"Do unto others"

[Pharmaecopia_stinkfist]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but i could swear he says

"Two and two others, what has been done to me?"

instead of

"Do unto others, what has been done to me."

This would definitely go along with the whole him being sexual abused and stuff... maybe someone already suggest this and everyone yelled at him, or maybe its been confirmed that IS what he says. i dont know,

thoughts?

[snakeeyedhawk]

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's 'do unto others'. Never heard anything like 'two and two'.

[gottspieler]

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's 'do unto others'. Never heard anything like 'two and two'.


Yeah, the official lyrics say "do unto others, what has been done to me"

[sub rosa]

Maynard was sexually abused when he was younger (that's what the song Opiate is about), and this song is about him doing the same to somebody else.

[OGT from back in the day]

ya definately "do unto others" it goes with the song......i believe at first he says "but your breathing....." and then he says "but im breathing..." or the other way around.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Maynard was sexually abused when he was younger (that's what the song Opiate is about), and this song is about him doing the same to somebody else.

It is not at all about him doing it to others. And I don't believe he's ever said anything about him being molested. I think that it is just peoples misconceptions. The point of the song is the vicious cycle of somebody who has been molested and their mental wiring goes haywire from the trauma and must fill an emotional empty void by doing it unto others.

[TheI3rokenSpiral]

It is not at all about him doing it to others. And I don't believe he's ever said anything about him being molested. I think that it is just peoples misconceptions. The point of the song is the vicious cycle of somebody who has been molested and their mental wiring goes haywire from the trauma and must fill an emotional empty void by doing it unto others.

I agree with that. But part of the song also has the lyrics "do unto me now/what has been done to you" also making it a cycle that some people enjoy and want to be a part of. Though that's a pretty sick thing to think, MJK has made more demented lyrics.

[MemphisM]

I hear "do unto others"

Maynard was sexually abused when he was younger (that's what the song Opiate is about), and this song is about him doing the same to somebody else.

Wrong forum, but I can't say I agree with you on your Opiate interpretation. I've always understood it to be about organized religion. "Novus Opiate Seclorum" was on the t-shirts back in the day. New Opiate of the Ages. It's about religion, adopted from a quote by Marx, I believe. I'm pretty sure the rape lyric isn't literal. Again, wrong forum, just had to point it out.

[Melanos]

Novus Opiate Seclorum = New Drug Millenium...... go ahead and do a search for it, thats the translation.

[MemphisM]

Novus Opiate Seclorum = New Drug Millenium...... go ahead and do a search for it, thats the translation.

No, its not. It comes from Novus Ordo Seclorum....New Order of the Ages. Novus Opiate Seclorum was mean to mean New Opiate of the Ages, adopted from Marx.

"Religion is the opium of the people" (translated from the German "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes") -Karl Marx

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people." (Full quote)-Karl Marx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

Hopefully you were just joking. I take it you've never taken Latin? or read anything by or about Marx?

[Melanos]

No, its not. It comes from Novus Ordo Seclorum....New Order of the Ages. Novus Opiate Seclorum was mean to mean New Opiate of the Ages, adopted from Marx.

"Religion is the opium of the people" (translated from the German "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes") -Karl Marx

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people." (Full quote)-Karl Marx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people

Hopefully you were just joking. I take it you've never taken Latin? or read anything by or about Marx?


Wanna bet..... 1 B.C. Thats all your gonna get from me other than the Original saying wasn't Marx.... and latin wasn't even spoken yet. Ok... i was wrong, latin was originated before 9 to 8 B.C.

[wearethestories]

Wanna bet..... 1 B.C. Thats all your gonna get from me other than the Original saying wasn't Marx.... and latin wasn't even spoken yet. Ok... i was wrong, latin was originated before 9 to 8 B.C.

The wikipedia article is clear....

And the song IS about organized religion... talking of sheep and needing a "stong hand to guide you" --- Maynard's made it clear that he can't stand people using other people (and he sees this in the greatest way through the "middlemen" of religion). It's printed in a bunch of articles and interviews. So, when he says, "we both want, to rape you", it's from the perspective of the "middleman" ("we" references the "god" as well).

Hopefully that will end the discussion on "Opiate" ... er... "Prison Sex"

[Melanos]

oh yeah i forgot wikipedia > all. They are allways right, never overlook anything, and have 110% of the facts. Besides the fact that it says NOTHING about what i am talking about.

Yeah and i guess wikipedia brought you (wearethestories) to this page to chat about the song Opiate too.

[MemphisM]

Wanna bet..... 1 B.C. Thats all your gonna get from me other than the Original saying wasn't Marx.... and latin wasn't even spoken yet. Ok... i was wrong, latin was originated before 9 to 8 B.C.

oh yeah i forgot wikipedia > all. They are allways right, never overlook anything, and have 110% of the facts. Besides the fact that it says NOTHING about what i am talking about.

Yeah and i guess wikipedia brought you (wearethestories) to this page to chat about the song Opiate too.


what???


Might I also recommend section D4 of the FAQ....

[Melanos]

yeah.. i know, go to the Faq as well as Wikipidea dot eat my whatever i type here dot comercialism.... its all true! dont dig anymore! its futile and ignorant! whats important is that you keep your blinders on like a horse running the race, see one way, learn one way, accept what you read 1st is the absolute truth! nothing can be learned accept what you 1st read.... knowledge isnt true unless its on a FAQ or you look on Wikipedia!




By the way... read the quote from maynard himself before you even click on anything here in the opinoins page- "i wont spoonfeed you" is the jist of it basically, now go read the Faq! it knows all!

[MemphisM]

yeah.. i know, go to the Faq as well as Wikipidea dot eat my whatever i type here dot comercialism.... its all true! dont dig anymore! its futile and ignorant! whats important is that you keep your blinders on like a horse running the race, see one way, learn one way, accept what you read 1st is the absolute truth! nothing can be learned accept what you 1st read.... knowledge isnt true unless its on a FAQ or you look on Wikipedia!




By the way... read the quote from maynard himself before you even click on anything here in the opinoins page- "i wont spoonfeed you" is the jist of it basically, now go read the Faq! it knows all!

Whatever makes you feel good about yourself....

All I know, is that when I took Latin, Novus Ordo Seclorum translated into New Order of the Ages. If you put Opiate in there, it becomes New Opiate of the Ages.

[Melanos]

Whatever makes you feel good about yourself....

All I know, is that when I took Latin, Novus Ordo Seclorum translated into New Order of the Ages. If you put Opiate in there, it becomes New Opiate of the Ages.

Yeah. makes me feel good knowing latin was the first language too......Also makes me feel good knowing that thinks get lost in "translations". Iknow what the Latin translation, but as i have stated earlier, the saying was older than that so latin has nothing to do with it imho, but thats kewl that you feel good about yourself for taking latin :)

PS. i never said Marx didnt say it, i just said he didnt say it first.

[paraflux]

Maynard was sexually abused when he was younger (that's what the song Opiate is about), and this song is about him doing the same to somebody else.
Did you sexually abuse him? Because to my knowledge, he has never made such a claim. Making such statements make you look really... not smart.

[orangedarkblue]

Did you sexually abuse him? Because to my knowledge, he has never made such a claim. Making such statements make you look really... not smart.

These lyrics are a bit like placid lakes. There is a surface layer and then a million below it, due to the construction. You will find meanings in there the author never put in, but that doesn't mean they are not valid. Like in good poetry and religion.

[Thelemajoker]

Did you sexually abuse him? Because to my knowledge, he has never made such a claim. Making such statements make you look really... not smart.


In reference to "Sub rosa's" comment; I'm of a like mind to paraflux; Don't waste our time filling this forum with some crap you heard from a friend of a friend, or whatever. I'm no MJK expert, but I've never heard, nor read anything about the child molestation thing either. Check your sources before posting crap others have to waste precious neural synapses processing. TY