Vocals on Vicarious

[NoD]

What do you guys think of the singing? The music is fucking mindblowing, but Maynard has never sounded like this on another Tool album. I'm still soaking it in, it's unbelievable...

[toolloot]

vocals? Did I miss something?

[Boozy Eulogist]

I could see people being disapointed by this, but god damn. Everything is different...and the vocals are the most apperent.

THat bass is rattling like a beast.

[Havokb8]

I could see people being disapointed by this, but god damn. Everything is different...and the vocals are the most apperent.

THat bass is rattling like a beast.


The vocals are bad ass, lyrics remind me of songs from aenima, and the music, well i just had 4 heart attacks

[Systolic]

Its all amazing..
Best tool ever.

ever

EVER FUCKING EVER

[toolloot]

Crap. I missed something.

[profundo giallo]

im still getting used to the vocals being that low in the mix, but the musics mindblowing! and what about the la la la at the end? Thats different!

[JuhaDeWolf]

Maybe not ever. But still pretty fucking awesome.

The vocals are sweet, I'm loving this "guitar in the front" business, I mean... yes!
Sorry but I am in awe right now, and also turning the goddamned .wav into an mp3.

...honestly, who would've thought the single would leak in .wav format, what year is this, 1995?

[Mr.Rubberburner]

that is the best tool song ever...could be because we havent had any in 5 years. But I tell you....FUCKING A

[Lateralias]

Nope, I won't give in... I'm waiting but you guys sure as hell are make this fucking HARD!!!

[Havokb8]

that is the best tool song ever...could be because we havent had any in 5 years. But I tell you....FUCKING A


its really close to the best no, nevermind
it is

it combines my favorite elements of all the albums YEP INDEED THIS ONE IS BAD FUCKIN ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[layersbeyondimagination]

they said they wanted to make the vocals more like just another instrument rather htan standout, they did that.

[toolloot]

This is annoying. What the fuck happened?

[toocooltool]

it leaked.

[Havokb8]

This is annoying. What the fuck happened?

What happened?

Well we are all listening to vicarious

and you arent

[Kalamazoo]

i like it.

[Dredg]

the man is old, its ashame. But thats not even the worst part about the song.

The fact that the guitar is just bland. Adam is trying too hard to sound like Meshuggah and its not working welll.

edit: why does adam have a solo in it? it just doesnt need to be there....its stupid

[Havokb8]

it leaked.

too bad you talked shit about my irc channel we have had it for a while asshole

[WearingVans501s]

i wonder how it happened?

[WearingVans501s]

the man is old, its ashame. But thats not even the worst part about the song.

The fact that the guitar is just bland. Adam is trying too hard to sound like Meshuggah and its not working welll.


its started.,,,,,,,,,the influx of idiots.....do us all a favour and try not to ruin everyones mood k?

[toocooltool]

too bad you talked shit about my irc channel we have had it for a while asshole

What ur irc channel?

you proly had it since the first 12 yr old ***got went in there with his

t00lrfUxK1ngN3aT name

and ive had it for ages...

[sifted]

i love the vocals. the fact that they aren't easily understood, melted in the music. its perfect. every bit of it is just perfect.

[eleven11]

vocals are way to low
I know what the song is about though

[mike tyson]

lol it's schism pt. 2

[Jimmeny]

If I was trying to be completely neutral (which is hard because I love Tool), it is true that Adams little solos at the end don't really need to be there, he's never done stuff like that before and what he's added there is not really anything that fits into the style of the song that well.

The vocals are good, I like them alot, the added harmony that was there on Lateralus has been built upon and sounds very good, it feels like he's learned how to be angsty and emotive whilst being with APC and it works very well in this song, which is slightly more catchy than usual (which isn't a bad thing, often the word 'catchy' is thrown around as a disparaging comment, but I don't mean it so.)

The drums are as powerful as on Lateralus, infact better, but cos they gel with the rest of the band to create one full, bad ass sound as opposed to the 'fucking hell nice drumming' on LAteralus.

However, I don't like the chuggy section around the 6 minute mark, it's basically a "The Grudge" yoink. As artists I would have expected them to go 'nah, sounds abit like the grudge, lets try and rework it', but they didn't.

But what the fuck do I know?

[NoD]

im still getting used to the vocals being that low in the mix, but the musics mindblowing! and what about the la la la at the end? Thats different!

likewise. I have to get used to it too.

[slicknickshady]

I love it.

[praefector]

personally i like the mixed down vocals

the whole song and everything about it, minus the "lalalalie", part is amazing

[Holydirt]

Has anyone written/typed out the lyrics yet? I really wanna see em, but I can't write them out because I keep getting distracted by the music!

[Virginity Trey]

You'll have to look up lyrics to understand most of it. I like it.

[NoD]

Has anyone written/typed out the lyrics yet? I really wanna see em, but I can't write them out because I keep getting distracted by the music!

haha i was going to say something like that...you try to stop and listen to the lyrics but the music just sweeps you away :)

[InertGrudge]

I'm trying to get together lyrics. Pretty difficult though.

[Saltank]

"I need to watch things die, froom a good safe distance, vicariously, while the whole world dies.."

[Jimmeny]

I like the 'lalalala-lie' section, it does sound nice as a melody and the irony and cynicism in doing a 'la la la' section that is actually saying 'lie' is quite poignant.

[slicknickshady]

THE NEW ALBUM CANT COME SOON ENOUGH!

[Systolic]

Hey guys I have a theory behind why his vocals are back in the mix...

The point of the song, or so it seems to me is that the fabrication of the television ultimately desensitizes people and promotes laziness....

Maybe the mixed down vocals are a juxtaposition of the difficulty to see the "truth of it all" behind everything else?

Like - you cant hear Maynard well so you cant hear the point, just like you cant see the point on the television because of the lies and coverups it uses.

[peterpiper]

The vocals are very different. They are a bit too low in my opinion. I know they wanted to do that on purpose. But I wish they were a bit louder. Other than that, good stuff.

[InertGrudge]

"I need to watch things die from a good distance /
vicariously I am /
while the whole world dies."

I think that is the chorus. The word "safe" is added in the second chorus.

[Ertai]

schism , the grudge, i can hear soo many different elements.... maynards vocals are out there!!! its amazing...

[phreak03]

i love the lyrics...except for the la la la part

[NoD]

it's more like maynard is whispering instead of screaming....

[Madklikor]

i love the lyrics...except for the la la la part

We need to read the lyrics, but I think this part is ironic. I like it, we're all gonna sing this at the shows.

The last chorus/the end is quite high for Maynard. He hasn't lost his voice.

[Systolic]

This forum is like ROUGH CRAZY ANGRY VIOLENT SEX.

It was wild and crazy until the toolgasm.. now we're all luvvy duvvy...

:)

[Nirvanaholic]

This forum is like ROUGH CRAZY ANGRY VIOLENT SEX.

It was wild and crazy until the toolgasm.. now we're all luvvy duvvy...

:)

Haha. Spread the love baby.

[Systolic]

<3

[profundo giallo]

Well im spent now, listening to that is like shagging a woman youve always wanted and afterwards you just need a smoke and a kip.Night all.....its been educational! And the song fucking rocks!

[Dogzilla]

This forum is like ROUGH CRAZY ANGRY VIOLENT SEX.

It was wild and crazy until the toolgasm.. now we're all luvvy duvvy...

:)

:D

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

The song is so great it makes me want to vomit .

[HalfASandwidch]

The song is so great it makes me want to vomit .
Same. But I am sick so that might also be why I want to vomit.

[Light Reflections]

I love their placement in the mix. It all comes together perfectly.

So fucking good.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

I love their placement in the mix. It all comes together perfectly.

So fucking good.

I don't give a FUCK what any litle kids say - it is fucking ASTONISHING. These are completely self actualized human beings...

[gerbil]

"I need to watch things die from a good distance /
vicariously I am /
while the whole world dies."

I think that is the chorus. The word "safe" is added in the second chorus.

Pretty clearly, "Vicarious I live while the whole world dies."

[yasoon]

I don't give a FUCK what any litle kids say - it is fucking ASTONISHING. These are completely self actualized human beings...
Goddamn straight.

[Ertai]

i love how he doesnt say the words completely or fully... just as Alex Grey said something about Maynard singing in syllables, maybe he meant something like the vocals on Vicarious. To me i like how Maynards voice is in the back, the lyrics are harder to figure out so you have to listen to it more and more :)

[newrnewt]

i am the tv
cause tragedy thrills me
whatever flavour it happens to be
like your mother husband drop on the ocean
shot by his own son
he used the poison

dont look at me
like i am a monster
float out your one face but with the other

stare like a junkie into the tv
stare like a zombie


cause i need to watch things die
from a distance
vicariously i

you wont need to ??



i need to watch things
from a good safe distance

vicariously ... i

you wont feel the same so...

[newrnewt]

pretty obvious observation but i thought id share anyway

[Natalie Portman]

Well, the music kicks ass. It's missing any sort of actual emotion in the vocals. That's what I love about TOOL, their songs make you FEEL. This one does not do that very much for me. It's hard to convey emotion when you sing like that I guess.

[Bloody]

the vocals were actually striking to me. I like how subdued they were. I heard some people comparing his vocals to something a perfect circle would do but I don't hear that at all. I cant compare his vocals in this song to anything hes done.

[Idiotica]

hey just now when i read 'perfect circle' from your post the song from 'emotive' popped into my head - you know the hushed one with miniture piano in it? similar to what danny plays at the start of this one.

[Bloody]

hey just now when i read 'perfect circle' from your post the song from 'emotive' popped into my head - you know the hushed one with miniture piano in it? similar to what danny plays at the start of this one.

Passive?

[Anti-Xian]

i think it truly fits this song.

and since this is only 1 song, i dont think he'll do it for the entire album.

we all already knew that though.

[Idiotica]

NO SILLy it sounds just like 'Annihilation' off emotive.

[toology514]

EARGASM

[NoD]

I wonder how this song would have sounded with 'normal' maynard voice, I don't know why he changed his vocals so much? The only time I've heard him sing like this is during the "...Let the ocean take and transmutate..." part in The Grudge.

[dracomordag]

Maybe not ever. But still pretty fucking awesome.

The vocals are sweet, I'm loving this "guitar in the front" business, I mean... yes!
Sorry but I am in awe right now, and also turning the goddamned .wav into an mp3.

...honestly, who would've thought the single would leak in .wav format, what year is this, 1995?

or maybe, you know, people like high quality music?

[otb]

Maynard's voice sounds very different, but I think that it suits the song very well. His singing is very emotional here, the last 'Vicariously I live while the whole world dies' blew me away. As someone said - Maynard was singing his soul out. Probably he won't sing like this on the whole album, we all know how MJK can use different singing styles, depending on the context of the song. So, hell yeah, I like the vocals on Vicarious.

[weak&weary]

I'm reminded by "Hooker With a Penis" in this track, though something like an octave lower. It's really venomous, really chunky and thick. Really cool stuff.

[3poundsoflove]

singing lessons by Maynard J. Keenan

[vec]

the way he sings fits perfectly with the theme of the song

[s ti N Kfizt]

This is annoying. What the fuck happened?
hehhhhaahahahahaa. lol .. well i too readed old vicarious threads about 20 mins and then realized that everyone has already heard it and talk about it.

[Gajarigon]

I don't like the lyrics. I expected something more from a 42 year old man.

[Kev1326]

I'm begging, I want to hear it. I can't get the torrent cause I can't play torrents. I know I'm begging and being ignored like a noob, but I'm a hard core Tool fan. It's 5:16 in the morning for me. Please, someone help a fellow tool fan out and gimme a link to an mp3 version of it.

[delysid]

or maybe, you know, people like high quality music?

I'm glad someone said it. I was so ready to write a reply.

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Since when does Maynard have to stick to his "TOOL" voice as opposed to his "APC" voice? He's the fucking singer for both bands, he can sound like himself or however he chooses if he wants. People seem to make up fucking rules and guidelines that Tool have to follow apparently in order to recieve high regards.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

EARGASM
multiple

[Cemetery Shindig]

i am the tv
cause tragedy thrills me
whatever flavour it happens to be
like your mother husband drop on the ocean
shot by his own son
he used the poison



I think that's right except for the first line...which i think is "eye on the tv"

[Florida_Mike]

I mentioned this in another thread. The "lalalie" immediately follows the line about "singing to the death rattle." That context might make it a little easier to swallow for those of you who can't fathom why Tool would put something so, um, melodic in a song (which I don't get at all). It's kinda funny to see some people get all bent out of shape in fear that Tool might have gone soft (aka, "there's not enough screaming!!!!!!11!!11!). I remember reading about the "Meshuggah" influence and being a bit worried. Tool has always impressed with their iron fist/velvet glove abilities, I'd hate to see that lost in the name of doing something "hard"