toolband updates: coachella, album mastered

[pornstarchampion]

What do you guys will be on the next toolband update? Its been a few days so I'm figuring they're up to something. I would assume some type of acknowledgement of the various festivals that they are book on, along with some more concrete album info.

[Goldfoot]

"Tool are headlining Coachella on Sunday April 30, 2006. Ticket info will be made available soon"

BMB


And this will be posted the day after it's on the Coachella site and that is all it will say.

[pushin]

I guess now we know:

01 Feb 06

TOOL PERFORMING AT COACHELLA FESTIVAL
Some of you may have heard that TOOL will be headlining the Coachella Festival the last weekend in April. This is now official. I'll have more information about this in the coming days.

[Goldfoot]

I guess now we know:

01 Feb 06

TOOL PERFORMING AT COACHELLA FESTIVAL
Some of you may have heard that TOOL will be headlining the Coachella Festival the last weekend in April. This is now official. I'll have more information about this in the coming days.


What MORE information can he have aside from a time they will be on stage? I guess we'll find out.

[TurdEye13]

According to a new update on Toolband.com by our dear friend Blair.


01 Feb 06
TOOL RECORD MASTERED

Salma stopped dancing on January 29th. The next morning the members of the band flew to Portland, Maine to have the record mastered by Bob Ludwig. This was done on January 31, no doubt followed by a lobster dinner.

BMB

Also................

01 Feb 06
TOOL PERFORMING AT COACHELLA FESTIVAL

Some of you may have heard that TOOL will be headlining the Coachella Festival the last weekend in April. This is now official. I'll have more information about this in the coming days.

BMB



Looks like we are getting close to something huge

[Goldfoot]

Yeah, I knew it wasn't gonna take long at all for it to be mastered. This, coupled with the Coachella announcement should be a definite indication on an April release.

Of course, we really don't know till it's out.:(

[mike09]

Thank goodness for more news on the album. So, it's confirmed that the album is done, finished, mixed, mastered, everything. No more work on the album.

[InertUniformity]

"Looks like we are getting close to something huge"












-Perhaps a new Tool album?-

[Goldfoot]

Thank goodness for more news on the album. So, it's confirmed that the album is done, finished, mixed, mastered, everything. No more work on the album.

Artwork.

[millermt]

What MORE information can he have aside from a time they will be on stage? I guess we'll find out.

Maybe info on winning tix through TA or something?

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

Artwork.

any indications that its done or not?

[InterBeing462]

I live in Maine - right now all these different people are making rumors regarding about Tool being around.

According to a guy who said he saw Maynard walking in downtown Portland, Maynard has an afro, and tried to buy crack.

[MoreTool]

ok now the album is ready, how long t'ill the release?

[Goldfoot]

Maybe info on winning tix through TA or something?
Oh right. I didn't even think of that.:(

any indications that its done or not?

Well, if Adam is working on the video during Mid-February while D,M,and J are on the Promo Tour, the artwork should be done at the latest by then, I would think.

[paraology]

Artwork.
No more wondering when the CD will be complete. I would assume that since the album is completely finished, so is the artwork and packaging. Ill bet the cds are store ready. All thats left now is 2 months or so of the most intense anticipation weve had for this album.

[Nebel]

The artwork has been in progress since Mid-October, so I would think it's done by now.

[millermt]

any indications that its done or not?

I'm hopeful that the artwork portion may be done. When I got an actual e-mail response from Blair back on January 18th, he listed the steps remaining as mixing, mastering and pressing. It seems if the artwork were holding up the process as well, he would have mentioned that as another factor to consider.

[Isac Khrondor]

Nice.

I won't be there, but i'm glad they're gonna be playing to some adoring fans.

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

No more wondering when the CD will be complete. I would assume that since the album is completely finished, so is the artwork and packaging. Ill bet the cds are store ready. All thats left now is 2 months or so of the most intense anticipation weve had for this album.

Is anyone still holding out for March or have we all resigned to April?

[mike tyson]

What does "mastering" an album entitle? I'm guessing its the last stage before artwork and printing?

[Goldfoot]

No more wondering when the CD will be complete. I would assume that since the album is completely finished, so is the artwork and packaging. Ill bet the cds are store ready. All thats left now is 2 months or so of the most intense anticipation weve had for this album.


No, ONE CD is store ready. Maybe.

But mastering I believe is where they prepare all the tracks to fit on the disk and actually create the final version of the album. Set all the track marks and make sure the sound is nice.

[millermt]

What does "mastering" an album entitle? I'm guessing its the last stage before artwork and printing?

It has to do with normalizing the track volumes and fitting the tracks together on the album.

The only step left for the CD itself is now the pressing of all the copies.

So from this point forward it may be possible for someone to leak the music...

[InertUniformity]

Is anyone still holding out for March or have we all resigned to April?



Personally I'm holding out for April and will probably need to resign myself to a May or early June release...I am however, both a pessimist and a douchbag. Can anybody think of anything that could possibly delay a mid to late April release?

[millermt]

Personally I'm holding out for April and will probably need to resign myself to a May or early June release...I am however, both a pessimist and a douchbag. Can anybody think of anything that could possibly delay a mid to late April release?

It has to be an April release at the latest. There's no way they would play Coachella before the album is released!

[Hannibal]

if everyone in the pressing company found jesus

[Goldfoot]

It has to be an April release at the latest. There's no way they would play Coachella before the album is released!

That's my thinking also. Hopefully we're right.

[zenkinet]

Well it sort of makes sense about the mastering being done;
It should be done, especially if they are going to do a promo tour, can you imagine a promotional tour with no content to present? with that said I believe the art is infact done as well or rather will be by mid-feb.

[Goldfoot]

I'm betting on another HDCD. Who want's to bet? I'll bet my sig. I don't use it anyway.

[hanger25934]

even if they do play before it comes out. we will no when its due out by then.

[InertUniformity]

Compared to the Lateralus time frame...when can we expect an official post that gives us an album title and tracklist?

[Goldfoot]

Compared to the Lateralus time frame...when can we expect an official post that gives us an album title and tracklist?

Two weeks ago.

Seriously though, I'm betting in a week or so when they go on the Promo Tour.

[Nebel]

February 6, you heard it here.

[mike09]

Feburary 6th is a good guess. We found out the name and tracklist of Lateralus on Feb. 4th and that was finished being mastered on Jan. 27th. If the new album was finished being mastered on the 29th, then obviously you just add two days to the timeline. Feb. 6th is a good guess. Hopefully, it is correct.

[M*G*N]

The next morning the members of the band flew to Portland, Maine to have the record mastered by Bob Ludwig.
who is that guy btw? can he leak the album?

[pushin]

who is that guy btw? can he leak the album?

I suppose he could... if he never wanted to work in this town again.

[mike tyson]

I was hoping they said Bob Rock.

[Goldfoot]

who is that guy btw? can he leak the album?

That guy won't even give out his EQ settings, he's not gonna leak the album.

By the way, I thought the list for Lateralus was released in January. My bad.

[millermt]

who is that guy btw? can he leak the album?

He can, but probably not if he wants to keep working.

More likely to be leaked from the company pressing.

[Lateral Undertow]

Wow the album is done. No more wondering what the band is doing or figuring out how long a Salma Hayek dance scene is. Now all we have to do is wait for a release date to be announced and then wait for it to come.

[s ti N Kfizt]

the actual record is now fully done somewhere.. amazing.. i hope it's going to be golden.
i'm more excited now, but that's becouse i listened some old 2001 live audio.....wow.

[Wretched]

I will not listen to leaks.

[SuperSteve]

I will.

[zenkinet]

with the album mastered and artwork in progress, I believe in the wake of the promotional tour, the Tool website will soon be overhauled as a promotional device to show international parties.

[SuperSteve]

Oh, and this means new material at Coachella.

Hell yes.

[Ktuluvic]

who is that guy btw? can he leak the album?


He's the guy who's mastered just about every major album you've heard. Just look on most cd's, it's been mastered by Bob Ludwig in Maine.

[zenkinet]

ha! my estimate was right
http://www.toolnavy.com/showpost.php?p=728648&postcount=115

16.6 days from the 15th.

[Away in the sea of red]

There will be 17 tracks on the new album. 6 of them will be segues. 4 of the tracks are all related to each other, two evil versions and two not evil versions. There is also another 3 part song.

[millermt]

ha! my estimate was right
http://www.toolnavy.com/showpost.php?p=728648&postcount=115

16.6 days from the 15th.

But that was supposed to be how long they would be mixing. They only mixed until the 29th -- 14 days.

[Goldfoot]

But that was supposed to be how long they would be mixing. They only mixed until the 29th -- 14 days.

Blair posted the news about the mixing process on the 11th.

And FUCK, I put this in the wrong thread:

11 Jan 06
FROM DUSK ‘TILL DAWN

Those of you who purchased the DVD singles for Schism and/or Parabol(a) will have noticed an orange sticker affixed to the packaging announcing that TOOL would be releasing a new record sometime in the Spring of 2006. From all indications, this is where things still stand – a Spring 2006 release (although, despite what you might have read on other sites, it won’t be in March). In fact, in talking with the guys the other day, we calculated that Salma will probably do her little nightclub snake-dance at least three thousand more times as they put the finishing touches on the mixing of the new recording (segues, voice overs, effects, etc.).

And then some of the people here tried this on their own.....

oh i just tried calculating the amount of days that Tool will remain to finish the album, with the Salma Hayek dance scene, its approximately 16 days.

12(hours) x 60(minutes) = 720(minutes in a work day)
720 ÷ 4(minutes[length of dance]) = 180(dances per day)
3000(estimated amount of dances left) ÷ 180(dances per day) = 16.6 days?
hmmm that can't be right can it?

If you don't count any Sunday except the 29th, it took 16 days to finish since Blair said that they worked on it 6 days a week.

He gave us a bunch of shit that was right. Wow.

[zenkinet]

ha! my estimate was right
http://www.toolnavy.com/showpost.php?p=728648&postcount=115

16.6 days from the 15th.
emphasis on estimate, i was close, thats all.

[Goldfoot]

emphasis on estimate, i was close, thats all.

Read my post. You were right.

[millermt]

Read my post. You were right.

Yep, my apologies Zenkinet. You pretty much nailed it!

[M*G*N]

He's the guy who's mastered just about every major album you've heard. Just look on most cd's, it's been mastered by Bob Ludwig in Maine.

thats why there are so much leaks in music industry hehehe

[zenkinet]

its ok ^.^, no prob
BMB can never really be trusted

[zenkinet]

There will be 17 tracks on the new album. 6 of them will be segues. 4 of the tracks are all related to each other, two evil versions and two not evil versions. There is also another 3 part song.
and how do u know this?

[Goldfoot]

He's the guy who's mastered just about every major album you've heard. Just look on most cd's, it's been mastered by Bob Ludwig in Maine.

None of the NIN major releases were mastered by him. I didn't check the EPs aside from Broken.

Tom Baker did it for NIN, and Orgy.

The first one I've found so far is Nirvana - In Utero.

Edit: Howie Weinburg is coming up more than Bob Ludwig also.

[Away in the sea of red]

and how do u know this?


Read the January Newsletter and you will work it out.....It's quite simple really, there is more to be found in the same area but I can't quite figure it out

[Goldfoot]

Read the January Newsletter and you will work it out.....It's quite simple really, there is more to be found in the same area but I can't quite figure it out

I don't know where you got any of that out of the newsletter.

[Bogart]

It's kind of hard to believe that the album is almost out..

[paraology]

There will be 17 tracks on the new album. 6 of them will be segues. 4 of the tracks are all related to each other, two evil versions and two not evil versions. There is also another 3 part song.
Is this bullshit or do you really think you have this figured out? You should email this to Blair and try to get a hint out of him as to whether this is correct. However, by the time he responds, we may already know the answer.

[mike09]

Read the January Newsletter and you will work it out.....It's quite simple really, there is more to be found in the same area but I can't quite figure it out

Explain.

[Spongebob]

SURELY tool will release the album before they play play live.

in this case, the album will be out before april 30th.

agreed?

[Christoff]

Have a look at the 15 minutes section if you are looking for more numbers to interpret... It is the first new picture in there for months.

[kyyuulle]

Bob Ludwig has probably signed one of those confidentiality contracts and I highly doubt, let's put it this way, I can guarantee that he won't be the one to leak the new album.

[kyyuulle]

Have a look at the 15 minutes section if you are looking for more numbers to interpret... It is the first new picture in there for months.
that's hilarious, but the only thing i can come up with is 3/29 (march 29th) and it IS on a wednesday this year.

[clone]

None of the NIN major releases were mastered by him. I didn't check the EPs aside from Broken.

Tom Baker did it for NIN, and Orgy.

The first one I've found so far is Nirvana - In Utero.

Edit: Howie Weinburg is coming up more than Bob Ludwig also.



are 24 pages (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE4781AD948AB7420C2913064C1BB67FF08D74F B48D112D5653D0BA234B841977FD0EBAD8D2B3FA75B235AAF5 2DA4500AD0DA8E2B&uid=CAW030602011730&sql=11:5gd9kect7q70~T4) enough for you?

[flipmojo]

This is all very exciting news! A new Tool album is coming in only a matter of a couple months. We have waited an eternity for this time to finally arrive!

[Nebel]

I'm getting emotional *cries* It's so close...

[Nemesis]

Bob Ludwig has probably signed one of those confidentiality contracts and I highly doubt, let's put it this way, I can guarantee that he won't be the one to leak the new album.

Yeah thats right, and I don't think Bob Ludwig would still have a job if he kept leaking peoples albums onto the internet.

[insaner]

wow. now see much bullshit worrying you couldve not gone through if youd been logical about this from the get go. i tried my best to explain it, but youre such assrockets that you simply had to believe it was coming out earlier.

the mastering by bob in maine, etc. all easy to know if you just fucking THINK.

so, who else is going to coachella?

[Underalus]

I am giddy. It exists somewhere in completion, ready to be heard. I think I'm going to cave and hear the leak, and I am preemptively ashamed of it.

[zenkinet]

Bob Ludwig mastered Lateralus as well.

Lateralus, Tool
Volcano Entertainment II, LLC
Recording Engineer: David Bottrill
Mixing Engineer: David Bottrill
Producer: Tool, David Bottrill
Recording Studios: Cello Studios, Hollywood, CA; The Hook, Big Empty Space, The Lodge and Larrabee Sound North, North Hollywood, CA
Mastering Engineer: Bob Ludwig
Mastering Facility: Gateway Mastering & DVD, Portland, ME

[Johnny Truant]

Have a look at the 15 minutes section if you are looking for more numbers to interpret... It is the first new picture in there for months.
Is that Adam's high school?

[pryingopenmy3rdeye]

Is that Adam's high school?

No, i believe that is one of those places for war veterans.

[Elgyn]

with the album mastered and artwork in progress, I believe in the wake of the promotional tour, the Tool website will soon be overhauled as a promotional device to show international parties.
That'll be good to see what Josh Davis can come up with. He's pretty good at what he does.

[moneyisevil]

this is the best news in a while!!! happy happy joy joy

[dracomordag]

fuck yes

[flipmojo]

wow. now see much bullshit worrying you couldve not gone through if youd been logical about this from the get go. i tried my best to explain it, but youre such assrockets that you simply had to believe it was coming out earlier.

Hmm... it seems like you're the assrocket who is unable to freely express their hopes regardless of whether or not there is a letdown. Basically, who cares if you get your hopes up and things don't work out the way you thought? I guess only insaner does. Anyway...

[Renholder]

fuck yes
I'm almost sad it's almost here. The neverending wait had a romantic side to it.
All in all, can't wait to listen to their new album. I just hope they don't pull an emotive.

[Goldfoot]

are 24 pages (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE4781AD948AB7420C2913064C1BB67FF08D74F B48D112D5653D0BA234B841977FD0EBAD8D2B3FA75B235AAF5 2DA4500AD0DA8E2B&uid=CAW030602011730&sql=11:5gd9kect7q70~T4) enough for you?

Ok, Ktuluvic definitely said that Ludwig mastered most of the major release CDs [I've] heard, so naturally I would look on the CDs I own. Considering the majority of the CDs I own WEREN'T mastered by him, 24 pages doesn't mean shit to me. Ktuluvic basically said Bob Ludwig was THE goto guy for master, when clearly he isn't.

[Ktuluvic]

Well he's pretty much the big name in mastering, per the link clone gave, he's got a pretty large body of work. But there are other people who do mastering and some bands choose to do their own. I was just trying to give you an idea of who he was.

Side note: You know what all this means right....only 2 months before we start the 5 year wait again....I'm super stoked.

[Goldfoot]

Side note: You know what all this means right....only 2 months before we start the 5 year wait again....I'm super stoked.

I really wasn't anxious for the new record until Maynard joined them at the end of 2004.

[Ktuluvic]

Well aren't you just special, You win an internet cookie.

I've been excited about the new album for a while, but I've got no problems waiting for it like a lot here seem to have. It comes out when it comes out, although the wait for the album has a certain kinda charm to it thanks to tdn.

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

this is the best news in a while!!! happy happy joy joy

they are doing a cover of happy happy joy joy?

[Goldfoot]

Well aren't you just special, You win an internet cookie.

I've been excited about the new album for a while, but I've got no problems waiting for it like a lot here seem to have. It comes out when it comes out, although the wait for the album has a certain kinda charm to it thanks to tdn.

*stamps foot while holding out hand*

[Cid]

Side note: You know what all this means right....only 2 months before we start the 5 year wait again....I'm super stoked.


hahaha...you think they're going to make another album?!?!?

[paraology]

hahaha...you think they're going to make another album?!?!?
They will make one more album..It will be a double album box set that will end the Tool saga forever.

[Ktuluvic]

*stamps foot while holding out hand*

Not with that attitude mister, now what do we say?


And cid....let me dream alright man, please? I've got nothing else to live for.

[insaner]

Hmm... it seems like you're the assrocket who is unable to freely express their hopes regardless of whether or not there is a letdown. Basically, who cares if you get your hopes up and things don't work out the way you thought? I guess only insaner does. Anyway...


my hopes?

thats rediculous, i hope like hell to hear the new record. i just dont let hope override any logic i may possess. guess thats why im not a xtian.

[Cid]

Not with that attitude mister, now what do we say?


And cid....let me dream alright man, please? I've got nothing else to live for.

alright man, as long as you realize it's a dream...

i'd love to dream that too, but i feel like we're all lucky to even be witnessing this release, nevermind another one. i really hope they make albums until they can't anymore, but i don't see it happening.

[Away in the sea of red]

I don't know where you got any of that out of the newsletter.

OK. Well this bit here is what I think may hold some clues, hey I could be completely and utterly wrong, who knows.

But just to give the casual reader an idea of the basic hierarchy of these Four Great Watch-Towers, in working with the Tablet of Water we invoke "spiritual creatures" like HCOMA, the spirit (quintessence) of water whose name is found in the Tablet of Union also called the Black Cross. Then there are the three Holy Names ruling water: MPH ARSL GAIOL, and its Elemental King whose name, RAAGIOSL, is derived by extracting the letters formed by a clockwork whorl around the center of the Great Central Cross (of the subangle). There are the six Seniors with their planetary associations (here omitted): LAOAXRP, LSRAHPM, SOAIXNT, SAIINOV, SLGAIOL and LIGDISA and, more for our purposes, the divine names ruling sub-elements of the Calvary Cross of Earth of Water: MALADI, OCAAD (of course, there are also demonic names ruling sub-elements of Earth of Water: IDALAM, DAALO). Then there is the Kerubic Angel MAGL and the "God" that governs it once the name is prefixed (with other letters also being rearranged) by a somewhat familiar process involving Enochian permutations. And finally, the Elemental to be evoked for the Working that is drawn from one of the remaining 16 squares beneath the arms of the Calvary Cross in the subangle attributed to Earth of Water in the Elemental Tablet.

First of all he says "the casual reader". My arse this is for the 'casual' reader. If it was for the casual reader I'm pretty sure I might at least be able to understand something of what BMB is talking about. I think the six seniors with their planetary assocciations perhaps means the six segues. Then he talks of divine names for elements and demonic names for the same elements, perhaps two songs with evil sides and lighter sides. Then the three Holy names ruling water, perhaps another 3 part track. I don't know bout the rest, haven't put a massive amount of thought into it. Maybe you can see where I am coming from, with each name listed being a track. And maybe you can't see where I'm coming from at all, in whicheva case I am done. Thankyou

And praise BLAIR!!!!

[gerbil]

If A Perfect Circle is laid to rest (which is possible) then I think we'll see another Tool albu, maybe with a quick break for Puscifer and the other band members' side projects.

[Goldfoot]

If A Perfect Circle is laid to rest (which is possible) then I think we'll see another Tool albu, maybe with a quick break for Puscifer and the other band members' side projects.

Since Billy started singing on eMOTIVe, maybe he will sing on the next A P C album, and then they wouldn't need Maynard..........

Perhaps.

[D-Day_Daddy]

No, i believe that is one of those places for war veterans.


You are right, it's also where older folks go to play bingo and dance. What I can't figure out is who thinks this picture is new? This was up before I saw the picture of the people in creepy face make-up. There's no clue in that picture my friends.

[gerbil]

Since Billy started singing on eMOTIVe, maybe he will sing on the next A P C album, and then they wouldn't need Maynard..........

Perhaps.

Hopefully Billy will do his solo project and we'll see how that turns out.

[mike09]

OK. Well this bit here is what I think may hold some clues, hey I could be completely and utterly wrong, who knows.

But just to give the casual reader an idea of the basic hierarchy of these Four Great Watch-Towers, in working with the Tablet of Water we invoke "spiritual creatures" like HCOMA, the spirit (quintessence) of water whose name is found in the Tablet of Union also called the Black Cross. Then there are the three Holy Names ruling water: MPH ARSL GAIOL, and its Elemental King whose name, RAAGIOSL, is derived by extracting the letters formed by a clockwork whorl around the center of the Great Central Cross (of the subangle). There are the six Seniors with their planetary associations (here omitted): LAOAXRP, LSRAHPM, SOAIXNT, SAIINOV, SLGAIOL and LIGDISA and, more for our purposes, the divine names ruling sub-elements of the Calvary Cross of Earth of Water: MALADI, OCAAD (of course, there are also demonic names ruling sub-elements of Earth of Water: IDALAM, DAALO). Then there is the Kerubic Angel MAGL and the "God" that governs it once the name is prefixed (with other letters also being rearranged) by a somewhat familiar process involving Enochian permutations. And finally, the Elemental to be evoked for the Working that is drawn from one of the remaining 16 squares beneath the arms of the Calvary Cross in the subangle attributed to Earth of Water in the Elemental Tablet.

First of all he says "the casual reader". My arse this is for the 'casual' reader. If it was for the casual reader I'm pretty sure I might at least be able to understand something of what BMB is talking about. I think the six seniors with their planetary assocciations perhaps means the six segues. Then he talks of divine names for elements and demonic names for the same elements, perhaps two songs with evil sides and lighter sides. Then the three Holy names ruling water, perhaps another 3 part track. I don't know bout the rest, haven't put a massive amount of thought into it. Maybe you can see where I am coming from, with each name listed being a track. And maybe you can't see where I'm coming from at all, in whicheva case I am done. Thankyou

And praise BLAIR!!!!

That's pretty interesting. Let me reread this newsletter...

[MentalSanityOff]

I have a feeling this will be Tool's final album

[dracomordag]

I have a feeling this will be Tool's final album

and I have a feeling that you're entirely wrong.

[millermt]

Why don't we just worry about the forthcoming album for now.

[zenkinet]

Tool did go far out of their way to get the album mastered, they must be the best, or rather best trusted for the process of mastering, California to Maine, that is quite a journey.

[Isac Khrondor]

It's kind of strange how quick this has all happend.

[Nebel]

It's kind of strange how quick this has all happend.

Yeah seriously, Tool are pretty quick releasing their stuff, thank God for that!

[zenkinet]

It's kind of strange how quick this has all happend.
well mastering doesn't take that long, 5-6 days for a double album, 2 or so for a single disc album, maybe even shorter with all the tweaking Tool and Bob put into it.

[Goldfoot]

well mastering doesn't take that long, 5-6 days for a double album, 2 or so for a single disc album, maybe even shorter with all the tweaking Tool and Bob put into it.

It says on the site it only takes like 8 hours.

[vic1torious]

i go to school in Portland and I wish I knew tool was going to be here because I would have gone to gateway to give Maynard a hard time. No..fuck that shit. But my roommate knows Adam Ayan, Ludwigs apprentice, because he took a class about music technology with him.

[zenkinet]

It says on the site it only takes like 8 hours. i was taking account the travel time.

[Goldfoot]

i was taking account the travel time.

Ohm well Blair said it was mastered on January 31st. He only mentioned one day.

[zenkinet]

Ohm well Blair said it was mastered on January 31st. He only mentioned one day.
yes thats true :)

[Goldfoot]

yes thats true :)

Damnit. Stupid m.

[Away in the sea of red]

That's pretty interesting. Let me reread this newsletter...


Yeah it is very interesting, anyone else think about what I said? I couldn't work out the bi8t about rearringing the letters using enochian permutations and a prefix anyone want to maybe help shed some light?

[mike09]

Yeah it is very interesting, anyone else think about what I said? I couldn't work out the bi8t about rearringing the letters using enochian permutations and a prefix anyone want to maybe help shed some light?

I couldn't really figure it out either. I know what you're getting at, though. When I reread the newsletter, it seemed like Blair was referring to song titles with all those strange words.

[InertUniformity]

Blair mentions something about a lobster dinner...could this be info about the new album? Shit I cant believe we didnt pick up on this hint

[kyyuulle]

no, lobster is like a staple in Maine, haven't you ever heard of lobsters found of the coast of Maine?

Being from Boston, I thought maybe you would have known that

[InertUniformity]

no, lobster is like a staple in Maine, haven't you ever heard of lobsters found of the coast of Maine?

Being from Boston, I thought maybe you would have known that



yes i love maine lobster (hardshell only!) I was just being a wise ass

[SpiralOutKeepGoing]

Blair mentions something about a lobster dinner...could this be info about the new album? Shit I cant believe we didnt pick up on this hint

Maybe the cd will look like a lobster?

[Nemesis]

Maybe the cd will look like a lobster?

Or maybe you have to boil the CD till it turns deep red, then play it.

[D-Day_Daddy]

I grew up in Maine, now I live an hour from Portland. What makes me mad is this time last year I worked at a natural foods store called Wild Oats right in Portland. I bet the band is all into the organic shit, and got lunch from the salad bar I tended. I'd be like "No Goddess Dressing for you until I get some info!" Now I work for McDonalds, and I'm sure Tool doesn't give a rats ass about the dollor menu.

[Ktuluvic]

Ummm....thanks for that....for future reference, please keep your fuckwit posts to yourself.

[thejesus]

Can someone knowledgeable on the subject explain what exactly is involved in the Mastering process?

I went to website of the place that mastered Tool's new record, and they describe Mastering as "the final step in the creative process where final sound judgements are made"

But on Blair's most recent newsletter, he mentions that the guys were still tweaking the mixes and levels of some of the tracks the day before they were supposed to leave for Maine to have the record Mastered...

So my question is, exactly what kind of 'sound judgements' are they able to make at the Mastering studio that they can't do at the recording studio that requres them to fly to the other side of the country to have the record Mastered?

[dracomordag]

Bands will master the record to the extent they can before they go to the Mastering studio so that they have a very clear idea of what they want before they get there, and so it takes as little time as possible. The mastering studio will apply compressors, leveling, some other effects maybe... then put all the seperate tracks together (as in tracks making up one song, not tracks making up a CD) to one final mix, then send those to a printing place to be mass produced.

[thejesus]

Bands will master the record to the extent they can before they go to the Mastering studio so that they have a very clear idea of what they want before they get there, and so it takes as little time as possible. The mastering studio will apply compressors, leveling, some other effects maybe... then put all the seperate tracks together (as in tracks making up one song, not tracks making up a CD) to one final mix, then send those to a printing place to be mass produced.

Hmmm...I see

The website also said that a typical mastering session takes approximatley 8 hours. If they are applying compressors and other effects to the mix, 8 hours to me just doesn't seem long enough...or maybe it's long enough for the typical rock band with less complex song arrangments...maybe Tool's stuff takes them longer...I don't know

[dracomordag]

to apply a compressor, you set your levels and hit "compress"

it takes a while to figure out what you want to do, but Tool likely did a lot of this thought process already, not to mention that the Mastering guy is probably experienced enough to know just what the song needs very quickly.

[insaner]

Hmm... it seems like you're the assrocket who is unable to freely express their hopes regardless of whether or not there is a letdown. Basically, who cares if you get your hopes up and things don't work out the way you thought? I guess only insaner does. Anyway...


actually that isnt what bothers me. all im saying is dont just make up shit without any evidence. a small amount of thinking lets you filter out the total bullshit.


believe me, my hopes are as high as anyones, and im fiendin' for any little tidbit just like everyone else.