!!!!PLAY THIS SONG IN REVERSE!!! A REFLECTION IS ALWAYS IN REVERSE!!

[something_Dark]

when I first listen to the song reflection I noticed that there are some unique things in the song that only a studio tech or just a hardcore musicphile would have noticed.
one of them being that Maynard is using a reverse re verb on his voice on the last verse.
I thought nothing of it because Ive worked with reverse re verb in a studio before and I wasn't really that impressed.
but i got to thinking "Reflection in a mirror is the reverse of the image in front of it"
so I recorded the song on my wave file recorder and played it back in reverse.
I noticed that the song in reverse almost sounds identical to the song played normal.
I also got a whole new set of lyrics from that last verse. although alot of it is just a mess but there is a point that you can clearly hear lyrics.
on purpose or just a fluke?

who knows but with these guys you can expect the unexpected.

and as for those lyrics Im not telling what i think they say cuase then some turd/jerk is going to post something rude about it. and Im not up for any asshole comments tonite..

okay? okay.

[toolloot]

Err. Give me a couple of mins while I try.

[toolloot]

Heh. that sounds really cool.

[something_Dark]

Err. Give me a couple of mins while I try.


I hope you hear what I hear. its like a little ways into the first verse, well the first verse backwards that is.

[toolloot]

I'll upload a reversed version for all.

http://tdn.youbint.com/Reflectionback.mp3 10mb file.
Up and running link.

[something_Dark]

Heh. that sounds really cool.


listen from 01:10 to 01:22. listen for the word mortal. sounds like Martal. the old way of saying it.

'

[toolloot]

Coincidence?

[toolloot]

Those drums make such a leet sound back to front.

[something_Dark]

wow! how did you upload a wav file to a tdn link?

[MrMcPheezy]

That link didn't work for me. :(

[something_Dark]

okay this is what I hear,

"you dont know why youre here foolish mortal" only death can save you, living again will never save you.

or " you know why youre here foolish martal"

either way the word foolish mortal is very easy to pick out.

[MrMcPheezy]

One of you should get on aim and send it to me.

[toolloot]

If you have problems with the link don't use the subdomain.
http://youbint.com/tdn/Reflectionback.mp3

[Kelly]

this is like lustmord sounding shit

[something_Dark]

If you have problems with the link don't use the subdomain.
http://youbint.com/tdn/Reflectionback.mp3


okay my recording was off so scratch the start time of 01:10. try 2:03 to about 2:13


I went by the media player's time. the whole song is 11:07

[steve99_9]

im listening to it in Cool Edit Pro
thats a pretty good find, sounds fucking cool

[bluefire]

I love the way adam's solos sound backwards. I can't make out anything though, I'm horrible at listening to backwards songs. Cool find, man.

[Fap]

I'll upload a reversed version for all.

http://tdn.youbint.com/Reflectionback.mp3 10mb file.
Up and running link.

That sounds especially cool around 4:51.

[dark_Speedo]

Sounds like a happy song backwards.

[awaking]

the guitar sounds the same through out the whole song.. very trippy

[waffel]

holy shit im trippin balls. the start of the song is awesome, the big wave. and its crazy cuz it sounds almost the same.

[something_Dark]

listen from 01:10 to 01:22. listen for the word mortal. sounds like Martal. the old way of saying it.

'




the more I listen the more
It sounds Like Martal or martyr.

[something_Dark]

listen from 01:10 to 01:22. listen for the word mortal. sounds like Martal. the old way of saying it.

'

Coincidence?


the more I listen the more
It sounds Like Martal or martyr.

[krumz]

really interesting! nice find

nb: I have started my day by listening to reflection backwards....is that bad omen :D haha...lets c

[Ertai]

lol...listen to reflection just with increased speed by 100%....

sounds fucking awsome... but chipmunk version of maynard

[MrMcPheezy]

It sounds interesting, but I don't hear anything in the lyrics.

[5th Eye]

I heard the foolish martal part. What do the real lyrics say there?

[dark_Speedo]

The melody part to the intro is just reversed, so it sounds the same when the song is played backwards. Thats pretty cool.

[MrMcPheezy]

I'm gonna have to go over the lyrics and see if I can find anything that would make any sense when read backwards.

[toolloot]

I don't hear anything in the lyrics. Sounds cool though.

[sdrawkcab]

http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm

[varg]

The melody part to the intro is just reversed, so it sounds the same when the song is played backwards. Thats pretty cool.
Yeah, the violin harmony was what fucked with my head, too. Really cool.
The lyrics... well...

[Ktuluvic]

This is pretty cool, although the lyrics part just seems to be the brain trying to make a pattern it recognizes. I didn't hear the lyric part at all until I read along.

[krumz]

http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm
pink floyd empty spaces is one of the clearest reverse lyrics I have ever heard....sweet

[something_Dark]

This is pretty cool, although the lyrics part just seems to be the brain trying to make a pattern it recognizes. I didn't hear the lyric part at all until I read along.


Yeah that's what I thought too, the brain trying to make sense of it and recognize something. and Ive got one of those over re-active brains to boot

What I'm still wondering is if there was any thing recorded on purpose with that reverse re verb, and maybe that's where I'm getting the words.

who knows

much thanks to toolloot for the re recording and web link! that first part sounds amazing! Like a wave and then slams into the song.

[Ocelot199]

This would actually be awsome to listen to if you could cut out Maynard. Reverse vox sound kinda annoying. Still, very very cool. The beginning was awsome.

Its cool how the guitar sounds almost exactly the same backwards as it does forwards.

[waffel]

The britney spear thing backwards is fuckin crazy too.

[dark_Speedo]

Stairway to heaven always makes me sad after I listen to that backwards... really depressing for some reason.

[hateAliases]

damn... ok its pretty cool the song especially the guitar sounds almost as it does normal but... hey i really dont think this whole mortal whatever thing is on purpose....

coincidence. allthough, i really dont like this word at all.

[paraflux]

Probably because they only exist if you let them.

[SuperSteve]

The britney spear thing backwards is fuckin crazy too.
Yeah it is.

The pokemon rap backwards is fucked.

[SuperSteve]

God damn, the Yoko Ono one from that site is creeping the shit out of me.

[something_Dark]

Okay I gotta quit listening to this!!! last nite I was at a lil after hours party and I kept thinking I could hear it coming from the other room where they were playing everything but tool!!!!

[toolloot]

Stairway to heaven always makes me sad after I listen to that backwards... really depressing for some reason.

That's because you're taking the escalator to HELL. :O





HAIL SATAN.

[ruby]

Hey, this sounded really good.

Almost like listening to new Tool material.. with the guy from Sigur Ros on vocals and Aphex Twin programming. :D

[BlackTulip]

awesome

[something_Dark]

Stairway to heaven always makes me sad after I listen to that backwards... really depressing for some reason.



OMG! thats creepy how clear the stairway reverse track is, whats up with the toolshed part?


Originally Posted by sdrawkcab
http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.html

[abrack29]

Man, that was cool. I heard the foolish mortal/martal/martyr part, but everything else sounds like gibberish, and I suck at backward song lyrics, so it must be really clear. And like everyone else said, I'm lovin the guitar backwards.

[Tyson]

I played the whole album backwards and ascended the 5th realm!

[snakeeyedhawk]

That's fucking awesome. Good catch.

[waffel]

i played the whole album backwards and managed to open my 4th and 5th eye, my 2nd anys and my 6th penishole.

[5th Eye]

Fifth eye and second anus?

Wow dude, that's some serious butt-action there.

[abrack29]

I just listened to pokemon backwards... I just here random yells, not "I love Satan" or whatever it was supposed to say.

[s ti N Kfizt]

sounds cool

[Leandrenos]

I'm always really sceptical about this play it backwards! kind of stuff but I must admit reflection backwards does kind of fuck with your head because indeed they sound so damn simmiral

[eonphi]

I noticed that the song in reverse almost sounds identical to the song played normal.
okay? okay.

tried it, it sounds like a completly new song...u can still tell it's reflection but it doesn't "almost sound identical"

[something_Dark]

tried it, it sounds like a completly new song...u can still tell it's reflection but it doesn't "almost sound identical"

bad choice of words there, of course it doesnt sound "identical", my bad.

hey I wonder if Adam did the solo's like that to make sure they sounded the same in reverse? Jimmy Hedrix tried it on purple Haze I think. Ive got Adam on myspace, and ive got reverse reflection playing on my myspace profile. I wonder how i could get him to hear it?

oh well.

happy weekend toolies!

[Nominal_Life]

Okay, I had this insight just now, came to post here and it was already here...But the lyrics I hear are "Tell Hiiiiiiiiiiiim your sins" for "It's calling Meeeeee" and something like "I believe it won't take long to meet him" during the "In my darkest moment feeling weak" part

[Nominal_Life]

I'd be willing to bet some layers of the song were recorded in the "backwards" way first then reversed to make the forward version on the album

[something_Dark]

Okay, I had this insight just now, came to post here and it was already here...But the lyrics I hear are "Tell Hiiiiiiiiiiiim your sins" for "It's calling Meeeeee" and something like "I believe it won't take long to meet him" during the "In my darkest moment feeling weak" part



whoa! yeah I kinda hear that too. I love the drums in reverse as well.

[Carny_Handles]

hehe, just for fun play both the album version and the backwards version at the same time. Sounds like ass in some parts, but others flow pretty well.

[justify_denials]

when I first listen to the song reflection I noticed that there are some unique things in the song that only a studio tech or just a hardcore musicphile would have noticed.
one of them being that Maynard is using a reverse re verb on his voice on the last verse.
I thought nothing of it because Ive worked with reverse re verb in a studio before and I wasn't really that impressed.
but i got to thinking "Reflection in a mirror is the reverse of the image in front of it"
so I recorded the song on my wave file recorder and played it back in reverse.
I noticed that the song in reverse almost sounds identical to the song played normal.
I also got a whole new set of lyrics from that last verse. although alot of it is just a mess but there is a point that you can clearly hear lyrics.
on purpose or just a fluke?

who knows but with these guys you can expect the unexpected.

and as for those lyrics Im not telling what i think they say cuase then some turd/jerk is going to post something rude about it. and Im not up for any asshole comments tonite..

okay? okay.
if you take the lyrics "the patient" from the song "the patient" (Of course that song) and you reverse it sounds exactly like he says "My shit"!!!!

[Vegama]

Yeah, the violin harmony was what fucked with my head, too. Really cool.
The lyrics... well...

you mean sitar...

[mystictigress]

This is so amazing and deliciously dark. I'm glad I found this. I missed the "foolish marytr" lyrics but I will give it more listens for sure.

[Noach]

The sitar parts sound the same backwards....holy Shit!

[burning bridges]

None of the links work for me.

[desoleary]

"Probably because they only exist if you let them."
I have to agree with this person, hey TOOL are deadly but I don't buy into all this hidden message stuff at all. Why? Of course TOOL are mysterious as **** but that doesn't mean that they are in any way malicious and here to **** people up. I think the idea that Maynard does portray very well is that you make it your own experience, which at the end of the day is the most important thing as it should be about the person and not just the band. Reflection is without doubt one of my favorite for the unbelievable performance by Danny Carey; he's progression is phenomenal in my opinion.

[something_Dark]

if you take the lyrics "the patient" from the song "the patient" (Of course that song) and you reverse it sounds exactly like he says "My shit"!!!!


thats... thats umm thats just sad man... that You really feel the need to waste time with that lament?


Wow.... okay

yeah


go on?

[Jon08]

wow the song changes from minor to major for the most part when played backwards. never saw that coming.

[AMF]

Give it up with the backwards shit already guys!

[blackandwhite]

I live my life in backwards.

[timsim83]

www.myspace.com/noictreflectionelfer

On this site there is a mp3 in the music section of reflection played backwards. it has been there for some time now. Sounds real good too!!!

[bzx]

The melody part to the intro is just reversed, so it sounds the same when the song is played backwards. Thats pretty cool.

yeah it kinda does

check out the violin in the intro in the following times:
Reflection (the original) - 2:07 to 2:13
Reflection (the reverse) - 8:54 to 9:00

sounds very very similar..
as if the violin in the original version is played backwards or mixed backwards with normal..

[elusivEuphoria]

Wow this is pretty cool. I tried this only once before with Third Eye because it sounds pretty clear when played normally that there is some reverse speech in the background toward the end, but when i played it backwards i could make it out at all...

But this is pretty easy to pick out... from 1:48-2:20ish I can definatly hear some clear words. at 2:08 i can hear '...here foolish mortal' but not martyr. And then later at 2:16 i hear '...for more than forty years...'

Too bad i actually have to get some work done now, i think ill "waste" more time with this later.

[ignorantmaddam]

COOL

[elusivEuphoria]

Might i suggest that some portions of this might be in German? Anyone know German reasonably well? I barely got through it in high school :-P But i think im hearing things like Ich and/or Mier for I or mine.

[Goodwin]

Hm. It doesnt sound alike. And many songs will sound the same backwards. The guitar is the only thing that sounds like it does normlaly. But I think Tool meant for this. It is called refelction afterall....

[M.Luther]

i hear hallelujiah like 4 times....the middle of this song in reverse sounds trippy as can be.
but the entire song playing in the correct direction can't be beat by anything.

[M.Luther]

oh yea and the weird al sound on that site...too fucking hilarious its obviously al fucking with people im sure.

[Janos]

It sounds like a complete waste of good bandwidth to me.

[AKTool]

the bass and drums backwards are just sick. very cool

[ladycommish]

I hear after the martyr part - something about sins and if you believe them.?

[unto her a vineyard]

how do i play it backwards?

[ladycommish]

how do i play it backwards?

Click on the link in this thread.

[muhaaa]

Click on the link in this thread.
lol.

----

geez this is breathtaking...

o.O

[unto her a vineyard]

there's a link in this thread?

[unto her a vineyard]

:didnt realize i was posting on the third page:

[jim39n]

check out http://www.reversespeech.com/, specificlly this part http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm, dude basically formulated a theory that our speech when reversed reveals thoughts and emotions from our subconcious.

interesting...although probly complete bullshit

[BlanketEffect]

I reversed it in Sound Recoreder... it's a neat listen, to be sure... the drums are very cool... but in general, listen to it forwards. Much better overall, I think.

[something_Dark]

when I first listen to the song reflection I noticed that there are some unique things in the song that only a studio tech or just a hardcore musicphile would have noticed.
one of them being that Maynard is using a reverse re verb on his voice on the last verse.
I thought nothing of it because Ive worked with reverse re verb in a studio before and I wasn't really that impressed.
but i got to thinking "Reflection in a mirror is the reverse of the image in front of it"
so I recorded the song on my wave file recorder and played it back in reverse.
I noticed that the song in reverse almost sounds identical to the song played normal.
I also got a whole new set of lyrics from that last verse. although alot of it is just a mess but there is a point that you can clearly hear lyrics.
on purpose or just a fluke?

who knows but with these guys you can expect the unexpected.

and as for those lyrics Im not telling what i think they say cuase then some turd/jerk is going to post something rude about it. and Im not up for any asshole comments tonite..

okay? okay.


now i know what it means to be hated

[nathe]

thats fucking awesome...i fucking love the start

i cant hear the foolish mortal bit though

[RedMetalSox]

does anyone have a link that works...none of tem are doing anything for me :(

[one_reflection]

RedMetalSox, if youre running windows, open up your sound recorder. It lives on my desktop now so i dont know where exactly to find it, but just go to your search tool and type in sndrec32. The file needs to be in wav. format, so if youve got a converter convert the trac first, then open sound recorder, go file -> open and open up the wav. file. Then, go to Effects -> reverse (its the last option).

Hope that helps and please excuse me if i sound patronising. I really do appear to be making the assumption that you have no idea how to use a computer. Not my intention.. I just did the whole 'make it as simple as possible just in case'. Hope that works for you.

[RedMetalSox]

thanks, and no you hit it right on...all i know how to do with a computer is turn it on and click the internet ikon...thanks again.

[something_Dark]

and as for those lyrics Im not telling what i think they say cuase then some turd/jerk is going to post something rude about it. and Im not up for any asshole comments tonite..

okay? okay.

LOL!! wow I forgot about how pissed I was when I started this! musta been the booze...

[Lawy]

rofl. i hear "you eat tears, poor monkey", or "hey you here, you're healthy", or "hey you here, emokid" or whatever my brain wants to hear.

[][ncognito]

2:06

"Foolish mortal human. Forgive the savior and believe again. Who'll save you now. Beginning... *don't know yet"

MAYNARD DOES BELIEVE IN GOD! :p

But seriously, that's what it sounds like from 2:06 on. Kinda scary.

[tryptosaur]

Holy shit!
I don't have headphones with me or a way of reversing it when I get home, but you got me thinking.
At my house we've got a nice sized fish tank. I'll have to do it in short intervals---I've never went digging for pearls, so I probably can't hold my breath more than a minute.
I'll get one of my friends to hold me upside down with my head completely submerged in the water while both the standard version and the backward version are pumped at maximum volume through speakers under and all aroud the outside of the tank except for the side my face is facing.
On this side I'll have a mirror positioned to reflect my upside down face as I listen---one minute at a time. I'll have a notepad to the side and a pen of course so I can transcribe everything I hear as I hear it.
Fuck it---I'l even smoke some DMT before going under (and of course whenever I come up for air----actually fuck the air! Just DMT and then back down. And yes, I'll wear goggles.) :O

[something_Dark]

rofl. i hear "you eat tears, poor monkey", or "hey you here, you're healthy", or "hey you here, emokid" or whatever my brain wants to hear.

what's a "emokid"?

[tryptosaur]

My guess is one of those 12year old wannabe gothpunks who listens to Good Charlotte and My Chemical Romance and prides himself on being really cutting edge and into the devil's music.

[something_Dark]

oh okay... so kinda like the 50's "greasers"? But not as cool?

[tryptosaur]

Precicely!

[Toolfrenzy]

[ncognito;1864428']2:06

"Foolish mortal human. Forgive the savior and believe again. Who'll save you now. Beginning... *don't know yet"

MAYNARD DOES BELIEVE IN GOD! :p

But seriously, that's what it sounds like from 2:06 on. Kinda scary.

hah i can totally hear what you a saying here, it may just be because I'm reading along with it. but you can make out the words

edit: now that i listen to it more i hear "....who'll save you in the beginning. It was God who (2 somethings) forgives/forgave for (something) evils."

[Angel on the Sideline]

I'm having a hard time hearing that. What I hear is "so sweet, so familiar" ...

[jevons]

My guess is one of those 12year old wannabe gothpunks who listens to Good Charlotte and My Chemical Romance and prides himself on being really cutting edge and into the devil's music.

i cut emo.

[jevons]

the bass and drums backwards are just sick. very cool

boo.
get off the stage.

[tryptosaur]

What do you mean you cut emo?

[paraflux]

boo.
get off the stage.

unnecessary

[jevons]

unnecessary

sorry.

[something_Dark]

Okay I think ive found something..

For those of you that can access the hosted link easy try to get to this spot::

___l____ just right before the middle. when it slows down in tempo and maynards voice is soft.

someone get a ticker on it!

:D

[ProfoundHaytred]

http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm

Thanks. A lot.

[Eulogy33]

thats fuckin awesome. i THINK i heard the foolish part but..not sure. sounds really cool played backwards though.

[Resolution]

i hear "holy krishna, we must praise" at 2:14-2:18

[something_Dark]

i hear "holy krishna, we must praise" at 2:14-2:18

really? where?

[talibad]

did anyone notice at about 2:05-2:08 he says something like "fear foolish mushroom"? thats the only slightly tangible thing ive found so far

[Gunner101]

I know that this is kind of old but I'm pretty sure that I found something at 1:55 saying "Please trust me I remember all of these things"

[Esurient4Truth]

i hear "holy krishna, we must praise" at 2:14-2:18

I heard that as well.

[something_Dark]

I know that this is kind of old but I'm pretty sure that I found something at 1:55 saying "Please trust me I remember all of these things"

Old but I still check on it from time to time. Got nothing else to do. 1:55 from the beginning of the reverse track or normal play?

[nellyson25]

interesting find!

[Acid0.1]

Maynard sounds odd, but the music is amazingly awesome, and the drums
do indeed make a wicked sound. I cant seem to here the mortal bit tho.
Even though its an interesting idea.

[Hodge]

didn't download or reverse it but
in the normal version i hear a whisper at 3:29, a woman's voice

[emir7]

That's seriously an amazing find. Bravo, man.

It's almost frightening to hear how similar the instrumentals are.

I might just save this to my iTunes library and tag it as Reflection (Reverse). How sick is that? It's just as awesome backward as it is front. Only Tool...


edit -- I just played a bootleg backwards, and the instrumentals sound more in-check than the studio version! mind = blown.

[Pavlov_Dog]

That solo backwards is incredible.

[mrskeenan]

whoa...that just tripped me out, i found myself kind of hypnotized by it about half way through. i can't make any words out though, but maynard sounds like he's singing some indian tribal song or something. that's insane how similiar it sounds instrumentaly, that's freaking awesome...it's like a new tool song for me...thanks

[Esurient4Truth]

mind = blown.

GET YOUR MIND BLOWN
History Channel or Discovery Channel, I f'in forgot

[dmurf]

Wow. I liked it forward for the 'head trippyness' of it all; reverse is a totally different type of falshback!!

[Jicks]

The reason this is sounds so much alike played backwards and forwards is because this song was made using the fibonnacci sequence, (a series of numbers in which the next number is the sum of the previous two) ie this number sequence: 1 1 2 3 5 8. This song uses that formula backwards and forwards ie: 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3 2 1 1, the numbers being the syllables in the way lyrics sung, drums are beat, and guitar is played. Also seen in Lateralus with the lyrics "black, then, white are, all I see, in my in-fan-cy, red and yell-ow then came to be, reach-ing out to me, lets me see 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3.

Said in more detail, with much more itneresting facts here : http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6052

[Resolution]

The reason this is sounds so much alike played backwards and forwards is because this song was made using the fibonnacci sequence, (a series of numbers in which the next number is the sum of the previous two) ie this number sequence: 1 1 2 3 5 8. This song uses that formula backwards and forwards ie: 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3 2 1 1, the numbers being the syllables in the way lyrics sung, drums are beat, and guitar is played. Also seen in Lateralus with the lyrics "black, then, white are, all I see, in my in-fan-cy, red and yell-ow then came to be, reach-ing out to me, lets me see 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3.

Said in more detail, with much more itneresting facts here : http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6052

and the rabbit finally finishes the race...

[SpeiranVaun]

The reason this is sounds so much alike played backwards and forwards is because this song was made using the fibonnacci sequence, (a series of numbers in which the next number is the sum of the previous two) ie this number sequence: 1 1 2 3 5 8. This song uses that formula backwards and forwards ie: 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3 2 1 1, the numbers being the syllables in the way lyrics sung, drums are beat, and guitar is played. Also seen in Lateralus with the lyrics "black, then, white are, all I see, in my in-fan-cy, red and yell-ow then came to be, reach-ing out to me, lets me see 1 1 2 3 5 8 5 3.

Said in more detail, with much more itneresting facts here : http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6052

so thats why the lyrics sounded very similar backwards!

[Within/Without]

yea I always wondered about that reverse re verb thing he used. But I never thought of reversing the song. Good thinking. I'll listen to the version you posted today.

[thomasknight]

So, the vocals to reflection have always struck me as weird. When I first heard it, I thought they were all mashed up, the individual words or phrases were recorded at different times, and then put together roughly. Then I heard about the reversal idea, and it was then that I thought maybe the vocals are recorded in reverse. This is not to difficult to do on a basic level, but obviously a lot of time would have gone into the recording of this song. When I got round to reversing it myself, it was difficult to make out the vocals very clearly because of all the reversed music going on around it. But having reversed some other Tool songs, (Schism, Parabola, Lateralus and H.), the vocals do sound cleaner. So my theory is that some, if not all, the vocals were recorded in reverse.

[Eulogy33]

didn't download or reverse it but
in the normal version i hear a whisper at 3:29, a woman's voice

dont hear the whisper.

[DON IOTAE]

i can't believe i didn't see this coming...

REFLECTION IN REVERSE. duh.

[Tool_Is_Sick]

iota is the fuckin man people.......seriously.

[something_Dark]

That sounds especially cool around 4:51.

OH hell yeah it does!

I've been absent!


Sorry just had to jump back in here real fast. work work and more work is all i seem to do!

yeah that is one of my favorite parts too. I have not listened to the whole thing in a while.


Sweet find man!

[Stenrose]

Some of the words in the first (last part of the original song) actually come out very clearly in reverse, like the original poster says. I hear "foolish" quite clearly and "save" and "live". But I cant really make out any direct meaning for myself. Mayve its just coincidence. Or a very subliminal message. I want to listen to this next time I do shrooms, heh. Its a very interesting idea, sounds great backwards. Like alot said, especially the start... totally chaotic.

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Yeah nice work bro, can't believe it took us ages to figure that one out.
P.S How exactly are you guys reversing this?

[something_Dark]

Yeah nice work bro, can't believe it took us ages to figure that one out.
P.S How exactly are you guys reversing this?

use your windows wav recorder and then play it back in reverse.

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Stuck with a shitty mac, I'll try it out at my mates.
Thanks something_Dark

[Thomas13]

have to agree with just about everything, quite an awesome discovery and I wouldn't ever put it past TOOL to make a song that sounds 'normal' backwards. Really liked this...

[*~*»¤«(Đispositioñ)»¤«*~*]

im guessing windows wav recorder is something that needs to be downloaded? i can't find it anywhere

[merkabah]

Dunno if this is the wav recorder they're talking about but try that:

press the start button -> run... -> type in sndrec32

[*~*»¤«(Đispositioñ)»¤«*~*]

It could work, it has a "Reverse" feature, but im not sure how to get the actual song file to the recorder thing. I'm trying to get it from windows media player but that apparently not working

[Stenrose]

It could work, it has a "Reverse" feature, but im not sure how to get the actual song file to the recorder thing. I'm trying to get it from windows media player but that apparently not working

The windows sound recorder app only reads .waw files.

You need a converter... ill edit and paste a link if I get the time.

[merkabah]

You can also change the soundinput(or output? always muddle them up.) from "microphone" to "stereo mix" so it records what you hear. Then you can record the normal Reflection and after you've recorded it just play it backwards.

[Dr.Styles]

It could work, it has a "Reverse" feature, but im not sure how to get the actual song file to the recorder thing. I'm trying to get it from windows media player but that apparently not working

What you need is Audacity. It can be downloaded for free at:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

[fadastic]

The true trick is to play the reverse song on top of the normal song.

[liecheatsteal]

the more I listen the more
It sounds Like Martal or martyr.


I hear it dude. Sounds like foolish martal or foolish martyr. Very cool though. Good work

[something_Dark]

I hear it dude. Sounds like foolish martal or foolish martyr. Very cool though. Good work

Sweet! I wonder if it was just a random happening or was Maynard using some reverse tracking there?

[something_Dark]

hey Dan, can I change my title for this thread so its not in caps?

when I first found this I reacted with excitement... Guess the all caps title was suppose to show that...

sorry

didn't mean to break the rules...

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Heh, we all get excited sometimes. Gotta admit, it's still an awesome find

[Yast3r]

I don't think this is an awesome find. It's rather nothing, rubbish, garbage. I've got no keen observations when it comes to music and I have always thought of putting this song backwards. Did I do it? No. Why? Because I knew the reward of doing so would not be worthy of the effort.

So big fucking deal you've got some jumbled lyrics and the song sounds sort of similar to it played normally. It's merely a coincidence and if not--it still isn't interesting. I can flip my avatar in photoshop and while it will sort of look alike, it won't be the same. Amazing? No.

This isn't either.

Waste.
Of.
Time.

[Inner_Eulogy]

I don't think this is an awesome find. It's rather nothing, rubbish, garbage. I've got no keen observations when it comes to music and I have always thought of putting this song backwards. Did I do it? No. Why? Because I knew the reward of doing so would not be worthy of the effort.

So big fucking deal you've got some jumbled lyrics and the song sounds sort of similar to it played normally. It's merely a coincidence and if not--it still isn't interesting. I can flip my avatar in photoshop and while it will sort of look alike, it won't be the same. Amazing? No.

This isn't either.

Waste.
Of.
Time.

<snicker>

[Yast3r]

<snicker>

<oh henry>

[Inner_Eulogy]

<oh henry>

um...FAIL


I wasn't referring to the candy bar

[Yast3r]

I know. I just had no response for your reaction to my rant.

[Inner_Eulogy]

I know. I just had no response for your reaction to my rant.

Well apparently you DID.......................












....and it failed

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Heh, imo its awesome
iyo it sucks monkey balls

So what?
I thought we had something special Yas!
Doesn't last night mean anything to you?

[Yast3r]

Heh, imo its awesome
iyo it sucks monkey balls

So what?
I thought we had something special Yas!
Doesn't last night mean anything to you?

We'll always have last night.

[base metal]

Pics











Or it didn't happen.

[Yast3r]

Hey Rivster. I haven't found anything worthy of a post lately so I've been a mute.

[Yast3r]

You missed me. Tee hee. :">

[Yast3r]

What exactly happened? I saw the battles today but never chose to respond to anything.

Catch me up on this 'sitch'.

[Yast3r]

I'm going to miss you Rivek. :( Come back soon.

[Rolo]

I'm going to miss you Rivek. :( Come back soon.

Second probation in a few months time... hmmmm... i dunno... Dan might keep him probed for a while...

[Yast3r]

It's bullshit. Look at what he got probed for.

He just said "Battie you're not fooling me, you're obviously a troll." in a new thread on the socialize board. Battie has so far established that he/she is half retarded and deserves such treatment. I don't see why the prob.

[Rolo]

It's bullshit. Look at what he got probed for.

He just said "Battie you're not fooling me, you're obviously a troll." in a new thread on the socialize board. Battie has so far established that he/she is half retarded and deserves such treatment. I don't see why the prob.

Maybe it was the colorfull entanglement in the other thread which happened when i was asleep last night?

[Yast3r]

That's a spam board, they can't do shit for what happens on there.

[Rolo]

That's a spam board, they can't do shit for what happens on there.

Not even for the:

shitty ass tie fighter

[Yast3r]

Probably not. It is just spam afterall. You can't really be like "HEY DON'T SPAM THESE FORUMS THAT WERE MADE FOR... SPAM!"

[Inner_Eulogy]

That sucks

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Yeah. You can still view posts while probed right?

[Yast3r]

Yeah, you can read a lot lol.

[Master_Of_Nothing]

Heh sweet. i just find the thread where i was talking bout the jetpack. I haven't a clue which one it was in.

[Inner_Eulogy]

Heh sweet. i just find the thread where i was talking bout the jetpack. I haven't a clue which one it was in.

I saw that story already, I read the news online everyday...it didn't look very good if ya' asked me

[Master_Of_Nothing]

I didn't ask you, but yeah why do you think that?

[Rolo]

Heh sweet. i just find the thread where i was talking bout the jetpack. I haven't a clue which one it was in.

** uses "search-mode", types "jetpack" **

Did someone lose a jetpack (http://toolnavy.com/showpost.php?p=2540772&postcount=609) here?

[Inner_Eulogy]

I didn't ask you, but yeah why do you think that?

It just didn't appear very functional, not too mention too large. The real answers to our questions/pursuits in flight is with learning to control magnetism or anti-matter like the UFO's

[Master_Of_Nothing]

It just didn't appear very functional, not too mention too large. The real answers to our questions/pursuits in flight is with learning to control magnetism or anti-matter like the UFO's

Its only a rich kids toy as of now. I imagine he'll refine it further later on. Could make for a interesting body armour (Mjolnir Mark 5 anyone?)

Personally, i don't think anti matter would be viable, magnetism kinda limits us to places with magnetic fields, meaning no space flight. Space flight should be done with either light to kinetic energy converters or gravity machines. Gravity is a near universal force. Light is a definite universal wave/particle. It makes sense in theory, its just the practice that we don't know yet.

[Master_Of_Nothing]

They all get refined. This is the first 'functional' jetpack (i think, correct me if i'm wrong)
so everything from now on should be more refined.

[something_Dark]

I don't think this is an awesome find. It's rather nothing, rubbish, garbage. I've got no keen observations when it comes to music and I have always thought of putting this song backwards. Did I do it? No. Why? Because I knew the reward of doing so would not be worthy of the effort.

So big fucking deal you've got some jumbled lyrics and the song sounds sort of similar to it played normally. It's merely a coincidence and if not--it still isn't interesting. I can flip my avatar in photoshop and while it will sort of look alike, it won't be the same. Amazing? No.

This isn't either.

Waste.
Of.
Time.

well like I always say... "assholes have opinions" wait.. or is it opinions are like assholes?


waste of time?

um..

didn't know it was the worlds job to make your time "worthy".

either way you have succeeded in the art of "dick head" now pat yourself on the back and smoke another joint you dirty Canadian!


wait.. I didn't mean to insult Canadians..


just you...

[Yast3r]

Sounds like somebodies mad that they've wasted their time to me.

[Master_Of_Nothing]

I thought it was well spent.... :(

[Yast3r]

I thought it was well spent.... :(

Sounds like someone trying to justify someone else's wasted time.

[sam905]

well just found this thread, and i was wondering if anyone out there in the tool universe had thought about taking the song playing backward and synching it with the song playing forwards, im not great with computers so if somebody out there can and wants to id love to hear how that sounds and it might reveal something new about the song

[0.618]

Similar stuff can be found from this guy's videos. http://www.youtube.com/user/AleksMCS

I dont think there is anything into it though.


I dont want to upload anything, because of IPR issues, but just download free audacity and you can easily do stuff like that, even in chipmunks.

And reversed mixed with normal ? Well, in some parts it syncs but well.


The plain reversed sounds pretty nice, but i think they used somekind of reversing for guitar sounds and some other effects, thats why reversed version sounds "not-so-mixed-up".