how is this for a lead?

[zet]

Read the text on

http://www.toolcollector.net/fake_artwork/30.jpg

left page > a key.
right page "thanks to Kabir too" "

pretty clear right?

Z

[Dr. Strangefist]

pretty clear right?

No, not at all. What the hell are you talking about? It's fake album art someone made up, it's meaningless.

[a_sirian_in_agony]

im not following..

[Bogart]

What are you talking about?

[Cucumber_11]

Please expand on your thoughts.

[mike tyson]

He's spouting some stupid hoax theory like ever other moron that lives in this section.

I'd kill them all if I had enough bullets.

[rsh]

hes saying thanks to kabir for a review of the fake songs.

[zet]

hes saying thanks to kabir for a review of the fake songs.

yes, I'm saying that the leaked album is hoaxed, in part, and that Kabir helped them pull it off so far. hoexed and leaked by the band.

key-hole, key > thanks Kabir etc on those pics.
take a look at all thos pics: there is a story line in them
-keyhole on a page
-key + text on next pages

its a key. Rosetta stone. there are playing a very smart game. Music history in the making (musicbusiness-marketing history, that is).

and btw, please dont threaten to shoot me.

cheers,
z

[Jayar]

I threaten to shoot you!


TWICE in fact!

[Dr. Strangefist]

yes, I'm saying that the leaked album is hoaxed, in part, and that Kabir helped them pull it off so far. hoexed and leaked by the band.

key-hole, key > thanks Kabir etc on those pics.
take a look at all thos pics: there is a story line in them
-keyhole on a page
-key + text on next pages

its a key. Rosetta stone. there are playing a very smart game. Music history in the making (musicbusiness-marketing history, that is).

and btw, please dont threaten to shoot me.

cheers,
z

jesus fucking christ, there is no theory here, no evidence or argument, just rambling nonsense

[zet]

I threaten to shoot you!


TWICE in fact!

well, you won't shoot me, so threatening to do so sounds rather, huh, stupid.

cheers,

z

[Chris_Brightwell]

Those liner notes are clearly fake in that they list Gardner and Larrakin as Tool's management. Tool sued Gardner and Larrakin after Aenima and have not been managed by them since.

[ryzur]

i'm confused as to why there are so many people who say that its so lame that people come up with these theories on hoaxes and whatnot, why do they bother reading this stuff if their point is even valid, i mean do they live in the rumours section as well, and if so, what is their motivation if only to piss themselves off?

He's spouting some stupid hoax theory like ever other moron that lives in this section.

I'd kill them all if I had enough bullets.

[FistFck]

those pictures were already disproved as being fake. otherwise, yeah, u would have a good arguement. but the whole strew of pictures from that book are not real.

[dwohlfahrt]

yeah, look at the halfass binding job between those pages...

[zet]

yeah, look at the halfass binding job between those pages...

Sure, I agree. It looks like a crude fake. But thats the fun of it: there are messages in those apparent fakes. The message is: this is a Joke, a bogus leak, we are playing our fan base; We post truth in lies, lies in truth. Smoke and Mirrors, nothing is what it seems.

That said, this forum is setup and run by Kabir, right?

Lets examine the section "Lies". I bet we will find a lot of truth there ;-)

cheers,

Z

[tollll12]

He's spouting some stupid hoax theory like ever other moron that lives in this section.

I'd kill them all if I had enough bullets.

haha Mike Tyson - living up to the name.

[perhan]

this is fake, sorry.

[zet]

this is fake, sorry.

yes, and thats exactly the point.

[Dr. Strangefist]

Sure, I agree. It looks like a crude fake. But thats the fun of it: there are messages in those apparent fakes. The message is: this is a Joke, a bogus leak, we are playing our fan base; We post truth in lies, lies in truth. Smoke and Mirrors, nothing is what it seems.

That said, this forum is setup and run by Kabir, right?

Lets examine the section "Lies". I bet we will find a lot of truth there ;-)

cheers,

Z

How the fuck could there be messages about the leak in some fake artwork made by some random person and posted on the net? You're talking shit. Truth in lies, lies in truth, smoke and mirrors, nothing is what it seems? Gimme a fucking break. Yes, we must unlock the ancient secrets. I am the gatekeeper. Are you the keymaster?

jesus fucking christ.

[Alexandra]

Okay, zet, it's fake. Any of the supposed clues that you're finding in all of this don't exist because I know the person who made this "album art". Secondly, this was put in the fake album art thread a long time ago. There's nothing in it except for some hilarious esoteric plugs.

[zet]

How the fuck could there be messages about the leak in some fake artwork made by some random person and posted on the net? You're talking shit. Truth in lies, lies in truth, smoke and mirrors, nothing is what it seems? Gimme a fucking break. Yes, we must unlock the ancient secrets. I am the gatekeeper. Are you the keymaster?

jesus fucking christ.

slow down dude. I'm just sharing my thoughts here on my suspicion that Tool is undertaking a very funny and interesting launch method of their new Album. What i'm saying is:

-The leaked MP4-set is *part* genuine, part bogus (but very well done)
-Done by the band
-surrounded by bits and pieces of information and clues.
-Done in such a way that it confuses some and even enrages some others.
(thats what I mean with "truth in lies" etc. Its an old "tradecraft" technique: hid genuine information in apparent bogus information. Nothing esoteric, just fun stuff for people who like to think, deceive and expose)

The message is: think, dont follow. Question Authority. Question T.D.N's statements ("known lies" "known to be fake"). Question your own fan-hood. Be honest. Dont be a fan: enjoy the art+ message.

Greetings,
z

[TheRuleOfThree]

It's pathetic that people will analyze a leaked album this much.

[Cucumber_11]

slow down dude. I'm just sharing my thoughts here on my suspicion that Tool is undertaking a very funny and interesting launch method of their new Album. What i'm saying is:

-The leaked MP4-set is *part* genuine, part bogus (but very well done)
-Done by the band
-surrounded by bits and pieces of information and clues.
-Done in such a way that it confuses some and even enrages some others.
(thats what I mean with "truth in lies" etc. Its an old "tradecraft" technique: hid genuine information in apparent bogus information. Nothing esoteric, just fun stuff for people who like to think, deceive and expose)

The message is: think, dont follow. Question Authority. Question T.D.N's statements ("known lies" "known to be fake"). Question your own fan-hood. Be honest. Dont be a fan: enjoy the art+ message.

Greetings,
z


Heh. Sweet.

Are you suggesting a member of tool may have leaked quite purposefully faked artwork into the public domain? But within the proven fake artwork there is some hudden truth? That would be so cool.

I have my doubts, but meh, i'll give every possibility a chance.

[Shivawn]

Zet, didn't you post in another thread that there isn't a double album? What are you proposing then?

There are tracks that will be remove/moved around and remixed slightly?

I'm unclear what you are saying.

[zet]

Heh. Sweet.

Are you suggesting a member of tool may have leaked quite purposefully faked artwork into the public domain?


exactly what I'm suggesting. Its a very, very clever ploy. Designed to confuse and amaze. Side effect is that if some dumbfuck bootlegger is spinning copies right now to sell for 2 bucks on a fair, he is out of luck come may 2nd.




But within the proven fake artwork there is some hudden truth? That would be so cool.

I have my doubts, but meh, i'll give every possibility a chance.

I'll know on friday afternoon, when the album is out here in Holland..
Cheers,
Z

[zet]

Zet, didn't you post in another thread that there isn't a double album? What are you proposing then?

There are tracks that will be remove/moved around and remixed slightly?

I'm unclear what you are saying.

I've not been very clear, sorry for that.

I think this leaked arrangement is composed of some genuine songs of the new album (1 at least, the first) and part b-sides, outtages, re-hashed other, possibly modified material.

Blair announced the decoy very clearly last year, and that is also part of standard "tradecraft": overexpress your intentions, the other party (ie: us) then start to doubt it and seeks deeper meaning.

Very intesting and clever, very toolish.

[Cucumber_11]

I always thought Blair said what he said about the decoy so most people would dispell it as a joke, or bullshit. Sine he knows everyone thinks he speaks shit he knew that it would be ignored, hiding the probabilty of being true. Quite clever.

Anyone noticed that blair is very quiet lately? Not a word from him for ages.

[Toolbelt]

That's because he's fucking dead. He pissed off one fanboy too many.

[tangent]

yes, I'm saying that the leaked album is hoaxed, in part, and that Kabir helped them pull it off so far. hoexed and leaked by the band.

key-hole, key > thanks Kabir etc on those pics.
take a look at all thos pics: there is a story line in them
-keyhole on a page
-key + text on next pages

its a key. Rosetta stone. there are playing a very smart game. Music history in the making (musicbusiness-marketing history, that is).

and btw, please dont threaten to shoot me.

cheers,
z

So when are people going to accept it then?

[zet]

So when are people going to accept it then?
well, coming thursday 23:59 to be precise. Thats when the album is released over here in Holland.

I will be very happy if I'm right. I just listened to the latest leak (better quality) and still am and will remain disapointed if thats the genuine article.

Lots of people are saying this RNS "scene rip" is clear proof that this is it, but I just keep hoping we're being played a very clever and elaborate joke.

Just got 3 tickets for the Luxembourg show on the 31th of may. Thats gonna be cool, either way ;-)

Z

[Elbandagji]

Lots of people are saying this RNS "scene rip" is clear proof that this is it, but I just keep hoping we're being played a very clever and elaborate joke.

What is this about?

RNS?

[swaps]

Rabid Neurosis (RNS) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabid_Neurosis) - RNS was a major mp3 group founded by the user Al_Capone in 1996. One of the largest (member wise) and most prolific mp3 groups. RNS has made a name for itself by specializing in Rap releases, sometimes releasing popular new albums many months before they would hit store shelves.
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[Artistic Sickness]

That's because he's fucking dead. He pissed off one fanboy too many.

I have his death on film.