The Maynard Code

[LabRat404]

Yes, I did just make a pun about the Dacinvi code. whatever.

Supposed track listing for 1000 days:

01. Vicarious (approx 7:03) [In Hinduism, Srimati Rukmini was the first wife and queen of Krishna, the 8th avatar of Vishnu, mothered a child named Vicaru]
02. Jambi (approx 7:12) [province of Indonesia?]
03. Wings For Marie (Pt 1) (approx 6:20)
04. 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) (approx 10:26)
05. The Pot (approx 6:11)
06. Lipan Conjuring (approx 1 min) [as in Lipan Apache?]
07. Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) (time from next)
08. Rosetta Stoned (14:45)
09. Intension (approx 6:44)
10. Right In Two (approx 9:04) [write in two]
11. Viginti Tres (approx 8.41) [viginti: twenty. tres: three. maybe Viginti Tertius Thompson? lived 1862-1946]

I threw in some approximate and supposed track times from the review from that Andy guy. Its supposed to be about 77 minutes, so I just took all the time he calculated and subratced it from 77 and ended up with what I'll call the time for track 11, which is 8:41. Probably inacurate, but its the best I've got.

The point of this post:

There's reference to the rosetta stone (rosetta stoned) which was written in two languages, Egyptian and Greek. Written in Two languages. Write in two, or "Right in two."

Maybe hints that there are subliminal messages in the lyrics if translated to another language. Its a far fetch, but its a thought.

I've found "Viginti Tres" is latin for "Twenty Three," after a bit of research. Most help came from wiktionary. I'm gunna keep looking at this little puzzle, even if its not :-)

edit: added some notes to track listing.

edit: The Rosetta Stone is the third Ptolemy stone, the first being the stone of Canopus and I'm not sure what the second is called. This is really far out there, but not too far not to mention. Notice that Canopus sounds like Cannibas. Maybe thats what Tool is implying with Rosetta "Stoned" ot The "Pot."

edit: "who or what came before this precious moment." Tool obviously has some sort of affection for ancient civilizations. The concept of the Rosetta Stone further implys this.

edit: edited for ergonomics.

[StoneyB]

looks like you cracked the code.

[Fap]

I've made a little discovery, whether it was intended or I'm just looking too hard is anyones guess, but There's obviously reference to the rosetta stone (rosetta stoned) which was written in two languages, Egyptian and Greek. Written in Two languages. Write in two, or "Right in two."

Not too bad of a theory. It's not far fetched.

[varg]

Give it a rest, will you.

[LabRat404]

Give it a rest, will you.


Its fun, leave me be. :-)

Also to note: The Rosetta Stone is the third Ptolemy stone, the first being the stone of Canopus and I'm not sure what the second is called. This is really far out there, but not too far not to mention: Notice that Canopus sounds like Cannibas. Maybe thats what Tool is implying with Rosetta "Stoned" ot The "Pot."

[phreak03]

aren't there supposed to be 2 segues?

[One Dark Flame]

aren't there supposed to be 2 segues?
Dude I love that picture you've got up!! What is it exactly??

[LabRat404]

aren't there supposed to be 2 segues?

afaik or can tell

[phreak03]

Dude I love that picture you've got up!! What is it exactly??


it's pin i found somewhere...i think i got it from ebay

[Sketch Soland]

This thread is a rip off of HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI **cranky**

[Sasha]

I really like and support this thread.

I love the idea of the lyrics being translated into another language for alternate meanings. That would be pure genius. I hate how some people refuse to believe that Tool is growing from Lateralus and maybe expanding more, but that they're instead going the "political" or a more "bluesy" way. It shows that you're not and that you're actually digging deeper, thinking for yourself, and I applaud you for that.

The idea of other civilizations and the line from Parabol is key to their beliefs I think. Read Nothing In This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are and you'll see references to many of Tool's songs, lyrically. From early on to Lateralus.

[LabRat404]

This thread is a rip off of HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI **cranky**


I'm not really sure if thats a joke or not, but whats this " HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI "?

[One Dark Flame]

it's pin i found somewhere...i think i got it from ebay
Well its f-ing awesome!! Nice to see a fellow Staley fan on these boards. :()

[bass_dude]

I wonder if just once, Tool wanted to write Music without altering track lengths and orders for people to translate or decide are fake.

I'm sure there are meanings behind the songs, and there are many interpretations, but i doubt that tracklengths come into it. That is a bit pretencious, even for Tool.

Alex

[LabRat404]

I wonder if just once, Tool wanted to write Music without altering track lengths and orders for people to translate or decide are fake.

I'm sure there are meanings behind the songs, and there are many interpretations, but i doubt that tracklengths come into it. That is a bit pretencious, even for Tool.

Alex

I don't think ALL track lengths are part of the puzzle, thoughsome may be. maybe only the interludes' track lengths are important -- this would be very easy to do.

Similarly, song names like "sober" probably aren't part of the greater puzzle, if there is one.

[Octopod]

Staley was amazing. I never get tired of Sludge Factory or Wake Up. I think Alice was probably the only other band that popped up around the same time as Tool that really grabbed me with a comparable polarizing mix of ferocity and vulnerability.

[Octopod]

Similarly, song names like "sober" probably aren't part of the greater puzzle, if there is one.

Why wouldn't it be? Especially considering all the drug references, I think Sober works well as a counterpoint to the other states of mind described in other lyrics and titles, and specifically to Rosetta Stoned.

[paraflux]

My younger son's middle name is Layne.

[splints]

I wonder if just once, Tool wanted to write Music without altering track lengths and orders for people to translate or decide are fake.

I'm sure there are meanings behind the songs, and there are many interpretations, but i doubt that tracklengths come into it. That is a bit pretencious, even for Tool.

Alex


No Quarter is 11:11.. shrug

[submachine]

Yes, I did just make a pun about the Dacinvi code. whatever.

Supposed track listing for 1000 days:

01. Vicarious (approx 7:03) [In Hinduism, Srimati Rukmini was the first wife and queen of Krishna, the 8th avatar of Vishnu, mothered a child named Vicaru]
02. Jambi (approx 7:12) [province of Indonesia?]
03. Wings For Marie (Pt 1) (approx 6:20)
04. 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) (approx 10:26)
05. The Pot (approx 6:11)
06. Lipan Conjuring (approx 1 min) [as in Lipan Apache?]
07. Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) (time from next)
08. Rosetta Stoned (14:45)
09. Intension (approx 6:44)
10. Right In Two (approx 9:04) [write in two]
11. Viginti Tres (approx 8.41) [viginti: twenty. tres: three. maybe Viginti Tertius Thompson? lived 1862-1946]

"Rosetta Stoned" and "10,000 Days (Wings Pt. 2)," both of which clock in at 11:14. Near the end of the disc are the substantially lengthy "Intension" (7:21) and "Right in Two" (8:56)."

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002237083

Try not to forget that ambiguious and vague does not necessarily mean anything is "hidden".

[The Official Fiction]

I'm not really sure if thats a joke or not, but whats this " HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI "?

Holy Blood, Holy Grail. The book Dan Brown is accused of plagiarizing.

I'm bored.

[Natalie Portman]

I thought the Rosetta Stone was written in three languages.

[The Official Fiction]

I thought the Rosetta Stone was written in three languages.

from wiki:

The Rosetta Stone is a dark grey-pinkish granite stone (originally thought to be basalt in composition) with writing on it in two languages, Egyptian and Greek, using three scripts, Hieroglyphic, Demotic Egyptian and Greek. Because Greek was well known, the stone was the key to deciphering the hieroglyphs.

[LabRat404]

"Rosetta Stoned" and "10,000 Days (Wings Pt. 2)," both of which clock in at 11:14. Near the end of the disc are the substantially lengthy "Intension" (7:21) and "Right in Two" (8:56)."

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002237083

Try not to forget that ambiguious and vague does not necessarily mean anything is "hidden".

I've already mentioned, in my first post all the more, that I'm considering the fact that I may be looking too hard.

by the way, where did you get that information about the track lengths?

[bozziodrummer000]

My younger son's middle name is Layne.
ive always thought that Layne would be a good name if i ever have a son...

[Spaceman Spiff]

This thread is a rip off of HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI **cranky**
haha

[Waldo Geraldo Faldo]

omg the maynard code.


gin and fresca peach

[y-k=1/4p(x-h)^2]

I support this thread; some good ideas and some crazy ones. Just like it should be.

"For a 40-year-old progressive rock singer sporting an apron, a cowboy hat, and aviators...believe me, you've crossed that line."

[Inner_Eulogy]

Yes, I did just make a pun about the Dacinvi code. whatever.

Supposed track listing for 1000 days:

01. Vicarious (approx 7:03) [In Hinduism, Srimati Rukmini was the first wife and queen of Krishna, the 8th avatar of Vishnu, mothered a child named Vicaru]
02. Jambi (approx 7:12) [province of Indonesia?]
03. Wings For Marie (Pt 1) (approx 6:20)
04. 10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2) (approx 10:26)
05. The Pot (approx 6:11)
06. Lipan Conjuring (approx 1 min) [as in Lipan Apache?]
07. Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann) (time from next)
08. Rosetta Stoned (14:45)
09. Intension (approx 6:44)
10. Right In Two (approx 9:04) [write in two]
11. Viginti Tres (approx 8.41) [viginti: twenty. tres: three. maybe Viginti Tertius Thompson? lived 1862-1946]

I threw in some approximate and supposed track times from the review from that Andy guy. Its supposed to be about 77 minutes, so I just took all the time he calculated and subratced it from 77 and ended up with what I'll call the time for track 11, which is 8:41. Probably inacurate, but its the best I've got.

The point of this post:

There's reference to the rosetta stone (rosetta stoned) which was written in two languages, Egyptian and Greek. Written in Two languages. Write in two, or "Right in two."

Maybe hints that there are subliminal messages in the lyrics if translated to another language. Its a far fetch, but its a thought.

I've found "Viginti Tres" is latin for "Twenty Three," after a bit of research. Most help came from wiktionary. I'm gunna keep looking at this little puzzle, even if its not :-)

edit: added some notes to track listing.

edit: The Rosetta Stone is the third Ptolemy stone, the first being the stone of Canopus and I'm not sure what the second is called. This is really far out there, but not too far not to mention. Notice that Canopus sounds like Cannibas. Maybe thats what Tool is implying with Rosetta "Stoned" ot The "Pot."

edit: "who or what came before this precious moment." Tool obviously has some sort of affection for ancient civilizations. The concept of the Rosetta Stone further implys this.

edit: edited for ergonomics.


That is horrible, you barely even did any homework or research prior to posting this. What, you found one, maybe two possibilites out of one song? There's a lot more to it than that.

[Inner_Eulogy]

from wiki:

The Rosetta Stone is a dark grey-pinkish granite stone (originally thought to be basalt in composition) with writing on it in two languages, Egyptian and Greek, using three scripts, Hieroglyphic, Demotic Egyptian and Greek. Because Greek was well known, the stone was the key to deciphering the hieroglyphs.


At least this guy was on spot. Rosetta Stoned will likely be in reference to the key of translation but with a twist in viewing it from a different persepctive as the one described above. Layered lyrics as always, I'm sure that's why it's titled Rosetta StoneD as in past tense perhaps. This also makes sense with Lost Keys if any of you have read into what that is about.

[LabRat404]

That is horrible, you barely even did any homework or research prior to posting this. What, you found one, maybe two possibilites out of one song? There's a lot more to it than that.

I was intending to provoke thought.

[tool25]

and u did, just more negative than expected

[Mr.Rubberburner]

yes, very violent ones....kidding

[homerbartkramer]

this is the worst post i've ever read

[submachine]

I've already mentioned, in my first post all the more, that I'm considering the fact that I may be looking too hard.

by the way, where did you get that information about the track lengths?

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002237083

[submachine]

ive always thought that Layne would be a good name if i ever have a son...

Layme

[bozziodrummer000]

y-k=1/4p(x-h)^2 ...<< isnt that the formula for a parabola? thats pretty clever

[LabRat404]

Crucify your egos, fools ^.^

I jest

[LabRat404]

y-k=1/4p(x-h)^2 ...<< isnt that the formula for a parabola? thats pretty clever

its so much more simple than that. Take this snippet of C code for example:


/* call main() and make a window */

int y=4,x=4;

while (1)
{
x=cos(y);
y=sin(x);
}

/* use OpenGL to graph those points */

/*
x for the first 5 loops:
0.99756405025982424761316268064426
0.99999995383453999838888931971182
0.99999995360882922988583829516604
0.9999999536088292508256862371779
0.99999995360882925082568429452698

y for the first 5 loops:
0.017409897553436788845968489111674
0.017452405631666953082576653773524
0.01745240562772815700403815542012
0.017452405627728157369451784137071
0.01745240562772815736945175023658
*/

/* Its not a spiral, but it's still a porabola! .. sort of */

[IAMNOTBENLEIGHTON]

"Vicarious" from Wikipedia:
1.Experienced or gained through someone else.
2.Done on behalf of others

Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vicarious"

www.alexgrey.com-
Many fans have inquired regarding the album art TOOL has released on Amazon for pre-sale of the album.
The cover is an adaptation of Alex Grey's painting, Net of Being

Im sure it's been mentioned that the new cover art is not an Adam Jones piece before, but in relation to the title "vicarious" it kinda makes sense to mention it now.

[LabRat404]

"Vicarious" from Wikipedia:
1.Experienced or gained through someone else.
2.Done on behalf of others

Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vicarious"

www.alexgrey.com-
Many fans have inquired regarding the album art TOOL has released on Amazon for pre-sale of the album.
The cover is an adaptation of Alex Grey's painting, Net of Being

Im sure it's been mentioned that the new cover art is not an Adam Jones piece before, but in relation to the title "vicarious" it kinda makes sense to mention it now.

Adam didn't do Lateralus cover Art either...

[hooker w/ a pineal gland]

This thread is a rip off of HOLY BLOOD, HOLY JAMBI **cranky**


ha! that's fuckin funny. not sure how many will get it though...

[jack_without_sally]

this is a good theory dude, i dont think its far fetch, they did spend alot of time on the album so who knows what they have in store for us.....maybe your right

[RedVilliam]

this is a good theory dude, i dont think its far fetch, they did spend alot of time on the album so who knows what they have in store for us.....maybe your right
Tool was abducted and replaced by Aliens from the planet Q13829 shortly following the release of Opiate, and they, being of immense mental prowess that we can't even begin to articulate, have been trying to warn us through omens about impending invasion and subsequent destruction of all human life on the planet Earth (and for that matter the entire universe). However, sense their desperate pleas have fallen on largely deaf ears they have given up (and who could blame them) so they are leaving us with this fair-well album which sadly we probly wont be around to hear anyway..... I don't know, to paranoid?

[tool25]

my thoughts exactly

[jack_without_sally]

Tool was abducted and replaced by Aliens from the planet Q13829 shortly following the release of Opiate, and they, being of immense mental prowess that we can't even begin to articulate, have been trying to warn us through omens about impending invasion and subsequent destruction of all human life on the planet Earth (and for that matter the entire universe). However, sense their desperate pleas have fallen on largely deaf ears they have given up (and who could blame them) so they are leaving us with this fair-well album which sadly we probly wont be around to hear anyway..... I don't know, to paranoid?
lmao its either paranoia or just alot of weed....which would lead to the paranoia lol