Message from Adam

[Perseensilmä]

So, I sent him a message (via myspace) and I bitched about the information blackout and asked if he could give me at least some kind of information about the cd and dvd.It took a couple of weeks, but after that he sent me a reply. I don't know, it seems like he is tring to fuck with me and Ijust have to wait for the release like everyonr else but I thought this is kinda puzzling so I want to know what you think of this.

His reply:



There will be an announcement. I can't tell you that much. Meanwhile, think about this:

2, 23, 235, 2357, 235711

"Among their other accomplishments, the ancient Mayas invented a calendar of remarkable accuracy and complexity. At right is the ancient Mayan Pyramid Chichen Itza, Yucatan, Mexico. The Pyramid of Kukulkan at Chichén Itzá, constructed circa 1050 was built during the late Mayan period, when Toltecs from Tula became politically powerful. The pyramid was used as a calendar: four stairways, each with 91 steps and a platform at the top, making a total of 365, equivalent to the number of days in a calendar year. "

1, 13, 135, 1357, 13579

"In Neo-platonism "mysticism" came to be associated with secrecy of any kind."

1, 18, 1827, 182764

"Top row, second one from the left. Elvis, Hitler and Jesus didn't make it though. Looks like their hearts weren't that lonely."

2, 24, 246, 2468, 246810

Adam

I think this is total bullahit.

[placidium]

yeah because
adam types like
this

adam

[lachrymotion]

yeah because
adam types like
this

adam
yep.
Unless
he
did
a
copy
and
paste
job

[Perseensilmä]

or maybe
it wasn't adam
blair?

[clone]

well, in the last part he's refering to aleister crowley, but i don't know what does it has to do with anything

[Perseensilmä]

aleister crowley?wtf?

[Chaos Theory]

The band and all the people around them are probably just sitting in front of Adam's computer, making shit up and laughing their asses off. I'd be willing to bet the album's been done since 2004.

[MikeBalzary]

I
am
con-
fused
.


...but i did work out the numbers and it came out to an april 17th release date. so i guess we can all stop wondering.

[Isac Khrondor]

Adam blocked me on MySpace because of angry emails I sent him, the bastard.

Is he dyslexic or something?

He
types a
bit
like this

a d a m

And spells really simple words wrong a lot of the time.

[clone]

aleister crowley?wtf?

On the cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (from which Elvis, Hitler and Jesus were painted out by request of the record company), the second face from the left of the top row is Mr. Crowley

[MikeBalzary]

Adam blocked me on MySpace because of angry emails I sent him, the bastard.

Is he dyslexic or something?

He
types a
bit
like this

a d a m

And spells really simple words wrong a lot of the time.

why would u send "angry" emails to adam? that seems pretty fucking stupid.

[Chaos Theory]

why would u send "angry" emails to adam? that seems pretty fucking stupid.
I know... Adam is the second most nonthreatening rock musician alive...

The first being Corgan.

[bluefire]

Thats interesting that adam references the mayans because in their number system a dot represented the number 1 and a bar represented the number 5. Maybe it has something to do with that thing we though was morse code from a couple of months back.

[Isac Khrondor]

why would u send "angry" emails to adam? that seems pretty fucking stupid.

Yeah I know, I regret it now because i'm blocked of course.. but it was cool that he at least replied to say..

your an idiot

truley

adam

[clone]

Thats interesting that adam references the mayans because in their number system a dot represented the number 1 and a bar represented the number 5. Maybe it has something to do with that thing we though was morse code from a couple of months back.

11151155155? nah, i'm more of the theory that he's just fucking with us.

[Unl1v3d]

Or maybe...

By analising the series you get this:

The first one, the terms are getted by the last number plus 2, the first number. In the last one (11), he haded 4.So if we continued the following number would be 23571115.
Let us mesmorize 15.

The second one is easy, the last number is aquired but addind the last number with the first number (1) plus 1. The following number would 1357911.
Mesmorize 11.

Maybe this is the date for the DVD, 15/11/05.The year comes if you add the 4 of the first serie with the 1 of the last one.

The third serie is trick, i'm not sure with, all this thinking id being made instantly, so i'm not kinda thinking a lot about that.

The last one is also a easy one, it's the pairs serie: 2 4 6 8 10 12.
Maybe 12 will be the month of the CD, the day is said in the 3º serie.

The text is crap.

Agree, or i'm going to deep?

[MikeBalzary]

The text is crap.

Agree, or i'm going to deep?


The text is crap and ure going too deep.

[Unl1v3d]

Yeah, maybe.
But if it was on 15/11 i would feel very good lol.

[johnnyTrip]

he is trying to tell us the world is ending

[Foamy]

Try sending an email to whoever made that website and asking what they can make of what Adam said.

[clone]

OMG!!1!!!11 the new album will be released on 23 December AD 2012

[LetTheRabbitsWearGlasses]

.

[clarity.]

^OMG DID YU SAY ANYTHING?!?

[ATARI]

.
.

[ATARI]

i see what i did there

[muloc]

its about the end of the world and personal development... and ball swinging.

[Tertius Oculum]

December 12th, 2012.

End of world.

[Carny_Handles]

.


....

[InertUniformity]

11/19!!!

[kyyuulle]

aleister crowley?wtf?
he's talking about Crowley being on The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers album cover.

he's in the schlew of people somewhere on there

i dunno what that might reveal about the new album though

[death_2_usa]

Thats the second reference to that album (Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club) the other ones in one of the newsletters...

[Ktuluvic]

Maybe the deleted double heart turkey tale is some kind of reference to that album as well. Two hearts....so they're not loney? Play on words?

[mattw]

If the idea is to find the next number in the four sequences, I think you get 13, 11, 125 (or 5 cubed) and 12. Let me explain:

The first sequence is 2, 23, 235, 2357, 235711.

These are the prime numbers next to each other i.e. 2 then 3 then 5 then 7 then 11. The next prime number is 13. So the first sequence would be 2, 23, 235, 2357, 235711, 23571113 etc.

So the first number is 13.

The second sequence is 1, 13, 135, 1357, 13579.

This is just the odd numbers next to each other so the next number in the sequence would be 1357911.

So the second number is 11.

The third sequence is 1, 18, 1827, 182764.

This is harder to explain but it is the cubes next to each other ie 1-cubed then 2-cubed (=8) then 3-cubed (=27) then 4-cubed (=64) all next to each other as in 1 then 18 then 1827 then 182764 so you get 1, 18, 1827, 182764. The next cubed number is 5-cubed (=125) so the sequence would be 1, 18, 1827, 182764, 182764125 etc.

So the third number is 125, or 5 cubed.

The fourth sequence is 2, 24, 246, 2468, 246810.

So the next even number is 12.

So the fourth number is 12.

Overall from the four sequences, you get:

13
11
125 (=5 cubed)
12

Maybe this represents 13/11/05 or something? Interpret it however you like. That's just what i get from looking at the numbers etc.

Hope this helped...

[Winter]

the next album will be heavily influenced by the tv series "lost".

[mattw]

Sorry, I forgot to mention in my post above about the numbers etc. that i've written the date 13/11/05 as to mean November 13th, 2005. Sorry if confused anyone - it's just that Australians usually put the day first, then month, then year.

As for the 12, I don't know what this means exactly. If you received the info from Adam on November 1st, it could mean that you have to wait 12 more days etc.

Again, interpret it how you want...

[wix3l]

Where is this posted on his myspace?

[death_2_usa]

Ok, I think ive figured something out... Sgt. Peppers lonely hearts club was released on the 1st of june 1967... Perhaps the new Tool album will be out on the 1st of june next year... Its on a thursday though... I really dont wanna wait that long.

[edit] Wikipedia: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is an album by the British band The Beatles. It is often cited as the most influential rock album of all time by prominent critics and publications, including Rolling Stone and is among the albums that have been considered the greatest ever. It was recorded by The Beatles over a 129-day period beginning on December 6, 1966. The album was released on June 1, 1967 in the United Kingdom and on June 2, 1967 in the United States.

Perhaps the 129 day recording period could be a hint also

[ARMZ]

Albums get released everyday of the year, fuck the Tuesday bullshit.

In January 2001, the rumor mill surrounding the band gained new life when Tool announced their new album, Systema Encéphale. Only one month later, they revealed that it was actually titled Lateralus and that Systema had been a ruse, much to the dismay of music magazines and commercial websites who had committed headlong to the fake title.

So it was announced in Jan, confirmed by Feb and released in May. That's 5 months, so if Tool were to announce anything it will still be a long wait, unless they have planned for a shorter announcement to release day.

[Mooseifer]

you are all idiots....

shut up

[ARMZ]

and you're Irish.....nuff said

[Mooseifer]

and you're Irish.....nuff said

good comeback

must write that one down

[clone]

the second quote from adam is taken from the mysticism definition of the mystica encyclopedia (http://www.themystica.org/mystica/articles/m/mysticism.html), written by alan g. hefner. i would research more on this page, but i'ts blocked on my work's computer.

[/V\agina]

will someone please teach Unl1v3d some damn english?


Sorry to be a dick about it, but that post, although insightful, was a pain in the ass to read.

I think you guys are reading a little to much into this.

1521

[clone]

so, we got the mayan calendar, mysticism, and aleister crowley. anyone wants to play some google?

[Unl1v3d]

Sorry about my english, i'm portuguese, please forgive any mistakes i make.You are not being a dick, what's the point about having a opinion and not be able to share it?

[s ti N Kfizt]

Yeah I know, I regret it now because i'm blocked of course.. but it was cool that he at least replied to say..

your an idiot

truley

adam
awesome

you are all idiots....

shut up
I hate this thread.

Sorry about my english, i'm portuguese, please forgive any mistakes i make.You are not being a dick, what's the point about having a opinion and not be able to share it?
:)

[moneyisevil]

Albums get released everyday of the year, fuck the Tuesday bullshit.

In January 2001, the rumor mill surrounding the band gained new life when Tool announced their new album, Systema Encéphale. Only one month later, they revealed that it was actually titled Lateralus and that Systema had been a ruse, much to the dismay of music magazines and commercial websites who had committed headlong to the fake title.

So it was announced in Jan, confirmed by Feb and released in May. That's 5 months, so if Tool were to announce anything it will still be a long wait, unless they have planned for a shorter announcement to release day.


finally someone dug up this info...i dont wanna believe it will take another 5 months but it looks like its going to...still no news whatso ever....fuck fuck fuck....but im guessing that DC aint gonna fulfill what he says when he said the album is gonn abe out in feb...doesnt look like it

[lachrymotion]

finally someone dug up this info...i dont wanna believe it will take another 5 months but it looks like its going to...still no news whatso ever....fuck fuck fuck....but im guessing that DC aint gonna fulfill what he says when he said the album is gonn abe out in feb...doesnt look like it
wasn't that Feb '04 he was refering to?

[MasterOfKtulu109]

Albums get released everyday of the year, fuck the Tuesday bullshit.

In January 2001, the rumor mill surrounding the band gained new life when Tool announced their new album, Systema Encéphale. Only one month later, they revealed that it was actually titled Lateralus and that Systema had been a ruse, much to the dismay of music magazines and commercial websites who had committed headlong to the fake title.

So it was announced in Jan, confirmed by Feb and released in May. That's 5 months, so if Tool were to announce anything it will still be a long wait, unless they have planned for a shorter announcement to release day.

Blair has said they are doing this album in even more secrecy than usual (which means they probably won't announce 5 months early again). If you want my honest opinion, I bet we won't know the album title/tracks/info until maybe 6 weeks before its release.

Also, Danny said it will be out early in 2006. I don't see June being 'early'. I'm guessing it will be out in January/February.

Most bands wouldn't record an album in early fall of one year and then wait almost another year to release it. If you do that these days, you are just asking for someone to get a hold of it and throw it on the internet 2 months early.

I'm guessing we will know the info by the end of the year, with a release in February.

[exojjl]

Sorry, I forgot to mention in my post above about the numbers etc. that i've written the date 13/11/05 as to mean November 13th, 2005. Sorry if confused anyone - it's just that Australians usually put the day first, then month, then year.

As for the 12, I don't know what this means exactly. If you received the info from Adam on November 1st, it could mean that you have to wait 12 more days etc.

Again, interpret it how you want...

or think about it this way, 13/11/05 being January 13th, 2006
since december would be the 12th, january being after the 12th.

[MentalSanityOff]

21st
oh good, hannukahs still on

oh yeah, and the album will include:

More alien shit.

[Bogart]

the album will pry be out in jan

[Hubbard]

he is trying to tell us the world is ending

1996.

[waffel]

Albums get released everyday of the year, fuck the Tuesday bullshit.

In January 2001, the rumor mill surrounding the band gained new life when Tool announced their new album, Systema Encéphale. Only one month later, they revealed that it was actually titled Lateralus and that Systema had been a ruse, much to the dismay of music magazines and commercial websites who had committed headlong to the fake title.

So it was announced in Jan, confirmed by Feb and released in May. That's 5 months, so if Tool were to announce anything it will still be a long wait, unless they have planned for a shorter announcement to release day.

Holy shit finally someone posts something that HELPS.

[johnnyTrip]

1996.

can you elaborate?

[ARMZ]

I hope so too that it's not as long of a wait than Lateralus was, the 5 months that is, between an official announcement to release day. I hope it's way shorter but how ever long it is I'm sure it will be worth it. A new album and also a DVD(which I believe the DVD will be fucking incredible, amazing and magical) how much more can we ask for? oh and a tour of course.

[fraz]

Just posting this here because it's about Adam. Forgive me if this has already been discussed but Adam's myspace page has a cool Tool logo animation thingy on the left hand side where the lateralus eye moves with your mouse and the smokebox comes up when you move the eye over a part of the black area.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20913840&Mytoken=20050819152334

Neat !

[Isac Khrondor]

And if you scroll it down the middle the smoke box from Aenima appears aswell.

[gerbil]

And if you scroll it down the middle the smoke box from Aenima appears aswell.

Hmm. I wonder if that has anything to do with the new site.

[Perseensilmä]

No

[gerbil]

No

No, of course not. Especially not since we know that a lot of it is being done in Flash with innovative techniques.

And, ya know, no one ever does test shots in Flash.

[Chaos Theory]

I've gotta say, I like the interactive art on the toolband official site right now.

I hope the Tool logo on it now is the one for this album's cycle. It looks like a razorblade which we shall use to cut the wrists of emo morons.

[clone]

I hope the Tool logo on it now is the one for this album's cycle. It looks like a razorblade which we shall use to cut the wrists of emo morons.

wait a minute...a razorblade...the new 'turn off your television' t shirt....
i got it!!...the new album will be called.....



TELEINCISION!!!1!11

[Chaos Theory]

TELEINCISION!!!1!11
GASP! He has cracked the code!

[Isac Khrondor]

TELEINCISION!!!1!11

lolz

Nice one man.

[hi8is]

e - 13
a - 11
d - 5
g - 5
b - 5
high e - 12

if anyone has a capo and a guitar... it might very well be a chord.

[bluefire]

The first number is wrong.

2, 23, 235, 2357, 235711

where's the 9? and why is there a 2?

2-3-5-7-11

I don't see the 13 being correct.

prime numbers

3*3 = 9, so its not prime
2 is a prime number, its only factors are 1 and itself (2)

the next prime number after 11 is 13, hes right.

[Perseensilmä]

Does anyone have any kind of idea what those text captions mean, except that Sgt. Pepper-reference?

[Self_Destructive]

Well, about the Mayan calendar, there are 4 stairways, he gave us 4 sequences...
I'm writting down the four sequences like:
2
23
235

and so on... Probably I'll come up with nothing, but I'm looking at numbers, trying to combine them...

[awaking]

someone message this guy for his take on it.. haha http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=2002996&Mytoken=91D6FD42-785A-F6E6-3D9D10433E20C90486428427

[Self_Destructive]

Sometimes, writing things in a different way makes you perceive different things...
Instead of writting the sequences in line, I'm writting them on a stairway way... hoping to perceive something else...
I can't really understand what's so funny about trying to do things differently...
If only sometimes people could shut the fuck up and be less critical...

[clone]

Does anyone have any kind of idea what those text captions mean, except that Sgt. Pepper-reference?

post #46

[SaTaNs_LiTtLe_HeLpEr]

I know... Adam is the second most nonthreatening rock musician alive...

The first being Corgan.
I heard Corgan was a bully in his teens. And now he pleads and apologizes in newspapers. Awwww.... he's improved his behaviour.

[Perseensilmä]

Hey you guys who solved those number thingies! Are those dates right? I mean, can you actually get them out of those numbers?

My take on this riddle:

I don't know anything about those numbers.


The first part (Mayans) tells us how to solve the release date.

Second part (mysticism) tells us that this album is kept under tight wraps and will be announced suddenly and out of nowhere and before that there won't be any real news hinting at it's release date.

The third part tells us that it will be a classic, just like Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.

Now if I had just those numbers decoded.