R.I.P Layne! [Archive] - The Tool Page: Opinion

junkie

04-19-2006, 12:58 PM

IF
I
WOULD
COULD
YOU
WRONG

Heh, it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek but there ya go.
http://www.apa.org/topics/controlanger.html

awaking

04-19-2006, 01:03 PM

some of the guitar distortion or something reminds me of Alice in chains..

phreak03

04-19-2006, 01:08 PM

Layne is GOD

eonphi

04-19-2006, 01:38 PM

hbynoe

04-19-2006, 01:39 PM

:) i thought that then shook it off :)
nice

junkie

04-19-2006, 01:45 PM

This is the first record Tool have brought out since Layne's death right? And we all know MJK had love for the boy.

magnolia

04-19-2006, 04:13 PM

according to someone's avatar here LAYNE STALEY IS GOD

Lennon

04-19-2006, 04:44 PM

some of the guitar distortion or something reminds me of Alice in chains..

The Pots music reminded me of AiC also (Facelift AiC).

But about Layne. I dunno, dont get me wrong Layne had great vocals on Would? but the song was lyrically and musically written by only Jerry Cantrell. Youd Figure he'd use Laynes words, who knows though.

Hooker with a Third Eye

04-19-2006, 04:53 PM

layne is sweet! but ya you would think hed use his lyrics if it was to be a tribute or anything...

chalk_line

04-19-2006, 10:18 PM

when i first heard that line i thought of AIC too..

One Dark Flame

04-19-2006, 10:19 PM

This is the first record Tool have brought out since Layne's death right? And we all know MJK had love for the boy.
How do we know this?? What have you heard??

Chuck_Of_Wah

04-19-2006, 11:34 PM

Layne Staley is DEAD is what he is...

brokin6

04-20-2006, 12:28 AM

Amazing song either way. I can't wait to hear this live. It's alot heavier than i imagined so i got a chubby when i heard it. LOVE the heavy stuff. Really shows that Adam has been surpassing anything i would have imagined.

Opiate_Mass

04-20-2006, 06:18 AM

This is the first record Tool have brought out since Layne's death right? And we all know MJK had love for the boy.
umm, yeah....... but everyone had love for Layne

phreak03

04-20-2006, 06:24 AM

according to someone's avatar here LAYNE STALEY IS GOD

Yea that's me :D

thejesus

04-20-2006, 06:28 AM

hmmm...those are actually Jerry's lyrics though...not Laynes...thoguh the song is abou the death of that singer from Mother Love Bone

Bob_Marley_Wannabe

04-20-2006, 07:08 AM

some of the guitar distortion or something reminds me of Alice in chains..

this whole album sounds like type o negative butt raped pink floyd whilst alice in chains looked on.........

tabula.rassa

04-23-2006, 08:57 PM

hbynoe

04-23-2006, 09:30 PM

this whole album sounds like type o negative butt raped pink floyd whilst alice in chains looked on.........
nice

Lennon

04-24-2006, 04:27 AM

good stuff...

has anyone heard mjk doing the AiC songs during the tribute to Layne that was posted here a long time ago? i believe it was "them bones" and "man in the box" that he made an appearance on...

He sang Them Bones, Man in the Box, and sang a tad of Rooster (everybody joined in on that one).

TheDog

05-19-2006, 11:46 AM

hmmm...those are actually Jerry's lyrics though...not Laynes...thoguh the song is abou the death of that singer from Mother Love Bone

True but as any Alice fan with remnants of a brain can tell you, it has now come to be ironically about Layne - "so I made a big mistake, try and see it once my way," etc.

It never occured to me that Jambi is about Layne, or the possibility that it is. Sunshine is one of my favorite AIC songs - I always say that when the chorus of that song comes around, if you're playing it loud enough the sun will come up and flood your living room....

"Sweet Love, my labor..."

The Dharma Bum

05-19-2006, 11:56 AM

If anything, those lyrics made me think of Jane's Addiction, not Alice in Chains.

Aggroculture

05-19-2006, 12:57 PM

I thought of AIC also, the first time I heard this.
No reason why it shouldn't be Maynard's personal tribute.

opiated

05-19-2006, 01:21 PM

Maynard's vocals do have a slight Staley-ish twinge to them on "Liapan Conjuring" and, yes, during certain points of "Rosetta Stoned."

I think his performance with AIC for the Tsunami Relief show was execelent. His vocal range was closer to Layne's than anyone else performing with Jerry and the gang for that show.

Also, didn't Layne and Maynard perform "Opiate" together during some point in time on the road?

Although I doubt "Jambi" being about Layne, I would not doubt that, since Layne died during the band's downtime, Staley and AIC may have become an influence to Maynard. After all, the band has stated that they absorb that many more different influences between albums.

Warartist

05-19-2006, 01:54 PM

this whole album sounds like type o negative butt raped pink floyd whilst alice in chains looked on.........

i'm sorry, i dont hear type o in this album... i dont get that in anything tool.
ya and layne n maynard were buddies but i doubt this songs about him.

R.I.P. layne

wish you had'nt let the junk get the better of you.

mandy

Warartist

05-19-2006, 01:56 PM

aggroculture i like your avatar.

Leandrenos

05-19-2006, 01:56 PM

Respect for layne

Aggroculture

05-19-2006, 02:03 PM

Lipan Conjuring isn't Maynard...it's Bill McConnell

aggroculture i like your avatar.

Thanks. The original pic is at:

http://www.galanteana.dk/thirdeye.jpg

magdalena.

05-19-2006, 02:04 PM

Lol. 3 words, far-fetched.

nooltavy

05-19-2006, 02:18 PM

Anyone else think the music right before the "Don't know, Won't know" part at the end of Rosetta Stoned sounds just like the intro to "We Die Young" by AiC? Everytime I hear that part I start singing, "Scary's on the wall..." :)

<3 for LS

Hooker with a Third Eye

05-20-2006, 05:25 AM

^^ i think that too

Choice Breath

05-20-2006, 06:41 AM

I thought about this too. I even thought that maybe Layne looked like Jambi from Pee Wee's Playhouse because of the way dope made his eyes look (your pupils become pin-points). There's a bootleg out there where Maynard introduces Layne (this was when Layne came out and sang Opiate with them) as "needlenose ned, ned the head, ned Ryerson" which is a line from Groundhog's Day. What that has to do with it I don't know. When it gets to the part of Jambi where he sings "but you changed that all for me . . . " it doesn't seem to fit. The song could be about more than one thing, that's for sure. Maynard did say in an interview that the album was about "schaudenfreunde" or something like that. That means "two-faced" or something similar.

mike09

05-20-2006, 07:27 AM

AIC kicked major ass.

A groan

05-20-2006, 07:30 AM

I find it funny that most of the poster here problably didnt knwo you were writing the lyrics to Would.

Unstuck in Time

05-20-2006, 08:06 AM

Maynard did say in an interview that the album was about "schaudenfreunde" or something like that. That means "two-faced" or something similar.
No. He said the song "Vicarious" was about "Schadenfreude".
And Schadenfreude is the joy you get from watching someone's harm.

Aggroculture

05-25-2006, 07:49 PM

The solo reminds me of the lead to 'Man In The Box' bye AIC.
Fuck it, AIC is all over this song.

pneuma

05-27-2006, 05:41 AM

Layne 4-evah

inSin

05-29-2006, 01:38 PM

http://www.myspace.com/livealice

weesper

05-30-2006, 02:04 PM

I just wanted to state that I thought of AIC as well, plus I usually tell friends of mine when some lyric sounds like something I know 'he that sounds just like...., change it' so maybe what I saying is you're on to something just cuz he left it in cuz it made special reference

ps yes long live the memory of Layne

or as one shirt read which I still think is excellent 'from the band that gave you would?'

skane

05-31-2006, 05:40 AM

watching AIC live last friday gave me the chills...Would? (if i had a soundtrack for my life,this might be track nr. 2 or 3),Junkhead,Man in The Box,Godsmack,We die young,RAIN WHEN I DIE,etc etc... f***ing amazing!
can't even start to imagine what would be like to see the real thing,i.e Layne 'Cries from the bottomless pit' Staley

and a few hours later Tool played Jambi,of course,and to be honest didn't really remind me of AIC at all...but after seeing that thought here on the board I can understand why some people establish that connection..and i like the idea of being about Layne.

-by the way,Jambi is one of the top 3 from 10,000Days (IMO) but when played live, has such an incredible energy...like if it had a life of it's own.unbelievable

Scarlett

05-31-2006, 06:08 AM

Alice in chains -6 07 2006- but without Layne so it isn't "full" band I'm not gonna be there nobody can replace him

One Dark Flame

05-31-2006, 09:44 AM

Alice in chains -6 07 2006- but without Layne so it isn't "full" band I'm not gonna be there nobody can replace him
Got that right!!

morgoth's shadow

06-02-2006, 09:59 AM

Layne is GOD
proof that god is dead.

Bloody

06-02-2006, 10:03 AM

"GOD IS DEAD AND NO ONE CARES!!!" - Trent Reznor

Metalgod666

06-02-2006, 10:16 AM

If there is a hell I'll see you there

Alice in Chains rules, well actually ruled. AIC is just fucking wrong without Layne. Jerry shouldn't be re-uniting them. Layne was an ir-replaceable frontman. It'd be like replacing Maynard. No one wants that

The_Flood

06-02-2006, 10:53 AM

this whole album sounds like type o negative butt raped pink floyd whilst alice in chains looked on.........

I don't hear Type o' Negative in the new Tool cd at all, sounds nothing alike to me.