10000 days in the fire, what it means [Archive]

xpandnz

04-19-2006, 05:57 PM

Khaotic

04-19-2006, 06:42 PM

yes, there is another thread about this. wings for marie is about his mom whose name is judith marie.

edit: this song is an epic to me. like pushit and lateralus.

benjamin

09-13-2006, 07:26 AM

Chronicle0

09-13-2006, 12:22 PM

At this point in time, I don't know the exact details, dates n such, but maybe his mom was 'afflicted' for 10k days (app. 27yrs & 6 mo.). I guess I could look up how old MJK is and subtract 11 (possibly the age he was when mother first diagnosed) ....

Wada-yathink?

Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.

duncang

09-13-2006, 01:05 PM

I thought this was obvious?

Nietzsche's Dead

09-13-2006, 03:52 PM

Yeah you're right. Her mother was diagnosed when Maynard was age 11 (Look at Jimmy) and she was sick with the illness for approx. 10,000 days.

Yes, her mother..

Maynard, the female vocalist for the blues band TOOL. With a vag and all.

Useful)(Idiot

09-13-2006, 06:09 PM

a friend had told me that she was in a coma for a period of time during her sickness, i don't know if there is any truth to that, i haven't really researched it or anything. But if so, being in a coma could symbolize being in the fire.

Godin

09-14-2006, 01:29 PM

Fire is almost always used as symbolism for a purifying experience.

gambs666

09-29-2006, 02:17 AM

Fire could be the situation that Maynard's mother lived on the Wheel-Chair. But nevertheless I have an another vision of this verse. I think that can be generalized to all the people that had lived a bad life and then they're going home. Home as Heaven.

Chronicle0

09-29-2006, 05:47 AM

Yes, her mother..

Maynard, the female vocalist for the blues band TOOL. With a vag and all.

gah i mustve been half awake writing that post

Luosdasa

09-30-2006, 03:10 AM

Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.

Discuss

umm... duh.
hasnt this already been discussed endlessly, along time ago... and pretty much confirmed as correct as well?

ISITWA

09-30-2006, 03:27 PM

Do you think that he means that 10000 days in Hell for his mother while paralysed in her wheel chair. And then she finally gets set free, because she passed.
When i think about it this way I understand how beautiful this song is.

Its so haunting

Discuss

10000 days is tribulation you know the end of days disturbed named there cd 10000 fist and its all about the end of times. see maynard is john the Baptist of our time so bow down

]v[edusa

08-26-2007, 11:52 AM

Petroze

11-18-2007, 05:09 PM

All i can add is, where there's smoke there's fire!

Petroze

11-18-2007, 05:49 PM

Sorry, my computer just froze. I meant to add that i don't know about his mother, apparently she had a lot of faith in god and in Maynard. I have no idea about the rest.

Inner_Eulogy

11-20-2007, 10:22 AM

I thought this was obvious?

LOL, no kiddin

Master_Of_Nothing

11-25-2007, 08:25 PM

Yeah, this has been discussed so many times...
Maynards mother (Judith Marie) got paralysed with anuerisy (or something) when Maynard was 11 (hence Jimmy) and yes, she was a firm believer in God, and Maynard wasn't (hence Judith) and yes, she died roughly 10,000 days after this (hence 10,000 days and Wing for Marie)

Anything else i forgot?

ridedaspiralz

11-25-2007, 08:28 PM

lol yeh u forgot that its also bout how tool have been around for 10000days and this album is also about them and not just about maynard because he is nto the whole band only one member i think

Master_Of_Nothing

11-25-2007, 08:38 PM

oh, yeah i did forget something

Tool haven't been around for 10,000 days, cos otherwise Maynard would have been the 11 year old frontman for Tool

and sure, Maynard isn't the only band member, there's Danny Carey (drums), Justin Chancellor (bass) and Adam West (guitar), BUT he is the lyricist/vocalist so the songs are about things he percieves

And the album is not about Tool, its about what they think, see, hear, feel
(and taste perhaps)

Master_Of_Nothing

11-25-2007, 08:39 PM

Enough about Tool, lets discuss MY life, lol

rembrandt_q_einstein

11-26-2007, 01:12 AM

oh snap. i got it though

iAMtheMA!

11-26-2007, 05:35 AM

I thought this was obvious?

i'm inclined to believe that there's more of an 'occult' message behind the prose. "try and read between the lines"

Master_Of_Nothing

11-26-2007, 01:06 PM

You don't put hidden messages into your mum funeral song, thats just stink

iAMtheMA!

11-26-2007, 08:13 PM

well, perhaps judith represented the unconditional, regardless of whether she was mother or Mother. it has been THE grandest gesture i've ever witnessed.

Master_Of_Nothing

11-27-2007, 06:15 PM

Yeah i'll say. To have two songs, by an incredible band, sung in her memory....

toolrox19

07-22-2008, 06:30 PM

Yes, her mother..

Maynard, the female vocalist for the blues band TOOL. With a vag and all.

he/she did say in chicago '....and my vagina itches'

Master_Of_Nothing

07-24-2008, 08:59 PM

No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
That goes for guys with manginas.

Yast3r

07-24-2008, 09:08 PM

No chick could possibly hope to sing like maynard.
That goes for guys with manginas.

Joanie Laurer?

slamminsalmon

07-25-2008, 04:55 AM

lol at people taking the op with any seriousness.

Rolo

07-25-2008, 01:30 PM

lol at people taking the op with any seriousness.

It's the latest trend; search for dead threads and reanimate them with useless input.

Master_Of_Nothing

07-25-2008, 07:29 PM

Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.

*Loads shotgun* we'll be ready this time....

Yast3r

07-25-2008, 08:36 PM

Don't forget to cock it.

Rolo

07-26-2008, 02:49 PM

Kinda like necromancy, only not scary. Unless we happen to raise Styx's banned ass out of hell somehow.

*Loads shotgun* we'll be ready this time....

If Styx's ass would EVER raise from hell it'll be burned to ashes by now; no worries :)

Master_Of_Nothing

07-27-2008, 02:46 PM

I don't know.........You can choke on ashes..
I won't be happy till that guy is reduced to tiny byte sized bits lol

Hey Yast3r...*cock* *Breath*

subtlety is my second middle name

Esurient4Truth

07-27-2008, 03:28 PM

lol at people taking the op with any seriousness.

serious fucking business

Kody27

07-27-2008, 05:26 PM

and sure, Maynard isn't the only band member, there's Danny Carey (drums), Justin Chancellor (bass) and Adam West (guitar)

"Hey, someones stealing my water!" - Adam West, Family Guy

Master_Of_Nothing

07-28-2008, 04:04 PM

Lol i can't believe how long that took for someone to notice..... Do you people not watch family guy or something?

OrphanGrinder

07-20-2009, 08:52 PM

This is my first post on this site. Yeah, as discussed, the song is about Judith's paralysis. I consider this to be the most emotional song off of the new record. I think that is the reason for its absense from 2009's set list. Maynard has dealt with and sort of healed, and now the song is in the past for him. He has processed it, and to sinply recycle it and sell it again would undermine what it really means to fans, and more inportantly, Maynard. Anyway, I'm rambling. *&$% the government.

Master_Of_Nothing

07-20-2009, 09:18 PM

yeah, that would be the most likely reason for dumping it from the setlist.
However, i do think that it may return someday, for a commemoration tour/gig in her honour etc.

jenocide

01-25-2010, 08:34 PM

10,000 days in the fire...a trial by fire while on earth..only she has the right to walk straight in past the gates...tell em /father/son/spirit she's come home..mean'n skip judgment day...cause thru his/maynards eyes her life was hell/she never had a life never took a life never told a lie played by his/gods rules..rising to the height of angels/halo's and shouldn't be judge again having already lived thru the trial once

Rolo

12-22-2010, 02:57 PM

It's the latest trend; search for dead threads and reanimate them with useless input.

Trend's still going strong, imo

mcnadd

12-22-2010, 10:25 PM

lol

Rolo

12-13-2011, 02:14 PM

taking it for granted?

Trend's still going strong, imo

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frater H

04-28-2012, 11:32 PM

maybe its got to do with the transmutation of the soul to asend into the next plane of existence

iAMtheMA!

04-29-2012, 03:18 AM

maybe its got to do with the transmutation of the soul to asend into the next plane of existence

could be. whenever tool uses the word "enough" it usually refers to a golden cut of some sort, by some fashion of the metaphor. see: goldilocks and three bears. prison sex [also mentions "soul" specifically], stinkfist, schism, lateralus, and 10,000 days all have the word "enough" at crucial points in each track. the -1&1+ idea comes to mind - the parabola/WINGS born of the zero-point parabol/HEART (i.e. unconditional). yin, yang = s-curve, the balance being that little "ampersand" ...betwixt the air itself! ...between the sounds ...the ZERO-point we see on all those smashing pumpkin t-shirts and depicted before the "where is my mind?" track is played in fight club. transmutation. all of this seems very alkhemical.

ratm's snakecharmer had "you are ...26 years in this stage" ...but i'm not sure it meant anything other than 26 years from 1970 = release of evil empire. idk.