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The Village Too
04-20-2006, 06:19 PM
OK

A big complaint about the new album is that there's stuff there, but they don't build it up enough into a toolgasm.

So a lot of people love it and a lot of people are let down. Why? Because it is a watered-down version of what to come. So, we WILL hear the material on the new album, but it'll be complete, and unhandicapped. Think 10,000 days makes you cry now? Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.

Take for instance 4:20 in Wings for marie (pt 1), where they have built up the most kickass groove and then they just kill it by hitting a D power chord and letting it fade out. They do it in wings 2 as well. Why the hell would they do such a thing? Is it supposed to mean "something that was beautiful just got cut short" like Judith Marie Keenan? No. Because that's fucking dogass. You don't do that to a song. That's like falling asleep in the middle of giving someone a blowjob. It's a big fuck you to the assholes (including myself) who downloaded the leaked album, but they made it so that it'd still be consistent with reviews at various listening sessions. Do you catch my groove?

right_in_three
04-20-2006, 06:21 PM
I catch it.

I wonder what we would all do when we go to the stores on May 2nd and see a diff Tool album?
Not saying it'll happen but it'd be nice to have that much more TOOL.

kyyuulle
04-20-2006, 06:22 PM
this thread is a laffriotspectacular

thank you

Nikola Petrovic
04-20-2006, 06:23 PM
the albums real

Jesus Knievel
04-20-2006, 06:23 PM
yes tool wasted all the money it takes to produce and record an album just to trick its fans

GG TOOL!!

Kurtz
04-20-2006, 06:24 PM
he's serious........oh man.....he's actually serious....

kyyuulle
04-20-2006, 06:25 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered

The Village Too
04-20-2006, 06:25 PM
he's serious........oh man.....he's actually serious....

He is? Well maybe you can just go fuck yourself!

ProdigyDub
04-20-2006, 06:27 PM
It's really funny how anyone using even 1% of their brain could think that a band and their producer would waste immense amounts of time and money recording a full length album that "wasn't real".

To the original poster: don't let the fact that you don't like certain sections of some of the songs confuse you into thinking they're not the real, final deal. Your opinion is irrelevant to what Tool actually recorded.

babbletonic
04-20-2006, 06:27 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered
you must have a fake version then...

The Village Too
04-20-2006, 06:29 PM
It's really funny how anyone using even 1% of their brain could think that a band and their producer would waste immense amounts of time and money recording a full length album that "wasn't real".

To the original poster: don't let the fact that you don't like certain sections of some of the songs confuse you into thinking they're not the real, final deal. Your opinion is irrelevant to what Tool actually recorded.

It wouldn't be hard to make a teaser album from existing material. or it's a b-sides album... but i think it's a teaser

fault
04-20-2006, 06:32 PM
OK

A big complaint about the new album is that there's stuff there, but they don't build it up enough into a toolgasm.

So a lot of people love it and a lot of people are let down. Why? Because it is a watered-down version of what to come. So, we WILL hear the material on the new album, but it'll be complete, and unhandicapped. Think 10,000 days makes you cry now? Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.

Take for instance 4:20 in Wings for marie (pt 1), where they have built up the most kickass groove and then they just kill it by hitting a D power chord and letting it fade out. They do it in wings 2 as well. Why the hell would they do such a thing? Is it supposed to mean "something that was beautiful just got cut short" like Judith Marie Keenan? No. Because that's fucking dogass. You don't do that to a song. That's like falling asleep in the middle of giving someone a blowjob. It's a big fuck you to the assholes (including myself) who downloaded the leaked album, but they made it so that it'd still be consistent with reviews at various listening sessions. Do you catch my groove?


Its like you read my mind. But i'm too pussy to have started a thread about it. The build is there then it goes nowhere. Its just so un-tool. Its like this is the album with the good bits gutted and replaced with filler. Album and Titles stay the same, songs just get unleashed.

I've avoided the other hoax threads as it seemed far to implausible. This is how I believe/wish/pray it to happen.

p3rfect9inchto0l
04-20-2006, 06:33 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered


I think this is the most plausible scenario in which we will be getting a "different" album come may 2nd. It just seems too farfetched that tool wud go thru all the trouble of making some b-sides or fake songs in the off chance that this FAKE material would leak. For all these conspiracy theories to be true, it would mean that tool would have to insure that the songs people are downloading now would get leaked in the first place. How could they be 100% sure that the "REAL" album wouldnt get leaked too?

I do have some doubts about this cd being the complete and final album, but simply for that reason quoted above. Vicarious (the only official single) seems to be far more produced than any other song (except for "10000 days" with the thunderstorm effect)

While I won't be overly dissapointed if this is the final product, I do feel like there is something missing in this record in terms of "finishing," if you will, after 5 years in the making

By finishing...i mean the final mastering/production

ProdigyDub
04-20-2006, 06:34 PM
It wouldn't be hard to make a teaser album from existing material. or it's a b-sides album... but i think it's a teaser

You have absolutely no idea how hard it would be.

Do you honestly think a band of professionals who have already proven themselves time and time again would waste their time and effort with something like that? I'm sure between all their respective side projects, family/friends, and other interests in life they all agreed that the best thing to do would be to record a bunch a fake stuff. That makes perfect sense.

Seriously, try and step out of your body for a second. Pretend you're one of the 4 members of Tool. What in the HELL would be your motivation for doing something like that?

Leroy Brown
04-20-2006, 06:35 PM
OK

A big complaint about the new album is that there's stuff there, but they don't build it up enough into a toolgasm.

So a lot of people love it and a lot of people are let down. Why? Because it is a watered-down version of what to come. So, we WILL hear the material on the new album, but it'll be complete, and unhandicapped. Think 10,000 days makes you cry now? Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.

Take for instance 4:20 in Wings for marie (pt 1), where they have built up the most kickass groove and then they just kill it by hitting a D power chord and letting it fade out. They do it in wings 2 as well. Why the hell would they do such a thing? Is it supposed to mean "something that was beautiful just got cut short" like Judith Marie Keenan? No. Because that's fucking dogass. You don't do that to a song. That's like falling asleep in the middle of giving someone a blowjob. It's a big fuck you to the assholes (including myself) who downloaded the leaked album, but they made it so that it'd still be consistent with reviews at various listening sessions. Do you catch my groove?


not at all.

drape
04-20-2006, 06:36 PM
i agree 100% with what this guy is saying
"The build is there, then it goes nowhere"

fault
04-20-2006, 06:36 PM
You have absolutely no idea how hard it would be.

Do you honestly think a band of professionals who have already proven themselves time and time again would waste their time and effort with something like that?

I agree it sounds silly, but the fact they have proven themselves time and time again - yet to me the album is empty and hollow makes me question it.

Hopefully its more than wishful thinking. I'm not getting my hopes up though.

peripheral
04-20-2006, 06:37 PM
any chance that this is the REAL album, but they will arrange it differently on tour? perhaps an 8 minute tune will be expanded into the 20 minute jam version...or maybe not.

Vegama
04-20-2006, 06:39 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered

You know. I don't doubt anything... I was sitting there thinking... "Why wouldn't Tool do this? If any band could get away with something like that, it could be them."

Dungflowers
04-20-2006, 06:39 PM
Gotta love those 70 minute teasers.....hahahaha.

If this album is a teaser, then the REAL album must be 8 days long!

dracomordag
04-20-2006, 06:39 PM
the only seriously plausible explanation of this being a "fake album" is if it's a b-sides album.

if so, it's probably one of the best B-sides collections i've ever heard.

Athanatizein
04-20-2006, 06:45 PM
Allow me to fan the flames a bit. Over here in Norway people tend to be a bit unconcerned about these things, socialist buggers as we are. Hence all the pretention of such an act as releasing to albums or whatnot would be seen upon as bothersome and succinctly ignored. Combine that with a complete lack of work ethics and a lack of follow up due to too much equality and you have a perfect environment for stupid things to happen.

So, here's what I've got. On CDON.no, the track listing for 10,000 days shows the titles as "XXXX"- main version.

I.e. 01- Vicarious- main version etc. for all tracks.

Does this give credence to anything? Probably not, but I'm looking forward to talking about the conspiracy theories around the time of the release of the next album (if, in deed, there will be one), and proudly proclaiming that I vicariously (meme virus) fanned the flames. :)

oneredflag
04-20-2006, 06:47 PM
nevermind


Shit the bed?

fault
04-20-2006, 06:50 PM
Holy shit I just heard some of it and I am very very confused.
I mean I am the guy mocking all the "hoax/decoy honks" and I still can't add up any logic that says decoy, but for the first time there is a flicker of doubt

Lol... try wings at 4:15 like mentioned earlier? They could easily have ripped the good bit from it , written that average progression in 5mins and recorded it. Voila!

I'm not usually one for conspiricy theories, but i'm so bummed by the album i'm almost convinced of this.

Dionysus74
04-20-2006, 06:50 PM
If you're going to post against the thread starter at least get your shit straight. He's not implying they created two completely different albums. He's suggesting that this is in fact the real album, but not exactly finished (i.e. not completely mixed/mastered, maybe not all the musical elements are there, etc.). This wouldn't cost them extra time or money, basically leaking the album themselves before it was complete. And, you ask, what is the motivation? Simple, make everyone think they have the record early so that people aren't trying as hard to steal and leak the real album.

Having said all that, I don't necessarily support the idea presented here.

fault
04-20-2006, 06:52 PM
If you're going to post against the thread starter at least get your shit straight. He's not implying they created to completely different albums. He's suggesting that this is in fact the real album, but not exactly finished (i.e. not completely mixed/mastered, maybe not all the musical elements are there, etc.). This wouldn't cost them extra time or money, basically leaking the album themselves before it was complete. And, you ask, what is the motivation? Simple, make everyone think they have the record early so that people aren't trying as hard to steal and leak the real album.

Perfectly summed up.

badshirt
04-20-2006, 06:52 PM
This could very much be the case in my opinion.

Specifically about the non-mastered part.

CallofCthulhu
04-20-2006, 06:53 PM
OK

A big complaint about the new album is that there's stuff there, but they don't build it up enough into a toolgasm.

So a lot of people love it and a lot of people are let down. Why? Because it is a watered-down version of what to come. So, we WILL hear the material on the new album, but it'll be complete, and unhandicapped. Think 10,000 days makes you cry now? Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.

Take for instance 4:20 in Wings for marie (pt 1), where they have built up the most kickass groove and then they just kill it by hitting a D power chord and letting it fade out. They do it in wings 2 as well. Why the hell would they do such a thing? Is it supposed to mean "something that was beautiful just got cut short" like Judith Marie Keenan? No. Because that's fucking dogass. You don't do that to a song. That's like falling asleep in the middle of giving someone a blowjob. It's a big fuck you to the assholes (including myself) who downloaded the leaked album, but they made it so that it'd still be consistent with reviews at various listening sessions. Do you catch my groove?

The ONLY WAY I'LL AGREE WITH ANY OF THIS is if maybe we have older mixes of songs. Such as when System of a Down - Steal This Album came out, I downloaded an older mix of Innervision. Sounds exactly the same as the real release except for a few changes. This is the album though, so on the other hand I dont agree with you at all. Hahah980awhawh.

And you know that thread about Jambi and the gong? Remember in that one Tool newsletter where they had to ship in extra audio equipment just to remove a little bit of noise from this one song............hmmmmmm

buster hymen
04-20-2006, 06:55 PM
viginty tres - 23 - only 2/3 of the final product?

It likely couldn't be a multiple disc set because it would seriously screw all of the retailers and especially those with pre-sales (pre-paid or not). A watered down version then makes sense and therefore the band didn't spent a bunch of time on fakes instead a remix to fuck with fans hmm..........

I hate to buy into the conspiracy theory stuff just to be let down on may 2.

also, I really like the production level on this album much better than lateralus, seems looser and to me more natural.

TREVORISMATT
04-20-2006, 06:55 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered

No, it really doesnt. Listen to it with a nice set of headphones

/V\agina
04-20-2006, 07:29 PM
...that's fucking dogass...

mmm... doughnuts...

VillageIdiot
04-20-2006, 07:54 PM
It's full of crackles and pops on nice speakers too... but then again alot of finished albums are these days.

Pisses me off... they must expect that everyone listens to it on standard iPod earbuds or some shit.

fault
04-20-2006, 07:58 PM
It's full of crackles and pops on nice speakers too... but then again alot of finished albums are these days.

I noticed this, but put it down to a shitty rip.

Spaceman Spiff
04-20-2006, 08:03 PM
.that's fucking dogass.

The/Perfect/Tool
04-20-2006, 08:09 PM
I hope this is the case, although I know it's not.

Alcawhorlick
04-20-2006, 08:13 PM
OK

A big complaint about the new album is that there's stuff there, but they don't build it up enough into a toolgasm.

So a lot of people love it and a lot of people are let down. Why? Because it is a watered-down version of what to come. So, we WILL hear the material on the new album, but it'll be complete, and unhandicapped. Think 10,000 days makes you cry now? Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.

Take for instance 4:20 in Wings for marie (pt 1), where they have built up the most kickass groove and then they just kill it by hitting a D power chord and letting it fade out. They do it in wings 2 as well. Why the hell would they do such a thing? Is it supposed to mean "something that was beautiful just got cut short" like Judith Marie Keenan? No. Because that's fucking dogass. You don't do that to a song. That's like falling asleep in the middle of giving someone a blowjob. It's a big fuck you to the assholes (including myself) who downloaded the leaked album, but they made it so that it'd still be consistent with reviews at various listening sessions. Do you catch my groove?


Sounds plausible to me.
I remember hearing different versions of what I think was most of Pearl Jam's "Ten", plus a song or two which weren't on the album a while after it was released.
I wonder if it would make sense to leak outtakes of the very album you plan on releasing though. What would be the benefit? Would it really thwart leakage?
The real versions would leak eventually anyway. Do they really want bastardized versions of their songs floating around?

Unless they are just the rejected lateralus-era songs that chancellor spoke of in the 2001 interviews, just finished/polished up a little. In which case the real tracks would be completely different, and would leak eventually as well.

Might not be worth the trouble. It's an interesting concept though.
Also, this album is sorta disappointing. Looks like they should have worked on it longer than 1 1/2 years or whatever.

fault
04-20-2006, 08:31 PM
Sounds plausible to me.
I remember hearing different versions of what I think was most of Pearl Jam's "Ten", plus a song or two which weren't on the album a while after it was released.


Best argument I can make is the longer you hold out before the leak, the more first day sales you get. If the leak is indeed a "slimmed down" version, imagine the publicitiy it would recieve.

Agreed its a big task to achieve such a stunt, but to me this album holds very little i love about tool, and up to this point they've been consistantly amazing. Unnaturally amazing. 10KD is anti-climatic, linear and shallow. Something smells fishy.

But if this indeed is the final album, then so be it.

asears05
04-20-2006, 09:49 PM
I wouldnt usually lend much credence to conspiracy theories, but I actually had a version of "We Ride" by strapping young lad on my computer, then when I went and bought the album the two songs werent exactly alike. Much like what the original poster is hinting at. The version I had on my PC was missing a solo and a cool crunchy riff that grooved along with it which both happened to be present on the album version.

I dont mean to fan the flames but it could be possible.

ryzur
04-20-2006, 09:57 PM
Best argument I can make is the longer you hold out before the leak, the more first day sales you get. If the leak is indeed a "slimmed down" version, imagine the publicitiy it would recieve.

Agreed its a big task to achieve such a stunt, but to me this album holds very little i love about tool, and up to this point they've been consistantly amazing. Unnaturally amazing. 10KD is anti-climatic, linear and shallow. Something smells fishy.

But if this indeed is the final album, then so be it.

Definitely. I hope very dearly in my heart that this is really what is going on. That there is somehow more to this whole thing than what appears to be on the surface. I mean come on isnt that what Tool is all about? To me, such a stunt makes perfect "Tool" sense. They have consistently become better over the years (Unless of course if this is the real album) and have always been pushing their limits. Take the song Lateralus, "push the envelope, watch it bend". They have also consistently fucked with us. People grow but people also stay the same. Its all a pattern and I won't believe this is the real deal until May 2nd.

Also, just to touch on the reasoning behind such a stunt, it makes so much sense from what I have always seen Tool's main message be; Think for yourself, question authority. Tool have become an authority figure so to speak to many of their fans. To release such a musically low quality album as a decoy, they would be decieving all of us here on these very forums who look to Tool for answers. Maybe they aren't the Gods we make them out to be? I personally get the feeling maybe they want us to realize that they are just people too. Capable of mediocrity. Maybe we should instead look for the answers within ourselves?

implandnoises
04-20-2006, 10:29 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered

Do you actually know what an unmastered mix sounds like? I am not trynig to take the piss, I am just wondering. In terms of mix, well, I haven't stolen the album so I don't know what it sounds like, but I do know it was engineered by Joe Barresi (The Melvins, Kyuss) who takes a very different approach to David Bottrill (Lateralus, Salival, King Crimson). I would say Joe's approach could be discribed as less engineered than David's.

As for mastering, basically the main goal there is to bring the album in line with itself and all other albums. This means the overall volume of the tracks should be the same as each other and all other albums in general. So that when it gets played on the radio the song doesn't suddenly blow your speakers because its so much louder than everything else (or it's so quiet you have to turn the amp right up).

If it is an unmixed or unmastered version of the album that has leaked then I think the band would really like to know because that could seriously narrow down the number of possible people who could have leaked it.

But the idea of the band throwing it out there deliberately? I highly doubt it. Ingenious in some respects but extremely wasteful nonetheless.

McRoggles
04-20-2006, 10:33 PM
It's full of crackles and pops on nice speakers too... but then again alot of finished albums are these days.

Pisses me off... they must expect that everyone listens to it on standard iPod earbuds or some shit.

I dunno, I burned two cd's, one has crackles, the other doesn't. But the one who doesn't destroys itself after Rosetta Stoned.

CallofCthulhu
04-20-2006, 11:17 PM
FOR THE LAST TIME THIS IS THE FUCKING ALBUM


BLWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

OftenLost
04-20-2006, 11:18 PM
You're stupid CoC, it most certainly isnt.

McRoggles
04-20-2006, 11:20 PM
How do you know?

Proof.

OftenLost
04-20-2006, 11:26 PM
Um, well besides Blair, this album sort of speaks for itself.

McRoggles
04-20-2006, 11:27 PM
Blair is Blair.

Yes, the album speaks for itself.

It is awesome.

fault
04-20-2006, 11:27 PM
Um, well besides Blair, this album sort of speaks for itself.

Ouch.

Echo Flanger
04-20-2006, 11:53 PM
this version sounds unmixed or unmastered

It's mixed and mastered for sure. Everything is in balance and it's not very quiet.

bryan wi11iams
04-21-2006, 12:29 AM
i think its possible that the leak is actually "pre-production" demos rather than the final album.
x
the mix is just way too sloppy (excluding vicarious), listen to danny's toms in jambi. this also explains the builds that lead nowhere, the emptyness, hollowness ect. the mixes dont "rock" like they should. and the producer would have easily been able to point out the empty sounding parts, and said "hey.. fix this."

if this is the actual album.. (based on what ive heard) someone should be fired.

toot-ma-noot
04-21-2006, 01:48 AM
i think its possible that the leak is actually "pre-production" demos rather than the final album.
x
the mix is just way too sloppy (excluding vicarious), listen to danny's toms in jambi. this also explains the builds that lead nowhere, the emptyness, hollowness ect. the mixes dont "rock" like they should. and the producer would have easily been able to point out the empty sounding parts, and said "hey.. fix this."

if this is the actual album.. (based on what ive heard) someone should be fired.

i noticed a couple delayed drum beats in vicarious, and no I have not downloaded the album like you guys. I'm waiting to go buy the damned thing so I have it in my hands to sit down and listen to. I am excited about the cover artwork as well and the sounds.

I also have similar feelings. When have you heard a missed/delayed drum strike on their albums. I feel as if they are constantly striving to be the best, pushing themselves to perfection. This is not like them. Very wishful thinking for pre-production demos, but I wouldn't be suprised if whatever you guys are listening to is the final cut. As far as we are concerned, TOOL can give the sheep just about anything they want and give us as musicians. So take the sound a turn it into a positive, cuz it isn't going to change.

jeebaz
04-21-2006, 02:01 AM
i think its possible that the leak is actually "pre-production" demos rather than the final album.
x
the mix is just way too sloppy (excluding vicarious), listen to danny's toms in jambi. this also explains the builds that lead nowhere, the emptyness, hollowness ect. the mixes dont "rock" like they should. and the producer would have easily been able to point out the empty sounding parts, and said "hey.. fix this."

if this is the actual album.. (based on what ive heard) someone should be fired.

Just finished reading this thread and just to pour some more fuel on the fire wonder why no-one is mentioning 10000 years (yes YEARS) (http://toolnavy.com/showthread.php?t=38787). Numerous posts claim there are two different release dates 2nd may - 10000 Days + 16th May - 10000 Years follow


"Desperate to control all and everything"

Oberon
04-21-2006, 02:24 AM
I work for Tool Dissectional.

So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you don't know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you don't know about the topic....Don't make yourself sound like you do.

Because some Tool Fans believe anything they read.

McRoggles
04-21-2006, 02:27 AM
I work for Tool Dissectional.


WHOA!

fault
04-21-2006, 02:28 AM
I work for Tool Dissectional.

I stopped reading at this point.

G-Dub4lyfe
04-21-2006, 05:54 AM
This album has a large amount of filler with just Adam playing and nothing else happening, as well as absolutely ridiculous quarter-baked vocal parts. I want to believe that the real album will replace that stuff with the heaviness that was talked about so much in interviews. I also think that it's quite possible to edit out the climaxes that these songs so desparately need with Pro Tools. It's 2006 people, there's some pretty decent fucking technology nowadays.

Juanjay
04-21-2006, 06:03 AM
This album has a large amount of filler with just Adam playing and nothing else happening, as well as absolutely ridiculous quarter-baked vocal parts. I want to believe that the real album will replace that stuff with the heaviness that was talked about so much in interviews. I also think that it's quite possible to edit out the climaxes that these songs so desparately need with Pro Tools. It's 2006 people, there's some pretty decent fucking technology nowadays.

I agree with the Pro Tools part.. if that is the case they may have taken the 4 or more tracks and doubles that held the climaxes out and left in just Adam or just one of the layered guitar parts.

vic1torious
04-21-2006, 06:08 AM
you people are stupid. there is no way this version of 10000 days is fake. Because you heard that silly rumor your little brains are going to make you think things that should be there are missing. When this album comes out and it's the same, you will feel like fucking retards. Especially after all the massive amounts of shit you say are lacking in this album. It's a great album as is, and if you did download it you will buy it when it comes out and understand its awesomeness.

seemyshadowchanging
04-21-2006, 06:13 AM
I dunno, I burned two cd's, one has crackles, the other doesn't. But the one who doesn't destroys itself after Rosetta Stoned.
hey roggles how long is the album u downloaded in minutes wise.wasnt the album supposed to be like 77 minutes or something.i have not heard anything but vicarious so one way or the other i will be hearing the album fresh on the 2nd.i am just going to keep an open mind.there are alot of people with intresting points of a hoax and the same for people that think its real.we will have to wait and see

Descencia
04-21-2006, 06:22 AM
The time difference is probably because on the actual CD after Right In Two there is probably a few minutes of empty time before Viginti Tres or between one of the other interludes. Similar to Lateralus when Triad ended and then Faaip De Oiad starts after about 2 minutes. 74:46 and 77 minutes is not a huge difference.

I think this is the only thing coming out on May 2nd. The import comes out 5/16. Same thing. There is no other CD, we just have to accept it for what it is.

bonus.cheese
04-21-2006, 06:59 AM
I dunno, I burned two cd's, one has crackles, the other doesn't. But the one who doesn't destroys itself after Rosetta Stoned.

I feel the same way everytime I play Rosetta Stoned.

jacks_raging_bile_duct
04-21-2006, 07:04 AM
I think on May 16th we are going to get a DVD. The band has always said that they want to do something extra, visually, (like a movie) to their music much the like Pink Floyd did with the "The Wall". They have cited "The Wall" specifically in the past. That would explain the 26 dollar cost. Just a thought.

implandnoises
04-21-2006, 08:09 AM
That would explain the 26 dollar cost. Just a thought.

Imports are more expensive because they have to be imported

Rosette feasted
04-21-2006, 08:11 AM
The same thing was said about With Teeth.

This is the real album. Disappointing, but true.

ObviousParadox
04-21-2006, 09:01 AM
OK
Wait till they fucking drop the real tool bomb on your ass on May 2nd (or soon after that, when they release an even realer album). The leaked album isn't fake; nay, it is a teaser.


an even realer album? ahahaha dumbass. "Or soon after that." See also: 2 years later this guy is still calling cd stores "Is the realer 10000 days in yet?!"

Vampiric_Clam
04-21-2006, 09:12 AM
Adam Jones talked about a track named "Those Shoes" in Guitar World...

Whatever happened to it?

Cemetery Shindig
04-21-2006, 09:17 AM
Adam Jones talked about a track named "Those Shoes" in Guitar World...

Whatever happened to it?

This has been discussed literally 30 times already. Use the search function. It was an Eagles song. The magazine misquoted him.

tangent
04-21-2006, 09:17 AM
I hear the new album is really going to be 120 minutes long, two discs O.o

implandnoises
04-21-2006, 09:22 AM
I hear the album is going to 666 minutes long, one disc.

What nonsense we discuss...

Bodhi
04-21-2006, 02:12 PM
My limpy D. is hard now. Conspiracy.

Scratch
04-21-2006, 02:29 PM
i remember downloading some songs from "with teeth", the most recent nin album, before it came out and they were the main riff of the song minus various interludes, vocal sections, etc. it is very plausible to assume the leaked version is not complete.

monkeythumbs
04-21-2006, 02:58 PM
i love what ive got, but i cant dissagree more would be better... bring it.

but im going to feel bad for all those who are counting on it on may 2nd...

hopefully you wont continue hope for years later, that "its comming" oh well love the album.

question93
04-21-2006, 03:09 PM
Do you actually know what an unmastered mix sounds like? I am not trynig to take the piss, I am just wondering. In terms of mix, well, I haven't stolen the album so I don't know what it sounds like, but I do know it was engineered by Joe Barresi (The Melvins, Kyuss) who takes a very different approach to David Bottrill (Lateralus, Salival, King Crimson). I would say Joe's approach could be discribed as less engineered than David's.


Dude, the engineering on this album is AMAZING. It doens't have the garage bandy feel that a Kyuss album does, but holy shit it has the epic feel of a Kyuss album.

question93
04-21-2006, 03:10 PM
I hear the album is going to 666 minutes long, one disc.

What nonsense we discuss...

It's 76:06.

acsguitar
04-21-2006, 03:20 PM
Either way I'm listening to TOOL right now and its TOOL I haven't heard before..

Thats cool withme

Dogma Slayer
04-21-2006, 03:45 PM
I believe that the band might agree to a dvd tribute to maynards mom. Maybe using the music from the leak, artwork of Alex, and Adam Jones producing. I don't know whether it would be appropriate because I have not heard the music. Then they could rock us out with a follow up effort to Lateralus.
That would be ok.

bonch
04-21-2006, 09:18 PM
i remember downloading some songs from "with teeth", the most recent nin album, before it came out and they were the main riff of the song minus various interludes, vocal sections, etc. it is very plausible to assume the leaked version is not complete.

I wish people would stop posting things like this. Obviously the tracks you downloaded were radio edits.

The album that leaked is the new Tool album. You guys need to accept this, or you will set yourself up for some major disappointment on May 2nd.