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pris0n
04-18-2006, 05:27 PM
It seems like this song doesn't fit with the rest of the album. Is there some meaning behind I'm missing that you guys have picked up on already?

Khadgar346
04-18-2006, 05:32 PM
I agree =[

stinkfish
04-18-2006, 05:38 PM
I laughed when I heard it

maybe that's what you missed

Holydirt
04-18-2006, 05:42 PM
I like it, but I agree that it doesn't fit great.

FistFck
04-18-2006, 05:44 PM
i mean you could say rosetta stoned and wings pt 1 n 2 dont fit together either.

drape
04-18-2006, 05:49 PM
what is going on in this song?

orbitalchime
04-18-2006, 05:51 PM
what is going on in this song?

I think I said that to myself at least a couple times throughout my first listen of the album

xmorteferoz
04-18-2006, 06:10 PM
I thought it was pretty funny. I like the awkward un-Lipan screams near the end.

Good shit.

spiralout11235
04-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Weird ass track. Is this the Harry Manback of this album?

FistFck
04-18-2006, 06:19 PM
incase anyone missed it, lipan is some kind of american indian tribe (correct me if im probably wrong) and this is a chant that they do, minus maynard in the background throwing in the yell.

Agenda
04-18-2006, 06:31 PM
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84 pontiac dream
04-18-2006, 06:46 PM
incase anyone missed it, lipan is some kind of american indian tribe (correct me if im probably wrong) and this is a chant that they do, minus maynard in the background throwing in the yell.

i loved that...for a minute there it sounded like a drunk danny carrey with a shotgun ready to shoot a fucker....

HolyReality
04-18-2006, 06:54 PM
Weird ass track. Is this the Harry Manback of this album?
yes. but this is better.

absolutezero
04-18-2006, 06:58 PM
I enjoyed it, and felt right at that time, straight after The Pot.

dracomordag
04-18-2006, 07:19 PM
yes. but this is better.
nah... Harry Manback was actually a worthwile song, seperate from the humor.

this song is just crazy wierd/funny. i hated it first time through, now i just laugh. that yell at the end is hilarious. "hey adoni!!!"

Ertai
04-18-2006, 07:28 PM
its a real chant to summon the spirits.. i think its a great segue into lost keys/stoned

i feel 'the pot' is defently the black sheep... the intro is like so ***

whats so fun about peace love and understanding

slicknickshady
04-18-2006, 07:29 PM
it's nice.

FlamingEye
04-18-2006, 07:34 PM
"what the fuck is this" is what I thought when I herd this song or whatever it is

FistFck
04-18-2006, 07:37 PM
i knew that it was the conjuring from some american indian tribe... i was just curious to see how it would fit in... and in a sense it does, this one, and the next three songs seem to focus on aliens/and with what blair wrote about the rock, this track would tie in with alien encounters...

The Let Down
04-18-2006, 07:55 PM
best song on the album

Dispatch
04-18-2006, 07:55 PM
I for one like it a lot, it's a neat break in the pace of the album. I could actually see them opening a show with this.

Systolic
04-18-2006, 07:58 PM
I love this song, honestly. I found it hilarious and entertaining, which is what its all about, right?

babbletonic
04-18-2006, 08:03 PM
best song on the album
you stole the words right outta my mouth

greghatesthekids
04-18-2006, 08:08 PM
native american fuck nuts.

Alcawhorlick
04-18-2006, 08:21 PM
It seems like this song doesn't fit with the rest of the album. Is there some meaning behind I'm missing that you guys have picked up on already?


Well, I actually have a bit of Lipan in my blood, and thanks to my grandfather, I know a pretty good amount of their language.
The lyrics of the chants are as follows:

starting at 0:20

American Spirits. Don't Smoke them.
They will kill you
Just as fast.
Penis.

drape
04-18-2006, 08:22 PM
best song on the album


LOL ya i was thinking the same

reverend resistor
04-18-2006, 09:44 PM
native american fuck nuts.

Sorry, I don't care if you're joking or not, but I saw this and had to respond.

It's not funny, it's stupid. You look like a complete moron. If that's what you want, so be it.

GTFO.

pris0n
04-18-2006, 09:46 PM
Well, I actually have a bit of Lipan in my blood, and thanks to my grandfather, I know a pretty good amount of their language.
The lyrics of the chants are as follows:

starting at 0:20

American Spirits. Don't Smoke them.
They will kill you
Just as fast.
Penis.

I hope you are serious and correct with this translation, because that would pretty funny.

Alcawhorlick
04-19-2006, 07:05 AM
I hope you are serious and correct with this translation, because that would pretty funny.


Nah, I made it up actually.
It might be something like that though. Probably chanting about cookie recipes or something

ladiatia
04-20-2006, 09:02 AM
Weird ass track. Is this the Harry Manback of this album?

The italian guy was way better than the indians stuff. I prefer what sepultura did in Roots with the Itsari tribe.

question93
04-20-2006, 09:26 AM
Lipan is an almost extinct dialect of the Apache, and is a Southern Athabaskan language. The track is obviously a conjuring of some sort. The question, of what, and why?

I can come up with some ideas in relation to Lost Keys, as well as coming out of the Pot.

Ain Soph
04-20-2006, 12:15 PM
Its the Doors. They are in the desert.

ArizonaBay
04-20-2006, 03:26 PM
I thought it fit the atmos of the album well, in a very strange way though. I think you all might agree after a few listens that it makes a weird kind of sense.

molehill
04-20-2006, 05:27 PM
Well, I actually have a bit of Lipan in my blood, and thanks to my grandfather, I know a pretty good amount of their language.
The lyrics of the chants are as follows:

starting at 0:20

American Spirits. Don't Smoke them.
They will kill you
Just as fast.
Penis.

Ahahahaha!!!

Nice.

Reflectionr
04-20-2006, 06:28 PM
I wish there was some percussion on this track, kinda thought it would be indian chanting with some wickedness from Carey.

bonch
04-22-2006, 10:38 PM
I played the track for my friend, who remarked, "All I heard there was Maynard's ego."

Rosette feasted
04-23-2006, 02:33 AM
Well, I actually have a bit of Lipan in my blood, and thanks to my grandfather, I know a pretty good amount of their language.
The lyrics of the chants are as follows:

starting at 0:20

American Spirits. Don't Smoke them.
They will kill you
Just as fast.
Penis.
These would be the best lyrics on the album!!!

toocooltool
04-23-2006, 06:29 AM
These would be the best lyrics on the album!!!

YEA!





























[no]

Anr149
04-23-2006, 10:06 AM
I believe it is put before lost keys and rosetta stoned because when many tribes, such as the lipan, have rituals they use halucinogens to "conjure" spirits and things and the next song is about a guy ending up in a hospital on LSD and then is followed by rosetta stoned which is also about using LSD.... thats just my take on why they put the song where they did..

hbynoe
04-23-2006, 10:07 AM
uh..they are being stupid and funny
when i heard it i about peed myself
so silly :)

seneca77
04-24-2006, 12:10 PM
this track is danny carrey's track. it is about a lipan exorsism according to an interview posted on this site, done with lipan apache's.

nice to see tool has attracted fans that think native americans are comedic. no wonder we have pro sports teams called the redskins, indians, chiefs, braves etc....

MorfiusX
04-24-2006, 12:25 PM
this track is danny carrey's track. it is about a lipan exorsism according to an interview posted on this site, done with lipan apache's.
I was about to reply with this...

I think the thought here is extremely under-developed. This track could have been so much more. The thought behind it is solid, but it's not taken to the same level as other Tool segues.

pussErox
04-25-2006, 08:18 AM
i read somewhere online it is danny and one of his friends (not in the band). it is some sort of an indian ritual that has to do with moving the spirit out of the body after death. ill try to get the link. i was in the middle of reading it, and firefox shutdown on me, and i havent been able to find the fukin page since.

spiiiral
04-25-2006, 01:01 PM
I played the track for my friend, who remarked, "All I heard there was Maynard's ego."

lol

i dont agree

but i think the comment is still hilarious

well done to your friend

WilliamGraves
04-27-2006, 04:28 AM
Its the Doors. They are in the desert.

ahahaha Nice observation....

seneca77
04-27-2006, 06:24 AM
I love this song, honestly. I found it hilarious and entertaining, which is what its all about, right?

no thats not what its all about. this song is a Lipan exorcism. to ward off evil. that was in an interview with danny. as far as the yell in the end, i think that is the moment of exorcism

jitbox
04-27-2006, 10:46 AM
"The Pot" has something to do with an Indian Chief named "Black Kettle." He was a peacemaker who was killed for his efforts.

The "Liar, Lawyer" part in The Pot jibes with this perfectly, as I'm sure some of the pacts he signed were broken.

While he was Cheyenne and not Apache, I still feel as though there's some link.

Anyway, you can check this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Kettle) out if you feel interested at all.

seneca77
04-27-2006, 07:38 PM
not to debate you or flame you at all, but i think the pot may be speaking of the retard king.

retard king = gwb

Warartist
04-28-2006, 11:02 PM
they are not being stupid or funny. look up the lipan indians, also look up the history of jambi, here i'll do it just look at these links o.k.
mandy


http://www.jambiexplorer.com/content/History.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/apach.htm

rocco
04-28-2006, 11:21 PM
jitbox and warartist: thanks for the links!

'Black kettle' was a line that had seemed out of place to me. It reads a lot more clearly now.

btaw
04-28-2006, 11:48 PM
Surely the song represents the process that the narrator goes through that puts him into the state in which he is during 'Lost Keys'. Whether this is a transcedent spiritual state or a hallucinogen induced state I cant say.

This 'unknown' medical state he then goes on to explain in 'Rossetta Stoned' after being asked by the doctor to tell him whats going on?

Given that RS starts with him saying "Ok then, picture this if you will..." and then explaining his 'trip' and how he is the 'chosen one', I would have thought this narrative progression was common sense.

rocco
04-29-2006, 12:13 AM
Lipan Conjuring is my current favorite track. I just want to scream at the moon when I hear it.

YEAHEEYAHEYYY!!!!

Indians rocked before we did.

Warartist
04-29-2006, 08:44 AM
Lipan Conjuring is my current favorite track. I just want to scream at the moon when I hear it.

YEAHEEYAHEYYY!!!!

Indians rocked before we did.

yea....umm.....well, i kinda did.......;)

mandy