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Lost Keys
04-29-2006, 02:01 AM
Alrighty Then.

Picture this if you will.

The song's theme is blatenly obvious to me but it seems there is alot of people who are confused about what exactly is going on here in this song. let's see what kind of list of examples we can make for either of the two explanations that have been thrown back and forth on this board.

we don't have the official lyrics yet so we'll have to go off what's been deciphered here at toolnavy and what others have noticed.

towards the song being about an Alien Encounter/Abduction:

1. need to know post outside area 51
2. flaming stealth banana split the sky
3. x files beings
4. 11:11

towards the song being about a Pyschedelic Experience:

1. Rossetta "Stoned"
2. Seeing beings from the other dimensions (dmt)
3. memory lapse
4. omg every tool song is about tripping balls



anymore?

MarcDrums
04-29-2006, 06:05 AM
hard to say... id really say he hallucinated the spiritual / technical experience.. but its really hard to say

The Corinthian
04-29-2006, 06:10 AM
I'd say it was purposely left ambiguous.

Simon1987
04-29-2006, 06:11 AM
11:11? so?

T-13h
04-29-2006, 06:25 AM
Yes.

idontmind462
04-29-2006, 06:26 AM
this thread sucks, blows and gets laid in closets.

silencer51
04-29-2006, 06:31 AM
I'd say it was purposely left ambiguous.

I think you 're right. ;-)

godhenry
04-29-2006, 06:48 AM
worst poll ever in the history of the internet.

Lost Keys
04-29-2006, 07:50 AM
o ya!?!

my mesmerizing poll > your 2 ghetto attempts to make one.

heres another add for the psychedelic experience.

5. Orange slices? contains vitamin C which can increase your trip, preferably to a good more relaxed one. possibly connection to sunkist as well.

godhenry
04-29-2006, 07:59 AM
o ya!?!

my mesmerizing poll > your 2 ghetto attempts to make one.

heres another add for the psychedelic experience.

5. Orange slices? contains vitamin C which can increase your trip, preferably to a good more relaxed one. possibly connection to sunkist as well.
ummm did you learn polling from when you were tripping? i was just wondering because your polling is sooooo mesmerizing and UN FUCKING REAL.

dude, you don't have to tell me about vitamin C and all those trip references. i was dropping liquid acid when you were still sucking on you mama's tits. not that makes me a better person than you, but i'm just saying that you still have a lot of growing up to do. that's all.

talibad
04-29-2006, 09:32 AM
humans are funny, and personally i think it might be a mix of both hence me not voteing

placidium
04-29-2006, 10:14 AM
both..,

CaptainMeow
04-29-2006, 10:23 AM
4. omg every tool song is about tripping balls

This is all the evidence we need, in any kind of argument or debate about Tool.

Good show, chap.

M.Luther
04-29-2006, 10:49 AM
you should of added a third option

[O] Both.

fucking amazing song imho....
up there close to third eye.

rocco
04-29-2006, 03:30 PM
both hence neither.

nice pic, mcgroggles.

JE Mack
04-29-2006, 05:27 PM
both

smeefsmeef
04-29-2006, 06:32 PM
It's about Lipan conjuring an intension

seneca77
04-29-2006, 07:49 PM
you need a third option.... both....

a dude on acid ACTUALLY getting abducted is a great story, and would be a great film

Kochipahk
04-29-2006, 08:02 PM
^^^ I agree.

Anyway, I think it's both. *is totally not following a trend*

awaking
04-29-2006, 08:26 PM
both? what drug IDK.. possibly dmt.. maybe salvia or likily lsd

holotrope
04-30-2006, 06:40 AM
you should of added a third option

[O] Both.



Word. You can't have an "either ... or ... " poll about things that aren't mutually exclusive.

I would say both, because it's unclear what the metaphysical/epistemological status is of either alien encounters or drug experiences which feel that real. Phenomenologically, that is.

Helios
04-30-2006, 12:09 PM
I say it's about being abducted by aliens while tripping. It's both.

edit: i see that everyone and his dog already figured the same thing.

Lost Keys
04-30-2006, 11:49 PM
I KNOW I KNOW. i about put a third option for both but there wasn't an edit option for polls in the preview post. SORRY EVERYONE! I'm not as internet ready as that fuck spot henry.

besides that third option, I should of put up a fourth one saying:

"I just don't see anything past my teenage get high years so I don't get what RS is about cause everything is about drugs to me"


40 responses for the psychedelic experince. To a tool song that's lyrics aren't subjective or abstract as previous works and this is where we're at? this is what we come up with? I mean come on! maybe somewhat..... but shit. am I the only one seeing this is obviously a satire move about alien abduction, as in to possibly poke fun at Faaip De Oiad and other conspiracy related theories on the subject?


I'm really trying to see it. so heres another reach.

6. krispy kremes donuts are smashing when you're stoned.

autumnleigh
05-01-2006, 08:05 PM
All I know is that if we don't figure this out soon, something really bad might happen. This is like, the most important issue EVER.

And I'm serious. Or not.

Parabolee
05-02-2006, 04:49 PM
It's cleary an LSD trip that resulted in an ET Experience.

Many people have experienced this (including people Tool are fans of) and are 100% convinced that although the trip may have caused it, that it was not an halucination.

These people include -

1. Bill Hicks (and his best friend).
2. Timothy Leary
3. Me & 8 of my friends

Neil
05-04-2006, 02:12 AM
Perhaps psychadelic drugs open your mind to the true nature of the universe and you meet beings from other dimensions specifically because your mind is altered. but the knowledge you gain is not meant for this world and is impossible to express in words.

And that's why the answer is both.

SuperSteve
05-04-2006, 11:43 AM
2. Seeing beings from the other dimensions (dmt)
3. memory lapse


These two also point to an alien experience, in my opinion.

xPOGOx
05-04-2006, 12:00 PM
Alien Encounter Or A Psychedelic Experience?
Yes.

xPOGOx
05-04-2006, 12:10 PM
...(including people Tool are fans of) ....
These people include -
...
3. Me & 8 of my friends

Heh.

comfortably_numb
05-04-2006, 01:42 PM
" It's got to be
Dead head
Chemistry
The blotter got
Right on top of me
Got me seeing
E mother-fucking T "

i think that suggests that it's about tripping...

although the theory about lsd causing people to get in touch with aliens is interesting..

but if a pencil speaks to you while youre on acid, does that mean that you now learnt to communicate with pencils? does that mean pencils have something to say?

parabol4
05-04-2006, 01:46 PM
Maybe the guy was stoned while he was abducted so its both?

comfortably_numb
05-04-2006, 01:48 PM
Maybe the guy was stoned while he was abducted so its both?

why stoned?

parabol4
05-04-2006, 01:56 PM
why stoned?


Because of the name of the track? *shrug*

Lost Keys
05-05-2006, 02:41 AM
eyes red? feet cold?


that's about teh drugs for suree rite?

josesaladbar
05-05-2006, 12:24 PM
ah , who knows!!!

Nargaroth666
05-05-2006, 03:49 PM
Another nod to the LSD section.. He talks about blotter there somewhere..

jokerman11k3
05-05-2006, 06:13 PM
The song is about a guy who has either tripped on acid and gone insane, or tripping. (Blame Hoffman) = Blame Albert Hoffman, first guy to synthesize LSD.

Opticon
05-05-2006, 07:02 PM
"Strapped down, Eyes Red, Feet cold" sounds like someone who has been commited due to insanity. "you didn't see that, you're crazy, we'll give you some drugs to help." hence the stoned part.

Satival Tributary
05-05-2006, 07:22 PM
I'm pretty sure it's about a bad acid trip.

Carny_Handles
05-05-2006, 09:10 PM
humans are funny, and personally i think it might be a mix of both hence me not voteing


agreed, on both points.

bellamadia
05-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Hey all-

I went to the CosM listening party tonight and Alex Grey spoke about the meaning of this song. It is a story about a friend of TOOL's that had a pretty intense LSD trip and camped out at Area 51. This song is some of the things their friend spoke about while on his trip. He progressively freaked out until he apparently passed out in a pile of his own shit in his sleeping bag. When he woke up he did not remember any of what had happened on his trip or what he had said.

FYI, the listening party was an awesome experience.

resonance.
05-05-2006, 11:23 PM
Hey all-

I went to the CosM listening party tonight and Alex Grey spoke about the meaning of this song. It is a story about a friend of TOOL's that had a pretty intense LSD trip and camped out at Area 51. This song is some of the things their friend spoke about while on his trip. He progressively freaked out until he apparently passed out in a pile of his own shit in his sleeping bag. When he woke up he did not remember any of what had happened on his trip or what he had said.

FYI, the listening party was an awesome experience.

O RLY?|

bellamadia
05-05-2006, 11:26 PM
O RLY?|

yes, RLY

resonance.
05-05-2006, 11:28 PM
yes, RLY

heh, damn I was just gonna edit out that post because I'm wasted and acting retarded... my apologies

Thank you for the insight. I always kinda thought the song was a tribute to Blair.

bellamadia
05-06-2006, 01:16 PM
heh, damn I was just gonna edit out that post because I'm wasted and acting retarded... my apologies

Thank you for the insight. I always kinda thought the song was a tribute to Blair.

Ha ha, no worries.

ZeroPointEther
05-06-2006, 03:13 PM
worst poll ever in the history of the internet.

LOL
You just got online today right ?