Confirmed Release Date of the single.

[Wretched]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/slrainox/confirmation.jpg

After emailing the DJ at KATT radio; he replied to me with this information. It is no longer a rumour - it is indeed the proof you all spent yesterday looking for. Of course as the subject in the email says, it is entitled to change due to the bands discretion, but the date is what the DJs have been told.

I certainly hope this isn't considered "rumour" topic worthy, from what I gather, this part is for actual info - this is actual info.

[MrMcPheezy]

Moved to rumors. Nice try, though.

[Wretched]

Moved to rumors.

Well I guess I was wrong, but this isn't a rumour anymore. The rumour was when no one had confirmation.

[flipmojo]

I think it still falls under rumor without an official announcement. Still, it is great to think we may get the single April 17th.

[Wretched]

I think it still falls under rumor without an official announcement. Still, it is great to think we may get the single April 17th.

Aye.

[WearingVans501s]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/slrainox/confirmation.jpg

After emailing the DJ at KATT radio; he replied to me with this information. It is no longer a rumour - it is indeed the proof you all spent yesterday looking for. Of course as the subject in the email says, it is entitled to change due to the bands discretion, but the date is what the DJs have been told.

I certainly hope this isn't considered "rumour" topic worthy, from what I gather, this part is for actual info - this is actual info.


i wonder how much spam we could get sent to his email.........

[Madklikor]

The date seems credible considering the embargo ends on the 13.

[Wretched]

i wonder how much spam we could get sent to his email.........

Alot, but I already get abunch of porn. like 30 asian porn site spams. I was quite the masturbater, before I discovered Torrents, I'd just sign up for everything.

[dracomordag]

I would think they would release the single before press releases, but maybe not.

[Wretched]

lewl, the picture has been edited guys - what a fucking ***got, didn't want anyone spamming his account!

[paraflux]

If you click the link, and get an error box, refresh and the screenshot comes up. Best release info we have so far from anyone who works in music.

[dracomordag]

I guess this has been deemed near-credible.

Sounds good

[Wretched]

I'm hoping it all turns out well. I'd love to have the single next month.

edit:

hodge says:
y do U get all the Luv in teh world?

Calm these hands before they snare another pill, and drive another nail - down another needy hole. says:
PIANO BREAKIN

WHYYYYYYY DO YOU GET ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD?
hodge says:

UR HALO'S SLIPPIN DOWN

Calm these hands before they snare another pill, and drive another nail - down another needy hole. says:
SLIPPIN' DOWN YOU CHOKE YOU

[hellboy1975]

April 17th, that would be Maynard's Birthday. Birthday present perhaps?

[Goldfoot]

Maybe they'll actually get something out on his birthday this time.

[Unifaun]

haha your e-mail is still visible

[Wretched]

well add me to msn then.

[MrMcPheezy]

If you click the link, and get an error box, refresh and the screenshot comes up. Best release info we have so far from anyone who works in music.

All I get is a blurry image of a message sent with hotmail.

[Goldfoot]

All I get is a blurry image of a message sent with hotmail.

Which is what you were supposed to see.

[T-13h]

All I get is a blurry image of a message sent with hotmail.
zoom in?

[Wretched]

check the subject line.

[paraflux]

All I get is a blurry image of a message sent with hotmail.


...You get a screenshot of an email, at least in my browser I do.

Phone number is correct.

http://www.katt.com/airstaff/jakedaniels.php

I sent an email, I should get a response by tomorrow but all of this looks legit.

[toolloot]

you censored the "To:" line even though it has your email at the top?

nice one lasagnaboobs.

[Wretched]

you censored the "To:" line even though it has your email at the top?

nice one lasagnaboobs.

IT IS CALLED BEING STUPID. Leave me alone about it.

Either way, add me to msn if my email enlightens you. I'm a good lay, but an even better chat.

[spiralout987]

i know you live in canada, but it says it was sent at 9:48 pm??????

Is this legit?

[Wretched]

i know you live in canada, but it says it was sent at 9:48 pm??????

Is this legit?

I don't know what your point is? Maybe his time was different? Check the clock on the screenshot. I'm willing to forward this email to anyone who wants it.

[spiralout987]

the email "sent time"

He's in Oklahoma right?

[Wretched]

the email "sent time"

He's in Oklahoma right?

Sure?

[spiralout987]

it's only 5:40 pm central

[Wretched]

it's only 5:40 pm central

And your point is?

[spiralout987]

how could that email have been sent at 9:48pm and its only 5:40pm, if Oklahoma is central time as well!!!!!!!

[Wretched]

how could that email have been sent at 9:48pm and its only 5:40pm, if Oklahoma is central time as well!!!!!!!

I don't know. Do you think I made this up somehow? I'll gladly send you the email itself.

[Wretched]

Would the fact in my hotmail account it says I'm using "universal time" affect anything?

[Chris_Brightwell]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/slrainox/confirmation.jpgIt's funny to me that you blacked out your email address in the email itself but missed it in the nav bar.

[Wretched]

It's funny to me that you blacked out your email address in the email itself but missed it in the nav bar.

I know, I've already admitted I'm stupid.

But it only gets better with you more or less telling me. Just be thankful I even tried haha.

ADD ME TO MSN BOIS.

[ATARI]

wikec

[/Parallelus/Reflectionis/]

Hotmail is worth shit that's why.

Seriously, it happens often that the time on my messages is fucking rediculous.

[Goldfoot]

Why is anyone bitching about the time? If he made this up, why would he put a future time in there?

[Goldfoot]

We will know when flux gets a reply.

[Wretched]

"Confirmed Release Date of the single."

lol. yea, cuz a screenshot of some kid's email is such confirmation

The screenshot of a radio DJ confirming it is confirmation though. Confirmation that it atleast is coming. And he was told it was april 17th.

[Fulcanelli]

This is just more bullshit. Why would the release date of the single be kept secret from the fans and not to the radio stations. Also, why inform the radio stations that there will be a single on April 17th but not mention the title? Of course, it's all possible but I just don't believe it. Think about it, we don't know for a fact that the release date of the new album is May 2nd. All that we know for sure is that it's coming out in Spring. Blair said that they hope it will be released in May and hopefully at the beginning.

[dracomordag]

This is just more bullshit. Why would the release date of the single be kept secret from the fans and not to the radio stations. Also, why inform the radio stations that there will be a single on April 17th but not mention the title? Of course, it's all possible but I just don't believe it. Think about it, we don't know for a fact that the release date of the new album is May 2nd. All that we know for sure is that it's coming out in Spring. Blair said that they hope it will be released in May and hopefully at the beginning.

because radio stations need to know more than we do?

I thought that was pretty obvious.

[Nebel]

This is just more bullshit. Why would the release date of the single be kept secret from the fans and not to the radio stations. Also, why inform the radio stations that there will be a single on April 17th but not mention the title? Of course, it's all possible but I just don't believe it. Think about it, we don't know for a fact that the release date of the new album is May 2nd. All that we know for sure is that it's coming out in Spring. Blair said that they hope it will be released in May and hopefully at the beginning.

That was a while ago, I'm sure they'll have the final date by now but there's no stopping it being pushed back ala Lateralus

[Fulcanelli]

because radio stations need to know more than we do?

I thought that was pretty obvious.

I understand that but the single release date is claimed to be April 17th, which is more than a month and a half away. The radio stations don't need that information just yet. What is the point of them even knowing that now? They don't know the title and they aren't telling people that that's the release date of the single. There's just no point, is there?

[dracomordag]

I don't really see how he could fake this, though. He's offered to forward the email. If you doubt it, take him up on the offer.

If he's telling the truth, the only way he could fake it would be to hack the guy's email account.

[ATARI]

We'll find out eventually

[Wretched]

I offer a forward. I've already forwarded to some fellow named Dave.

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

The date seems credible considering the embargo ends on the 13.

I though the embargo ended on March 10. That's the way I took it anyway (Blair's post about Danny's return).

[Madklikor]

I though the embargo ended on March 10. That's the way I took it anyway (Blair's post about Danny's return).

Some journalist said they have the right to publish their review only on April 13, it's in some other thread.

[Vexom]

This is my first post so I don't anticipate people to take my post seriously but I also emailed KATT back when the post about the radio promo was here and I have recieved a similar responce. It had no body other then that same signature but the title was "tool info. april 17th the first single." If anybody wants me to forward it let me know.

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

Some journalist said they have the right to publish their review only on April 13, it's in some other thread.

Yes I know that but see I thought the embargo ended on march 10 but they weren't allowed to publish it until april 13 (around the release date of the single perhaps?).

[noisetherapy]

driving around today. neil morrison, (10am-3pm) from 99.3 CFOX states after playing stinkfist, that we will here the first single from them on april 12th.

[thejesus]

driving around today. neil morrison, (10am-3pm) from 99.3 CFOX states after playing stinkfist, that we will here the first single from them on april 12th.

hmmm....middle of the week...a Wednesday...seems odd...

4/17 is a Monday...seems more likely

[Goldfoot]

hmmm....middle of the week...a Wednesday...seems odd...

4/17 is a Monday...seems more likely

Didn't Schism debut on a Friday? Not saying you're wrong, just saying. Maynard's birthday is a likely bet anyway though.

[Cid]

is there really a set day of the week singles come out?

[thejesus]

Didn't Schism debut on a Friday? Not saying you're wrong, just saying. Maynard's birthday is a likely bet anyway though.

lol, I honestly can't remember...

I think I got that one off of Bearshare or something a few days or a week before it was supposed to be released, so when the radio started playing it, it was already old news

[noisetherapy]

im just relaying information from vancouver radio. what does it matter which day of the week it is?

like goldfoot. im not saying, just saying

[Goldfoot]

im just relaying information from vancouver radio. what does it matter which day of the week it is?

like goldfoot. im not saying, just saying

People have already claimed this same thing though and caused the fastest growing thread I've ever seen when like 20 people were listening to the same station online and discussing it here.

[thejesus]

is there really a set day of the week singles come out?

not that I know of, but once you decide to release a single a few weeks before the album, just seems logical to do it at the beginning of the week...I can't think of any compelling reason to pick a day in the middle of the week..

[thejesus]

im just relaying information from vancouver radio. what does it matter which day of the week it is?

like goldfoot. im not saying, just saying

it doesn't really matter...the sooner the better...

it's just that, when I heard the original release date of 4/17 and saw that it was a Monday, I just assumed the band decided to do it at the beginning of the week two weeks before the record comes out...

There's just something more psychologically satisfying about releasing new stuff/information on a Monday than on a random day in the middle of the week

[noisetherapy]

isnt april 13th the end of the embargo? meaning why thursday?

[Cid]

not that I know of, but once you decide to release a single a few weeks before the album, just seems logical to do it at the beginning of the week...I can't think of any compelling reason to pick a day in the middle of the week..

i don't see it being any more logical to do it on a monday as it is on a wednesday or a saturday or any day for that matter. doesn't seem to have any significance whatsoever, which is why i thought you might know some day the industry does things kind of like albums released on tuesdays.

[thejesus]

i don't see it being any more logical to do it on a monday as it is on a wednesday or a saturday or any day for that matter. doesn't seem to have any significance whatsoever, which is why i thought you might know some day the industry does things kind of like albums released on tuesdays.

albums are released on Tuesdays out of necessity so the record stores can receive them on Monday and have time to put them on the shelves...Tuesday was historically the earliest practical day of the week that new albums could be released since many stores are closed on Sundays and shipping services don't operate on Sunday...

l

[orange.juice]

People have already claimed this same thing though and caused the fastest growing thread I've ever seen when like 20 people were listening to the same station online and discussing it here.
twas fun though...

[mike tyson]

I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE POT!

[thejesus]

I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THE POT!

you mean The Thorn?

:D

[Foamy]

you mean The Thorn?

:D
.

[mike tyson]

NO, I MEAN THE POT

[disaxiom]

i'm from vancouver and i also heard the same thing on the fox! :)

[skizzott]

I think the single coming out on the 12 kinda coincides with the embargo ending the 13th. Let everyone hear the single and then a day later all the reviews and stuff will come out, that way the title is a mystery up until it's played??? just a thought.

[MoreTool]

can't wait to listen to that single, i think i lock myself in my room and listen to it on repeat the whole day

[Goldfoot]

*puts on local rock station*

[NateDaTater]

I also heard from someone in ToolArmy that the CD is due out April 11th. I don't know where they heard that, but there's another source...

[mattw]

i'm from vancouver and i also heard the same thing on the fox! :)

I'm not from Vancouver but I am very excited! April 12th? That's good and if this embargo thing ends, apparently, on April 13th, we may actually be getting some concrete info for once. I'm just growing tired of all this speculation, whether real or not real etc. (album name, track listing, artwork)

Thanks for posting something somewhat genuine!

[furthermore630]

i didnt see this mentioned on the boards yet, but i heard on the radio today in southern california that the first track "Vicarious" will be released to the radio on or before April 17th.

[hanger25934]

sweet

[magnolia]

April 17th has long been rumored to be the single's release date.... so it's good to hear it from another source!

[Mitote]

Wait a minute now..how can they release 'Vicarious' when it's not a real song? Isn't the tracklist an elaborate hoax? lol

[bbunt302]

So they actually announced the title? If I'm not mistaken, this is the first case I've actually heard of someone dropping the single's name. Interesting.

Oh well... less than a month away now...

[flipmojo]

Wow. I thought 'The Pot' was going to be the first single. Maybe we will get lucky and toolband.com will let us know in the coming weeks exactly what the first single is and confirm the date of April 17th.

[Bogart]

Should have saved the mods some time and posted this thread in the Rumors section...welcome to tdn.

[jasonchristopher]

some people haven't been able to post directly to rumors including me. i dont' know what the problem is.

[spiralout987]

i called my radio station in Austin...
they are waiting...

said in 2 weeks

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

i didnt see this mentioned on the boards yet, but i heard on the radio today in southern california that the first track "Vicarious" will be released to the radio on or before April 17th.

sexxxy.

[MoreTool]

the single wasn't suppose to be track 5 or 6??

[BeeoBee]

Wow. I thought 'The Pot' was going to be the first single. Maybe we will get lucky and toolband.com will let us know in the coming weeks exactly what the first single is and confirm the date of April 17th.


i dont know if you guys remembered back before schism was released but "fruitcake blair" started gradualy giving us lines from the lyrics of schism weeks before it hit the net and every couple of days giving us more and more of the song..im gonna guess he does it again this time..at least i hope ..that was pretty cool

[dissonance19]

the single wasn't suppose to be track 5 or 6??


I think Andy King just heard it and assumed that by how it sounded saying it's "most commercial track they've ever done." Although, I don't know how it'd top Schism for that title.

and yeah it was track 5 on the review.

[KJM]

I think Andy King just heard it and assumed that by how it sounded saying it's "most commercial track they've ever done." Although, I don't know how it'd top Schism for that title.

and yeah it was track 5 on the review.


I don't think schism is the most commercial track they've ever done.

[Nemesis]

Wait a minute now..how can they release 'Vicarious' when it's not a real song? Isn't the tracklist an elaborate hoax? lol

The media don't know much more than us anyway.

[SuperSteve]

Which radio station in socal was this from?

[Exoskeletal]

Oooooooh. This is THE one. Ya know what, pluggers? Radio might even go for this!
"Might even go"... I think he just assumed that this could be the single.
The media don't know much more than us anyway.
Well they should know, since they are gettin it officialy, there should be some kind of contract or something. And as they said it, it seems they have sure that the track is called Vicarious. I think Tool wouldn't say that the first single they are releasing is just the first track, and then the radio would check it on the internet. This kinda proves to me the authenticity of the tracklisting.

[mattw]

Yeah, in adding to the above posts, I think everyone just assumed that track 5 would be the first single because of the Andy King review and that the title, 'The Pot', corresponded with what Blair mentioned about the first single i.e. it starts with a P or a V etc.

Both songs (track 1 and track 5, 'Vicarious' and 'The Pot') have been reviewed in quite a positive manner:

Vicarious:

"Mesmeric start. Hypnotic beat. Jagged, angular off beats.
Familiar trancey passages punctuated by a guitar part reminiscent of an older
Tool track. Tribal drum beats f@!# with a lovely melody and climax with
Maynard’s vocals. I am going to cry". (Andy King)

"But I will tell you the opening cut for the new Tool album just smacked me in the head and it certainly is far more aggressive than what you’ll hear on or what you heard on Lateralus album." (Andrew Haug - Triple J)

The Pot:

"Oooooooh. This is THE one. Ya know what, pluggers? Radio might even go for this! Maynard’s vocals at the start are quite extraordinary". "Easily the most commercial track to date. In fact, easily the most commercial track Tool have EVER done. That guitar is waaay strong again". "This is still twisted. It’s hard but commercial. The end spells a relief as climactic as a boil bursting". "This is a SERIOUSLY awesome track. Just you mark my words". (Andy King again)


So either track sounds good...

[bluefire]

maybe its kinda like how parabola was the most radio sounding song on lateralus, but schism was the single.

[/V\agina]

P or V... I guess it's V.

Good

[flipmojo]

P or V... I guess it's V.

Good

Don't count on it. Wait for confirmation from toolband.com

[benfti]

The fact of the matter is singles are only lifted as a means to promote an album. The new album is going to chart in number 1 all over the world regardless of the first single. The second single however is the means of generating sell through.

I worked for a record company for a number of years. If the band was established we released what we called the albums "hit" as the second single to get more albums moving after the initial release rush.

[Natalie Portman]

Wow, 10,000 Days is already ranked #124 on Amazon music, and we are still over a month out. Personally, I'll buy it in the store so I don't have to wait on UPS to get it to me, but it's still interesting to see it ranked so high this far away from release.

[noisetherapy]

I think the single coming out on the 12 kinda coincides with the embargo ending the 13th. Let everyone hear the single and then a day later all the reviews and stuff will come out, that way the title is a mystery up until it's played??? just a thought.


i agree with you. one day later everyone can talk about it. cause everyone will be looking for it.

[jhnygsh]

I also heard from someone in ToolArmy that the CD is due out April 11th. I don't know where they heard that, but there's another source...

nope

[MasterOfKtulu109]

I don't think schism is the most commercial track they've ever done.


me either. a 7 minute song is not commercial at all.

[Dredg]

me either. a 7 minute song is not commercial at all.


radio version was not 7 minutes.

[Nebel]

Wow, 10,000 Days is already ranked #124 on Amazon music, and we are still over a month out. Personally, I'll buy it in the store so I don't have to wait on UPS to get it to me, but it's still interesting to see it ranked so high this far away from release.

Number #41 now.

[stinkfish]

Vicarious is a fucking cool title

[Runner701]

Wait a minute... The radio version of schism is not the same as the album version. I am somewhat confident that there is no difference. - both clock in at about 6:49... maybe the track was shortened in specific markets, but I doubt that would be the case.

[thejesus]

P or V... I guess it's V.

Good

Jesus...isn't V like 7 or 8 minutes long though? I don't have the Andy King thing in front of me? Anyone got it?

[thejesus]

Vicarious is a fucking cool title

sounds like "bi-curious" to me...

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

#36 on amazon now. and still lots of time to go.

[TurdEye13]

17 april is true.
13 april the embargo is lifted.

correct

[Dharma Bear]

we will here the first single from them on april 12th.

Its now marked on my calendar :)
Im all excited and gitty like a school girl.

[martyr]

but you're a panda?!?!

[dracomordag]

end of embargo means jack shit as far as getting concrete info: remember how Tool didn't tell anyone track titles or the album title?

[jasonchristopher]

end of embargo means jack shit as far as getting concrete info: remember how Tool didn't tell anyone track titles or the album title?

I think you're wrong, because the album process takes a shitload of people to make happen, including subcontractors for artwork and pressing aswell as the other people who worked in the recording studio, the mastering, the mixing. I understand that the embargo applies to all of these people and I doubt it's possible to keep a secret under wraps once this thing is lifted. Also with the single coming so will the concrete info including track titles and album name. It's when they really go into gear promoting the thing.

[KJM]

Wait a minute... The radio version of schism is not the same as the album version. I am somewhat confident that there is no difference. - both clock in at about 6:49... maybe the track was shortened in specific markets, but I doubt that would be the case.


radio stations edit them if they feel the need

[dracomordag]

I think you're wrong, because the album process takes a shitload of people to make happen, including subcontractors for artwork and pressing aswell as the other people who worked in the recording studio, the mastering, the mixing. I understand that the embargo applies to all of these people and I doubt it's possible to keep a secret under wraps once this thing is lifted. Also with the single coming so will the concrete info including track titles and album name. It's when they really go into gear promoting the thing.


Read any leaked review of the album: they all mention it as being entirely untitled. Which means that none of them know the title or tracklisting and cannot give us any more concrete info than Blair. I, personally, believe that the 10kD stuff is true, but if you were looking for complete proof from an April 13th review, than you're not gonna find it.

[noisetherapy]

radio stations edit them if they feel the need

craziest thing about hearing it on the radio KJM....

when i was in my truck, neil came on started speaking of tool... i was already intrigued... cause the lisence plate of the vehicle infront of me was 046 KJM.

coincidence???? no, but still kinda funny.

[jasonchristopher]

Read any leaked review of the album: they all mention it as being entirely untitled. Which means that none of them know the title or tracklisting and cannot give us any more concrete info than Blair. I, personally, believe that the 10kD stuff is true, but if you were looking for complete proof from an April 13th review, than you're not gonna find it.

I'm not talking about just the media. There are plenty of other ways info gets out. plus what would the point of not promoting the "real" album with illegitimate info be right before it's released. All that would do is cause more confusion and result in less album sales.

[chonus]

#36 on amazon now. and still lots of time to go.

what about the chili peppers album?

[chonus]

what about the chili peppers album?

Stadium Arcadium

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #240 in Music
Yesterday: #455 in Music


10,000 Days

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #27 in Music
Yesterday: #124 in Music

[Inner_Eulogy]

I think Andy King just heard it and assumed that by how it sounded saying it's "most commercial track they've ever done." Although, I don't know how it'd top Schism for that title.

and yeah it was track 5 on the review.

Fuck making "commercial" tracks, how about making 'em for the PEOPLE

[chonus]

Fuck making "commercial" tracks, how about making 'em for the PEOPLE


as opposed to making em' for...

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

Stadium Arcadium

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #240 in Music
Yesterday: #455 in Music


10,000 Days

Amazon.com Sales Rank: #27 in Music
Yesterday: #124 in Music

Yay for ass kicking!

[exojjl]

driving around today. neil morrison, (10am-3pm) from 99.3 CFOX states after playing stinkfist, that we will here the first single from them on april 12th.
yeah same thing here. They just announced it on KISW right after playing stinkfist as well............all they said is that its called vicarious and its over 7 minutes long.

[Fap]

but you're a panda?!?!

There's more to pandas than they let you believe.

[el57]

I think Andy King just heard it and assumed that by how it sounded saying it's "most commercial track they've ever done." Although, I don't know how it'd top Schism for that title.

Yeah I'm pretty sure Sober or HWAP were their most commercial tracks.

[Drozz]

I don't even have an actual rock station where I live...all we have is pop, country, or hair metal.

how much does that suck?


the answer is a lot.

[phreak03]

maybe April 17 is the release date for the video...

[DJ07]

This thread isn't of much importance, I just decided to post it anyway for your guy's benefits in knowing if a leak will come out before the 17th or not ...

I emailed the local radio station here, 92.3 ... which was the station that played APC's Weak and Powerless a few days before everyone else. I recorded it off the radio and put that crappy ass version out on the internet for you all. Haha

Anyway, here's what was said:
--------

Subject RE: New Tool Single?
Date Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:28:04 +0000

I wish I could say that we are going to sneak this one on the air, but they are being super guarded with this new Tool stuff. I can't say I blame them. Anyways, to answer your question, as far as I know, we have no exclusive leak with this song, boooo!

Thanks for listening!
xIggyx

--------
Subject: New Tool Single?

Hey Iggy,

Quick question. I know the new Tool single is suppsoed to hit the air on
April 17th. Have you guys gotten your copy of it yet? Is there any possibility
that it will be played before April 17th, like A Perfect Circle - Weak and
Powerless was played on 923 a few days before the rest of the country got it?

I'm really lookin forward to hearing it, thanks for any help. Keep up the good
work!

-Dan

-----

So there's the word from Cleveland., if any of you care.

[rsh]

This is probably the only thread around here with any truth to it.

[HolyReality]

this whole "no leak" thing is bugging the hell out of me. I need to hear something new. and soon.

[pryingopenmy3rdeye]

couldnt the radio stations get in deep shit if they put it out early, like a law suit or something if the band wanted to take it that far?

[DJ07]

I'm pretty sure they could get in trouble.

I'm still not clear as to what the deal with APC's single and them playing it early. Either APC gave them the go ahead as a special treat for Cleveland (doesn't make that much sense) or they just did it on their own and didn't expect someone to record it (me) because they weren't saying what the enw song was until the moment it was played.

I just had a feeling it was APC though and was ready for it.

Anyway, I'm not gonna hold my breath for a leak anymore. 10 days now, doesn't really matter.

[rsh]

Remember when it was june and people were all going "teleincision august 16th"


It's now april 06, I'm sure another month wont hurt.

[Dionysos]

The 17th of April is Maynard's birthday, right? Well, just imagine (haha) the single as a birthday gift from him to us (the Tool fans). Like he's going to give us a piece of his birthday cake. And I hope we'll all enjoy it. We won't get a piece of it a week before his birthday (nobody does that, I guess). So, just wait , and try to get busy the next few weeks and time will fly.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm also annoyed to by the "embargo", Blair being such a dick (I hope he'll get abducted by aliens someday), but well, just wait.

[Metalgod666]

I was just about to post this. Today on K Rock after Sober was on he said on Monday the new single would be played on the air. I'll keep you guys updated on this

[gerbil]

Like, three days from now Monday?

[HolyReality]

that would be kick ass.

[tempathy]

i'll tell you, this is taking WAY TOO LONG

[zavlin]

It is kinda impressive that were almost a week away from the single hitting airwaves and its nowhere to be found.....But when it does get to radio, i dont think im gonna be able to resist listening to it now...the suspense is too much;)

[tooldude]

record that shit

[gerbil]

I wish 92.3 came in clearer down here. Just about 5 minutes north, and it's clear as a bell.

[HiPp_1]

For the longest time (5 YEARS!) I have alway told myself, 'be patient, it will be here soon enough.' Now I cant wait. Something has to come out in the next few days, but then again Apr. 17 is not that far off. Hearing the single will tide me over until May 2. I just cant believe we are going to hear new TOOL.

[saturnineremedy]

i'll tell you, this is taking WAY TOO LONG

blame hoffman

[tooldude]

man you guys are lucky theres only one 'rock' station around here and it sucks ass. they hardly ever play tool unless its 3am, let alone mention anything about a new cd, single, tour, etc..... >:O

[HiPp_1]

I know man, they never play TOOl in ATlanter

[Novus Opiate Seclorum]

They play tool all the time here,mostly undertow and aenima.

[maneva]

it is a bit frustrating to hear the new chili peppers single, whose album comes out after tool's, when we don't have the new tool track.

[HiPp_1]

"They play tool all the time here,mostly undertow and aenima."

Where is here?

and yah man it is totally frustrating.

[Novus Opiate Seclorum]

Arkansas-Little Rock,its frustrating but will be all the more sweeter when it does come out.

[HiPp_1]

Very True my friend.

[Alistair_Carson]

You know what this "I can't believe we're gonna hear new Tool in a few days" feeling reminds me of...

...The feeling you get when you know you're about to lose your virginity to a girl the coming evening. Where you just know it. Like you've decided on this night to do it up in your parents' bed or something.

[HiPp_1]

Yeah, its warm and wet

[TurdEye13]

I'm avoiding this thing

[DJ07]

I was just about to post this. Today on K Rock after Sober was on he said on Monday the new single would be played on the air. I'll keep you guys updated on this


So wait. Iggy said on air that the single will be played this upcoming Monday? Thats kidna of weird seeing he emailed me at 9 oclock tonight sayign otherwise ....

[HiPp_1]

What did he say pray tell.....

[zoomster]

i remember when i got a hold of that radio clip from weak and powerless.. the quality wasn't great but i played the hell out of that song... wonder if it's the same one...

[lachrymoIogy]

atleast you guys have a rock radio station in your area. after katrina, the only .."new rock" radio station went country. not like i had any use for the station prior to that, but now there's no way other than the internet for me to hear the single on the 17th. hope someone boots it. or maybe kabir can email me the mp3, and call it disaster relief? that'd sure help me 100x more than fema has so far (fucking assholes.)

[STA]

Either APC gave them the go ahead as a special treat for Cleveland (doesn't make that much sense) or they just did it on their own and didn't expect someone to record it (me) because they weren't saying what the enw song was until the moment it was played.

lol @ special treats for Cleveland. Hard to say why.

[toolebukk]

this whole "no leak" thing is bugging the hell out of me. I need to hear something new. and soon.


Lateralus; track 3

[submachine]

92.3 Krock, that used to be in NYC

[Metalgod666]

Maybe the reason why Cleveland gets a sneak peek first is because Maynard grew up here? Or maybe its because were obscure, I mean no one likes Cleveland

[Metalgod666]

So wait. Iggy said on air that the single will be played this upcoming Monday? Thats kidna of weird seeing he emailed me at 9 oclock tonight sayign otherwise ....

yeah he seriously said that. And Nard mentioned that new Tool music was "right around the corner" too

[ATARI]

yeah ohio can suck my balls

[BlueSecondSun]

Ok, well, I just got done speaking with Chris Ryan (102.1 The Edge, Dallas). He told me that they would be downloading the single "Vicarious" on APRIL 17TH from a secure server TOOL is providing. He also told me that ALL Clear Channel rock stations would be recieving it this way. In addition, he said they would HOPEFULLY have it ready for airplay by NOON.

Well, hope I helped some.

[ATARI]

hmm

[insaner]

no leak bitches!

[researchtriangle]

Interesting!

[r4v3n]

LOL...This doesnt surprise me one single bit...

[insaner]

but we do have snakes.

[amhx147]

thats not a bad idea (from tool's side)

[toocooltool]

Screenshot needed for internet validation purposes.

[zavlin]

Ok, well, I just got done speaking with Chris Ryan (102.1 The Edge, Dallas). He told me that they would be downloading the single "Vicarious" on APRIL 17TH from a secure server TOOL is providing. He also told me that ALL Clear Channel rock stations would be recieving it this way. In addition, he said they would HOPEFULLY have it ready for airplay by NOON.

Well, hope I helped some.
Very interesting....this helps explain why theres no leak....theyr not making casual copies of it....

[insaner]

my penis is leaking a little. should i go see a doctor?

[Raul78]

Secure server...boulderdash. Hackers get on this immediately.


:)

[zavlin]

my penis is leaking a little. should i go see a doctor?
not if the RIAA gets to it first

[czar]

God dammit. I'm going to be flying to Dallas (ironically) for Easter and I was hoping I'd have the damn single on my iPod for the flight.

[zavlin]

Secure server...boulderdash. Hackers get on this immediately.


:)

oh yeah, at this point its going to leak...but its pretty great idea because it wont leak until then.

[Sketch Soland]

the first time i hear it on the radio i think i may crash my car

[Nebel]

God dammit. I'm going to be flying to Dallas (ironically) for Easter and I was hoping I'd have the damn single on my iPod for the flight.

I'm sure that the song will debut on the Tool website for us lovely fans before it goes on radio.

[millermt]

I wonder if the band realizes that there is no longer a rock station in NYC. How the hell are people here going to hear the new single?!

[RedVilliam]

Chris Ryan is the man (man I miss the Eagle!).

[researchtriangle]

the question is, "is there a hacker that is a big enough tool fan to hack into the server"

[the great collapse]

chris ryan is the biggest tool fanboi (i think he's the one on the edge that is, at least)

[paraology]

I just really hope the new single isnt similar to schism. Though the bassline in schism was mindblowing, this was probably one of my least fav tool songs of all tiime.

[RedVilliam]

Anyone know a guy, that knows a guy who could do this?

[JuhaDeWolf]

Haha screw you guys. Cleveland rocks and that's all there is to it.

No but I heard this too, they finished playing Sober, and afterwards the DJ said something like "Tool's coming out with a new album May 2nd, and we'll have the single for you monday." Could be the 10th, could be the 17th, they're both Mondays, so I guess we'll just have to wait.

[czar]

the question is, "is there a hacker that is a big enough tool fan to hack into the server"

I guarantee you that (insert high made-up percentage here) of the people that do this shit on a daily basis are Tool fans.

[Foamy]

Tool: "How can we stop our single from leaking?"

Management: "Well we can send it to radio stations as an MP3! BECAUSE NOBODY CAN LEAK MP3S RIGHT GUYS?!?!!11"

Tool: "YEH LOL OK!!!1"

[researchtriangle]

Logic tells me that you'd have to know the target before you could attack it. Hackers would usually know what they want to break in to. So the person would need to know the internet address of this secure server. I think that would involve either some inside information or using some kind of social engineering. I don't know if that's an accurate way of thinking though.

[czar]

Tool: "How can we stop our single from leaking?"

Management: "Well we can send it to radio stations as an MP3! BECAUSE NOBODY CAN LEAK MP3S RIGHT GUYS?!?!!11"

Tool: "YEH LOL OK!!!1"

And I guarantee you it's not an mp3.

[Foamy]

And I guarantee you it's not an mp3.
Well it's a file on a server somewhere. Even if its an uncompressed file its easily converted.

[Sketch Soland]

And I guarantee you it's not an mp3.

i heard the single's gonna be sent in seashells and you'll have to put your ear real close to the shell to hear the song

[czar]

i heard the single's gonna be sent in seashells and you'll have to put your ear real close to the shell to hear the song

It's the wave of the future, they say.

[Foamy]

i heard the single's gonna be sent in seashells and you'll have to put your ear real close to the shell to hear the song
rololol

[toocooltool]

rololol

FOAMY create my CUSTOM TITLE... you know where !!!!!!!!11!!!!!!seashells!!!!1

[Foamy]

FOAMY create my CUSTOM TITLE... you know where !!!!!!!!11!!!!!!seashells!!!!1
LAWL

[Andorion]

It'll be leaked onto the internet on or before that day, guaranteed.

[Foamy]

I hope so, but I wouldnt bet on it. Not unless someone rips it straight off one of the alread-printed albums.

[the great collapse]

does it matter if it leaks at this point? its so close,

[slicknickshady]

I heard the same thing two weeks ago from a girl on toolarmy whos friends a DJ and she told her that they were gnna download it on the 17th from a tool server.

[meatstick]

I think Thin Lizzy did this in 85'
but someone hacked their Mac before it was released.

hopefully Tool has learned from their mistakes.

[czar]

http://www.toolband.com/securefolder/Tool_Single_Radio_Promo.wav

[Carny_Handles]

its the 17th holms. nards bday. ;)

[millermt]

Tool: "How can we stop our single from leaking?"

Management: "Well we can send it to radio stations as an MP3! BECAUSE NOBODY CAN LEAK MP3S RIGHT GUYS?!?!!11"

Tool: "YEH LOL OK!!!1"

You crack me up, Foamy.

[BaronSamedi]

OMG!!!11 zorz !!!1! I have discovered the secret location on Toolband:

http://www.toolband.com/TOOL/poopytheclown/Vicarious.wav

edit: APPARENTLY, they took it down directly after I posted it...

[Wretched]

I like how no one believed me when I posted this thread. Now it is nice to know I was right.

[TTM]

thats how it works around here

[delysid]

what are the chances of someone actually getting ahold of the single about a week ago?

My cousin, who is not the kind of person who makes up bullshit, told me that he heard the single at his friend's house a few days ago. He doesn't know where he got it or how, but he tells me that this is the type of person that could get ahold of something like that.

He said its really heavy, and that Maynard doesn't really sound like Maynard. Lots of vocal processing/distortion and he also mentioned that he's screaming at some parts.

My cousin lives on the Gulf Coast, and he has a lot of contacts. At the Tool show in Biloxi, he got to stand off on the side of the stage right near Adam and at APC at Voodoofest, he got to go backstage and met Billy, Josh, and Jeordie. He obviously knows some people who may have the access to something like that. He seemed really sure that it was THE single and not just some bullshit fake. I don't know what to think. He heard something, but it may not have been Tool.

[SuperSteve]

Your cousin probably heard Doom 3.

[Visceralus]

Your cousin probably heard Doom 3.

Doom 3 is the new TOOL.

[Scrunzset]

The American government lies to you! Help join the fight for Japanese supremacy of the world. More to come....

ohhhhh? ^_^

[insaner]

It's the wave of the future, they say.


gold jerry, GOLD!

[moneyisevil]

so new single on the 17th? yay or nay?

[Visceralus]

The Rock have said the new single will play on the 16th (in NZ) which is the 15th in the states. So yeah, you can signup to their website and listen to the shows here: www.therock.net.nz

[Spongebob]

awesome.

[The Official Fiction]

nice one. thanks!

[Visceralus]

just give it to me now.

[3poundsoflove]

It's exaustive how Pearl Jam's single and now also album (which is boring) can be easily found on the net, with worldwide suicide circulating since a month, ...while nothing from Tool is around at 17 days (28th April in Europe) from the release date. Even the cd cover is so sure.

Different marketing strategies.. or simply, Pearl Jam need to create the hype, Tool doesn't.

[oias.heeda]

It's exaustive how Pearl Jam's single and now also album (which is boring) can be easily found on the net, with worldwide suicide circulating since a month, ...while nothing from Tool is around at 17 days (28th April in Europe) from the release date. Even the cd cover is so sure.

Different marketing strategies.. or simply, Pearl Jam need to create the hype, Tool doesn't.

Totally! I have been the hugest pearl jam fan for years. I have all their albums and singles on vinyl, all books published and lots of rare tracks! But this new offering which i found the other day is utter shite! I hate to be so negative about someone else's art but the new album has nothing on earlier albums! Maybe they are to old [Hang on! Tool are about the same age!] or too rich to put out anything relative!

[oias.heeda]

http://www.toolshed.it/
http://www.aperfectcircle.it/

Nice Sites! Wish I could Speak Italian!

[Idiotica]

does anyone think it kinda odd tool are forcing us (the fans) to listen to radio for a chance to hear the single?

[amhx147]

trust me, i know that you guys are tired of hearing about repeat things, but it does go against this whole "tool streaming the song on monday the 17th to the stations" i just called the local rock station in 98x, (843)-769-4799, and they say that they do in fact have the tool single at their station. i asked when they were going to play it, he said its up to the studio manager, but they probably wouldnt go against the monday the 17th release date. bitch all you want about a wasteful thread, but this does somewhat dispute the "stream over the internet" claim that was put out there.

[just simulacra]

Didn't they say all CLEAR CHANNEL owned radiostations were going to get it streamed?

Doesn't that negate all other radio stations?

Maybe THEY'LL get singles.

There's a locally owned radio station here [103.9 the edge] that constantly flaunts its anti-corporate attitude in a rather laid-back-but-nevertheless-hilarious manner --- anyways, it makes me wonder ... as popular a station as they are, if Tool streams the single ... are they going to be left out?

[orange.juice]

we'll find out in five days.

[amhx147]

Didn't they say all CLEAR CHANNEL owned radiostations were going to get it streamed?

Doesn't that negate all other radio stations?

Maybe THEY'LL get singles.

There's a locally owned radio station here [103.9 the edge] that constantly flaunts its anti-corporate attitude in a rather laid-back-but-nevertheless-hilarious manner --- anyways, it makes me wonder ... as popular a station as they are, if Tool streams the single ... are they going to be left out?


i guess not, cause the non clear channel stations already have the single's in their hands.

[MrVinnie77]

As it's my first post, I realize some of what I might relay will come across as circumspect, but trust me when i say that those of us in radio aren't going to receive "Vicarious" until 10am EST (7a PST) Monday morning. It's arriving in a couple of different ways. We will be provided the option to download a high quality MP3 or WAV file. It will also be Fed Ex'd to radio stations with a guaranteed 10am/10:30am arrival.

I won't go into the conversations i've had with band management as I don't wish to ruin the relationship I've built with QPrime, but trust in the fact that they are doing everything in their power to keep this song, and the album, from leaking.

As for the proof that what I'm offering here is legit, my name is Vinnie and I'm the Music Director for WXDX-FM in Pittsburgh. If you want to ask me any specific questions, I'll gladly (and privately) answer what I can with what I know.
--vinnie

[randomhero8823]

i am the Program Director for KROQ!!! AND I HAVE THE ALBUM!!! AfTER LISTENING TO IT, I TRIED COMMITTING SUICIDE DUE TO ITS PURE AWESOMENESS, I DIDNT WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE BECAUSE MY LIFE SEEMED COMPLETE. THEN MY BITCH GF, CALLED 911 AS MY WRIST WERE BLEEDING. DAMN BITCH. I COULD BE IN TOOL HEAVEN RIGHT NOW, 10,000 miles high.

[ladiatia]

Anyone knows if a comercial realease for Vicarious is on the run?

[kyyuulle]

where are you guys getting the information about the clear channel streaming?

[Holydirt]

I'm not pissed about people discussing this stuff, just about idiots finding it necessary to start a fucking new thread everytime they have a bowel movement. There's a huge number of threads with this topic, deeming this thread obsolete.

[Kinesthesis]

A rock station, 103.9 The X (www.wxeg.com) DJ has mentioned the first single Vicarious should get a play after 11pm on Saturday. No details on why but I just heard it myself. Couldn't find any info on the site about it, but I guess I'll find out Saturday.

[RED_THE_HAT]

A rock station, 103.9 The X (www.wxeg.com) DJ has mentioned the first single Vicarious should get a play after 11pm on Saturday. No details on why but I just heard it myself. Couldn't find any info on the site about it, but I guess I'll find out Saturday.
You do realise that now that you have said that, the members of Tool, or their anti piracy people are gonna read this, and get on top of it. So bye bye early playing of Vicarious.... or whatever it is called... wait, what am i on about.... there is no new Tool album......

[Foamy]

What time zone is Ohio in?

[Erectus Fatalus]

It's bullshit. There is no album.


Yes there is! It's called Firefly and Maynard vocals are limited to crying.

[Boozy Eulogist]

What time zone is Ohio in?

Eastern

[Foamy]

So 4am my time...great. hah