-rady, apele solidaryzacji od siedmiu boleści i wypowiedzi przepelnione negatywnymi podtekstami nie są wyrazami twojej megalomanii...

Dziekuje, następny.


Czlowieku, kim bys nie byl, dam ci rade.

Najpierw zrewiduj wnikliwie to co chcesz wypowiedziec na forum zanim faktycznie wypowiesz to na forum.

Jezeli faktycznie zyjesz wedlug maksymy ktora glosi by zyc i dac innym zyc, to co tu robia twoje krytyczne uwagi na ten temat? Czym ty zaprzatasz sobie glowe? Toż mniej hipokryzji wykazal(a)bys wchodzac tu i mowiac cos w stylu:

"Czesc, jestem Ciri i lubie gumisie."


Przynajmniej nie przeczyl(a)bys w tak doslowny sposob samej/emu sobie.


Naprawde, osłabienie totalne...

nothing01
07-01-2006, 04:01 AM
....tylko sie nawzajem nie pozjadajcie....:/

Caputokey
07-01-2006, 04:54 AM
:D

Czlowieku, kim bys nie byl, dam ci rade.



Jesteś bogiem...buehehehe

joanna69
07-01-2006, 12:09 PM
Potrzebny basista z okolic krakowa do zespolu w klimacie h/c punk ska :P jakby ktos chcial (hahaha, chyba nie na tym forum) to podam namiary na klawiszowca

Justin w wywiadzie dla onetu powiedzial ze na jesiennej trasie bedzie wiecej utworow z 10,000 days uwazacie ze beda grali w takim razie Wings for Marie/10,000 days ? Ja mam taka nadzieje,bardzo chcialabym to uslyszec na zywo.

rattkin
07-01-2006, 12:51 PM
Please avoid using other than english languages. There are other places for advertisements and personal arguments. Once again, this is a place to submit a review of a gig. Keep this in mind, thank you. Here's Tom with the weather...