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[hellenkellerkarate]

Has anyone noticed this yet? Track 11: Viginti Tres (23). Fibonacci time!

[ezekiel785]

Hey hellen...

Didn't get it... As far as I can remember the discussions about the song Lateralus (you remember? Syllables added in one row follow Fibonacci)

But as I said... as I remember it was like: 1+1=2, 2+1=3, 3+2=5, 5+3=8, 8+5=13 and so on... how do you think 11 and 23 are related to it?

[Underalus]

because the fibonnaci sequence is 1-1-2-3-5-8-on and on

so track 11 called 23 is like 1123, being the first 4 numbers of the sequence.

[bogsnarth]

there's another thread about this.. i also noted that the track length is 5 minutes (the leaked version has a few extra seconds but i believe that's just because of how ripping programs handle the "negative time" between tracks on some CDs), and 5 is the next number in the sequence. :)

[montsegur]

yeah its nice that its fibonaci sequence but it doesnt change the fact that it sucks...

[seneca77]

yeah its nice that its fibonaci sequence but it doesnt change the fact that it sucks...

hear this on a 5.1 sound system and you will no longer think it sux..... also remember... kabir was told this song is a segue

[ezekiel785]

A segue into what?

The next album in 5 years? ;)

[seneca77]

A segue into what?

The next album in 5 years? ;)


good question, but thats what he said, thats all i know

[bogsnarth]

a lot of people misuse the term "segue" in reference to a lot of tool's tracks.. instead of using it as "transition between two mostly unrelated elements" (the right way), they use it as "one of those tracks with no lyrics that i skip because i'm a stupid dumbface with no taste for ART"

jk please don't ban me kabir

[tainednarf1014]

I don't think it's fibonacci I think it has to do with this.

23 pattern
There is also a numerical pattern discovered by Anon Castillo using 2, 3, 5, and 23 and including 17, where you add one and two, then add an increasing number to each sum:

1 + 2 = 3
2 + 3 = 5
3 + 5 = 8 (or 23)
4 + 8 = 12 (or 3 × 22)
5 + 12 = 17
6 + 17 = 23
7 + 23 = 30 (or 2 × 3 × 5)
This pattern (sequence A089071 in OEIS) consists of the Triangular numbers plus 2.

[kyyuulle]

i'm pretty sure what we're hearing on this track is the real voice of god

[subtlefury]

i'm pretty sure what we're hearing on this track is the real voice of god

Faaip De Oiad? ;)

btw i am absolutely sure the sounds before that sound like flapping wings, and i heard the same sound but much more quiet on the beginnig of Wings for Marie and the end of 10,000 days on my headphones, so they could be linked somehow?

perhaps like that's Judith Marie flapping her brave new wings and meeting the maker or something... :]

[ezekiel785]

btw i am absolutely sure the sounds before that sound like flapping wings, and i heard the same sound but much more quiet on the beginnig of Wings for Marie and the end of 10,000 days on my headphones

Maynard's new pet through a synth? (Like Mantra)

;)

[Nimh]

I don't think it's fibonacci I think it has to do with this.

23 pattern
There is also a numerical pattern discovered by Anon Castillo using 2, 3, 5, and 23 and including 17, where you add one and two, then add an increasing number to each sum:

1 + 2 = 3
2 + 3 = 5
3 + 5 = 8 (or 23)
4 + 8 = 12 (or 3 × 22)
5 + 12 = 17
6 + 17 = 23
7 + 23 = 30 (or 2 × 3 × 5)
This pattern (sequence A089071 in OEIS) consists of the Triangular numbers plus 2.
How is 3 x 22 equal to 12? What did I miss here?

[Noumenon]

3 x 2 x 2, I guess

[Nimh]

Its from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_%28numerology%29
Its supposed to be 2^3 and 2^2.

[TXjen]

The Fibonacci spiral is in the artwork, as well.

[Alex in Chains]

Well, to be exact, you should say that Track 011 is "Viginti Tres," but excellent point. I probably shouldn't have missed that, but I did. Nice catch.

[Alex in Chains]

because the fibonnaci sequence is 1-1-2-3-5-8-on and on

so track 11 called 23 is like 1123, being the first 4 numbers of the sequence.

The second through fifth. The first is 0.

[ahhnevermind]

Faaip De Oiad? ;)

btw i am absolutely sure the sounds before that sound like flapping wings, and i heard the same sound but much more quiet on the beginnig of Wings for Marie and the end of 10,000 days on my headphones, so they could be linked somehow?

perhaps like that's Judith Marie flapping her brave new wings and meeting the maker or something... :]


i thought the exact same thing. wings followed by the voice of god, and then a crash. fucking beautiful