that was quick

[zavlin]

I'm surprized nobodys done anything with the 3 or so several second sound bytes (from toolarmy)that clearly are from new songs.

[dracomordag]

yea, its miocene
dirtybanana leaked this on the 31st of March, trying to spread the word about Miocene and play an early april fools joke.

[lachrymoIogy]

i thought someone already mention that these WEREN'T miocene.

[Rosette feasted]

I'm surprized nobodys done anything with the 3 or so several second sound bytes (from toolarmy)that clearly are from new songs.
link?

[meshuggah]

yea, its miocene
dirtybanana leaked this on the 31st of March, trying to spread the word about Miocene and play an early april fools joke.

that was a different clip called autopia. these are NOT miocene. miocene doesnt even sound that much like tool and alot of they're songs have techno shit in them!

so.. once again NOT MIOCENE
go get the cd

[lachrymoIogy]

if you have heard it you should be with me.
seriously, i wish i could find that guitar track that was floating around here about 3-4 weeks ago as being real. it was so fake we all said it was fake
now just cause someone put a vocal track behind it its real? lol btw, that leak bannana put out...was eight days ago. not three weeks. what are you talking about?

[lachrymoIogy]

that was a different clip called autopia. these are NOT miocene. miocene doesnt even sound that much like tool and alot of they're songs have techno shit in them!

so.. once again NOT MIOCENE
go get the cd ty

[Vaginal Replicator]

Someone PM me a link of this little snippet of "Vicarious" going around, please.

[lachrymoIogy]

look in my aim profile. they're both there.

[zavlin]

link?

theyr played from the main page randomly. But theyr so small its almost not worth it. definitely some odd stuff though, next to other known songs.

[orange.juice]

theyr played from the main page randomly. But theyr so small its almost not worth it. definitely some odd stuff though, next to other known songs.
oooh that stuff again...

[kyyuulle]

fake

the vocals are out of tune with the song

would have been more believable if the faker could stay in tune

[dracomordag]

someone PM dirtybanana with the link to the clip.

he'll tell you what i have

[Vaginal Replicator]

Yea, I dunno, I'd say this is fake. The production is kind of sub-par, and the music doesn't flow as nicely as most tool usually does and how adam describes it in the guitar world interview.

And another thing, at the end of the clip, where some thought he said "Vicarious, Vicarious", he says "I can, I can."

[praefector]

the only thing throwing me off is the bass at parts it sounds off the beat but it might just be an odd signature...wont know for sure until it hits radio. vocals fit the "mixed down" descriptions weve heard...regardless...thanks to all who made this available

if its real, it sounds promising

[researchtriangle]

wrestled with conscience
wrestled with mind
folding under pressure
...?


that's what i get out of it anyways

[Grimface]

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/pron/V0085600.wav

hmmm

Whoa :o
It sounds very much like Tool. Very Toolish sound and all. I hope that this isn't another fake. I want this to be real. TOOL rocks!!!!

[Vaginal Replicator]

wrestled with conscience
wrestled with mind
folding under pressure
...? "Exploding like a mine?"

I can't, I can't, or I can, I can. Fuck, I dunno.


that's what i get out of it anyways


I just made the changes to your post. :-)

[Vaginal Replicator]

Nevermind, definitely not Exploding like a mine, it's folding like a..... ____

[lachrymoIogy]

if these clips are real, they're more than likely edits sent to the band from their engineer, after layering or whatever to get an approval on the progress. it sounds unmastered, and obviously wouldn't be taken from the final product. if it's real, it's not straight from the album.

[metalforever]

can i please get a pm of this?

[lachrymoIogy]

for the love of fucking god, read the god damn thread. there's no need to pm people for this shit, and this is the last time im saying this. the links are in my aim profile. go now.

[dracomordag]

wrestle with my conscience
wrestle with mind
always/all this under pressure
foggin' up mind

i can't
i can't
.

[amhx147]

amen

[amhx147]

i still think he is saying "vicarious" for the last 2 lines

[tcM_Emperor]

Someone PM me the fake tool song plz.

[Lost Keys]

look in my aim profile. they're both there.


if anyone believes this is tool. do yourself a favor and burn all your cds.

[amhx147]

if anyone believes this is tool. do yourself a favor and burn all your cds.


and ur logic behind it? listen, i know theres been alot of fake tracks. and im sure this has a really good chance at being fake as well... but if your going to denounce it as fake, then show some reasons... (ie miocene, or isis, or the drumming expo). cause if you had played maynards vocals for 30 seconds from the grudge before lateralus came out, i think 80 percent of the people would have said it was fake, specially if it was a shitty demo recording clip.

[Lost Keys]

and ur logic behind it? listen, i know theres been alot of fake tracks. and im sure this has a really good chance at being fake as well... but if your going to denounce it as fake, then show some reasons... (ie miocene, or isis, or the drumming expo). cause if you had played maynards vocals for 30 seconds from the grudge before lateralus came out, i think 80 percent of the people would have said it was fake, specially if it was a shitty demo recording clip.


30 seconds from the grudge before lateralus???


that was a fake too!

[AshleyKeenan]

Wrestle with a conscience, Wrestle with a mind. Falling under pressure, Falling out of line, Vicarious, Vicarious

[amhx147]

30 seconds from the grudge before lateralus???


that was a fake too!


:)

[Away in the sea of red]

PM me a link plz

[CarboZz]

PM me with the link please :)

[r4v3n]

can you pm me a link too please:)

[amhx147]

go to my AIM profile. Americommando462

[Madklikor]

Nevermind.

[amhx147]

nevermind as well then

[Anti-Xian]

Here's what i hear...

wrestle with your conscience
wrestle with mine/my....
folding under pressure
folding under mine/my.....
vicarious
vicarious

[amhx147]

yeah, thats what i hear as well.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

Here's what i hear...

wrestle with your conscience
wrestle with mine/my....
folding under pressure
folding under mine/my.....
vicarious
vicarious

Pretty damn close, some of it is just inaudible. And I guess that really is "vicarious" in there... You know the one with just the vocs sounds pretty crappy. But toss in the one with the guitar - it sounds SO MUCH better. Next project, who wants to sync them up and dub them LOL... nah, but I dunno. The music has amazing potential though.

[JuhaDeWolf]

Actually, I synched the vocal track over the guitar track. It worked out pretty nicely, and I have the link in my AIM profile.

[lachrymoIogy]

so no one has confirmed or denied this yet?

[JuhaDeWolf]

No it's pretty much denied, but it sounds cool and everyone wants the new album so badly. I say listen to 81st Chakra, but this works too.

[sur]

pm please....and I don't have aim and have no fucking idea what is aim.

[lachrymoIogy]

aol instant messanger...

[sur]

it's not very used in my country.


and thanks!

[Zeal_Love]

Sounds like he's saying "I carry on" to me instead of "Vicarious"

[sur]

I say not tool.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

If you can listen to the overlay that JuhaDeWolf made, that makes it ALOT better. If it's anything it's a demo, but it has MASSIVE potential. I guess we'll know in 9 days...

[Anti-Xian]

i mixed it both ways...just did a simple mix overlay and it syncs up damn near perfect without having to do anything...

i also matched up the vocal track to the opening sequence on the instrumental and made one track. it flows nicely.

i'm not sure what order they go really since the instrumental is cut short...who knows maybe at the cut on the instrumental it gets hard as fuck.

you people that say this isn't tool are bold. i have never heard another band come close to even being able to copy tools sound and this music here (if it's not tool) is by far the best in comparison that i've ever heard. my vote is it's tool.

[amhx147]

shit that sounds goood!

[amhx147]

i posted the overlay on my AIM as well

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

i mixed it both ways...just did a simple mix overlay and it syncs up damn near perfect without having to do anything...

i also matched up the vocal track to the opening sequence on the instrumental and made one track. it flows nicely.

i'm not sure what order they go really since the instrumental is cut short...who knows maybe at the cut on the instrumental it gets hard as fuck.

you people that say this isn't tool are bold. i have never heard another band come close to even being able to copy tools sound and this music here (if it's not tool) is by far the best in comparison that i've ever heard. my vote is it's tool.

That's what I'm thinkin - there are alot of reasons why I'm thinking it is. I've been following this board very close for a long time, granted I can't catch everything.

My list of reasons why I think it probably is Tool:

#1 that higher level of emotional expression that isn't in 99% of other music, is there.

#2 I've played guitar for ten years, and I'm very familiar with Adam's style. This sounds completely like him, to me. The bends, the sustains, the feedback, and the palm muted controlled picking. It's actually very similar to The Patient in parts just played at different timing and notes in different order. ALSO *it sounds to me like there is use of a volume control pedal*

#3 there are some subtle emotional nuances in the vocals, though they are rough, that sound like only Maynard can sound.

#4 The guitars are "to the fore".

#5 The ambient noises sound like pigs, and very similar to the stuff off of the Toolband intro.

#5 The vocs sound highly effected, like has been so often touted.

#6 It sounds a bit APC'ish which has been so highly touted.

#7 It sounds different and new.

#8 There is MASSIVE potential.

So when I was freaking out about this - I was not just freaking out for no reason. But still, I won't say it is them, that would be stupid. Also I think it's stupid to say it's not them, though.

[JuhaDeWolf]

i mixed it both ways...just did a simple mix overlay and it syncs up damn near perfect without having to do anything...

Yeah, um... last time I checked, I mixed that overlay.

[praefector]

yeah well done

something is still putting me off about that bass line though

like, this sounds good and all and it sounds like it could be a tool song...but it really mirros something any good musician trying to make a tool song could do on his own with magix or something.

in fact, this is going to make its way pretty far around the trade scene. so if it is a fake, kudos to whoever did it.

[bonus.cheese]

resurrect/ed conscience
resurrect/ed mind
All this fucking pressure
fucking up my

Vicarious
Vicarious


That's what I heard, except 'Vicarios' sounds more like 'Vicarion'.

I have both mp3's by the way. PM me or something if you want them.

[Anti-Xian]

Yeah, um... last time I checked, I mixed that overlay.

seeing as how i dont give a fuck and didn't go download aim to get it from you i used sound forge and made my own.

dont be a little douche bag. you did it first whoop-de-doo basil.

is it ok if i make my own mixes with the 2 tracks I have on MY harddrive? jesus fuckin christ!

[praefector]

im also not sure ive ever heard adam use delay like this before

it sounds pretty simple but cool.

[amhx147]

honestly though... this is i think the first thread where no one is ripping on eachother and throwing everything down the garbage drain. everyones been real positive and friendly about it. even though this might be fake.. its nice to get a thanks. preciate yall for keepin ur mind open bout this. 24 days :)

[amhx147]

seeing as how i dont give a fuck and didn't go download aim to get it from you i used sound forge and made my own.

dont be a little douche bag. you did it first whoop-de-doo basil.

is it ok if i make my own mixes with the 2 tracks I have on MY harddrive? jesus fuckin christ!


lol nevermind i must have skipped over this post by accident.

[ProdigyDub]

Some of you guys actually think this is the real song? Not only is it completely contradictory to AK's description, but it definitely would not be a logical choice for a 1st single.

[praefector]

honestly though... this is i think the first thread where no one is ripping on eachother and throwing everything down the garbage drain. everyones been real positive and friendly about it. even though this might be fake.. its nice to get a thanks. preciate yall for keepin ur mind open bout this. 24 days :)

the realization that new tool is upon is gets everyone into a good mood

even if, in the end, its just a bunch of fake wankery

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

honestly though... this is i think the first thread where no one is ripping on eachother and throwing everything down the garbage drain. everyones been real positive and friendly about it. even though this might be fake.. its nice to get a thanks. preciate yall for keepin ur mind open bout this. 24 days :)

LOL, ah come on guys

[amhx147]

its the best fake wankery yet.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

Some of you guys actually think this is the real song? Not only is it completely contradictory to AK's description, but it definitely would not be a logical choice for a 1st single.

Take a litle imagination and toss it on in. It is good sounds - if it were HIGHLY produced, it could sound amazing...

[praefector]

Some of you guys actually think this is the real song? Not only is it completely contradictory to AK's description, but it definitely would not be a logical choice for a 1st single.

i hadnt yet pegged this as vicarious because i didnt see the original post

does anyone remember or can paraphrase ?..

was it "here is some clips of vicarious from (insert possibly believablestory) ?

[amhx147]

thats what i like about it. its got alot of potential. even if this werent tool... it would be pretty interesting to find out who made it. i think it sounds great.

[amhx147]

i hadnt yet pegged this as vicarious because i didnt see the original post

does anyone remember or can paraphrase ?..

was it "here is some clips of vicarious from (insert possibly believablestory) ?



yea it was something along those lines. it got closed in like 5 minutes by the mods... hence the title of this thread.

[ProdigyDub]

Take a litle imagination and toss it on in. It is good sounds - if it were HIGHLY produced, it could sound amazing...

I'm not saying it sounds terrible--I'm saying there's no way this style of song would be the first single off a Tool CD. And it doesn't match the description.

[JuhaDeWolf]

seeing as how i dont give a fuck and didn't go download aim to get it from you i used sound forge and made my own.

dont be a little douche bag. you did it first whoop-de-doo basil.

is it ok if i make my own mixes with the 2 tracks I have on MY harddrive? jesus fuckin christ!

Haha, wow. That was a bit o' sarcasm in my post, but that doesn't translate well over the internet. Sorry about that.

Anyways, seeing as not everyone has AIM... can I do this? Am I allowed to do this?
I'm doing this.

http://media.putfile.com/Vicarious-Overlay

[praefector]

I'm not saying it sounds terrible--I'm saying there's no way this style of song would be the first single off a Tool CD.


i actually remember saying this exact thing after the first time i heard "schism"

not implying anything about the validity of the clip though

...just saying

[Anti-Xian]

I myself am curious as to who posted this originally (last tuesday???) or whenever it was and where they got them. i've been checking the boards pretty much every day and i somehow missed this original post where these came from.

[Anti-Xian]

JuhaDeWolf , sorry sometimes it's hard to pick on the tone of voice thru text. my bad :)

[amhx147]

i know this is kind of off subject, but if posted a song up here, would anybody be willing to try and ID it? ive been trying to find the name/artist for a very long time now.

[JuhaDeWolf]

JuhaDeWolf , sorry sometimes it's hard to pick on the tone of voice thru text. my bad :)

Yeah, that's why I advocate the use of sarcasm brackets. Just go like this...

George W. Bush is a [genious].

[amhx147]

http://media.putfile.com/Unknown-47

incase y'all are bored... if anyone knows the name or artist... it would help alot..

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

I'm not saying it sounds terrible--I'm saying there's no way this style of song would be the first single off a Tool CD. And it doesn't match the description.

Ah yeah I know. I think we are all in good spirits here, why shouldn't we be - WE WILL HAVE NEW TOOL IN 9 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I just am excited by this and I have my reasons for it which I have clearly stated. And IF there is one thing we have all learned from these masters of the musical realm, is it not that we shouldn't ever expect any typical formula from them?... I understand there is comfort in things not changing, but the truth of the matter is that they do change, and they always will. So I dunno, but if this is the new direction I will gladly accept it, personally.

[Anti-Xian]

http://media.putfile.com/Unknown-47

incase y'all are bored... if anyone knows the name or artist... it would help alot..

no fuckin' clue. sorry.

[JuhaDeWolf]

http://media.putfile.com/Unknown-47

incase y'all are bored... if anyone knows the name or artist... it would help alot..
Yeah you're gonna have a really hard time finding out the name to that one.

[ProdigyDub]

i actually remember saying this exact thing after the first time i heard "schism"

not implying anything about the validity of the clip though

...just saying

I can understand why you'd stay that, but Schism has a lot of energy and pretty radio friendly. Tool may evolve somewhat in style from album to album, but the criteria for what makes a good 1st single doesn't change much with time. This song (at least if it's anything like this one part) is the exact opposite of marketable and radio-friendly (not saying it's terrible).

[JuhaDeWolf]

Hey, anyone remember Kid A? Radiohead did a complete turnabout with that album compared to OK Computer.

I'm not hoping for this, but maybe 10,000 Days is Tool's Kid A.

[Kickstand]

After quite a few listens with my speakers cranked the vocals sound damn well like Maynard. Definitely the best clip of them all so far. Whatever the hell it is I can't stop listening to it.

[clavian]

I'd like the link please.

Thanks.

[praefector]

http://media.putfile.com/Unknown-47

incase y'all are bored... if anyone knows the name or artist... it would help alot..

if you look at the bottom of the media player applet it says

Nine Inch Nails


Unknown bonus track

Album: BLEED THROUGH

so id just call it "unnamed song"

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

if you look at the bottom of the media player applet it says

Nine Inch Nails


Unknown bonus track

Album: BLEED THROUGH

so id just call it "unnamed song"

Yeah if that is NIN, I'll eat my shoe. As rough as that is, it's still better than all the NIN I've ever heard lol, IMO of course...

[amhx147]

its not NIN. i know that for a fact. its labeled wrong

[HolyReality]

Yeah if that is NIN, I'll eat my shoe. As rough as that is, it's still better than all the NIN I've ever heard lol, IMO of course...
nine inch nails kick ass.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

nine inch nails kick ass.

Don't get me wrong, I think they're better than 99% of the rest of it. To me, personally though, they are just not up to par with Tool. That is not necessarily a bad thing. I just think Tool is off in some other place, that really, no other popular rock bands are. So I am not putting them down. I am, however, also not going to lift them up to where Tool is.

[Lost Keys]

apples and oranges anyone?

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

apples and oranges anyone?

I'll settle for fine South American Clementine Tangerines (Tool), and some worm eaten crab apples (NIN)... hahahhaha nah just kiddin =)

[el57]

AMHX that sounds like Ulver but I can't be sure. I have their album Perdition City and that sounds liek the shit they have on there but it isnt. But they have other albums so maybe its from a newer album or so. Anyway check Ulver out if you like that type of stuff

[HalfASandwidch]

I'm nice and late... Can someone pm me the link to this if it's still around?

[amhx147]

AMHX that sounds like Ulver but I can't be sure. I have their album Perdition City and that sounds liek the shit they have on there but it isnt. But they have other albums so maybe its from a newer album or so. Anyway check Ulver out if you like that type of stuff


thanks, ill look into it. its alot more than I already had. really appreciate it.

[lachrymoIogy]

I'm nice and late... Can someone pm me the link to this if it's still around? if you have aim, look in my profile, all the links are there. if not, tell me. i'll be glad to pm the links.

[HalfASandwidch]

if you have aim, look in my profile, all the links are there. if not, tell me. i'll be glad to pm the links.
It's cool I got PMed already. Thanks anyways.

[lachrymoIogy]

FINE! .. ::slides the barrel of a shotgun into my mouth::

[el57]

thanks, ill look into it. its alot more than I already had. really appreciate it.

Just remember that their early albums were black metal in case you download one of those and get confused.

[HalfASandwidch]

FINE! .. ::slides the barrel of a shotgun into my mouth::
I support death...

[amhx147]

i just ran through all their albums... didnt find it. but they have some good stuff. listening to "Blood Inside" now..

[lachrymoIogy]

black metal...ew. amhx147 go download Between the Buried and Me - Selkies: The Endless Obsession ( assuming you don't listen to them) if you want to listen to something badass and experimental.

[amhx147]

listening now. not bad

[Exoskeletal]

Hmm, there's a possibility that this could be the end of a song because when it ends all the sounds fade and there is only that last guitar chord and the bell. But yeh this also could only be one layer of the song and be in any part of it.

[lachrymoIogy]

the transition into the end of the song, and the guitar sweeping in the solo at the end is unbelievable.

[el57]

lol Ulver is like electornica and jazz and way more experimental than BTBAM. I love BTBAM though don't get me wrong.

But ya selkies kicks incredible ass

[amhx147]

so far ive enjoyed both. thanks.


edit: tool still kicks ass tho :)

[lachrymoIogy]

i dont listen to them, nor have i heard them. so i wasn't making a comparison or dissing them, just pointing him towards someone badass. also, for in the realms of metalcore/grind...whatever, they're pretty fucking ingenuitive. check out Cephalic Carnage too, they're much more grind, but equally as original, brutal, and musically aweinspiring. and they may have the best drummer on the planet, standing along side DC. Observer to the obliteration of planet earth, and Dying will be the death of me would be two good ones to start with

[el57]

Yeah my fav hardcore band is The Number 12 Looks Like You if you haven't heard of them. They pretty spastic but reall good

[lachrymoIogy]

so far ive enjoyed both. thanks.


edit: tool still kicks more ass tho :) fixed.

[HolyReality]

Don't get me wrong, I think they're better than 99% of the rest of it. To me, personally though, they are just not up to par with Tool. That is not necessarily a bad thing. I just think Tool is off in some other place, that really, no other popular rock bands are. So I am not putting them down. I am, however, also not going to lift them up to where Tool is.
a little tough to compare but yeah, I'd take tool any day too.

[lachrymoIogy]

Yeah my fav hardcore band is The Number 12 Looks Like You if you haven't heard of them. They pretty spastic but reall good they put on a fantastic show, the singers are a little annoying at times since they have a grindcore ..anal kunt esque style of singing. saw them like four months ago with the classic struggle, ed gein, and through the eyes of the dead. great show.

[HolyReality]

lol Ulver is like electornica and jazz and way more experimental than BTBAM. I love BTBAM though don't get me wrong.

But ya selkies kicks incredible ass
all truth.

[lachrymoIogy]

nuclear, sad , nuclear is badass.

[el57]

Looks like we got some varied tastes on TDN lol.

[lachrymoIogy]

i listen to just about everything except country, studio gangster rap, country and anything that makes you think "damn...thats geh"

[amhx147]

i listen to just about everything except country, studio gangster rap, country and anything that makes you think "damn...thats geh"


i listen to everything you listed except rap, with one exception, after going to NIN concert 2 weeks ago, i heard Saul Williams for the first time... i was really impressed.

[el57]

I like rap like 2pac and Mobb Deep and older stuff like that/

[amhx147]

so i guess we never got a verification about where those two sound clips came from?

[lachrymoIogy]

no verification in either direction. the only rap i listen to is probably ten years old, and on Death Row records. nothing good has come out in a long time (mos def, blackstar, blackalicious, ...but that's hip hop.)

[amhx147]

try saul williams if u have time. its really not bad at all.

[lachrymoIogy]

I like rap like 2pac and Mobb Deep and older stuff like that/
i wont deny it, im a straight rida, you don't wanna fuck with me. got the whole east fussin at me, but they can't do nuttin to a G.

[lachrymoIogy]

WEST SIYEEEEEEEEEDE!!

[khemystri]

pm?

[lachrymoIogy]

look at my aim profile...they're all there.

[jAkUp]

Here is the instrumental, the one with lyrics kinda sucks. I have them both but here is the better of the two:

EDIT:
Nevermind, I deleted the link. PM me if you want either one still.

Anyways, these are VERY old guys, I have had these for like a week. Most people think its fake. I suppose we will find out soon enough though.

It sounds pretty good to me though.

[Exoskeletal]

This thread is about to get deleted again.

[amhx147]

those crazy mods.

[dfbovey]

Kinda reminds me of the No Quarter cover.

[herarety]

I TRIED TO LAST AS LONG AS I COULD!

Fock, you women are so demanding.

[amhx147]

I TRIED TO LAST AS LONG AS I COULD!

Fock, you women are so demanding.


last for what?

[Light Reflections]

I doubt it's Tool, but it's a pretty cool clip, whatever it is.

[Lost Keys]

I like rap like 2pac and Mobb Deep and older stuff like that/


no wonder tool messes with us.

[Visceralus]

no wonder tool messes with us.

open yourself to new experiences

[samael]

pm please?

[herarety]

pm please?
LAWL WAY TO GET AQUANTED

[samael]

LAWL WAY TO GET AQUANTED

Yes it is or should I first write how Blair sucks, Tool sucks and how you should die?

[praefector]

Yeah my fav hardcore band is The Number 12 Looks Like You if you haven't heard of them. They pretty spastic but reall good


people actually like them now...wtf

my oh my what has the world come to

anyway if youre gonna plug one of those bands plug bodies in the gears of the apparatus or circle takes the square etc etc

the number 12... is fucking awful though

fuck i bet people even love the locust now

[herarety]

Yes it is or should I first write how Blair sucks, Tool sucks and how you should die?
No you are obviouly not an noov nov 3003.

[Rav]

It's an interesting little piece, whatever it is.

I certainly agree it is far more believable than any supposed leaks we've had so far.

I'm keeping an open mind, but we'll all know for sure soon enough.

[toolloot]

The best fake was the German band who sound like Tool one.

[MOON]

Anyone can PM me the link please ? :)

Thank you very much ! :)

[kamyar]

it's actually a band called Miocene.. i hadn't head this track by them yet..

it would have fooled me though.

[bored&numb]

can we get a second confirmation on this?


and can i get a PM?


thanks in advance.

[Rav]

it's actually a band called Miocene.. i hadn't head this track by them yet..

it would have fooled me though.

It is not Miocene. That was another clip, posted over a week ago. This is something entirely different.

[samael]

and can i get a PM?


thanks in advance.

Me too, still.

[bonus.cheese]

if you want the link.. PM the person who offered it. Don't be lazy and make them find you and then pm u.

I have the link by the way.

[Carbonatedgravy]

I keep telling myself that once the single is actually out I'm going to lock myself off the internet, ignore the radio, and wait patiently for the cd to come out before I listen to anything. And yet I jump on any and every supposed leak that sprouts up.

Can't exactly add anything that hasn't been said, but while I think this new one is enjoyable, I very much doubt it's Tool. It wouldn't disappoint me if it were, but I don't find it likely.

[STA]

I'm too hungover to read through 11 pages. Can someone tell me what happened here?

[Carbonatedgravy]

I'm too hungover to read through 11 pages. Can someone tell me what happened here?

Another probably phony leak, but this one made people excited enough to masturbate over while spending 11 pages trying to figure out what the hell "Maynard" was exactly saying. At least 6 pages could be cut if you just get rid of people asking for links.

[ArizonaBay]

PM me with this thing someone... please.

[STA]

PM me with this thing someone... please.

I will if I can get my hands on it.

[Windir]

Oh no! Not Miocene again. You guys really need to stop believing everything that's been said on the internet. We had this discussion a while ago and... wait. 20 pages?
Hahahaha.

Sorry, continue .. please do.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

lol props to ya Juha - I feel the same way. Mods please don't lock the thread though. I'm curious as to what everyone thinks about this (not that you shouldn't lock the thread because I'm curious). But it doesn't seem to me this is hurting anyone, or going to prematurely spoil the album for anyone, including Tool. And to those of you pretending like you know anything like it's firm, we don't know - anything is possible. If this is an early demo from the new album, man I am still excited by it. It's got huge possibility. And if anyone can find out if it's something else, that would be awesome as well. So no harm done, really...

[Grimface]

Yarrr I want to hear that clip. PM me please.

[deaf]

is that steve vai playin the guitar?

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

is that steve vai playin the guitar?

lol remember, guitars are gonna be "to the fore" on this one =P

[Grimface]

Link me damnit :|

[deaf]

Link me damnit :|

the link is 5 posts above... isn't it?

[Grimface]

the link is 5 posts above... isn't it?

Fuck I'm blind

[redbox]

is that steve vai playin the guitar?

The guitar is similar to Adam and vocal to Maynard.

I think that isn't fake ;p

[Grimface]

Well this really goes along with that statement of vocals being buried in the music :P

[DirtyBanana]

Can someone PM me that link please?

[DirtyBanana]

nah...don´t think so.

[Estevan]

Someone PM it to me please.

[amhx147]

get the links of my AIM profile;

[JuhaDeWolf]

Well, the link was removed, eh?

[praefector]

is that steve vai playin the guitar?

maybe if steve vai forgot how to use delay properly and lost two fingers



sure

[NoD]

does this leak give anyone else goosebumps? It's that hard looping electronic sound, it's like nails on a chalkboard or the wings of a giant insect or something.....

[praefector]

no

[NoD]

blow me

[el57]

ill have to agree with no. There's nothing fuckin mystical or goosebump worthy of it

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

does this leak give anyone else goosebumps? It's that hard looping electronic sound, it's like nails on a chalkboard or the wings of a giant insect or something.....

Lol no, but do you really think every single thing Tool jams, and begins to records would give you goosebumps. I can, however see this being turned into something that could give you goosebumps. The melodic potential is there, that's all I was saying. It DOES however sound very much like Adam to me. Especially alot of the things on Lateralus. It sounds like something is being worked out.

[NoD]

Lol no, but do you really think every single thing Tool jams, and begins to records would give you goosebumps. I can, however see this being turned into something that could give you goosebumps. The melodic potential is there, that's all I was saying. It DOES however sound very much like Adam to me. Especially alot of the things on Lateralus. It sounds like something is being worked out.

I didn't mean like it's just so amazing it gives me goosebumps, I'm just talking about the creepy looping sound.....it sounds very cool.

[ifrigginghatethis]

LOLOLOLOL


omfg, this is so clearly NOT TOOL. Some ***got heard about the new vocal mixing technique and the fact that this song has a slow intro and decided to make a fake. I would bet everything I own on it.

[el57]

ya i no its clearly not tool lulz....

[Metalhos]

#1 i like (most of) miocene's music very much.

#2 the 1.37 clip (a shorter clip exists as well, this one is "pasted" together at one position) is NOT miocene.

#3 it fits very much to the description on the first song by andy king - "Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat"

#4 i bet my ass that it's played by tool. the "atmosphere" and feeling is very very similar and the increasing dynamic fits perfectly to a toolish intro to a monster of a song.

#5 20 days remaining... for european release :D. hooooooray!!!!

[orange.juice]

my calendar says 19 :D

and it's 18 days until the release party.

[Metalhos]

i am hard to myself. i have counted today as well ;)

yeah.. release party.. bochum.. gehste hin? muss man da karten vorbestellen um reinzukommen? fragen über fragen. auf jeden fall nehm ich mir ne zweite unterhose mit.

[orange.juice]

hmm vermutlich geh ich hin. Es sei denn es gibt die cd schon irgendwo vorher. Eintritt ist wie's scheint frei!
http://www.keller-club.info/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=viewpub&tid=2&pid=11

[JuhaDeWolf]

I don't speak freaky-deaky German...

But is that article saying that there will be an advance listning party somewhere in Germany on the 27th of April at 10 PM?

[praefector]

Lol no, but do you really think every single thing Tool jams, and begins to records would give you goosebumps. I can, however see this being turned into something that could give you goosebumps. The melodic potential is there, that's all I was saying. It DOES however sound very much like Adam to me. Especially alot of the things on Lateralus. It sounds like something is being worked out.

anyone who sat down with a guitar and listened to "the patient" could have come up with that riff

the effects scream "NOT ADAM JONES" to me...the delay is too sloppy

as a standalone, this track has potential for sure...but it doesnt hold a candle to what i expect from Tool

[dracomordag]

lol @ people still thinking this is real

it's been disproven countless times in this thread alone, not to mention the first time these clips came around. get that through your head

[orange.juice]

But is that article saying that there will be an advance listning party somewhere in Germany on the 27th of April at 10 PM?
in six different locations across the country to be precise. Keller Club in Munich is one of them.

*giggles*

[Rav]

lol @ people still thinking this is real

it's been disproven countless times in this thread alone, not to mention the first time these clips came around. get that through your head

Please do tell where it has been disproven in this thread. I do not 'believe' this is the real thing, but I do think it has the potential to be.

[Metalhos]

lol @ people still thinking this is real

it's been disproven countless times in this thread alone, not to mention the first time these clips came around. get that through your head

disproven with WHAT? :D

[JuhaDeWolf]

.

*giggles*

Non fa *giggles* a me! Pezzo di merde, non posso parlare tedesca. Questo forum è inglese. Parla inglese!

[dracomordag]

You can find a thread that DirtyBanana made about April 2nd or so... claiming to have the new single. he had these exact clips we have here. everyone was like "OMG" and downloaded them, only to find that it was his april fools joke/way of advertising one of his favorite bands "miocene"

you can check out there myspace i think for the song you keep listening to thinking its tool.



I'm gonna PM him to double check, but i had these leaks that you all are listening to right now on April 3rd... and I'm pretty sure that was the Miocene thread date.

[Metalhos]

Non fa *giggles* a me! Pezzo di merde, non posso parlare tedesca. Questo forum è inglese. Parla inglese!

no pre-listening parties in u.s.? shame on you, mr. bush.

[orange.juice]

i really hope that stuff is not real, and i don't believe it is. But it's the first fake leak which has no proof yet, or has it? Where does it come from? People say it's not Myocene, some say it's from a drum expo or whatnot, others claim it could be some sound engineer thingie...

[Metalhos]

You can find a thread that DirtyBanana made about April 2nd or so... claiming to have the new single. he had these exact clips we have here. everyone was like "OMG" and downloaded them, only to find that it was his april fools joke/way of advertising one of his favorite bands "miocene"

you can check out there myspace i think for the song you keep listening to thinking its tool.



I'm gonna PM him to double check, but i had these leaks that you all are listening to right now on April 3rd... and I'm pretty sure that was the Miocene thread date.

this must be a different clip than the 1:37 track. because this one is definitly not miocene (and not doom3 as well...).

[Rav]

You can find a thread that DirtyBanana made about April 2nd or so... claiming to have the new single. he had these exact clips we have here. everyone was like "OMG" and downloaded them, only to find that it was his april fools joke/way of advertising one of his favorite bands "miocene"

you can check out there myspace i think for the song you keep listening to thinking its tool.



I'm gonna PM him to double check, but i had these leaks that you all are listening to right now on April 3rd... and I'm pretty sure that was the Miocene thread date.

If you go back to that thread, you'll see I was the first person to recognise the mp3 as Miocene, given that they are also one of my favourite bands. The mp3s I am referring to are NOT miocene ones. I have the link and I just sent you a pm with it in.

[jAkUp]

These are not miocene. These are new, and in the vocal track, you actually hear the word Vicarious.

[orange.juice]

in the vocal track, you actually hear the word Vicarious.
yeah, totally forgot about that...

[JuhaDeWolf]

...in the vocal track, you actually hear the word Vicarious.

Uh, yeah... the word 'vicarious' is also in this vocal track... http://www.bartleby.com/61/wavs/56/V0085600.wav

[orange.juice]

see page 7 or so. ^

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

anyone who sat down with a guitar and listened to "the patient" could have come up with that riff

the effects scream "NOT ADAM JONES" to me...the delay is too sloppy

as a standalone, this track has potential for sure...but it doesnt hold a candle to what i expect from Tool

I disagree - it's pretty fluid. There are alot of people who can come up with "riffs" based on any style. Whatever. But that is very fluid and very dynamic and goes together nicely with the ambient background noises, and it's very nicely textured and layered sustain and feedback. It sounds like some things off Lateralus to me. The guitars are gonna be different this time - go read the guitar world article closely and every word of it. Baresi had a ton of gear he let Adam mess around with and even turned him on to a different style of amp he likes better than his Mesa Boogies. It's gonna be different. And if that is him, it's definitely him just working something out. But it is certainly plausible to me. ANYONE can come up with a riff that "sounds like something else". However it takes a very different and talented kind of person to put together, even a minute and a half multilayered and haunting exceptionally dynamic and beautiful piece of music.

The whole thing is off time in spots. It does not seem like, and I repeat I am not saying it's a finished song or something. It sounds like something's that being worked out. By everyone. The bass is very simple, but it's the same scales and patterns Justin uses alot. I know when I play with people, it usually starts really simple and evolves into something more complex over time. I mean anything great is gonna start simple.

I have said it like 500 times in this post, so I know I don't really need to say it again. I just think this little diddy has alot of potential, and it may be an insight into their "new dynamic" as Andy King put it.

And the fact that everybody who is so sure of themselves and so closed minded and opinionated that it IS NOT Tool - just keep contradicting themselves over and over, stumbling and trying to explain who this is, and they just can't find a way to, is only making my mind more open to it being them. I am still open to seeing if someone who can figure out who this though, because they're talented I think, imho...

[praefector]

"even a minute and a half multilayered and haunting exceptionally dynamic and beautiful piece of music. "


dude, its freaking distortion + delay and a sequencer until the PM parts come in

like i said, ANYONE who heard "the patient" and knew how to do alternating pickstrokes could CONCEIVABLY have made this with studio magix

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

well we'll see... I'm not an easily fooled dumbass though (not that that means much really), but I know good shit when I hear it. I am not a sucker. Every other clip up until this, I did not have a second thought about it being Tool. And this is the closest I have ever heard to Tool, personally. So we'll see. I dunno. I'd like an explanation of who this is, though.

[praefector]

the most difficult part is recreating those swells

unless you have a volume pedal

[ProdigyDub]

AK's description of Vicarious:

"Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats f@!# with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
"

....I'm pretty sure that's not it.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

the most difficult part is recreating those swells

unless you have a volume pedal

hee hee - I almost put that in my post a couple above. Well you read Adam talking about the volume pedal yeah?? Well it sounds to me though it's on the bass too. What do you think?

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

AK's description of Vicarious:

"Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats f@!# with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
"

....I'm pretty sure that's not it.

"Mesmeric start".................. Vicarious is how long 7 minutes? Personally, I'm not really sure how you can be pretty sure of anything right now lol...

[ProdigyDub]

"Mesmeric start".................. Vicarious is how long 7 minutes? Personally, I'm not really sure how you can be pretty sure of anything right now lol...

Well, given that there's absolutely no evidence that this is actually legitimate...and given that there's a bunch of points to the contrary (AK's description, the fact that this piece is not in the least "radio-friendly").....I'd say "pretty sure it's not real" is a pretty reasonable place to be. Not absolutely sure, not completely sure...but pretty sure.

[lachrymoIogy]

it's not impossible that this could be tool. it's only a little more than a minutes worth of music. there's no telling where in the song this could be from (if infact it's tool). it does sound like the section of music is still incomplete also. if before lateralus, the 3 minutes of down time from ticks and leeches leaked, im sure everyone would be going through the same arguements right now.i dont know if its tool. and i dont know that it isnt.

[amhx147]

AK's description of Vicarious:

"Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats f@!# with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry.
"

....I'm pretty sure that's not it.


we havent heard where the drums come in, or the climax of maynards voice. we have 30 seconds on what may be the beginning or the end. its still open. those of you arguing that the style doesnt fit.... i dont buy it. its a new album, lateralus stylistically was alot different than aenima... but im not 100% either.. so who knows. we'll see.

[dracomordag]

I just PMed DB, and he'll get back to me soon. All I know for sure is that this clip leaked April 2nd or 3rd and was quickly disproven, but i forget how. I'm still trying to find the original thread that it was disproven in.

[lachrymoIogy]

"Mesmeric start".................. Vicarious is how long 7 minutes? Personally, I'm not really sure how you can be pretty sure of anything right now lol... it sounds pretty mesmeric to me. and also, where in the review did he say that the first track was...radio friendly in the least bit? what's in the clip, matches with a part of what he says. why doesnt someone get intouch with him and ask if it is it? wouldn't that be the easiest (possibly only way) to disprove this, other than waiting till the 17th?

[ProdigyDub]

we havent heard where the drums come in, or the climax of maynards voice. we have 30 seconds on what may be the beginning or the end. its still open. those of you arguing that the style doesnt fit.... i dont buy it. its a new album, lateralus stylistically was alot different than aenima... but im not 100% either.. so who knows. we'll see.

You're not understanding--I'm not claiming that this can't be the single because it's not "like Tool's previous albums". Comparisons to Aenima and Lateralus have NOTHING to do with my point.

My point is that this song is not a single for a hard rock band. It's not marketable nor is it radio-friendly. Period.

[lachrymoIogy]

I just PMed DB, and he'll get back to me soon. All I know for sure is that this clip leaked April 2nd or 3rd and was quickly disproven, but i forget how. I'm still trying to find the original thread that it was disproven in. you seem to keep talking about that miocene clip. it's already been stated numerous times that this, is not miocene.

[lachrymoIogy]

You're not understanding--I'm not claiming that this can't be the single because it's not "like Tool's previous albums". Comparisons to Aenima and Lateralus have NOTHING to do with my point.

My point is that this song is not a single for a hard rock band. It's not marketable nor is it radio-friendly. Period. so, AK's description of the song sounds radio friendly? come on.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

Well, given that there's absolutely no evidence that this is actually legitimate...and given that there's a bunch of points to the contrary (AK's description, the fact that this piece is not in the least "radio-friendly").....I'd say "pretty sure it's not real" is a pretty reasonable place to be. Not absolutely sure, not completely sure...but pretty sure.

I'm sure not gonna argue about it, and if you go back and read my posts about this you'll see I've been pretty clear and reasonable about providing my reasons why it is "possibly Tool", and I've stated countless times that I'm not sure. And actually going by AK's description, to me it really sounds like it could be it. But I suppose we all have our interpretations (just mine's better than yours) lol nah jk. We'll see, we'll see. I dunno. At least you admitted you're not "completely sure". I love the people who pretend they absolutely know.

[ProdigyDub]

it sounds pretty mesmeric to me. and also, where in the review did he say that the first track was...radio friendly in the least bit? what's in the clip, matches with a part of what he says. why doesnt someone get intouch with him and ask if it is it? wouldn't that be the easiest (possibly only way) to disprove this, other than waiting till the 17th?

What do you mean "where does he say it's radio friendly"? That assertion has nothing to do with Andy King.

The fact that it's the first single off an album means that it's radio friendly. The 1st single off an album is typically the 2nd most "radio friendly" song on the album--with the 2nd single being the most radio friendly.

Thus it would make perfect sense that described The Pot as the most radio friendly. It will likely be the 2nd single. But the 1st single still has to be very marketable--which this piece certainly isn't.

[dracomordag]

i know it's not the miocene clip... but i still remember a thread about these same clips

damnit, so many "leak" threads to sort through...

[Metalhos]

we havent heard where the drums come in, or the climax of maynards voice. we have 30 seconds on what may be the beginning or the end. its still open. those of you arguing that the style doesnt fit.... i dont buy it. its a new album, lateralus stylistically was alot different than aenima... but im not 100% either.. so who knows. we'll see.

it's 1:37 and this one makes it much more clearer that it is tool.

[praefector]

My point is that this song is not a single for a hard rock band. It's not marketable nor is it radio-friendly. Period.

schism wasnt "radio-friendly"

neither was aenema

"radio-friendly" means relatively little when discussing tool

[lachrymoIogy]

What do you mean "where does he say it's radio friendly"? That assertion has nothing to do with Andy King.

The fact that it's the first single off an album means that it's radio friendly. The 1st single off an album is typically the 2nd most "radio friendly" song on the album--with the 2nd single being the most radio friendly. right, the pot would be the second one (obviously, i know). im trying to imply that his description of the first track he heard (which would be vicarious, assuming the order he heard was the final order on the tracklisting. which it would be, if the pot is in the right place) does not sound radio friendly, in the least bit. and this clip, matches part of the description of that song, and you agree this doesnt sound radio friendly either (which..i agree on also). so i don't know. im not leaning more to one way or the other, im purely 50/50 on this thing.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

What do you mean "where does he say it's radio friendly"? That assertion has nothing to do with Andy King.

The fact that it's the first single off an album means that it's radio friendly. The 1st single off an album is typically the 2nd most "radio friendly" song on the album--with the 2nd single being the most radio friendly.

Not always the case, ESPECIALLY with Tool. Come on man we all know Schism wasn't as radio friendly as Prabola. Tool does things differently, we all know that. At this point, they can do whatever they want. And if that is the first minute of the song - with how progressive Tool songs are, there is absolutely no telling where in the hell it would go from there.

And oh yeah Aenema lol, hell that song (lyrically) is just scary to alot of people. Makes them feel like chicken little or something =P. Tool can and will do whatever they want. No tellin with these guys.

[dracomordag]

searching PMs now... i know someone asked for it or i asked someone for it

[lachrymoIogy]

someone email the link to Andy and ask him, if this is part of vicarious. that simple.

[ProdigyDub]

schism wasnt "radio-friendly"

neither was aenema

"radio-friendly" means relatively little when discussing tool

I have no idea what you're talking about. Schism and Aenema were both radio-friendly. Schism was the 2nd most radio friendly song on Laterlaus, behind Parabola (thus fitting the formula perfectly).

How you can classify either of them as not is mind-boggling.

[ProdigyDub]

Not always the case, ESPECIALLY with Tool. Come on man we all know Schism wasn't as radio friendly as Prabola. Tool does things differently, we all know that. At this point, they can do whatever they want. And if that is the first minute of the song - with how progressive Tool songs are, there is absolutely no telling where in the hell it would go from there.

And oh yeah Aenima lol, hell that song (lyrically) is just scary to alot of people. Makes them feel like chicken little or something =P. Tool can and will do whatever they want. No tellin with these guys.

Right. Schism isn't as radio friendly as Parabola. That's why Schism was the first single and Parabola was next. That's exactly my point...don't see what argument you think you're making with that.

[lachrymoIogy]

as far as aenema goes, it's less radio friendly than 46 and 2 that's for sure (based on the rhythem of the song). plus, since when are songs that have the word fuck in it like 15 times radio "friendly"( i know it's ironic, since it does get played on the radio).

[Carbonatedgravy]

I'm not saying I think this is real, because I don't, but the "radio friendly" argument means nothing considering how short this clip is. 80% of the song could still be quite marketable. If all we'd had from Schism was the 30 seconds right before the "cold silence" line, that would seem even less like a radio song than this.

[lachrymoIogy]

i haven't heard aenema on the radio here except during the day of the evacuation for katrina. all they played was that, rocking like a hurricane and a few other songs.

[praefector]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Schism and Aenema were both radio-friendly. Schism was the 2nd most radio friendly song on Laterlaus, behind Parabola (thus fitting the formula perfectly).

How you can classify either of them as not is mind-boggling.

maybe it has something to do with length

radio-friendly songs usually clock in at around 3.5 to 5.5 minutes in length...schism clocks in at 6:44 with a good minunte of peaceful downtime (usually a big NO-NO in rock radio)

aenema, the chorus is certainly radio friendly but come on...its a very lengthy (im not sure the exact time) song and is heavily edited for length on most radio stations (as "vicarious" could certainly be)

[lachrymoIogy]

I'm not saying I think this is real, because I don't, but the "radio friendly" argument means nothing considering how short this clip is. 80% of the song could still be quite marketable. If all we'd had from Schism was the 30 seconds right before the "cold silence" line, that would seem even less like a radio song than this. thats all that needs to be said.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

Right. Schism isn't as radio friendly as Parabola. That's why Schism was the first single and Parabola was next. That's exactly my point...don't see what argument you think you're making with that.

It's not really radio friendly at all, actually. It is just "weird" to alot of people. It's very dark compared to so much of what's on the radio. I'm pretty sure most people can see the argument I'm making. ANd yeah of course the length thing is such a major component. The fact that they picked a 7 minute song for the first single off this one, is almost just vindictive to the radio industry lol.

[ProdigyDub]

as far as aenema goes, it's less radio friendly than 46 and 2 that's for sure (based on the rhythem of the song). plus, since when are songs that have the word fuck in it like 15 times radio "friendly"( i know it's ironic, since it does get played on the radio).

Don't really agree with your second argument there. Tons of songs on the radio, especially rap, have just as much if not more cussing. Doesn't really mean anything.

Radio-friendly refers to the structure of the song and the general digestibility that comes with it in 1 listen. Of course with Tool, the latter is always low (especially considering the length of the songs)...but they have to pick the songs that are the MOST digestible (Schism, Parabola, Aenema, etc.)

None of their songs are PARTICULARLY "radio-friendly". But they have to decide which ones do fit the mold best.

[dracomordag]

fuck, man... i can't find any PMs or threads about this.

all i know is that I had the leak april 3rd (according to my computer), and i remember it being all the buzz for a while. it obviously died down for a reason, but i forget why.

whatever... all i gotta say is that, although this sounds a lot like tool, i'm 99% sure it's not.

[ProdigyDub]

It's not really radio friendly at all, actually. It is just "weird" to alot of people. It's very dark compared to so much of what's on the radio. I'm pretty sure most people can see the argument I'm making. ANd yeah of course the length thing is such a major component. The fact that they picked a 7 minute song for the first single off this one, is almost just vindictive to the radio industry lol.

Not really. The majority of my friends don't like Tool and prefer hip-hop, rap, more mainstream rock....and all of them thought Schism was bad ass back when it was on the radio when we were in high school. I can think of a couple guys I know in particular that can't stand to listen to songs like Lateralus and love Schism and Aenema.

So, again, I don't really agree with you there.

[praefector]

None of their songs are PARTICULARLY "radio-friendly". But they have to decide which ones do fit the mold best.

agreed here.

this is what you should have said as it would have avoided the confusion

[Metalhos]

someone email the link to Andy and ask him, if this is part of vicarious. that simple.

done.

[lachrymoIogy]

Don't really agree with your second argument there. Tons of songs on the radio, especially rap, have just as much if not more cussing. Doesn't really mean anything.

Radio-friendly refers to the structure of the song and the general digestibility that comes with it in 1 listen. Of coures with Tool, the latter is always low...but they have to pick the songs that are the MOST digestible (Schism, Parabola). i was just basing that on the fact i havent heard aenema on the radio here ever. they play prison sex more. and as far as rap goes, you're right, but they dont string the word fuck into the begning of every line for a large part of the song (most of the time). that's why i always assumed they didn't play it on the radio.

[ProdigyDub]

agreed here.

this is what you should have said as it would have avoided the confusion

I figured it should be implicit. All of us know Tool's music is darker and more complex than anything else you hear on the radio. But the fact is they still have certain songs which are more digestible to the average listener than others (though not necessarily very "digestible" when compared to something like RHCP or Blink 182), and those are the songs they have always picked--period.

[praefector]

I figured it should be implicit. All of us know Tool's music is darker and more complex than anything else you hear on the radio. But the fact is they still have certain songs which are more digestible to the average listener than others (though not necessarily very "digestible" when compared to something like RHCP or Blink 182), and those are the songs they have always picked--period.


choosing the "most radio-friendly" song from a bunch of lengthy complex tracks and callign a song "radio-friendly" from the get are two completely different things. "radio-friendly" implies a song is very digestable and simple with a catchy chorus, a simple bridge/solo, and repeating-meter verses.

a 7 minute-plus brooding "vicarious" could conceivably have a radio draw that even "parabola" or "H" lacked.

[lachrymoIogy]

Everyone here knows that the majority on this board is going to deny anything to be real that isn't UNMISTAKABLY the new single. and without the entire track, we can not make that judgement. the most important thing is to find out if this is real. that's it. it's possible, whether people like it or not. Why? 1.) no one has any idea what the fuck it is. 2.) radio friendly or not, it sounds like tool. Until someone confirms what this is, or the single comes out. The possibility still exists, and we should spend more energy into identifying, whether this is tool or not.

[lachrymoIogy]

choosing the "most radio-friendly" song from a bunch of lengthy complex tracks and callign a song "radio-friendly" from the get are two completely different things. "radio-friendly" implies a song is very digestable and simple with a catchy chorus, a simple bridge/solo, and repeating-meter verses.

a 7 minute-plus brooding "vicarious" could conceivably have a radio draw that even "parabola" or "H" lacked. ::applauds::

[orange.juice]

fuck, man... i can't find any PMs or threads about this.

all i know is that I had the leak april 3rd (according to my computer), and i remember it being all the buzz for a while. it obviously died down for a reason, but i forget why.

whatever... all i gotta say is that, although this sounds a lot like tool, i'm 99% sure it's not.
yeah i remember that. it was the part without vocals then. it died within a day or so.

[dracomordag]

do you remember why it died? or where the thread is/was?

[orange.juice]

no... damn i shouldn't hang around here so much

can't find it either... guess it's been deleted.

[MOON]

ANYONE CAN SEND ME THE LINK BY PM ?? PLEASE !!!!!! :)

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

Not really. The majority of my friends don't like Tool and prefer hip-hop, rap, more mainstream rock....and all of them thought Schism was bad ass back when it was on the radio when we were in high school. I can think of a couple guys I know in particular that can't stand to listen to songs like Lateralus and love Schism and Aenema.

So, again, I don't really agree with you there.


Well I know a whole lot of people who do not like it very much, and I know a whole lot of people who do like it. We are having a pretty dumb argument here. I suppose I have just always been under the impression that true "radio friendliness" meant that a song was confined to syrupy sweet symple melodies, cliche lyrics and stuck to the 3-4 minute format. Maybe I am just misinterpreting, and we are talking rock radio, of course. Maybe we don't agree, but I still believe they could release a very "unradiofriendly" song in Vicarious. I mean the distinct possibility DOES exist, and I'm sure you won't deny that. In regards to the clip, we are just chasing our tails, until, at least, someone confirms this is indeed, not Tool. Or of course, in the longshot that does exist, that someone confirms it really IS them. I'm waiting with baited breath. =P

[Lipan Conjured]

I would like this 'leak' sent to me as well please.

[Anti-Xian]

my vote is that this is part of a tool song. everyone that keeps saying it's miocene needs to listen to the damn tracks in question. it most certainly is not.

i'm 100% sure this is none other than TOOL. the "radio-friendly" argument on this thread is a moot point. with a 34 sec vocal track and a 1:04 instrumental how can anyone tell what is and isn't radio-friendly...it's just retarded to even make a stance on the topic.

regardless, like i've stated before, if this isn't tool, it's the closest anyone (any band) has EVER come to sounding anything like Tool, period! I mean the atmosphere, the guitar sounds, bends, sustains, riffs, style, tone, composition, sequence may seem easy for some to mimic, but i've heard all this other crap people think is tool and i can easily say i've NEVER heard anyone come close to their sound.

maybe someone that hasn't been listening to tool for too long, someone that is somewhat familiar with them but doesn't listen to them as closely, or a radio tool listener, would disagree. i can knowingly say this and can make a logical assumption based on my own history of listening to everything this band has ever recorded and released for consumption.

[jAkUp]

I zipped up both the files in question and they are here, nobody knows what these are really, but here it is:

Nevermind, if you want them send me a PM

Like I said before, most people think its a fake.

[absolutezero]

How about a full song? And how the hell would anyone get a hold of an instrumental and lyrical version?

[jAkUp]

WTF?

Dude its both the files zipped

[toolesque]

jAkUp you know that the post has 13 pages and no one has put the link up is because the post will get deleted duh

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

my vote is that this is part of a tool song. everyone that keeps saying it's miocene needs to listen to the damn tracks in question. it most certainly is not.

i'm 100% sure this is none other than TOOL. the "radio-friendly" argument on this thread is a moot point. with a 34 sec vocal track and a 1:04 instrumental how can anyone tell what is and isn't radio-friendly...it's just retarded to even make a stance on the topic.

regardless, like i've stated before, if this isn't tool, it's the closest anyone (any band) has EVER come to sounding anything like Tool, period! I mean the atmosphere, the guitar sounds, bends, sustains, riffs, style, tone, composition, sequence may seem easy for some to mimic, but i've heard all this other crap people think is tool and i can easily say i've NEVER heard anyone come close to their sound.

maybe someone that hasn't been listening to tool for too long, someone that is somewhat familiar with them but doesn't listen to them as closely, or a radio tool listener, would disagree. i can knowingly say this and can make a logical assumption based on my own history of listening to everything this band has ever recorded and released for consumption.

Agree 100%, well I suppose everyone already knows this. Every time I listen to it, it seems more and more, and it's been stuck in my head for quite a while now. Not many things do that to me. I'd just like to hear what the finished product sounds like. Well I guess, if this is them, we'll get to hear it right quick here. It seems so dumb and obsessive.compulsive to be this into a 30 second clip, but the wait has been long. And we are just so close now.

[Anti-Xian]

think how obsessive/compulsive people are over this little clip....multiply that by infinity when the album comes out. that's how tools music makes me feel. i truly appreciate their musical endeavors.

[A Tad Bit Catatonic]

think how obsessive/compulsive people are over this little clip....multiply that by infinity when the album comes out. that's how tools music makes me feel. i truly appreciate their musical endeavors.

ah me too man, me too =)