DECOY

[reign3]

I'm not saying whether I believe this or not. But you should all check this out. I wouldn't post this if I thought it was total garbage.

From the newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_09.php

Now where was I?.. Oh yeah, TOOL!.. I'm not going to reveal my source, Mister Patience, but do you want to know the kind of things that have been going on while this record was being recorded? Okay, first there was the decoy record just to confound all those would-be bootleggers out there. This took, oh, about a year, just because the band members wanted it to sound pretty close to the real thing (so as to be believable), along with equally believable art design.

Sorry if this has already been posted.

[Boozy Eulogist]

I liked when he thanked people for putting out fakes for them, so that they would not have to write up some mock songs.

[I_kNOw_THE_I]

hasn't anybody learned anything about blair in the past decade? the man has a sense of humour.

quit posting shit about this being a hoax, it isn't.

if you don't like that, sorry, this is what they made.

[Etch_Coli]

Holy shit. If THIS is the decoy? I am more than happy hearing the real thing. There are some things on this album that are unbelievable.

[toocooltool]

lol

if this is all a hoax I'm happy.

TWO AMAZING RECORDS!

Quoted for KNOWING WHATS WHAT!! what what

[reign3]

I personally don't think this is a decoy. Who the fuck spends a year on a decoy album just for a laugh? And Blair is hardly a reliable source.

[vyparhz]

yeah McRoggles knows whats up. hopefully we are all shocked and it is a hoax. imagine a second cd with all new material!

maybe it'll be the supposed last 2 records or their 3 record deal. im highly doubting this tho.

[anaphoria]

i haven't even downloaded the one that leaked today.. but i'm still hoping it a hoax, so we could have both. and be completely fuckign surprised when the real one comes out. oh tool. so coy.

[reign3]

I recall Tool, from past articles, saying that they had a lot of left-over material from Lateralus. So who thinks any of this album remotely resembles anything from Lateralus?

[Lagomorph]

i think vicarious sounds shitloads like lateralus, but the remaining songs have blatant uses of aenima songs.

-46 and 2 main riff in the end half of the pot
-wings parts 1 and 2 is the live schism intro guitar part
-right in two is pushit live in the middle
-guitar part of H. and end of 46 and 2 are in rosetta stoned (i think its that one)

[vyparhz]

i am yet to here it but have read alot of peoples posts connecting certain tidbits in 10,000 days to old material... could be a collection of 10+years of unreleased schtuff??

hard to say without hearing it myself, gets released next saturday here in Aus. should be an interesting day

[Lagomorph]

i mean come on guys, when you hear lateralus, can you hear any similarities to aenima?

it is a different sound.

10 000 days is a blatant tool medley.

[Vicenza]

frankly...fuck it, blair fucks around with us enough that at this pont, i'm actually down with the decoy theory. i'm listening to jambi right now and it rocks, and i've heard wings for yada yada parts. 43 and 44.... but come on.

this ...is...not...tool. nor is it evolution. it's just, so ....tool not being tool while trying to sound like tool. while leaving so many questions on the table. and many of you know this! you know these guys will know you and i feel this happening....

look i know it's crazy, and it sounds like pure denial given the leak, particularly from a business perspective for an album within 2 weeks of release.... but, these guys are such masters at their craft unlike most anything you can find out there...i just find it painfully hard to believe their "growth" or evolution would suddenly (yes, i know, it's been 5 years, but album to album i mean) go from lateralus to this pink floyd carbon copy jam.

i am dying for may 2nd to come so i can just shut up and take 10K days as the real album title, and deal with it. but until then, my eyes and ears will be skeptical towards what we've just been handed., particularly given the amount of security surrounding this release.....

[Cronos]

I personally don't think this is a decoy. Who the fuck spends a year on a decoy album just for a laugh? And Blair is hardly a reliable source.

However, I, on the other hand, have always been.

[Lagomorph]

However, I, on the other hand, have always been.

this is absolutely very true.

[Alexandra]

it's just, so ....tool not being tool while trying to sound like tool.Winner.

[Cronos]

Hey Alexandra.

[ApathyX]

Theres a riff in rosetta stoned that sounds strikingly similar to a riff in third eye as well

[Alexandra]

Cronos--we actually agree on something.

*universe implodes*

[Ocelot199]

HEY I JUST HAD AN AWSOME IDEA MAYBE THIS ALBUM ISA DECY WHAT DO YOUI ALL THNK ABUT THAT?>

EdDIT: SORRRY IF THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES ALREADY

[Alexandra]

Dude. Go post in the anti-conspiracy threads. That's what they're there for. I'm sure they'd welcome you.

[Cronos]

Cronos--we actually agree on something.

*universe implodes*

I know, I think I wanna marry you now.

[Ocelot199]

I know you guys mean well and are grasping at straws, but unless Tool have created 2 albums, 10,000 Days to be released May 2nd and something else to be released shortly afterward that nobody has heard anything about, it is completely impossible to suddenly change all given information about a release 9 days before its street date.

[Alexandra]

That's what Thrak said if I was "right" about the hoax conspiracy.

[Ocelot199]

That's what Thrak said if I was "right" about the hoax conspiracy.
Huh?

[Alexandra]

To Cronos, you dolt.

[Ocelot199]

To Cronos, you dolt.
Usually when you post directly after somebody without quoting anyone who posted previously, you're suppose to assume that the post was in reply to the one directly before it.

You dolt.

[Cronos]

I think she meant that Thrak proposed to her also, which makes me very jealous of course.

[Alexandra]

Ocelot, I think you could've put 2 and 2 together.

EDIT: Please, Ocelot, do not respond to my above statement by going through the trouble of trying to prove me wrong with examples of how my earlier post could have been a response to yours, and that it was my fault in allowing the confusion to continue. I don't give a shit. I didn't go to bed last night and I failed to click the "REPLY W/ QUOTE" button.

Jesus Christ.



EDIT NO. 2: Thank you for refraining yourself from the commencement of the above situation.

[Ocelot199]

Ocelot, I think you could've put 2 and 2 together.
Considering what this thread is proposing, I wouldn't put my money on that...

[Alexandra]

Then GTFO.

[Tertius Oculum]

Considering what this thread is proposing, I wouldn't put my money on that...

Why is it so hard to believe? I mean honestly, don't you feel like there is something odd about the leak?

Also, thinking about it, didn't Adam say that in July they are releasing something else? What if it really isn't the DVD, and it's the REAL ALBUM? And the DVD would be released later this year?

[Perseensilmä]

Odd? Do you mean that it smells fishy or something?

Haha, fishy smelling leak, hehehehehe.

[eddie75]

It would be cool to go to the store on the 2nd and get a totally different set of songs. I like the leaked album, but have quite a bit of trouble getting into a few of the songs.

[tangent]

I'm not saying whether I believe this or not. But you should all check this out. I wouldn't post this if I thought it was total garbage.

From the newsletter:

http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/2005_09.php



Sorry if this has already been posted.

Posted it ages ago, was shouted down.

[Perseensilmä]

It would be cool to go to the store on the 2nd and get a totally different set of songs. I like the leaked album, but have quite a bit of trouble getting into a few of the songs.

that´s just because you are a mongoloid, like symbiosis.

[DrunkFunk]

I HAVE NOT listened to the leaked "album" yet but thought this was interesting, maybe some people who have listened to it can confirm anything.

From Kabir's review I had read yesterday
Interestingly, "Lost Keys (Blame Hoffman)" is also a segue of sorts, though it's three minutes or so long. Vaguely "Faaip de Oiad"-like. An instrumental soundscape with a long dialogue sample (from a movie?) buried within. The doctor, the patient, the visitor, all interacting.

I am not denying anything, after reading this I remembered from previous news posted on toolband.com about him visiting a studio on Dec 04
The dramatic arrangement itself was about eighteen minutes long, and I would have to say, even after having only heard it once (and, more importantly, without the vocals) it was the most impressive piece I’ve heard them do. I could only imagine what it was going to sound like with Maynard’s vocals, which he was working on from the other side of the glass. I asked what the working title of this organized pandemonium was and Justin told me. Even though the name could and probably would change when Maynard was finished with the lyrics, I’m not at liberty to reveal the working title (in case it sticks), only to say that the initials are L.K. When they finished the song there was dead silence in the room. Adam then glanced at me and said that it (meaning the arrangement) wasn’t quite finished yet. “NO – it IS!” I told him, just messing with him, knowing that he is the consummate perfectionist. “That’s the new single” I joked, after guessing how many minutes long it was (after all, it might have only been fifteen minutes).


Considering Kabir mentions Lost Keys being a segue of sorts and only 3 minutes long, do you think there is anyway the initials L.K and Lost keys from 10, 000 days have a link?

Decoy or not, I'm waiting for May 2nd and whatever it is, it will blow my mind.

[Ocelot199]

Then GTFO.
Don't strain yourself. I wasn't making a personal attack on you, don't make one on me. It was a misunderstanding... don't blow your load over it.

I've posted in a few of the other 30 threads that have suggested the same thing as to why I don't think this is a decoy album. Maybe there is something else that we haven't been told about, but as far as whats going to be released on May 2nd... this is it. Check all the other threads for my proof.

[F!end]

I HAVE NOT listened to the leaked "album" yet but thought this was interesting, maybe some people who have listened to it can confirm anything.

From Kabir's review I had read yesterday


I am not denying anything, after reading this I remembered from previous news posted on toolband.com about him visiting a studio on Dec 04



Considering Kabir mentions Lost Keys being a segue of sorts and only 3 minutes long, do you think there is anyway the initials L.K and Lost keys from 10, 000 days have a link?

Decoy or not, I'm waiting for May 2nd and whatever it is, it will blow my mind.


Old "L.K." = New "Wings"+"10.000 Days"

[mmortal03]

10,000 Years, only available as an import, will be the real album. ;)

[RED_THE_HAT]

If you take the time to read into the whole news letter a bit more, I think he was being sarcastic

[*see*you*auntie*]

Old "L.K." = New "Wings"+"10.000 Days"

Old L.K. arrangement is Lost Keys + Rosetta Stoned.

[Seethus]

LOL you idiots...
you realise Blair is reading this laughing his ass off? :D

[*see*you*auntie*]

LOL you idiots...
you realise Blair is reading this laughing his ass off? :D

Exactly. I can only imagine what the band's reaction is.

[JeffSnow]

the band is shaking thier heads going *sigh*

[F!end]

Old L.K. arrangement is Lost Keys + Rosetta Stoned.

Yeah, you're right. =)

[Alexandra]

Don't strain yourself. I wasn't making a personal attack on you, don't make one on me. It was a misunderstanding... don't blow your load over it.I wasn't truly being serious, but alright, cool.

[Nikola Petrovic]

the band is shaking thier heads going *sigh*

Or they are nodding their heads going *yay*

[D-Day_Daddy]

Just a question; why is it that like 11 days from the release date, and with the single out over the radio, Amazon still has No track listing or sound samples? By the way, how did the album leak anyway? Just curious.

[eddie75]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EPFPVU/sr=8-12/qid=1145547269/ref=pd_bbs_12/002-6243817-7000803?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[D-Day_Daddy]

This was suppose to reinforce my point, right?